Comparison Theo Wanne Shiva 2 7* Durga 3 7* and Berg Larsen 102/5

[@Craig2760]

In high school I used to play a Berg 105/1 m with a Rico Royal 4. Pulled it out of the old gear drawer a few weeks ago and put on a Vandoren Red 2.5. It still sounds fantastic 45 years later.

[@HayKay_]

Watching this in 2023. Great video. This video is packed. Like the way you play. Will practise some of the things i heard.

[@jasonlloyd33]

Thank you so much! I’m so glad you enjoyed the video!

[@jonviol]

The Berg is perfect -rich full and not edgy. Tenor sound . The others are tinny and lack depth .

[@alyonajapan]

Berg 5:55 Durga 6:38 Shiva 8:10 Shiva 10:43

[@jasonlloyd33]

Thank you Alyona!

[@abhimalavalli]

Thanks for the video, there is major flaw with Durga 3 I'm sure you all agree with me, the flaw is that it will empty your pocket, haha. Durga is perfect for me, I want to get rid of all other mpcs I have, I don't dislike the other ones, but Durga is way too good and perfect for me. I tried the Shiva too, it is good if playing with others and it's strength is definitely in the upper registers. I find Durga to be a better all rounder and easier to control. Your review reflects perfectly with the real life experience, thanks Jason.

[@YeungLorentz]

good video! thank you, by the way, it think it will make this comparison better if you put berg larsen 105/2 on the title. is it a duck bill? a vintage?

[@jasonlloyd33]

Cool thanks great suggestion

[@siliconvalleytechlaw]

Huge difference, love the Durga. Thanks for sharing Jason - really helpful to hear the difference. Great playing too!

[@BrianWansink]

Thanks for being so thorough. It was also very smart to compare things to your Berg-Larsen since that gives us the best benchmark. I'm going to order a Durga *8. Great sound and technique. You are very worthy of that wonderful horn.

[@jasonlloyd33]

Thank you so much Brian! Enjoy your new Durga

[@birdy808]

Which Berg were you comparing? They’re very loud and sound good with any style of music other than classical. Maybe you need a smaller tip and chamber.

[@gangofgreenhorns2672]

There is a store, Woodsy's Music in Kent, Ohio that keeps a huge stock of mouthpieces and horns, if you ever wanted to go and try a bunch out.

[@OnePersonUnique]

But they don't have many (any) Theo Wannes anymore.

[@seigas]

Great video! What kind of Berg is that? Thanks!

[@JunkMailBoxStuff]

Mariano San Roman At 0:38 --- Berg Larsen 105/2 M

[@seigas]

Oh, sorry! :) Thanks!

[@JunkMailBoxStuff]

Mariano San Roman All good, man. Just wanted you to know what it was. It's a crazy quest (sax set-ups, ...) until you realize you can only do so much and have to love the sound YOU create and appreciate your own tonal pallet. We've all been there. I'm set on tenor. Still not 100% on my alto sound, personally .... the quest continues.

[@seigas]

Tell me about it!!! Thanks again!

[@AlexVolkhin13]

Berg sms or m?

[@hardrockmetalsax]

Great sound and technique brother! Beatiuful video!

[@1dotele]

key leaves for the sticky G#

[@calabresito]

I have a shiva destroyer 7*. I like very much. Its a bomb. Y use the shiva in the street or in the group!!!

[@bluessax5089]

Key Leaves with keep that G# from sticking 👍🏽. Great stuff man

[@THESAMMUSIC]

Hi May I ask the : ０９：５８ Look inside the chamber , is this one Durga 3 Metal Tenor Mouthpiece ? I see very different from Theo wanne's Web site, would like to know more about Durga 1 ~ 3 generation Thanks lot

[@jasonlloyd33]

Hi Samian Lu The model being shown at 9:58 is not the Durga 3 it is a brighter model called Shiva the Destroyer.

[@jasonlloyd33]

samian lu the look inside is for the Shiva the Destroyer

[@derekroutledge4583]

Hi Jason Great video. I have tried the DUGRA and did have chipping when I went high. I use a Bert 120/2 and love it but i did notice that the DUGRA did have more projection. I was able to take the DUGRA back (Really liked it and was reluctant to do so) and they are getting me a Gaia 2 and said it would be more to my liking being a bit darker yet edgy. I still like your sound on the Bert but as I said the Theo Wanne seems stronger.

[@johnbuzzmoyer8479]

That's my brother... if you have any chance to see him play, Do it!

[@vincentgaglio5106]

Awesome I play ALTO. I have the Durga 3 Metal. And the Durga 3 HR. love them. I hear there is a new ALTO Shiva 2! ?????

[@bam023]

Ethan Mohney theowanne.com/product/shiva-2-alto-mouthpiece-2/

[@РафаэлаХендрикс]

Wowww, the difference in sound!

[@seanwintersax]

The berg definitely sounds better.

[@franlobatoruiz4289]

It,s a sound very rocker.

[@spontaneousgroovincombusti2902]

Berg +1. It’s WAH-nee! Love the Slant Sig for tenor. Love the Gaia2 for alto. The Gaia, Durga, and Shiva tenor I did not like at all. I think Theo is great, but they didn’t work for me.

[@TheMusicalEvents]

Berg Larson for me ...

[@andrea22213]

Nice video, thanks.

[@bsharp6856]

The Berg may sound better than the Durga but the Shiva has it all. Might depend on what music you are playing. If you are playing a jazz style earlier than the mid-60's or maybe smooth jazz, the Berg Larsen might be the way to go. But anything from 50's rockabilly to R&B, Funk, Rock and Blues, the Shiva is the better choice. My Antigua Pro-One horns have a device which keeps the G# from sticking. (disclaimer I play Jumbo Java and Shiva mouthpieces though I prefer the blue ebonite over metal).

[@JunkMailBoxStuff]

Nice review. I like the Berg. I think you should have given it a little more 🎷 playing & 🔍📢📣🔎 sampling time, but I get it .... the Theo Wanne (Wah-nEE) pieces are the new toys. Of the two T.W. pieces, I prefer the way you sounded on the Durga 3. Really versatile. 🎥 Video Tip: be careful of your bright window back lighting. It can be distracting and you had good content.👍

[@jasonlloyd33]

Thank you very much , these thoughts are very helpful!

[@garybarnhill2541]

I absolutely love the Gaia, the darker of the pack, ...so easy to play, gets a great modern tone, but you can mellow if wanted....never go back...

[@jimritter2187]

Nice job, I eliminated my sticking G# key buy purchasing a sax key prop from key leaves.com for my Mark VI.

[@GardensoftheAncientsHerbal]

Not a fan of the theo wanne. always to many shrills the gaia soprano i just want to get rid of but no will buy....

[@bigsaxoholic99]

Nate Shiz Do you try different reeds with it? When I switched to the Gaia on tenor , I ended up switching reeds and it helped a lot. What size is or was the piece?

[@anonymousguy7723]

Nate Shiz Wrong again...!! Theo wanne mouthpieces go for money on eBay. When you change your mouthpiece, your supposed to find a reed that will work with it. This is common knowledge that a novice player would know. I personally own 2 of his mouthpieces and I’m extremely satisfied. Before you badmouth a product, do your research , simply ask a real musician, or call up Theo Wanne himself and he would help you...