Comparison of Transformers Masterpiece MP-45 Bumblebee and other G1 MPs

[@ltmc2h694]

Some people: yOu’Re A tAkArA fAn BoY Also the same people: *brings out TAKARA MP-21*

[@KoolKollectibles]

🤣🤣

[@jordanharrington1890]

I see MP21 and MP45 as two complete different figures. One goes for an homage to G1 with the real world car aesthetics and one goes for hypertoon accuracy 🤷🏾‍♂️ I lean more towards the MP21 for those reasons but they did an amazing job with MP45 coming straight out of the cartoon.....but thank God for options amirite 😆

[@KoolKollectibles]

Yep, it's a great time being a collector with so many choices.

[@JustinsCollection]

Totally agree here. At the end of the day, does it fit the brief of being as cartoon accurate as possible? Yes. I don’t understand how people want “updated” G1 toys when the originals already exist. To my knowledge there’s never been fully transformable figures as accurate to the cartoon as what we’ve been getting recently. Isn’t that just selfish that people want updated, let’s be honest, pretty ugly toys from the 80s over something that we’ve never had before? People need to check themselves.

[@KoolKollectibles]

I wouldn't say it's selfish, just different wants. If people prefer more toy accurate designs, that's fine. But then their argument the new figures suck aren't valid. I think people just need to understand Takara has always been about trying to make cartoon accurate figures. Now they've got many of the techniques to make it even more possible than before.

[@predaking2wings]

thanks for defending mp 45 it is soo much better than the old version . Yea mp45 it does have his flaws but it is soo much better. i never got the first mp bumblebee because of the face sculpt, but really want to get this mp45 when the price is right!

[@KoolKollectibles]

I'm sure you'll like it when you get it!

[@dustyyshellz1320]

That’s exactly how infernos alt mode looks in the cartoon, that one really confuses me but I’ve heard the complaints about the arms too 😭

[@KoolKollectibles]

Some complaints are valid, but many make absolutely no sense.

[@RungeTim]

Hey, I super appreciate this video! I've been on the line between one or the other and I see pros and cons for each. This is easily the most well thought out and articulated argument for MP-45 and overall very well done! I'm subscribed! Keep up the good work, my friend.

[@KoolKollectibles]

Cheers, thanks for watching and subscribing 😃

[@chadstern8013]

No joke...this series is fantastic! I can't afford it at this point in my life. Very close to the cartoon is what I prefer as well. Surprised the creators or manufacturers went back to the roots.

[@KoolKollectibles]

Yeah, the designs are pretty nice I think. Thanks for checking out the videos!

[@myang12003]

You can't beat the price because the original MP bumblebee is cheaper on bigbadtoystore that the new MP 45 bumblebee

[@KoolKollectibles]

Of course the new one will be more expensive! It's designed and manufactured about 7 years apart! Very different figures.

[@shinjihye675]

The only problems I find in other review is that there’s no WAIST ROTATION on mp-45. 120$ and no waist swivel

[@KoolKollectibles]

Yeah, the waist rotation is hindered by the bottom part of the back piece. There's only a tiny bit of movement. I'll have to check the instructions to see if the rotation is meant to be like mp44 and you need to lift something to get it rotating....

[@myang12003]

That's a waist of money!

[@Eseres80]

As far as MP-45 goes, the only complaints I have are the feet and that the backpack could have been compressed just a tiny bit more. The backpack isn't bad at all, but it just looks like it could go in just a little further. Its the back of the damn feet that is the problem! Why didn't they find a way to hide it better? Hide it inside the leg or under the foot and it would be much better. Even if they had made it possible to shift the ankle joint a tiny bit backwards would have made it better. Now it just looks like he has the ankle joint placed at the middle of his foot. But overall MP-45 looks just fine to me, and Im very happy with the MP line in general so far. The real complaint I have is on Takara directly, because there are certain figures that I really, really, absolutely and positively need, and I just can't get them fast enough LOL! THATS my complaint, hehe.. As far as all the bullshit critisism certain people tends to serve goes? There is alot of anger going around out there, buddy LOL! And then there is those who are completely fanatic and convinced that their opinion is in deed the correct one, no matter what! Better not breake their fragile little hearts with your opinion, or else the shit will shower down at you for 40 days and 40 nights, my friend LOL! Type lightly in the forums, because you never know who hides behind the next jpeg, gif or advertisement... MVHUAAHAHAHAHAAA!!!

[@KoolKollectibles]

TF fans rival Star Wars fans in craziness 🤣

[@Eseres80]

So true 🤣👍

[@PacoGrande76]

Don’t worry about the haters. It’s best to just like what you like and move on. Many awesome posters on TFW2005 have moved on and don’t post as much anymore because of all the hate. I post way less on there myself because I’m so tired of the arguments. I own both MP Bumblebees and the new one is infinitely better. It’s not even close. Of course it has flaws as most figures do. The feet are not ideal and the waist joint on mine is crazy loose but it can only swivel a few degrees so it’s not bugging me too much. I was lucky with the paint on mine. The only issue is that the hood panel is not quite as bright yellow as the fenders in alt mode but I display in bot mode so I’m ok with it. Takara does need to tighten up the factory quality. I wish they would stop manufacturing in Vietnam or at least train the workers better. I find that the MPs made in China are usually higher quality on average. You are absolutely correct about people hating on Inferno when he first came out. And now a lot of people have changed their minds. Inferno and Grapple are my favourite MPs. I’m a collector for the engineering and in my opinion Takara is doing a fantastic job with their current design direction. It’s not easy to make a realistic car turn into a cartoon accurate bot. Sunstreaker is a great example of that. And they even added a second version of the car mode for the license without parts forming! Amazing! And you are bang on about older figures like Prowl being universally praised and yet from the back it’s a gappy mess. I have no idea why Prowl is ok for some people but Sunstreaker is not. I’ve always wanted to start a thread on TFW to measure all the backpacks on the MPs. The older MPs have backpacks that are just as thick as the new figures but many people don’t seem to realize it. I prefer Sunstreakers backpack to Sideswipes because it doesn’t have any gaps and looks more cohesive. Also, if you want the front of the figure to look the best you can , where else would you put the car kibble? Of course it must be in the backpack. Would people prefer the kibble to be on the arms? The chest? Takara is using every cubic millimeter of space they can. There aren’t many empty spaces in the alt modes. Bumblebee V2 is not perfect, but he pulls off both modes very well considering how different they are and from most display angles he looks incredible. I absolutely love the head sculpt and arm articulation.

[@KoolKollectibles]

Agree with all that you said! Yeah, I have thought about whether the quality has dropped since production went to Vietnam. I think I've been pretty lucky with QC issues. As for TFW, most hate is actually coming from the FB groups. The TFW threads have been pretty good in balanced discussion.

[@PacoGrande76]

Kool Kollectibles Some of the MPs are still made in China. I don’t have enough data points to make an official call but in my experience Vietnam seems to get the smaller or older figure repaints (Bee 2.0, Blackarachnia, the plus repaints) and China gets the rest (Prime 3.0, Hound I think?). My figures from Vietnam are typically worse. Also there seems to be a ton of factory thefts from Vietnam which is why there are so many loose factory rejects of Bee 2.0 and Blackarachnia for sale online. Also my experience on TFW has not been balanced and my ignore list is now epic. It’s tolerable now. But I find the discussion always gets ugly when a thread ends up on the front page. The people posting in a thread for months while waiting for a figure to release seem to be more level headed, but when there’s a front page news post about a figure you get all the random haters that don’t even collect MPs popping in thread to let us all know that the figure sucks.

[@iamerikr]

Awesome review as usual!! Thanks for all you do! Look forward to the next reviews

[@KoolKollectibles]

Thanks for tuning in 😀

[@XteroBlade2117]

My-45 is awesome because there’s almost zero kibble on the front view and despite the big backpack and the back of the feet being big, it’s very accurate

[@KoolKollectibles]

I think it's a huge improvement over MP-21. The backpack and feet dont even bother me that much, since you can barely see them when displayed.

[@DragoonMS]

There were complaints about Inferno & Grapple!? What the deuce!? Those two and Starsaber had to be *THE BEST* for anime accuracy. I think that maybe the complaints about how overly messy and panely things look may have started en masse with the MP36 Megatron, whose robot mode is phenomenal, but the back ain't quite the cleanest (probably cleaner than later entries), but gun mode makes the old Classics Deluxe Ironhide mold look LESS sloppy than it was. Really, despite the flaws in the engineering philosophy, I don't think that there's any way they can go so hyper accurate to the anime without having flaws for most characters. Some could've been done better, like Blackarachnia, though...her spider mode is kinda stinky. (Notice I didn't mention either MP28 or MP40 versions of Hot Rod, whose robot mode is kinda trash in exchange for a pretty nifty car mode.)

[@KoolKollectibles]

There's always design compromises, some good and bad. But to say the new BB is trash and not worthy of being an MP is just ridiculous.

[@DragoonMS]

@@KoolKollectibles ...yeah, the whole "not MP worthy" schtick is a huge stretch. Guess folks forgot about the hate that the MP11 mold got (and even moreso once Maketoys did their first three Seekers).

[@KoolKollectibles]

@@DragoonMS will be interesting if Takara does a new seeker mold. Comparisons to maketoys would be fun. I think those look decent overall!

[@matthewmccarron8915]

Good reviews, your opinions are always spot-on. If I had to guess about the complainers it's mostly happening due to the high price. People are more apt to bitch because they feel something closer to "perfection" is what the price point demands.

[@KoolKollectibles]

Price is definitely a major factor.

[@Envisaged0ne]

I watched your review & thought you were objective. You were also stating your opinion & you liked the figure. So people that didn't like it will accuse you of not being objective. It's stupid to be honest the way people act. I got the figure & I wasn't sure how I was going to feel about it. With the kibble on the back of his feet & I thought his face sculpt looked kinda derpy. But once I got the figure in hand, I thought it looked really good & the positives outweighed the negatives. I think it's a lot more cartoon accurate than MP-21

[@KoolKollectibles]

Thanks for your thoughts! Yes I think it's pretty good in hand and nowhere near as bad as people say it is.

[@2007suprasport]

These guy's are crazy! The 2.0 is infinitely better. There's just no comparison. They're like in a completely separate class. Is almost like the MP-44 vs the MP10, there's just no comparison. Don't get me wrong! They were all great figures for there time. But the new generation of MP figures are just Superior. Look I understand, it Sucks!..people don't want to have to rebuy figures they already have. Completely understandable! Not to mention the mp45 fthrows off there scale. Especially if you invested in alot of those 3rd Party mini Bots! Like Ocular max Toro, and Badcube Brawny, gears, etc... Don't get me wrong! When those Maketoys Seekers came out! They were almost infinitely superior to the Takara and people were like Dang! Am going to have to rebuy like almost $400.00 dollars worth of figures and than what am I going to do with the old ones? Which I spent like $600.00 bucks on. It sucks! But I say ...sell them. Try to recoup some your money back. You can't listen to these guys, its what ever you want to do. I hate when people knock stuff, just because they don't have it! Or don't want to spend the money on it! But these are the same guy's who as soon as they Get it! They're on IG saying how amazing the figure is. Bro! I have the Magic Square ms-01 and I know for a Fact that MP-44 is Superior, but I just can't see myself paying $450.00. But am not gonna say the figure sucks! Just because I don't have it! Definitely the Best Prime to date..is it worth $450.00, that's a topic for another time. Don't listen to these Fools!

[@KoolKollectibles]

Agree with pretty much everything you said :D

[@kotzvalderrama3775]

Spot on

[@djdime2002]

People are idiots. For one, calling you a Takara Fanboy... they do know, both of those figures are Takara right? And I follow you on FB some, I will send you a message so you know who I am. But yeah man, to hell with them. The one thing I can say, is you give fair and honest reviews. They are just morons, don't worry about them and keep up the great work.

[@KoolKollectibles]

Thanks for tuning in!

[@glynlewis5512]

I enjoy your reviews. Unfortunately there are too many attention seekers with too much time on their hands.

[@KoolKollectibles]

I probably spend too much time in those forums and groups myself. But hopefully this gives some insight into why I think the hate is unwarranted 😀

[@kotzvalderrama3775]

Great review as always. I 've been collecting TF toys for 2 years now. And I've never bought a single bee figure aside from mp45. It's a good figure and all the hate is coming from the price point. No offense on people who prefer the 1st version. But look at those chicken legs and the body proportion. mp45 is cartoon accurate AH. MP 45's alt mode is shorter than v1 but taller in it's robot mode. Engineering in mp45 is superb although Im hearing bad things regarding it's plastic quality. Still, I'm excited to get my copy.

[@KoolKollectibles]

There aren't too many QC issues on mine thankfully. Hope yours turns out ok too!

[@kotzvalderrama3775]

@@KoolKollectibles Thanks man.

[@white09stang]

Great review!!! I think Takara is doing an awesome job in designing the new MP line. I do wish the prices were a little cheaper but you get what you pay for.

[@KoolKollectibles]

Price is definitely an issue. Luckily they don't release these too fast anymore, so more time for me to save up.

[@lowellmartens6135]

My biggest problem with the figure is the price point. I have a hard time being completely satisfied with this release when I compare it to the last 3rd party car bot I purchased - FT Spoiler. I paid about the same for them, but Spoiler is twice the figure. It looks better in both modes, the mass shifting it does is pretty amazing, and it feels like a quality figure when you pick it up. Honestly, if this Bee was about $65 I would be a lot Happier. With MP-44 at least there are a ton of extra's and the figure looks amazing in both modes. Thank-you for the comparison.

[@KoolKollectibles]

Price is definitely a factor. Luckily they release these pretty slowly now so it gives me plenty of time to save up during the preorder period.

[@LSWSjr]

Personally, I've more developed a growing distaste for the MPs in general, with the ever increasing prices for figures that have consistent QC issues and it's certainly not like their designs are lightyears apart from the quality work we're seeing in the core product lines for a fifth of the price. At the end of the day, I'd rather add another combiner team to my collection over a single MP.

[@ciarankilmartin9058]

Just got mine and I love him already want a second for what I think is the most iconic alt mode ever made. Toon heaven......

[@KoolKollectibles]

Indeed :) I still like the realistic car mode of the original, and it's great we still have the option to display them all in those realistic modes with all their decal details.

[@ciarankilmartin9058]

Agreed. I have him in original alt mode, have gold bug in robot so just need one more 45 for alt mode and I’ll have all four modes ❤️

[@kitkittang13]

lets be fair, they both good,

[@KoolKollectibles]

New one in bot mode for me, old one in car mode. Best of both worlds.

[@sidewalkfish9256]

Gotta get mp-45, is he worth the 60$ ko price?

[@KoolKollectibles]

If you like g1 style, then mp-45 is great. Not sure about the KO build quality.

[@TheRealDustinNunn]

As much as I enjoy TakaraTomy's Transformers Masterpiece figures, TakaraTomy never do think before they create their Masterpiece Transformers figures because in my opinion, they are rushed.

[@jkliao6486]

For me, the only issue is that nowadays MP's have too many fake chests. I am not against fake chest, they are fine if they make the figure more cartoon accurate, yet it is just at a point where every single panel is fake and toys today are just like peeling off the fake panels and hide them inside (or exposed in some cases), that is when you know the designers got lazy. In contrast, designs like sunstreaker are in credible. It has a fake chest I agree, but at least the effort is there.

[@KoolKollectibles]

I disagree that fake chests mean the designers are lazy. It actually takes more engineering design to build in the fake chest to allow accurate representation in both modes. The fact they can achieve this in an all-in-one transformation is awesome. This applies to sunstreaker and the new BB and OP.

[@jkliao6486]

@@KoolKollectibles It is easy to have a fake chest than to actually try to recreate the transformation step in the cartoon. For me, it has always been the combination of both cartoon-accuracy and cartoon transformation step. Like MP 36, you can see that how megatron is transformed from various designs, yet they simply used those countless panels. That is some lame designs. Again, that is only my preference.

[@KoolKollectibles]

@@jkliao6486 There are times where the fake chest is unavoidable if they want to have cartoon accuracy in both mode. For example, Sunstreaker and BB need to because the autobot insignia changes position in both car mode and bot mode. That "cheat" in the cartoon can only be met in real transformation through use of a fake chest that also looks much better in either mode. SImilarly for MP-44 Optimus, where the change in chest allows the figure to look its best in both modes. The 3rd party OP figures are decent, but none of them look as good as MP-44 in terms of overall proportions and style.

[@jkliao6486]

@@KoolKollectibles I believe I clearly stated that imo, sunstreaker has a great design WITH the fake chest. You don't have to convince me with sth I agree.

[@sgt.bumblbeer]

Kool comparison. Front look of the new one, is for me more G1 - but the older one is more solid (for me) and does not have these extreme overlapping parts, that are also very ugly. Sidewise it does not feel finished. Maybe the 45 is more convincing as 4th party, cause of the price point... if you don't give him a 360 he's a big hit, or? Greetz

[@nathanchansler9744]

I agree 100%

[@elitegamer21005]

The only thing I hate about this figure is all the other 3rd party minibots look to small compared to MP-45

[@KoolKollectibles]

A bit of variation in height is OK I think. I guess the scale chart has BB slightly taller than MP-21 so they changed it. But the scale chart is wrnog is some cases too, so it's all a compromise. I just wish Takara would announce more G1 characters but it seems they've slowed down a lot on that front.

[@elitegamer21005]

Kool Kollectibles Yeah

[@themanaiacalgamer8451]

It's not about how big or gappy the feet and backpack are. It's the fact they are UGLY where as those other bots aren't.

[@KoolKollectibles]

Definitely agree the back of the feet are ugly. But I think the backpack is on par with the rest of the MP series. Very few of them look good from the rear back pack wise.

[@themanaiacalgamer8451]

@@KoolKollectibles I guess it's a matter of taste but none of the backpacks from the bots you've shown are even 10% as ugly as bee's as far as I am concerned. Big or gappy maybe yes but bee has the ugliest one of them all imho. It's the huge number of parts, their shape and the way they fit together that make it bad.

[@KoolKollectibles]

We'll have to agree to disagree. I think MP-45's backpack is fine, especially when considered with all the positives the mold provides in terms of more cartoon accuracy in both modes. MP-45 reminds me far more about the cartoon that I loved watching as a kid than MP-21 does.

[@Sideswipe5236]

I like my Takara figs, do I have gripes with them? Absolutely, do I think the feet and backpack could be better on mp 45? Absolutely! the back and the feet do look like shit, but so does tracks, the Datsuns are cool, are they perfect? Nope!. Still cartoon goodness in all of them, I've already replaced my Takara hotrod with Fanstoys because I just wasn't happy with the way it looked. It's all personal preference, it's the interweb, everyone has an opinion, some of the choices on mp 45 to me are unacceptable but at the end of the day it still looks the part, tracks not so much, that definitely needs to be redone. I'm not a Takara Fanboy but I like what looks best, I'm more a Fanstoys Fanboy but their figs are top shelf, perfect? No! But again, I don't think it's hate for the figs, I think it's disappointment and people express things the wrong way. Try not to take it to heart. In 1 ear and out the other. Thanks for the video, good stuff.

[@KoolKollectibles]

Thanks for checking out the video! :)

[@richardencomienda6408]

I guess it really depends on the copy you will get. Takara quality control has been really shitty especially in the first run. My mp 44 was a mess.

[@KoolKollectibles]

I must be lucky. My MP-44 didn't have any major issues either. I was pretty careful in following good transformation videos so knew what to look out for.

[@MentasmUK]

My MP-44 had a broken left knee out of the box and some paint issues, not to mention the seemingly universal bent antennae issue. Not what I expect from a figure with that price tag. My MP-45 is similarly afflicted, with a gouge in the right headlight, loose legs and elbows, and some paint problems (the mouths on mine are hardly painted at all). Some of the criticisms of both figures are perfectly valid. MP-45, for example, is too tall, has ugly feet and side profile views, and is way too expensive for what it is. I'm very annoyed that the KO/factory seconds started showing up literally the day I got my official one, because I would have totally gone for that and saved around £30 (which is a much more realistic price point). Takara seems content to make bots that look great from the front, but sacrifice cleanliness for the sake of extreme articulation. I could live with that, but the QC is also a lottery these days so you just don't know if you're going to get a dud or not.

[@KoolKollectibles]

@@MentasmUK I didn't think mp45 was too tall. Going by the official g1 scale chart, it looks pretty spot on I thought next to mp44. Shame your last few figures had so many QC issues.

[@KoolKollectibles]

@@MentasmUK I don't get the complaints about the design apart from the feet. Side and back views are an issue with almost all the MPs, so it's not like it's isolated to mp44 and mp45.

[@MentasmUK]

@@KoolKollectibles Part of the problem is that people have a lot of choice now and 3P companies quite often produce better stuff. You compare something like TE-01 to MP-44 and the latter just looks like a panelled mess with a massive backpack. Sure you sacrifice a small bit of articulation with TE-01, but it still achieves most poses and is a third of the price.I disagree that they're an issue with almost all of the MP line as well. MP-08, MP-09, MP-10, MP-13, MP-20, MP-22, MP-29, MP-33/35 are all pretty clean when compared to what we're getting these days. I agree that some people go overboard with their criticism, but these things are valid discussion points (particularly given the aforementioned price and QC issues).

[@robertonline6543]

Seriously why do you go on forums and punish yourself? You know it's nothing but poisonous ppl trying to start drama and piss you off... I stay in 1 site and just keep it at that.

[@robertonline6543]

For the record I enjoy your content, thanks for the videos

[@KoolKollectibles]

Usually the groups and forums are pretty good. Most people there are great and post lots of good content. But debates on controversial figures always brings out the best/worst in people lol :D

[@KilosFoxo]

I prefer the original as the cr mode is accurate to the real world beetle

[@KoolKollectibles]

Yes, I have all the original car MPs in their car mode for all the realistic details. The + versions and the newer figures I have in bot mode for all the cartoon accuracy details.

[@heinzaut]

there´s a huge difference between those backpacks and the feet and the figure in general, on mp21 the backpack and the feet look good, there is no hollowness and the figure looks good from all sides. on mp-45 the backpack and the feet look unfinished and like it´s falling apart any moment. and that´s far worse engeneering, and btw on mp-45 the chest is way too small. for me mp-21 looks like a finished product in both modes. mp-45 looks like a cardboard stand-up, looks somewhat ok from the front, but completely falls apart from every other angle. and YES, i want my figures to look good from ALL angles and like a whole figure

[@KoolKollectibles]

I think your argument for no gaps forgets that MP-21 is far too barrel chested, looks like it has a turtle shell for a back, has thin chicken feet for legs, and overly large clown shoes for feet! I think it suits G1 toy fans far more than G1 cartoon fans that prefer their figures to look like the cartoon rather than the toy. I don't think the rear or the side looks unfinished at all. If you think they do, then you must think most of the MPs look unfinished because there are massive gaps all over the place. I think it's great that they engineered the design to be cartoon accurate in both modes to provide a BB transformation that isn't constrained by the roof or rear of the car. That's what innovative design does. Sure the feet are ugly at the rear, but I guess that was the compromise they were happy to have with all the other points. In comparison, I think MP-21 looks very dated now due to it's simpler design constrained by those large physical parts.

[@giantra8326]

Every time i see a review of this MP, i always hear this words "G1 Toy Fan" and "Cartoon Accured Fan"... To be honest guys, in the '80, the manufactory of the G1 toys had many issue, that force the company did toys like they were. But now that tecnology advance and i think that the nex lv of meck toys it has to be like THIS YELLOW BOY. I mean, if u watch a cartoon u aspect to have a toy that resemble that, not another thing. The perfect example??? Ironhide! Imagine a kid watching the serie and buy the G1 toy and he get this: robotoybase.com/image/cache/g1_Heads01-750x750.jpg instead of this: images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/619ZWNd9q5L._SY679_.jpg

[@giantra8326]

P.S. I hope they'll do even a Starscream and all Dinobots as well. I mean the Maketoys had already a good Starscream but i wanna see a Starscream V2 from Takara.

[@robertban871]

its not hard to understand, the cartoon itself isnt a masterpiece, so these figures end up looking as plain as characters straight out of cheap looking cartoon

[@KoolKollectibles]

The figures have perhaps less panel lining, but I dont think that necessarily means less detail or less engineering. I think many of lthe figures, especially Inferno, Sunstreaker, Optimus, and Bumblebee molds perhaps represent that the most. The paint apps are nice, glossy where needed, and the details are just enough to represent the cartoon and not seem boring. The engineering to support the transformations and articulation is where the real innovation and change is happening.

[@PacoGrande76]

Kool Kollectibles I’m really wondering if any of the toon direction haters have actually held one of these figures in their own hands. They don’t look cheap at all. They look super high end and polished. Prime V3 looks extremely high end in person.

[@KoolKollectibles]

@@PacoGrande76 Yep, mp44 looks amazing, especially next to mp10! Even all the side by side comparisons of mp44 and the 3rd party figures show how much more natural the figure looks.

[@thespaceram2879]

Prefer the previous Mp Bumble bee. Bet your favorite minibot is Outback. Bet you have some versions of him. Maybe you have even come across him (the real one) there where you live. Just like you do Crocodile Dundee and the other fellow natives. Including the kangaroos.

[@monologiorobotach557]

Recent figures are trash. There is no good engineering there just lazy panel folding.

[@KoolKollectibles]

Lol not sure how you can call those designs "lazy" but whatever 🤣🤣

[@monologiorobotach557]

@@KoolKollectibles there are multiple parts that could have been designed better in my opinion I could even improve them with some simple changes. The recent Takara mp buyer agrees with whatever they make and just buys it. I believe this is reflected in the design. Good example is transform element and Takara optimus.

[@KoolKollectibles]

I completely disagree with you if you think the TE Optimus is better than MP44. Every side by side comparison shows to me that MP44 looks more natural, has better body proportions and lines that flow better (aside from perhaps the larger backpack), has far better articulation, and generally looks more 86 movie accurate than TE. The TE figure is still boxy looking, lacks key articulation even in the thighs, and still required a separate head sculpt to be released to even look properly like Optimus.

[@monologiorobotach557]

@@KoolKollectibles The Design idea behind TE of the allows for more articulation with a bit more complexity. But there is no way to remove the puzzle look of mp44 it just does not look solid. Anyway we are far apart in our opinion and will not convince each other. I hope the fans vote with their wallets.

[@KoolKollectibles]

@@monologiorobotach557 Not sure if you've had a close enough look to MP44. It is most definitely a solid figure. All the panels you talk about fold alway and clip together perfectly. But you're absolutely right that our opinions are polar opposite. I think fans most definitely are voting with their wallets and buying the figures. I'll likely pass on upcoming MP49 repaint, but I'm sure that will sell well too, just like Hound.

[@fernandopickling]

Terrible design for these bumblebee ... a great character that be destroyed with this design ... what a pitty!!!