[Comparison] Full Length vs Half Length Nerf Darts in Flywheel Blasters

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Bradley Phillips

Bradley Phillips

Күн бұрын

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@HeathHeil
@HeathHeil 5 жыл бұрын
Nice testing. Methodical and transparent. This is what I've observed too, though not nearly so extensively tested or controlled
@Calthecool
@Calthecool 5 жыл бұрын
Should’ve talked for 3 more seconds to get that 10 min mark.
@emilysynk5019
@emilysynk5019 4 жыл бұрын
LoL
@StopMotion_Mania
@StopMotion_Mania 2 жыл бұрын
@@emilysynk5019lOl
@projectfdl6831
@projectfdl6831 5 жыл бұрын
Great tests! A small note, the half length blaster has slightly faster motors in it being a newer version of the blaster. That may or may not give it a slight velocity advantage but workers would still remain the accuracy champ. Very similar to my own, less scientific and more anecdotal findings.
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
Despite the motor difference possibly affecting velocity, I think some other useful information was gained in that case. For people who play to a velocity limit, say, 130fps or 150fps, something most flywheel blasters are capable of, a Worker dart tuned to the same velocity limit as an Accufake will go slightly further in range. This could be useful information to people attending End War or who play Superstock.
@projectfdl6831
@projectfdl6831 5 жыл бұрын
@@BradleyPhillipsYT that was actually one of the driving forces with making the blaster take workers after being rather opposed to it in the past. Ragnaroktoberfest had a 150 cap during the BTA tournament. Being on that field under those restrictions it all became clear.
@wasabithegosu
@wasabithegosu 5 жыл бұрын
I think I had mentioned half-length FDL would be a nice idea :-)
@spugbgobparewants
@spugbgobparewants 5 жыл бұрын
Half-length mags are easier and lighter to carry, plus they still perform well in close range, so that could be a benefit
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
Watch my latest video on the Adventure Force ones ;)
@DarkHeartInFlames
@DarkHeartInFlames 3 жыл бұрын
i find nerf guns nice as a toy... but calling plastic mags with plastic ammo, that are already no noticable weight, "easier and lighter to carry" seems like pure idiocy to me since weight wasnt a problem in the beginning, shits made out of plastic :'D
@guitarman416
@guitarman416 5 жыл бұрын
I love they way you test. It has helped me choose what to save up for and get
@OCDyno
@OCDyno 5 жыл бұрын
Yesssss!! I've been waiting for this for a Looong time
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
The wait is over!
@shiikon2193
@shiikon2193 5 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@blacdiamond2334
@blacdiamond2334 5 жыл бұрын
عبداللطيف ابو نيان there was wind
@taggedout5980
@taggedout5980 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting results I personally didn't expect the velocities to be so comparable!
@nerfthestrongest
@nerfthestrongest 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't know you got two FDL 3 until now lol. But really impressed to see the difference between full length and half length.
@narenthebeesechurgerman422
@narenthebeesechurgerman422 5 жыл бұрын
Very Useful info, now I can build a nerf Thompson that fires half darts at the same velocities as full lengths
@ericshelleman1497
@ericshelleman1497 5 жыл бұрын
Love this video and the scientific approach. Please keep going with these comparisons like you did in your older videos with springers. There's just not enough rigorous testing with flywheels blasters out there.
@BeybladeASMRreviews
@BeybladeASMRreviews 3 жыл бұрын
I do have a slight problem with the accuracy and range test, as you can see it’s windy in the video looking at the trees it’s also noticeable in the microphone those factors affect the range and accuracy. I know these factors can’t be controlled but an indoor test would be more consistent and reliable, otherwise great vid, very helpful😀
@scottbionicnerf8727
@scottbionicnerf8727 2 жыл бұрын
Great job on this real-world comparison. I still have more flywheel customers than springers.
@wasabithegosu
@wasabithegosu 5 жыл бұрын
The new FDLs seem to have more powerful motors. I noticed noticeable voltage sag using the same battery between the older FDL-3 (I was #26) and my new FDL short (#106). Also, do you like the auto tail more than the semi? My new one is short nose and semi tail
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
Yes I prefer the auto tail, never really liked rev triggers
@benedicthenriksson8160
@benedicthenriksson8160 5 жыл бұрын
All of your blasters are amazing! Great video man!
@DarkPrinceRaven99
@DarkPrinceRaven99 5 жыл бұрын
I've been looking forward to seeing a comparison like this, I'm now strongly considering investing in a half length compatible Eclipse Stryfe.
@tatsuhirosatou5513
@tatsuhirosatou5513 5 жыл бұрын
You probably don't even need eclipse a high crush ofp would probably do fine, but then again if you use dartzone waffle heads you can get full lengths as accurate as workers in my experience.
@DarkPrinceRaven99
@DarkPrinceRaven99 5 жыл бұрын
I'm sticking to ekind waffles, dart zone doesn't sell in Australia.
@saifullahfarooq2570
@saifullahfarooq2570 5 жыл бұрын
Tatsuhiro Satou Whoch are more accurate for you, waffle heads, z tips, or accufakes?
@tatsuhirosatou5513
@tatsuhirosatou5513 5 жыл бұрын
@@saifullahfarooq2570 dartzone waffle heads, they beat everything else in flywheels and air blaster, the heads are too wide for my brassed longshot but they are the only darts that can hold up to my 100yrd homemade air blaster and they hold a 6" group at 90feet in my stryfe with a 41.5mm of cage, containment crew cyclones running on fang revamps.
@MisterNathan
@MisterNathan 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a great, thorough video. Great work, as always.
@ericmcvey1805
@ericmcvey1805 5 жыл бұрын
Why did he do it on windy day doe still good vid love it keep it up👌
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
Do you ever play Nerf on a windy day?
@MinistryofFoam
@MinistryofFoam 5 жыл бұрын
Another great video, thanks Brad.
@gautamkolli4915
@gautamkolli4915 5 жыл бұрын
I would be interested in seeing accuracy at the expected engagement ranges for a flywheel, also the grouping at full auto
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
I shot some footage at 70ft, same results overall, just with more hits than at 100ft. I chose to use the 100ft footage in the end.
@gautamkolli4915
@gautamkolli4915 5 жыл бұрын
@@BradleyPhillipsYT really sounds like full length darts might be obsolete then, even for flywheels
@Boomtendo4tw
@Boomtendo4tw 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe try putting the Worker head on a full length foam
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
I tried that when I first got the full length dart FDL-3 and the full length Workers were worse than Accufakes. :(
@tatsuhirosatou5513
@tatsuhirosatou5513 5 жыл бұрын
From everything that's been done it's pretty much been desided you just won't beat dartzone waffle heads in a full length flywheel gun.
@another3997
@another3997 7 ай бұрын
With the full length accufakes, most of them were falling short of the target but seemed to be on the right line, suggesting that had you aimed a bit higher, more would have hit it. For me, the downside to half darts is that they're harder to find afterwards in the grass if they land nose down.
@MrFreefonix420
@MrFreefonix420 Жыл бұрын
Hey im getting a Diana very soon, and just wondered whats the best darts for them, i hear they have a high crush
@FelixstoweFoamForge
@FelixstoweFoamForge 3 жыл бұрын
Just a quick observation.. ..expecting a flywheel blaster to meet the accuracy of a springer is a bit like asking an mp40 to be as accurate as a k98k. 30 meters for a flywheel blaster is like 200m for a 9mm parabelum....basically out of effective range
@GeorgeCowsert
@GeorgeCowsert 3 жыл бұрын
I personally use full length darts in cqc while half lengths are for outside play. The simple fact that full length darts have more drag, drop faster, and have less kinetic energy means they're inherently safer to use indoors where the power behind some blasters are far more noticable. Plus, I already have a stockpile of crummy full length darts that are barely usable beyond 15 feet as is, so I might as well use them for casual "prank your friend" events.
@stevel1475
@stevel1475 3 жыл бұрын
How about full length Worker darts for accuracy test compared to full length Adventure Force?
@foamdagr6932
@foamdagr6932 5 жыл бұрын
Really interesting results. It would be interesting to see if the results change in excess of 200fps.
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
From what I've heard, Accufakes are at the edge of their stability limit in the FDL-3 at max power. Some people actually dial their FDL-3 down a bit to get better accuracy from Accufakes. Above 200fps I'd have to guess Worker would be the only viable option.
@bred007
@bred007 Жыл бұрын
do barrels work with flywheelers? and im trying to use an airsoft scope on my springer but i am having trouble with tuning it, do you think you could do a video on that? general scope and sight sighting in if that makes any sense
@seandoremmerson7367
@seandoremmerson7367 5 жыл бұрын
Hi can I have a link on were to get that scope. It is savage
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
It's a Redfield red dot sight that I got from a gun store. Not sure if you can buy online.
@Daniel_B79
@Daniel_B79 5 жыл бұрын
Why do they sound different?
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
In start-up chime or flywheels?
@tsmachine2
@tsmachine2 5 жыл бұрын
Both sound different because they use slightly different internals. Jessie from project FDL, explained in one of his videos, that in the newer versions of the FDL 3. He uses new speed controllers and motors due to availability. Having newer motors and speed controllers, also requires newer software. Thus producing the new startup tone, and revving noises. The old software is called SimonK. Which allowed for quick response, and also made the infamous startup noise. But due to the drone market leaving SimonK for BL_Heli, (new software which is popular for drones) Jessie had to adapt for the newer FDL 3’s. The original BL_Heli was not ideal for flywheels, as it had a delay startup. But BL_Heli_32 (new FDL software) fixes these issues. So Jessie swapped the FDL 3 to BL_Heli_32. Making the newer noises, and running slightly different.
@solarsynapse
@solarsynapse 3 жыл бұрын
Do the Worker darts have a slightly smaller diameter tip for less barrel drag? Are the tips heavier?
@adambarlev8992
@adambarlev8992 5 жыл бұрын
Have you done a video describing the optics setup you use to get scope footage? Its interesting seeing you swap it from blaster to blaster here.
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't really discussed it before but it's a Runcam 2 with a 16mm lens sold on some airsoft websites.
@adambarlev8992
@adambarlev8992 5 жыл бұрын
@@BradleyPhillipsYT The people want to know. If you did a whole video on your war footage process I think its would be pretty popular.
@scottjs5207
@scottjs5207 5 жыл бұрын
@@adambarlev8992 I use the same camera, synced with Audio from another, just no modification to the lens. Airsoft guys like to use the Runcam 2 for their gameplay videos. Might be able to find some ideas from their channels. A guy I watch a lot, BrainExploder did a whole bunch of videos on mounting and reviewing cameras and equipment he used.
@llsnyderj
@llsnyderj 3 жыл бұрын
I have a few short dart springers and a Woozi but looking to print an FDL-3. I am not sure if I should stick with the short version or go full length as the 40 round mag seems very intriguing. Majority of people I play with seem to use full length so it might help for recovering ammo during a game. Any thoughts would be much appreciated!
@stevel1475
@stevel1475 3 жыл бұрын
I believe full length is more popular, unless you go to a more serious and older crowd. Besides if you are out of ammo, most likely your teammates will have full length clips than short. Abundant full lengths all over the ground.
@jim2386
@jim2386 4 жыл бұрын
Nice work. Really would like to see this similar type review with the HIR nose. :)
@gabbiyobro4020
@gabbiyobro4020 5 жыл бұрын
Holy heaven! ACCs must be amazing in the half-lenght one!!
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
ACC's are nothing flash without a SCAR unfortunately, they fishtail quite a bit.
@TheAwesonymous
@TheAwesonymous 5 жыл бұрын
To remove another variable during accuracy testing, you could put the gun in a jig and remote fire it in a non windy environment. Removes the human variable too. Great testing though
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
Yes but doesn't give you real world conditions
@air_
@air_ 5 жыл бұрын
What if you’re indoors? I don’t think there’d be wind
@everythingnerf4334
@everythingnerf4334 4 жыл бұрын
2 Fdl-3s? 😮
@darthlegoman2608
@darthlegoman2608 3 жыл бұрын
There was quite some wind. So keep that in mind for the darts that heat straying in random places.
@ToddLeeTV
@ToddLeeTV 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Brad. Did you notice the new Worker red full length darts? When can you test them?
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
I don't have anything that fires full length darts, so I can't really test them
@totophi
@totophi 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent testing with single rounds. Is there any point in testing under more combat-like conditions, e.g. burst and full-auto?
@herskerhans
@herskerhans 5 жыл бұрын
Would you get the same result in a modified stryfe? With curved plastic worker wheels and a brushed setup for instance.
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
From what I've seen from 41.5mm cages there's a slight velocity drop from using half lengths, but range and accuracy benefits of Workers should still be there.
@herskerhans
@herskerhans 5 жыл бұрын
@@BradleyPhillipsYT thanks, thats a high crush, does an fdl crush about the same as a 41.5 cage? i have only ordered 43 and 42.5 cages, i should have ordered 41.5 is what youre saying on a fang 2s/3s
@ALPHA.Mods.1
@ALPHA.Mods.1 5 жыл бұрын
Cool!! Need to get one. Is it worth the cost?
@zeroblade6599
@zeroblade6599 5 жыл бұрын
Pricewise the accufakes are cheaper, but halfdarts take up a lot less space, which would matter to me more. I've got an order coming in for halfdart parts for a retaliator to see how I like them. Might switch my entire arsenal over to halfdarts
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
Accufakes won't work well in a sealed breech though, the heads will rub on the inside of the barrel.
@MishraArtificer
@MishraArtificer 5 жыл бұрын
They even get stuck in my unbrassed Retalicon, with standard-sized plunger tube and a 7kg spring. I think those will stay with my flywheelers.
@ryandavis3228
@ryandavis3228 5 жыл бұрын
Great Video Brad
@drewbenson3558
@drewbenson3558 5 жыл бұрын
Very well done. I would suggest using a larger testing size of darts, particularly in the range test.
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't really want to fire that many into my street, but I get where you're coming from.
@drewbenson3558
@drewbenson3558 5 жыл бұрын
@@BradleyPhillipsYT oh well that makes since. Still a very well done testing vid, and very informative.
@Sojitsu922
@Sojitsu922 5 жыл бұрын
Would it be justified to invest in a half-length dart stryfe for a UMP.45/MP5 .40 look?
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Sojitsu922
@Sojitsu922 5 жыл бұрын
@@BradleyPhillipsYT Sweet. I'll send you pics if I ever get it started/finished. Thanks for the reply!
@extramile3382
@extramile3382 5 жыл бұрын
Deserve a LIKE. Great comparison. What do you think the performance of stryfe + fang + 42.5mm aurora ofp cage + worker white std flywheel + lipo 7.4V and using worker half dart? Have you done the test for this configuration? Or your estimation on the result?
@cosmic5386
@cosmic5386 3 жыл бұрын
Hey you should trying using caps on spring revolvers like strongarm there basically half darts but cut to the white when I fire them in my strong on they make a snapping sound when the hit something like a fire crackers of course flywheels would preform poorly
@seandoremmerson7367
@seandoremmerson7367 5 жыл бұрын
How much will you sell your full length one for? I am interested in getting an FDL.
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
Are you from Australia? Postage can be killer to overseas so I was hoping to ship it atleast within the country.
@seandoremmerson7367
@seandoremmerson7367 5 жыл бұрын
Bradley Phillips no I live in Washington DC in the United States
@seandoremmerson7367
@seandoremmerson7367 5 жыл бұрын
Could I have an idea of the price you selling the FDL for. If the blaster price is reasonable I would definitely pay money for shipping
@seandoremmerson7367
@seandoremmerson7367 5 жыл бұрын
Bradley Phillips I understand if you don’t want to go threw the postage and shipping the package. No worries 👍
@fernoflake
@fernoflake 4 жыл бұрын
So would you suggest half length or full length for a hammershot then?
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't really matter much with a hammershot because the range is so short but half lengths would be more accurate
@fernoflake
@fernoflake 4 жыл бұрын
@@BradleyPhillipsYT thanks for such a quick reply! Modding my hammershot and have barely any darts so looking for something slightly more competitive and better then nerf, only really doing indoor battles but any extra power helps.
@Blomgrensworld
@Blomgrensworld 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Bradley! Love this video! Do you mind me asking what specific scope you are using? Thanks a ton!
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
Any generic 1x red dot sight would be plenty for this, the one I'm using is a Redfield but there are way cheaper options in the replica market rather than getting a real steel one.
@Blomgrensworld
@Blomgrensworld 5 жыл бұрын
@@BradleyPhillipsYT Thank you very much! Such a big help and really appreciate your reply!
@huiunit
@huiunit 2 жыл бұрын
curious, do full length or half length hurt more?
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 2 жыл бұрын
Both the same
@TastierBackInThe80s
@TastierBackInThe80s 5 жыл бұрын
Does that cross wind being as strong as it Influence accuracy or range any? Thanks for sharing.
@scottjs5207
@scottjs5207 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, weight and surface area would be the reason for that. The bigger dart catches more force from the wind, but the smaller dart having less mass would also be affected, just in different ways.
@electro740
@electro740 3 жыл бұрын
I have a half length fdl and it usually averages 170 just like your full length
@doctorphrog
@doctorphrog 5 жыл бұрын
You're selling your full length one? If you put it on ebay, could you drop a link to the listing? I'd definitely like to see if I could get my hands on one maybe a little cheaper than they are brand new.
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
Was probably going to try to sell locally or at least within Australia
@doctorphrog
@doctorphrog 5 жыл бұрын
@@BradleyPhillipsYT Flying to Australia may still be cheaper than buying a new one... lol. jk.That's too bad but thanks for letting me know. Hope you're enjoying your new shorty :]
@xLuCasanovax
@xLuCasanovax 5 жыл бұрын
Would the tests change if you fired in full auto or burst fire?
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
No, the blaster would still rev to the same RPM before pushing a dart in.
@derrick25xl
@derrick25xl 5 жыл бұрын
Can the full length FDL take the Katana mag adapter?
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
The full length was originally designed without any thought for half lengths, so no. There's a gap between the flywheels and where a katana mag would sit, even with a forward adapter.
@derrick25xl
@derrick25xl 5 жыл бұрын
I ordered the FDL with the 40 dart mag well adapter with the inserts so you can use standard mags. And was curious if I could use the inserts with short dart mag adapter a shot half lengths.
@Daniemac
@Daniemac 5 жыл бұрын
So what about a full length dart with a worker tip
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
Not better than Adventure Force
@Daniemac
@Daniemac 5 жыл бұрын
Just saw the adventure force comparison, do you think a full length would perform even better?
@reedpratt1985
@reedpratt1985 5 жыл бұрын
Other than the motor improvements, why would you choose to purchase a completely new blaster when they make talon mag adapters? Seems silly to spend the money on something that can only fire ONE type of ammo when you could just use an adapter and use them both? Or is it that the pusher motor doesn't extend far enough to push half-lengths through the full-length chamber, so you just need a new chassis to accommodate the difference in dart length?
@tanjasteinrotter8084
@tanjasteinrotter8084 5 жыл бұрын
An idea for a video series:Can it fire half lenght Darts? Going from all the way down with jolts all the way up to...a titan;D
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
Most things can with enough modifications!
@siliconesword1798
@siliconesword1798 5 жыл бұрын
can you give me a link to the accufakes?
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
Here's some. If you search their website you should find more colour options. m.nfstrike.com/p/300Pcs-Foam-Bullets-for-Nerf-N-strike-Elite-Series_MU2336475.html
@ColtenMallow
@ColtenMallow 5 жыл бұрын
Does the flywheel your using not take time to get up to speed?
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
It's robotic so it revs to the power you've set and then fires all from one trigger pull.
@ColtenMallow
@ColtenMallow 5 жыл бұрын
Wow. That's cool! Thanks for replying.
@ryandavis3228
@ryandavis3228 5 жыл бұрын
It’s in Georgia this year just west of savannah
@ChrisD__
@ChrisD__ 5 жыл бұрын
Why does all the Nerf stuff happen in Georgia?
@metanoba4099
@metanoba4099 5 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know you could get a Stefan FDL that’s cool
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
It should be called a SteFDL
@Boomtendo4tw
@Boomtendo4tw 5 жыл бұрын
Bradley Phillips HalFDL
@zeroblade6599
@zeroblade6599 5 жыл бұрын
Or maybe a HDL?
@luketanton4056
@luketanton4056 5 жыл бұрын
I am thinking of saving up for an fdl 3 but don't have the capability to put it together properly without damaging it as I have discovered through many failed flywheel mods, is it worth buying one put together?
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
Jesse does a fantastic job assembling them in-house so if you don't feel comfortable assembling one yourself I'd definitely recommend going that route.
@luketanton4056
@luketanton4056 5 жыл бұрын
@@BradleyPhillipsYT brilliant will have a look :) thx for the help
@flowerperson581
@flowerperson581 5 жыл бұрын
This video is extremely underrated. Thank you for this.
@jeff_zilla5106
@jeff_zilla5106 4 жыл бұрын
You cant do an accuracy test outside and dissec accurate results thing video is trash
@ChungyCheese
@ChungyCheese 5 жыл бұрын
Dang how do you own two of these?
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
Sold a kidney
@ChungyCheese
@ChungyCheese 5 жыл бұрын
@@BradleyPhillipsYT lmao
@MichaelSmith-gv7wf
@MichaelSmith-gv7wf 5 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, what was the springer you were using at the end of this video? 3D Printed?
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
Xzeus 2 from Jet Blaster
@ovase1123
@ovase1123 5 жыл бұрын
That's cool
@ALPHA.Mods.1
@ALPHA.Mods.1 5 жыл бұрын
Oh. And how much you selling for?
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
I'm trying to keep sales talk to private messages but I have a buyer lined up. I'll let you know if that falls through.
@ALPHA.Mods.1
@ALPHA.Mods.1 5 жыл бұрын
@@BradleyPhillipsYT ok
@jkeating9417
@jkeating9417 5 жыл бұрын
This is cool!
@mobilenation1104
@mobilenation1104 8 ай бұрын
i do really wish to have my own cool flywheel blaster rifle!
@RDarkhill
@RDarkhill 5 жыл бұрын
Makes me wonder what a full length Worker dart could do.
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
I've actually made some before and they were worse than Accufakes. Must be something about the 36mm size.
@rmfberry261
@rmfberry261 5 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed by the half accu. They seemed to whirly worse then the full!
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
They definitely did perform worse. Bad dart design perhaps and is more evident on the half length?
@rmfberry261
@rmfberry261 5 жыл бұрын
Bradley Phillips that a good guess. The little pockets on the head can't be good for aerodynamics
@scottjs5207
@scottjs5207 5 жыл бұрын
So this brings back up that question from before... "What if Worker made full length darts?"
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
I made my own full length Worker darts when I first got the FDL-3 and they weren't as good as Accufakes
@androoloo1697
@androoloo1697 4 жыл бұрын
the equivalent of airsoft for nerf. very cool i'll be getting an airsoft next year but for now i'll be using the nerf springers.
@UncleLabsTV
@UncleLabsTV 4 жыл бұрын
Who else thinks nerf should make a half dart series
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 4 жыл бұрын
They won't, because they're Nerf.
@ninjashidan
@ninjashidan 5 жыл бұрын
If you're selling your previous fdl I'm interested :)
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
For sales info it's probably best to inbox me on FB
@hohcomics
@hohcomics 5 жыл бұрын
Im not a expert but you should test your accuracy test in no wind conditions.
@Boomtendo4tw
@Boomtendo4tw 5 жыл бұрын
Now you just need full length Worker darts
@Antispywarze
@Antispywarze 5 жыл бұрын
Worker really needs to start making those. Not really sure why that haven't yet :/
@EggiHL
@EggiHL 5 жыл бұрын
Absolut great testing!! Greetings from germany. :-)
@saavedravideos258
@saavedravideos258 5 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie I prefer full length over half length for 2 simple reasons. 1 is because they are better esthetic ally because the over all blaster looks better with the full size dart mags and the second reason is because to this day full length darts are by far still the most commonly used, so if your gonna buy and use blasters with half size darts good luck on having your blaster being compatible with other blasters ammo. On a third note half and full length darts perform the same in range and half length are even worse in accuracy. So why really even use half length darts.
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
Half length are worse in accuracy? Where did you get that information?
@urukatakemoto1789
@urukatakemoto1789 5 жыл бұрын
That’s because there’s less dart to push in the flywheel but in a spring half’s are better
@colinsantos9079
@colinsantos9079 5 жыл бұрын
What do you think of using Full Length Worker darts?
@taggedout5980
@taggedout5980 5 жыл бұрын
What short dart pusher would you suggest? (any helpful suggestions welcome!)
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
For a Stryfe? I'd have a look at NerfEze's magwell adapter with integrated extension piece.
@ryandavis3228
@ryandavis3228 5 жыл бұрын
Wish EndWar would do a 160 cap rather than 130 fps
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm, you've got to remember that people are running at you completely unarmed. They probably don't want to cop a 160fps shot to the lip, it's a little off putting to zombies. You can however adjust the FDL-3 so it shoots below 130fps.
@wasabithegosu
@wasabithegosu 5 жыл бұрын
My brother tagged my 7yr old son as my son’s mask was falling off. Couldn’t have been worse timing. His Caliburn was shooting 170fps. Tagged my son almost in the eye at 10 meters. The same son (i have twins) took a few in the gut from me at 1 meter with my 210fps Caliburn. He took it like a man. I think it’s just eye and mouth protection that’s most important though
@justacameraman4900
@justacameraman4900 3 жыл бұрын
*HOT TAKE* (not really): regardless of performance, half length darts are better because you can carry much more ammo.
@Stalin99
@Stalin99 4 жыл бұрын
Full darts are for assault rifles and half darts are for machine pistols. You can't change my mind
@ar.temis696
@ar.temis696 2 жыл бұрын
Bro I don’t even have a single brushless blaster and you have two FDL-3s
@tatsuhirosatou5513
@tatsuhirosatou5513 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like the 3D printed flywheel might be throwing your accuracy off, my stryfe with containment crew cyclones in a 41.5mm of cage running on fang revamps shooting dartzone waffle heads does a lot better at 100ft than your fdl did with the accfakes more on par with the worker darts.
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
That's because dart zone adventure force are the best flywheel dart
@tatsuhirosatou5513
@tatsuhirosatou5513 5 жыл бұрын
@@BradleyPhillipsYT that could be I haven't used accufakes because I'm too impatient for the shipping from China, so I have basically only used workers, genuine elites, no name fvjs that came with some random Amazon 18 mags, and both waffle head and nipple tip dart zone darts, but I'm my stryfe the dartzone waffle do keep up with workers( loading them one in front of the other in a 6mag to single shot them in case your wondering how I tested them in a stryfe.)
@bikerkid1187
@bikerkid1187 5 жыл бұрын
*THE REASON THE ACCUFAKE DARTS DONT CONE OUT AS FAST IS BECAUSE THEY ARE SHORTER AND THE FLYWHEELS DON'T HAVE AS MUCH FOAM TO GRAB ON TO*
@ryanbaldwin8842
@ryanbaldwin8842 5 жыл бұрын
That's... what the video said...
@t3233226
@t3233226 5 жыл бұрын
まあそうなるでしょう、電動はフライホイールでダーツを加速しているのだから同一形状なら加速時間の長いノーマルサイズのが良い結果が出るのは理論的に予測できますね
@OCNerf
@OCNerf 5 жыл бұрын
Half Dart the World
@zagnerok
@zagnerok 5 жыл бұрын
Finally
@thanhavictus
@thanhavictus 5 жыл бұрын
I hope this encourages peoples to end using half accufakes. I really dislike those, esp in community pool for compatibility
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
It just goes to show there's more to accuracy than cutting darts in half
@crystalzues4712
@crystalzues4712 2 жыл бұрын
I believe this is quite poor testing for accuracy as there alot of human error as you raise the gun each time to hit the bin
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 2 жыл бұрын
Because sights don't exist
@burtonma07
@burtonma07 5 жыл бұрын
In conclusion; springers>flywheelers
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
For long range, yes. At close range and if you're good at using cover, I'd give the edge to flywheels.
@Loosha1610
@Loosha1610 8 ай бұрын
at some point we are going to have 1/4th darts.... just do airsoft at that point... i like the full length cause it's actually nerf and not just "almost" airsoft....
@kittenclaws5775
@kittenclaws5775 5 жыл бұрын
I feel like your sample sizes could have been bigger. I mean, I get not wanting to run 5000 of each round cause like, we all have lives but ten feels, if you'll forgive the word play, cut a bit short. I like the methodology, though!
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
Do you think firing more shots would change the overall conclusion?
@kittenclaws5775
@kittenclaws5775 5 жыл бұрын
@@BradleyPhillipsYT It might? Not much. Again, your method is sound enough I don't think you're ruining science here ;) But the deviation between full and half length FPS is really statistically small. A run of 50 - 100 would have given a better sample size and I think the overall trend might have shown a slightly smaller difference, since a handful of outliers can run together, but a couple dozen probably won't. I don't think your results and conclusion are invalidated in any way, this video is excellent, solid and clear methods and discussion, reasonable results that your conclusions fit. It's less a complaint and more an idle thought that the testing part of my brain is so happy with literally everything else that the one (perceived) shortcoming in rigor stands out. You did so well, that the small sample size stood out amongst the rest! I think part of it is that in most of your videos it also feels like the test shots you take are only exemplar of what you've already been testing and examining, and this feels fully experimental, so while you're take on, say, specific SCAR barrels just sounds like "Yeah, he's shot a lot of this, we don't need to see ALL of that" this feels less rigorous. Again, not a complaint, more a "Huh. That stood out." Your videos are always interesting and informative, well shot, and clear!
@BradleyPhillipsYT
@BradleyPhillipsYT 5 жыл бұрын
@@kittenclaws5775 You're right to assume I fire a lot more darts over a chrony than what I bother to include in a video, same with firing at targets. I've known for a while that Worker darts are more accurate in flywheel blasters than full length Accufakes, and that the velocity gap isn't as bad as people on the internet would have you believe, I just didn't have the means to show it in a video in a fair comparison until now.
@kittenclaws5775
@kittenclaws5775 5 жыл бұрын
@@BradleyPhillipsYT It went to reason that you did! It might be worth shutting nosey folk like me up by mentioning "Yeah so this is the ten shots I filmed but it's representative of a lot of shooting." Which no one sensible should question because real life.
@Vikinger119
@Vikinger119 5 жыл бұрын
ay i was right
@GG-si7fw
@GG-si7fw 2 жыл бұрын
Come on. The best dart obviously is to glue two Worker half lengths to make a full length. 😆
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