Comparing the Wagner Flexio 3500 to the Graco Airless Handheld Paintsprayer | Pros & Cons

[@periux100]

I honestly prefer my Wagner flexio 3500 ,it’s easy to clean,easy to use,very inexpensive and gives a beautiful finish if you thin it correctly .Thank you.

[@TheMissFlips]

Yeah, the graco is a lot more complicated, though it definitely has its benefits

[@Guanacoboi]

Can you spray lacquer paint with the Wagner? I know graco you can’t

[@joellucas4624]

That's the problem, you said it!! End up thining it to much with water, , paint will be to light

[@robk1310]

You probably know this, but for your viewers, I have a similar Wagner sprayer. All the O rings need to be lubed well, using the Wagner O ring lube. This dramatically affects the unit’s performance. However, I really want the Graco sprayer, been researching them for several years now. I like circles. Better. The fact that they use DeWalt batteries is a huge plus for me, as I am already standardized on DeWalt cordless 20v max power tools. Cabinet makers swear by the Graco cordless sprayer.

[@TheMissFlips]

Oh really?? I actually didn’t have any idea! That’s really good to know!

[@TheMissFlips]

@threelittlepinecones Dang! I'm so sorry that that's happening! Did you follow all of the preuse cleaning and setup instructions?

[@dinokarakostas6407]

I have that graco sprayer and I love it. You don't need to thin out the paint and I painted my whole garage and interior doors. But it is heavy and expensive

[@TheMissFlips]

Is so nice!

[@user-ny2bx8ez1c]

Graco is a known painting industry standard. So when I saw the title I knew what the outcome would be. As far as clean up, any one who paints knows that in order for your tools to work properly, you have to do an immediate & thorough clean up. Like Right Now !

[@TheMissFlips]

Yup! Which I did, however, the cleanup is much more extensive than for the Wagner. Immediate or not

[@danbarrett6113]

finally someone does a accurate review. thanks

[@TheMissFlips]

Haha thank you!

[@BeardedGolf22]

That price difference is insane. Definitely sticking with Wagner

[@TheMissFlips]

I feel ya

[@danny12344]

No mate crago better

[@Scot.Hathaway]

Well part of the price difference is the Dewalt batteries and charger. That's $150 right there...

[@popeyesailorman911]

LOVE my Graco Cordless Connect Worth the $210 i paid at Home Depot Lowes carry it too

[@TheMissFlips]

Ooooh nice! I didn’t know it was that affordable

[@popeyesailorman911]

@@TheMissFlips It’s Cordless Connect, you’ve to provide ur own Drill or Impact Driver. FYI: The Faster the Drill the Better the Finish, also less overspray which leads to less cleanup n wastes less paint. ✌️✌️

[@daisukichococat04]

I'm obsessed with my Graco paint sprayer! The clean up process each time is no joke though 😅

[@TheMissFlips]

Lol I know!! Same!

[@michaelbradford4444]

At a 500 $ difference in price of course the Graco is gonna be better and to compare the two is unfair to a company who's been in the paint business as long as I can remember. I'll bet that if you compared Wagner's version of cordless in the same price range the outcome would differ in their favor. I enjoyed the video but I wanted to make a valid point viewers should know before making any conclusions. I'm ecstatic that so many companies are taking an interest in your channel Miss Flips !

[@TheMissFlips]

Thanks Michael! I actually just looked it up and can’t seem to find any Wagner paint sprayers in that price range or hand held, or cordless! I definitely agree that the two can’t be compared as far as quality, and the price does definitely reflect that, however, I think I made that clear when I said that I think the Wagner is great for beginners and the graco is more advanced. Both have their place in the industry and I think that was more so what my video was about

[@lynnestockwell1241]

I have a Homeright paint sprayer and wondered if the Wagner might be better. Nope. Happy with my Homeright and at $100 no need to get a heavier, nosier Graco considering I can only spray during the warmer months in Northern Michigan 😆. Thanks for the demo.

[@TheMissFlips]

Fair enough!

[@ChabelaFlips]

When you’re cleaning the Graco after washing the little maleable paint carrier install on the gun shake and throw that water away and refill and then start spraying out the spray with the spray facing upside down (you don’t have to squeeze it (don’t remember if you did but I love this gun!)

[@TheMissFlips]

Squeeze what?

[@jaimev6156]

You can buy 3 or 4 Wagners for the price of one Graco. Wagner at the right setting, right speed and thinning thicker paints should be close to the same.

[@TheMissFlips]

Lol yes you can! Which is why I’m simply giving my honest opinion

[@richardmahoney4531]

a graco replacement pump is almost the cost of the flexio lol ..

[@S_Bellew]

This is more of a Graco promotion than an unbiased comparison. Everything and everywhere tells you to paint with an overlap, but what you demonstrate as a result delivered by Wagner at 3:57 is just 3 thick stripes running across the surface. The real difference between the 2 sprayers is that Wagner allows you to apply a thinner coat. You could spray one or 2 more coats with Wagner and you would achieve better results. I much prefer spending more time applying 4 thin coats to just applying 2 thick ones which will leave streaks as the Graco did at 4:30. Especially when you paint vertical surfaces. Also, you mentioned that the Wagner left streaks, but I couldn't find any in your video. The Graco obviously did. I bet that with Graco you also get more paint accumulation in trim corners and any sort of fine detail.

[@TheMissFlips]

Maybe you misunderstood which one I was referring to as the graco one because the graco left no streaks at all. As I said in the video, I believe there is a time and place for both sprayers

[@danblake3265]

The reason you got uneven coverage is that you are not overlapping your spray patterns evenly. Each pass should overlap the same amount approximately 50% 40 year auto paunter

[@TheMissFlips]

Thanks for the tip!

[@Re-Facted]

I hope this message finds you well. I wanted to address some concerns regarding the spray technique used in your recent demonstrations. While your efforts are appreciated, there are some improvements that could be made to ensure better results. Firstly, it appears that the paint being used is too thick, causing eggshelling on both machines. I recommend thinning down the paint according to the instructions provided with the kit, using a velocity cup to ensure proper consistency. If the paint is not running correctly, it may need to be thinned further. Additionally, it's important to note that HVLP is generally used for furniture while Airless is better suited for walls and ceilings. The kits you are using are starter kits, and there are many brands available. I would recommend considering Graco HVLP kits, Apollo, or Fujitsu for furniture, and the Graco Airless for walls and ceilings. Lastly, please ensure that the paint being used is suitable for spraying. Not all paints are sprayable, and it's important to check the instructions to avoid any issues. I hope you find this feedback helpful, and please don't hesitate to reach out if you have any further questions. Please think before you advise as you are still very amature in this field, Also please check with an antiques professional before you refinish thrift bought furniture, As you could unknowingly destroy a masterpiece,

[@TheMissFlips]

Thank you so much for the feedback! I really do appreciate it. I am 100% an amateur and was only really giving my amateur opinion on the topic. And I do check every piece a makeover before painting it and only add to it if I think I am adding value and never (or if a client requests it) painting anything if it devalues it

[@Re-Facted]

Hi @MissFlips, I'm glad to see your passion for creating content on KZbin! While I haven't had a chance to watch all your videos, I'd love to offer some advice on a modern re-spray technique for thrift furniture. To start, I suggest investing in a good HVLP kit like the Apollo 1500 (My Fav)Graco, Fujitsu equivalent depending on where you live. This will come with a gun and a turbine. Next, find a good car paint supplier and a piece of furniture to practice on. Here are the steps to follow: 1.Give the furniture a deep clean. Sand the surface lightly with 240-320 grit sandpaper for a factory smooth finish. 2. Use grey primer when buying car paint to achieve deep, colorful selections. 3. Apply the first coat of primer, which should be a dashing of primer. You'll likely need 2-3 coats to start, but as you become more familiar with the material, you'll get better. 3. Sand down the primer with 800 grit or higher depending on the finish you want. The goal is to etch the surface to help with paint adhesion and smooth out blemishes. Blow off the dust from the panels with the turbine. 4. Put a small amount of thinners on a rag and use it to wipe down the surface. 5. Use tack cloth to remove any remaining imperfections. 6. Clean the gun. 7. Add the paint to the cup using filters. Automotive paint shouldn't need to be thinned as it will have a ratio already. The car paint supplier will tell you the ratio, usually around 3:1. Then, mask off the area and do a light first coat. You're not looking to finish, just a nice soft sprinkling. Wait for about half an hour since automotive paint dries quickly. 8.Then sand down with 2000-3000 grit, wipe with a thinner cloth, and tack off again. Apply a second coat, and keep repeating until you achieve a beautiful wet look finish. I hope this technique is helpful! If you have any further questions, feel free to reach out to me. I'd be happy to chat and offer any additional assistances Regards Ro

[@hippa2dahoppa2]

i had the same problem with my wagner i just got. i really have to turn the setting up high, which makes it splotchy. if your working outside and want to spray something at ground level so you dont get your brushes filled with dirt, the air the gun pushes out will kick the dirt up onto your project. but if you dont have enough power it simply wont cover what your doing. i did my entire old fence which is small spaced boards old style and i used it on that because its 40 yrs old and on its last breath and wanted to get it done before winter. i used it as a exterior paint and there is parts i just couldnt cover so i ended up using a roller on the entire thing anyways after to touch it up. i think its better for a primer where you dont need to be clean or worry about every spot covered. it also blows through the paint fast sometimes. but like she said in the video i had problems with it spraying at first and going through tons of paint, then it started spraying better and using less paint. it really made no sense honestly. i would prob never use a paint sprayer on something i really want to look good. only on something old thats a project for fun or something not important thats already falling apart. otherwise ill just use a paint brush for most things. even rollers sometimes leave a lumpy look and soak up the paint so i have to determine between roller and brush. if the surface is completely flat then ill do roller. oh also the overspray of the wagner is ridiculous. it blew prob 10 feet behind the fence i was spraying. i noticed halfway through and had to tarp every section so my rocks would stop being hit by paint. im amazed how much it covers far away that you arent spraying at vs what your actually spraying. oh also it is heavy as hell to, your arm will be sore unless your a brute mutant

[@TheMissFlips]

Hahaha yeah, it definitely weighs a TON

[@davidscbirdsall]

The Graco TrueCoat airless system sprays a lot more paint each pass than the Wagner Flexio system which atomizes the paint and uses a jacket of air to force the paint to go where it is aimed. Because of the thinner spray, you must move slower with the Wagner Flexio than with the Graco TrueCoat especially if you’re trying to hide the wood grain. I prefer the Wagner Flexio because the paint is applied thinner and more efficiently, allowing me the ability to stretch my paint further over more square footage than with the Graco. The cleanup is also much simpler with the Wagner Flexio 3500. A through cleaning breaks the sprayer into 7 parts (9 parts with the air cleaner) which are easy to disassemble, clean, and reassemble. If you’re just stopping for a few hours and continuing painting later, you can do a field expedient cleanup: remove the paint cup, clean it, fill it with water, screw the paint cup of water back on, and shoot the water through the sprayer as if you’re painting (use mineral spirits of cleaning up after using oil-based coatings). Let the sprayer dry while you’re away, and it will be ready for you when you come back. Anytime you have skipping with either sprayer, the paint pickup is sucking in air instead of paint. Readjust your sprayer or your position to slow paint to be picked up instead of air and continue.

[@TheMissFlips]

After using it for a while, I gotta say I agree with you!

[@subsyt]

This right here is the review we should’ve gotten! Not a comparison with something that’s not even in the same class and $400 price difference. THANK YOU.

[@brennanfrazier7834]

Definitely not familiar with the Wagner sprayer huh? Did you use the detail nozzle or the project nozzle? The detail nozzle is for fine finish. Also you can adjust your spray pattern on the Wagner from vertical to horizontal or circle. A small cap full of floetrol in the cup will also make a massive difference in your finish.

[@TheMissFlips]

Yup! I’m very familiar with it :) just doing the comparison so people can decide for themselves

[@brennanfrazier7834]

​@@TheMissFlips if you really are familiar with the Wagner then you purposely did poorly with it. Not saying the Graco is bad but your definitely biased

[@dahuman]

The skip you are talking about is from air pockets, it needs to be primed at an angle when you set it up to reduce the amount of air at the top then you won't see skips.

[@TheMissFlips]

Thank you for the tip!!

[@HandyRandy3200]

I knew at the very beginning that this would be a biased video for the new sprayer. I've been using the Wagner for years and I can promise you that any time you are having issues with the way the Wagner is spraying is because of user error. Either you didn't clean it well enough or you didn't thin the paint properly, or you have trash in your paint. When you called the graco amazing before you ever opened the box, I knew where this was going

[@TheMissFlips]

I did the review so people can decide for themselves whether it’s worth the investment

[@judichristopher4604]

This is NOT Fair... This is Apples and Oranges... Graco is more of the Professional side... Wagner is great... just depending on which one you get.

[@TheMissFlips]

I wasn’t paid to do this video. I just thought I’d do a comparison so people can make up their minds for themselves. I showed every part of my process and didn’t lie or anything. It’s more so for people debating whether or not to spend that money. It’s worth it, but for people just starting out, or who can’t afford it yet, the Wagner will do just fine

[@mcm.walnuter3479]

I don't spray because the brush relaxes me. Anyway, I hate brushing top coats. This would be a great alternative 😊. Thanks for doing this!

[@TheMissFlips]

For sure! Yeah, I’m not a huge fan of brushing top coats either. Plus, sprayers are good for when you have deadlines

[@happycamper305]

Massive difference in price between the 2. For the money, I would hope the Graco would be better.

[@TheMissFlips]

Exactly :) now it’s up to you to decide whether it’s worth it or not

[@BrokeTheGamer]

Airless vs HVLP. Both should be used for their own specific purposes, but excellent review nonetheless.

[@TheMissFlips]

Thank you!!

[@victorramos3919]

How is this an apples to apples comparison? The Wagner is $180 & the Graco is close to $600.

[@TheMissFlips]

Right :) so I’m helping people determine whether it’s worth spending the money

[@victorramos3919]

@@TheMissFlips How so? Maybe if you'd compared Wagner's battery operated unit with this Graco that would help, but comparing 2 very different priced units & one being battery powered doesn't help in the slightest. That's like comparing a Toyota Prius with a Dodge Durango. I liked your presentation & I can see that the Graco paints better but most likely so would any paint sprayer that's 3 times more expensive than the $180 Wagner.

[@TheMissFlips]

@@victorramos3919 right! I have a ton of people asking if it’s worth getting the graco. So I send them to this video where they can see both in use and choose for themselves!

[@peterbradney9159]

What's the cost of the greyco, shouldn't uou put it up against the more powerful version

[@TheMissFlips]

I was merely comparing a high priced paint sprayer vs a lower grade sprayer and seeing if the graco was worth the price

[@peterbradney9159]

The w690 is still relitivily inexpensive, but has much better flow which is what seemed to let the cheaper unit down

[@DJGonzoNYC]

The grace blows the Wagner away, I went through 3 flexios in the past year, thinning the paint and worrying about spray angle was annoying. The grace was quick to figure out and works flawlessly.

[@TheMissFlips]

Agreed

[@judichristopher4604]

Grace? Graco? ... Graco

[@scraigrogers]

Phenomenal review/content...

[@TheMissFlips]

Thank you!!

[@holgerwinkelmann6219]

Would be a better review, not between a Wagner XVLP 4000 (18V) or at least any XVLP. Wagner which is also in the Price Range of a Graco.

[@TheMissFlips]

I did the review so people could decide whether it’s in their budget and worth buying for them

[@rickyhall4805]

Personally like the titan hand-held myself

[@TheMissFlips]

Oh yeah? Never tried that one

[@worldwide1376]

Seems like a lot of orange-peeling from the Graco. What tip size did you use and at what speed? Did you thin the paint?

[@TheMissFlips]

The graco specifically says in the instructions not to thin the paint. There was absolutely no texture from the graco. Not sure about the tip size and speed since this video was awhile ago

[@worldwide1376]

@@TheMissFlips You can clearly see the orange peel effect at the 2:02 mark.

[@patrickcowan8701]

​@@TheMissFlips Use flo-trol flood in your paint. I use it in my Graco acts as a lubricant and gives the paint better flow.

[@TheMissFlips]

@@patrickcowan8701 oooh good to know! Thanks!

[@CesarGarcia-nl3lj]

I have both sprayers, i prefer Graco. Cabinets better finish and faster than the wagner...

[@TheMissFlips]

Yeah, I agree

[@mchume65]

Seems to me that you'll need two batteries for the Graco if you're doing a big project. Otherwise, you'll be taking a long brake between charges.

[@TheMissFlips]

Definitely a good investment. It works with dewalt batteries though so if you already have one, no need

[@j0rzeh]

You needed to turn the power up to stop the spitting btw, Run it around 7 to 10 for thick paints.

[@TheMissFlips]

I did

[@j0rzeh]

@@TheMissFlips try a fflp 308 it’s really good for what you’re doing, It looks like you’re having a lot of fun with it :-) great videos, thank you.

[@TheMissFlips]

@@j0rzeh thanks!

[@davidbgreensmith]

I am new to paint spraying and looking for my first paint sprayer. It seems to me that given the Wagner 3500 is under $200 and the Graco is $650 that the difference in performance is only to be expected.

[@TheMissFlips]

Yes! Definitely. Which is why I say if you’re just starting out, the Wagner will do just fine! :)

[@davidbgreensmith]

I am trying to work out which paint sprayer to get. It's a minefield:-) I've looked at Wagner, Bosch, Nocry and Erbauer. I just want something that will give a reasonable on walls, ceilings and the woodwork. Videos like yours are a great help.

[@chrisg220]

Super helpful review!

[@TheMissFlips]

Good! 🥰

[@LuisUgarteUSA]

You must reduce the paint it is clear to see in the Wagner spray

[@TheMissFlips]

I do it for the Wagner. It says not to for the graco

[@MyZxcvb12]

It looks to me you didn't over lay the paint with the wagner.

[@TheMissFlips]

I always overlay. Don’t know why I wouldn’t

[@FolkinghamRob]

The Graco is 3 times the price, so I would stick to the Wagner and I’ve seen enough reviews to say the Wagner is a good sprayer

[@TheMissFlips]

For sure! That’s why I did the review :) so people can decide whether or not it’s worth it for them to purchase now

[@X3WorkshopDesigns]

Thank you for sharing this! I definitely was curious about the wagner.

[@TheMissFlips]

Any time!

[@melanieeaton3344]

Thank you for the comparison!

[@TheMissFlips]

Sure thing!

[@OwlingDogDesign]

Thanks for the comparison! Good information. Does the Graco sprayer come from Harbor Freight?

[@TheMissFlips]

I don’t believe so. Graco is it’s own brand

[@OwlingDogDesign]

@@TheMissFlips Okay, Marissa - thank you! I am guessing from another of your commenters that this brand is expensive. But, often times we get what we pay for! Not that Wagner is a bad brand at all! I don't have a spray painter at all, but I sure wish I did. I would use it for finishes!! It is such a great option. Thanks again for doing the comps.

[@TheMissFlips]

@@OwlingDogDesign of course! Thanks for watching!

[@charhead4738]

Good honest review Thank you

[@TheMissFlips]

Thank you!

[@marcinm9102]

Are you kidding me ? Those are two completely different types of.sprayer ! This wagner is comple garbage! She's not.honest! Wagner have.not enough power even on 10 setting, that's why splatter , She's adding water to paint so the wagner can spray anything! I went to the nightmare wagner! It's good only for watery stain outside on fence! Graco cordet I have runs forever. She didn't even read instructions for graco

[@kissn8888]

What nozzle did you use for the graco? The surface is very orange. Maybe you didn't put in the ideal one?

[@TheMissFlips]

Which surface is orange? The green one? I used the one that it came with

[@kissn8888]

@@TheMissFlips Here in Hungary, we call it orange when the paint has an ugly grooved surface. Like cellulite skin.

[@kissn8888]

@@TheMissFlips You must have used the wrong nozzle. Gray is not for this, fflp is good here. The nozzle number is the other value, which is very important. This can be used for walls.

[@TheMissFlips]

@@kissn8888 interesting. I actually like seeing the wood grain underneath. It lets me see wood grain without having to be bare wood. I don’t see that as ugly at all. Just like cellulite

[@LuisUgarteUSA]

Price and results; Wagner is a very good spray gun

[@TheMissFlips]

100% agree!

[@groot5441]

Paint thickness in machine makes the difference

[@TheMissFlips]

I always water it down for the Wagner

[@MrsJax304]

Did the Graco use more paint overall?

[@TheMissFlips]

Nope! Less actually! And It was easier to get all the paint out of the container because it’s so malleable

[@joea361]

I got the Graco, easiest spray gun i ever used, Pour the paint, prime, and paint lol it just Does not get any easier. I like the corded one, i cant stand the battery one.

[@TheMissFlips]

Haha fair enough!

[@jason-hh6lu]

I bought a Graco this week. I sent it back straight away purely because the build quality was terrible. None of the joins in the plastic were touching. It looked like it was just thrown together. Really disappointed and I didn’t even use it

[@TheMissFlips]

Dang! I had the opposite experience

[@fentitol-ef5zi]

paint zoom for $30 is the best.

[@TheMissFlips]

Oooh what is that?

[@fentitol-ef5zi]

@@TheMissFlips kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4jVhX2gltmbo9Usi=1fHZfK1h8BZ83754

[@MassiBrunner77]

I don't think you primed the gun... that's why it spattered. Gotta squeeze the air out nexttimes

[@TheMissFlips]

Fair enough! Thanks for the tip!

[@atech3117]

this is a unfair / inaccurate test. You ARE using a "Used electric sprayer" vs a "new battery sprayer".

[@TheMissFlips]

Super true!

[@atech3117]

Thank you for being so positive and taking critic very well.

[@TheMissFlips]

@@atech3117 I do my best. Though, it is challenging sometimes if people are intentionally being rude or mean. But you were not. So thank you

[@luismorales7761]

Even if the graco was used it would still work a lot better Wagner sprayers are shitty painting guns

[@devon3ddd]

To be fair, I think this was great and practical. Most diyers or homeowners have a $50 Wagner or similar product even if it’s plugged into the wall. The t pro cost $700 so I think this is great for giving people the info they need to make the decision, if the want to UPGRADE. Thanks 🙏

[@basketballmaven1454]

you should get a small tip like maybe 310

[@TheMissFlips]

Thanks!

[@judichristopher4604]

This is a GRACO video for sure...

[@TheMissFlips]

Not paid at all :) just my personal and honest opinion

[@judichristopher4604]

@@TheMissFlips Yes Ma'am... then they need to Pay you for an advertisement... because this is a great video for Graco... (smile)

[@JuanGomez-pd6jn]

It’s normal that stay on?

[@TheMissFlips]

I don’t understand your question :/

[@colinbidwell1540]

Very different units wagner hvlp, Graco airless. More paint via Airless less via hvlp

[@TheMissFlips]

For sure

[@kkp4297]

HVLP vs airless. 2 different types for different situations.

[@TheMissFlips]

Agreed!

[@juego414]

Graco is a headache with that paint container, plus the paint is not well distributed on the surfaces.

[@TheMissFlips]

Disagree, but to each their own

[@subsyt]

Great video but honestly this is like comparing a Toyota with a Rolls Royce. Price difference is over $400 😳

[@TheMissFlips]

Haha super true! However, I think that’s the point. I’m helping people decide for themselves if it’s worth it to them

[@gdblackthorn4137]

I would never use an airless paint sprayer on cabinets or furniture and expect a nice levelled out coat. There is no air to break up the paint into small enough particles to get a really smooth coat as do HVLP sprayers (the Wagner for example: high volume low pressure). I could be wrong about it but I would use an airless paint sprayer on walls or a fence and leave the smooth work to finer painting machines. Sure everyone likes cordless tools but I really don't enjoy paying all that extra money for something that would be used (in most cases) where receptacles are nearby. I use cordless drills all the time and love them but I really prefer most tools to be corded in most cases. Then there is the ugly thing about mining the materials for all of the batteries; child slavery used in their mining, and all of the actual real pollution caused by their manufacturing. No, I am not an environmental fanatic but it is good at times to mention real pollution (and not the phony C02 fantasy global warming garbage (C02 is NOT a pollutant and neither is tungsten), cow farts are really not an issue and there are now more polar bears than there were in the 1950's)! I just had to get that out of my system! This is the first of your videos I have watched and I am really not criticizing your video! They take a lot of work but I just felt like doing a mini-rant here. Graco makes awesome products which I have used many times myself but these tools are really for different applications. Sure, I know people who use airless paint sprayers on vehicles and cabinets but I wouldn't recommend it. Thanks for you video and I will check out some of your others! Ok, I give up I just subscribed!

[@TheMissFlips]

Haha thanks for all the info! I appreciate your input and the subscription

[@hswing11]

WAGNER ONLY IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD A BETTER SPRAYER

[@TheMissFlips]

Yes! Wagner is a great sprayer and gets the job done. But there are so many others out there that do better jobs

[@paulorenatosimoesduarte1245]

the Wagner painting system requires the paint to be more diluted than in the airless system.

[@TheMissFlips]

Yup! That’s why I dilute it :)

[@kingmiller1982]

So the Graco gives you ear fatigue, but the shop vac sounding Wagner doesn't? 😂

[@TheMissFlips]

lol surprisingly not as much

[@seancrowe3353]

Omg the Graco is a thousand bucks in the UK

[@TheMissFlips]

Wooooow! That’s crazy!

[@josephnasca8177]

Comparing a $700 sprayer to $200 sprayer

[@TheMissFlips]

Yessir! So people can make a fair estimation on whether or not it’s worth it for them :)

[@mandygoodworth9609]

What size tip did you use in the Graco? I had the same issue with pooling and drips with the Graco so I just quit using it. Lol

[@TheMissFlips]

I use the tip that it came with. Honestly, after that first time, I didn’t have any issues! It says in the manual that if it pools, you’re not moving fast enough or you’re too close to the piece. Or a combination of both

[@ChabelaFlips]

@@TheMissFlipshave you tried using the staining tip/mesh? And just super thinning the paint?

[@TheMissFlips]

@@ChabelaFlips this particular sprayer says specifically not to thin the paint

[@dgod5psp]

It should be better, it costs almost three times more than the Wagner.

[@TheMissFlips]

Definitely! Do you think it’s worth the investment?

[@dgod5psp]

@@TheMissFlips that depends on how often you're going to use it. For me, that would be a no. lol

[@WESKIX]

“Ear fatigue” from an airless sprayer, Ha. Man I’m getting old.

[@TheMissFlips]

Lol

[@traceyrice9359]

Andersonville, Tennessee here! Thanks for this!

[@TheMissFlips]

Hey! Thanks for watching!

[@jonathanmcadams-nx5zp]

Price difference please. And please use both when used and cleaned the same way. By you, which I am sure would be a lovely cleaning. I would clean out that Wagner gun because you have not cleaned it properly. Also thin your paint out in both as a good paint will cover nicely even when thinned down a bit. This was like comparing a used 2013 Chevy Impala with 95k miles on it and comparing it to a 2023 Camry Hybrid. You really think the Graco is a better gun? It is like Five times the price by the time you have invested in batteries and accessories and extra cups and tips. Hmmmmmm Next you can do two day old leftovers in a togo box from McDonalds and compare it to a freshly served 4 star Michelin restaurant and tell us more of the obvious. Thank you for the news flash there Katie Couric. Any more wisdom you have for us there Einstein? And next week we compare sleeping at the Ritz Carlton in New Yorks Manhattan with throwing down a sleeping bag in the back alley of that same hotel and cuddling up with Stinky the 73 year old homeless man with paranoid schizophrenia, one leg, and he hasn't showered this year. I WONDER WHICH ONE WILL BE BETTER. HMMMMMMMM, BEATS ME. WE WILL HAVE TO TRY IT TO FIND OUT.

[@TheMissFlips]

It was to help people decide whether it’s worth the money for them.

[@jsaae]

These two machines are very sensitive to paint thickness. I can see from the video that your paint is way too thick nobody wants to paint and leave splatters that size on the edge. No mention of how vast the price difference is on these two machines not worth it for the Graco.

[@TheMissFlips]

I water down my paint for the Wagner every time I use it. The graco instructions specifically direct you not to

[@clark3830]

You needed to thin your paint a little to get better flow.

[@TheMissFlips]

Thanks for the tip! For the graco sprayer, it says specifically not to

[@Tradeofjane]

I would never feel comfortable using a cordless paint sprayer.

[@TheMissFlips]

Why’s that?

[@Tradeofjane]

@@TheMissFlips Given my luck the battery would die half way through.

[@monkeyface6139]

You're not gonna get a great finish with two coats. You need a primer on the bare wood /fill the dents /touch up / then apply two coats.The primer lets the wood soak up paint so the finish just sits on top.

[@TheMissFlips]

Thanks for the tips, however, I use paint and primer all in one. I took care of the dents before hand and personally like the wood grain showing through the paint. I also got wonderful coverage :)

[@monkeyface6139]

@TheMissFlips I've been a decorator for 46 years. You can't prime and paint at the same time that doesn't make any sense. Priming is a separate process you do before painting. It needs to be dry before you paint. It has a purpose. How can you do them together ?!?!

[@TheMissFlips]

@@monkeyface6139 there’s all in one paints made specifically for furniture that have worked very well for me :)

[@monkeyface6139]

@@TheMissFlips Yeah ok then I can see that all the knowledge I've accrued from top quality tradesmen in nearly 50 years in the trade doesn't hold up to your D.I.Y skills.

[@TheMissFlips]

@@monkeyface6139not what I said in the least. I’m sure there are so many things I could learn from you. And I definitely use primer depending on the type of paint that I’m using. But this process works for me, saves me money, allows me to use more eco friendly and small batch products, and gets great results with long lasting quality and color. Feel free to continue leaving tips if you see me doing something I can improve on

[@user-rd1st9io8m]

Nice comparison but flawed due to your inexperience.

[@TheMissFlips]

Fair enough!

[@kazeemkhan8250]

I got a wagner ,I got to say wagner are shite not fast enough as graco ,the graco has more pressure than wagner ,I won't buy a wagner again crap

[@TheMissFlips]

Yeah, I use both but graco is definitely higher quality and the price reflects that

[@basketballmaven1454]

should of got an graco magnum x5, it's cheaper and better

[@TheMissFlips]

I was sent the graco by the company so I didn’t choose, but good to know!!

[@sr3585]

This test, just say nothing :( the price range is to big, graco is a prosprayer and this wagner flexio for diy.

[@TheMissFlips]

Thanks for the comment! :)

[@user-rh6uo1wv5o]

ULTRAMAX price

[@TheMissFlips]

Facts

[@coredozer1996]

This sounds staged.

[@TheMissFlips]

Lol what do you mean staged?

[@alainguillouetdeporcaro2899]

Sorry but both machines were not apppriately set up …..

[@TheMissFlips]

How so?

[@alainguillouetdeporcaro2899]

@@TheMissFlips not enough paint means not enough speed

[@TheMissFlips]

@@alainguillouetdeporcaro2899 pretty sure I put a good amount of paint in both

[@user-te4qr2eo7m]

Neither of these are sprayers they are splatter painters neither is worth the price! 40 year experienced painter!

[@TheMissFlips]

Maybe that’ll be my next video :)

[@Cesk3boy]

Used gun vs new gun 😂

[@TheMissFlips]

lol facts

[@spiritGen-Z]

Does these mfs work with oil paint sweetie ?

[@TheMissFlips]

They say it does, but then you’d have to clean it which is tricky

[@spiritGen-Z]

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[@johnlynch4990]

Wagners are terrible paint sprayers i preferred the graco

[@TheMissFlips]

I actually like both, but the Wagner is undeniable

[@johnyork5138]

I had nothing but TROUBLE with the Graco. Heavy and cumbersome, awful to clean, for $800 , I ended up throwing it in the trash, junk. WAGNER.

[@TheMissFlips]

Dang! That’s a shame

[@manuelarroyo2282]

This is obviously a poor review. I’ve used Wagners before and never had such poor results as you did. You obviously didn’t use it correctly, by using the actual piece as spray test instead of getting a cardboard box to test spray pattern then spray your actual piece! Do you always get such poor results with Wagner? If so, you’re doing something definitely wrong “Miss Flip”. I suggest you get some help.

[@TheMissFlips]

Thanks for the advice!

[@WilliamFiler]

I should give you some pro tips.

[@TheMissFlips]

Please do!!

[@mmmvvkk]

You should not be flushing paint into the sewers, thats bad for the planet girl..

[@TheMissFlips]

How else should I do it?? I’ve always wanted to know, but I can’t seem to find a way that doesn’t include someone else throwing it into the trash. I also use non toxic mineral and chalk paint

[@nodeal7337]

You have the Graco sprayer on too low pressure, you can hear and see the pump going too slow and the Tip is too large for the material, the overspray droplets should not be that big. The Wagner sprayer is limited in use and paint with low viscosity will run and sag severely while the Graco can use all types with variable Tips and pressure to match. Set wrong in this test. PS.. Use only FFLP Spray Tip's and you'll get the best results. 208 - 308 - 310 -408 - 410. The First number is the Spray Width in inches. The last two digits are the size of the orifice in the Tip. 208 - 308 etc are good for low viscosity paints like lacquer etc. The Width of 208 - 308 makes it good for baseboards etc. 410 is perfect for cabinets and doors etc and regular top coats. If the spray pattern is uneven, big droplets etc. Raise pressure. Still not good? Use a Tip with smaller Orifice. The Gray Tip in the Video is for Thick paints, Hige viscosity. Buy Green Tips Only.

[@TheMissFlips]

Thank you for the info!!

[@christopherbecker8703]

Wagner paint sprayers are crap. Get a Graco if you actually want to paint instead of making a mess of your walls with the Wagner, which you will later have to sand off if you want a decent finish. The Wagner is weak and sprays like crap.

[@TheMissFlips]

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[@parkerkazen8021]

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[@TheMissFlips]

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