Competition Failure

[@psychopiano]

I feel his pain. Even if you've learnt a piece thoroughly and perfectly, under pressure you make one mistake and you can just crack. Repeat the same mistake over and over for no apparent reason. It's a mental thing, one that concert pianists have to conquer.

[@prototypeinheritance515]

he had a memory slip

[@guscox9651]

@@prototypeinheritance515 no it's not memory that is like the easiest bit to memorize ever

[@jarjuicemachine]

@@guscox9651 fingering memory slip

[@ok-sx7uo]

Gus Cox It doesn’t matter, under pressure you can absolutely forget the simplest details. It’s not new information. His thirds were clean, doesn’t seem to be a technical problem more than him losing nerve.

[@opticalmixing23]

You are correct in your analysis. It is very difficult to overcome failure once you are aware of it. This is why many coaches tell you to you, *you better sit this one out for a bit*

[@Gman6755]

I am sure he played it a thousand times perfectly in practice. The pressure of the performance can be brutal. No doubt that was a very bad moment for him.

[@viniciuspessoa3872]

"Competitions are for horses, not artists." Bartok

[@sven-sandershestakov3294]

Abad Briman Then that passion is for all the WRONG reasons. Music is not about competing with others. You aren't a true musician when the only thing that keeps you motivated is preparation for a competition... you're a machine then! Competitions are for selecting the best performers, yes. And those are always the ones that have a true passion for music - not a fake one, propelled by the drive to compete.

[@iko5698]

For lots of people competitions are stepping stones though, especially if they want to make a name for themselves

[@aurorias5312]

The sad thing is that in **order** to make a name for oneself, it is almost necessary to go to a competition and win like first place. If not, no one will know your name, no one will accept you to perform; it is truly sad.

[@u.v.s.5583]

Bartok was terribly wrong about this. Horses are not for competitions, horses are to be horses.

[@mpianod9319]

Is it bad that I am a horse and an artist.

[@GreerFried]

I messed up horribly, like this, doing a Chopin Étude during a competition. During the performance, I actually messed up in the same spot as when somebody interrupted my final practice session, a spot where I had never messed up.

[@zerenli2071]

Greer Fried we all can understand, all these pressure

[@lczq6737]

Which etude?

[@alfredyan1906]

Hi greer

[@michaeltraub3614]

@@lczq6737 opus 25 g sharp minor

[@herobrine1847]

@@michaeltraub3614 how do you know

[@prometheus23c]

This is probably one of the most embarrassing and painful memories that this guy has. And yet here we all are... sharing it, liking it and leaving clever comments. I really hope that when all of you go through a horrible experience there is someone there with a video camera ready to record and share with the world.

[@joshallen5399]

Then why are you watching this? The title of the video is "Competition Failure." You didn't assume that this was going to suck for someone? Hahaha you're an idiot

[@yahyamhirsi]

One should take even such bad experiences as an opportunity to learn more, because practicing the Piano at home is so much different than performing in public... I remember my first time to perform I played the famous Rondo Allegro from Beethoven's Sonata Pathetique, and guess what? I had to repeat the upbeat twice or more until I could continue because I was rushing from the first few notes because of stage fright and it looked really awkward, I can still remember the voice of kids laughing at me... but once I felt the proper tempo and started, I gave my best rendition of that piece, just because I was confident enough to do it... I remember everyone was impressed how I could got over the stage fright in a few seconds, and I learnt a lot of things from that experience though I really had a tough time to start...

[@Wibgloria]

Being accepted into the Tchaik or Chopin means that you've proven time and time again that you're able to play all the Chopin Etudes like cutting through butter. The guys hands were probably frozen from the weather outside, either that or he was completely mentally unprepared for whatever reasons. For all we know he could have just found out some dreadful news rendering him completely unable to even function let alone perform such demanding and passionate works under such focused and competitive pressure. Really, this should never have been allowed to be released to the public media.

[@karlakor]

As if the pressure of public performance were not stressful enough, the pianist now knows that there are undoubtedly people int he audience who are videotaping, or at least audio taping, the performance, and that every note will be immortalized for further scrutiny. I detest the fact that some of my worst moments on the stage are made permanent by video recordings that I did not authorize.

[@gdkabsbdkwkwm4187]

It is so sad because this man has been preparing 15years for this competition. It is one of the most difficult etude in the world. He is great virtuoso but stress of competition....

[@zhujunese]

I hope that young pianist is still confident and talented today.

[@HoangPham-ii4fj]

Do you know who he is?

[@The101Pianist]

Not young anymore! haha :)

[@YoBoof]

@Son Nguyen who is he?

[@fluffydk]

He looks like yundi

[@geuros]

@@fluffydk looks chinese, yeah, but Yundi himself was 4yo back then :D

[@neweraofthechambermusic3699]

Actually, the jury member told him: "Just play Rachmaninov", letting him know that he could go on and show his skills in the other piece!

[@TJMalana]

From my experience as a pianist its so different when you are playing in front of a crowd. Its alot of peer pressure.

[@jenniferbenson7782]

Not many peers are in this audience! Most of the people in the audience aren't even pianists...just music enthusiasts.

[@Highinsight7]

Jennifer Benson The judges... and Russians... know classical music very well...

[@jenniferbenson7782]

MrLisztian What's your point?

[@Highinsight7]

Jennifer Benson That... there ARE a LOT of peers in the audience... Russians know classical music... Internationally recognized Piano teachers in the audience... Concert Pianists in the audience... these performances were internationally broadcast... SO... there's all of that... The judges are all internationally recognized artists... (AND... this was years ago in the 80s... and it's STILL has popularity...)

[@jenniferbenson7782]

Again, I ask "SO WHAT???" That Russians know classical music is irrelevant to my saying there aren't many "peers" in the audience. Piano teachers are not "peers" of the contestants. Judges are not "peers" of the contestants. As far as the international broadcast, that's something different. When you write "in front of a crowd," that means the people who are physically there in the seats in front of the performers - not listening in on radio, internet, etc. The point that this was done in the 80s and it "STILL" has popularity is also irrelevant to who comprises this "crowd." Basically, you're providing info that really has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Anyway, have a great day!

A piano student's most feared moment... That's why I switched to Composition.

[@florianroeseler2404]

Where can one listen to your compositions?

[@Mat_P]

Kinda related xD

[@loveispatient0808]

I stuck to it and by God’s grace was able to perform my graduating recital!🙏✝️

[@leslietolson]

Same

[@rothschildianum]

Good move, performing is not for weak soul! It is very stressful if one makes money from performing.

[@ledoaihuy]

For now, He is a Piano teacher/Pianist in Vietnam. I often listen to him play Piano and he always give me some very useful lesson. In my opinion, his sound is very beautiful....!!!

[@HoangPham-ii4fj]

Do you know who he is?

[@Anne24499]

Huy Lê Đoài thiệt á hả ?

[@lyolevrich]

I remember this moment:I am happy to know that his life is fine! Whoever watches this video do it with a lot of respect (!) and think about how difficult could be to perform and remember the he fragility of all of us!!

[@cimbrito]

@Schuyler Bacn Yeah by searching up his name he appears to be always wearing glasses whereas in this video he isn't.

[@donwong3577]

@@_TranGiaBao_A-zy8gh lmao that is NOT dang thai son

[@TheMusicPinkLover911]

...and this is why I hate competitions...

[@VictorWilliams12]

Elise Xuereb "Competitions are for horses, not artists." -Bela Bartok

[@gcg8187]

Why? Music is about playing it in public. If you keep stopping at 10 seconds it's no one else's fault. You dont want to go to a recital where someone keeps messing up do you? Lol

[@Awairaz]

@@gcg8187 I'm telling you that playing in a compeition is way different from playing in a recital. In a competition you are being judged and in a recital it's mainly for enjoyment. I personally dislike competitions because I dont believe in competing against one another. It's always never what you're qualified or not, it is always wether you are better than this person or not

[@amultitaskingperson]

@@Awairaz i agree i always score really high in normal exams but i keep messing up in competitive ones

[@clarkebynum3683]

Dr.Sparrow. This wasn't just a memory slip. This particular etude is just insanely difficult. Thirds at that speed are impossible unless you practice just thirds for hours and hours a day. He did a great job. Nerves got to him and he slipped in memory and technique. It happens to everyone. He just had it happen at the worst possible time. Jazz piano and classical piano are very different as you should know. The progressions in each are very important but the techniques and overall structure and direction are very different. You can never prevent mistakes, only lower the chances.

[@grigorpetrov5848]

Clarke Bynum Having competed in numerous competitions over the years ago, I can tell you they are gut wrenchjng affairs requiring nerves of steel. Having said that, there ARE ways to keep from having complete break downs like what this poor guy experienced. still, anything can happen

[@hansdekorver7365]

It is not so difficult. But something happened in his mind.

[@dfkfgjfg]

@@hansdekorver7365 "It is not so difficult" is just plain wrong when this Étude and the C Major one are known as some of the most challenging pieces ever written in the traditional repertoire. Unless you've been exclusively playing thirds for 20 years since the age of 3, this piece is universally difficult

[@hansdekorver7365]

@@dfkfgjfg Did you play the piece yourself ?

[@dfkfgjfg]

@@hansdekorver7365 Yes I actually have. Otherwise I wouldn't make such a claim. I think it's harder than Prokofiev's 2nd Piano Concerto and Liszt's Transcendental Études combined. I would certainly play them in a competition rather than that monstrosity of an étude. Like many études of the time, it isn't difficult at a slow tempo but getting at Chopin's minim 69BPM is impossible even for most of the great pianists in the world

[@sorim1967]

And yet the few notes he did play demonstrated superb technique and musicianship that only a handful can achieve and probably none of the harsh critics here.

[@timothydestaandromax3124]

As pianist, playing in front of crowd somewhat just drives me crazy. I feel a great nervous while my hands trembling. Your brain can easily 'damaged' and forget all the things l. Your fingers stop playing, play the wrong notes, etc. It's human nature, back then people grows up with this "failure". On the following day, you'll get better, better and perfect.

[@pianista17mari]

been there, done that. poor guy. happens to the best of us. Etudes!!! argh!!!

[@agamaz5650]

ikr

[@rafaelgomez-ruiz8569]

I have played this Chopin Etude and I know how incredibly difficult it is. I can perfectly imagine how he is feeling. To play that etude in a competition is very risky and brave

[@hansdekorver7365]

It is not so hard.

[@pubgplayer1720]

@@hansdekorver7365 Don't bullshit. It's one of the hardest Chopin etudes out there. Unless you play it in front of the Tchaikovsky Competition jury, don't talk big.

[@hansdekorver7365]

@@pubgplayer1720 kzbin.info/www/bejne/n37Lnqitl66GpJY

[@Trooman20]

@@hansdekorver7365 your point?

[@nefarioustoast]

@@hansdekorver7365 everyone around you sees that you are an enormous asshat Hans de Korver you know that?

[@tripwall]

A lot of people don't understand how challenging classical piano really is. I think it's because the barriers to entry on piano are lower than in other instruments; a beginner can sit down and play something aurally pleasing, however simple, within a couple months. Try hoping for THAT on the violin. But at the higher levels in requires everything from having super good memory to being born with the right fingers, even the right body type (most famous concert pianists if you haven't noticed, are ectomorphic and have long fingers), and the right mental attitude to deal with the fact that audiences and judges can be very unforgiving with it relative to other instruments. No musical endeavor on earth is as demanding as competition level classical piano.

[@raine1319]

And, as one of my favorite animes of all time, "Your Lie In April" highlights, there's not room for personal expression or interpretation much with classical pieces. In fact, it's looked down on, which is intriguing as most arts are about resonance and personal expression (ie. drawing, painting, writing, acting) and worship improvisation. What a strange and frightening (yet awe-inspiring) beast classical piano competitions are; even classical piano in general.

[@agamaz5650]

you are actually right

[@scottw6704]

Finger length can be worked around. My fingers are average and I still play Rachmaninoff (not much Liszt though). There's always a workaround.

[@du39104]

as a fellow pianist, the worst nightmares for us were always competition/public performance, I still have nightmares lingering, I supposed the successful ones probably born with a very strong mentality different than the rest of us. It matters not how many hours you prepare for your performance or rehearsals.

[@NicolasBontems]

du39104 yes you're right, some people it seems were just able to crack the code of overcoming nerves, not matter how much I play my Liszt etude, after months and months, i play in front of a public, and miss every 3 notes... it's hard

[@hoosas5998]

See that’s the crazy thing, a couple months ago I did a national piano audition thing, and I thought I messed up a lot, I had a few memory slips here and there and fudged up a couple notes here and there. And yet somehow I managed to get very close to a perfect score. Personally I think this guy should’ve just played through the mistake instead of giving up so soon.

[@debussy843]

I think some people have the mental ability to detach from reality altogether, and focus all their attention on one task. I also think it's more common in Asians. Yuja Wang has described this in interviews, she said she doesn't hear or see anything else around her. And although not piano, Tiger Woods has described the same thing. When young and and his prime he said he doesn't hear or notice the spectators at all and can completely focus. It's a rare mental ability that helps people excel at a given task.

[@michaelconti5787]

Music can be SUBJECTIVE. I remember seeing on KZbin, a video involving a Julliard Master Class where a student, Mackenzie Melemid, was being instructed by Robert Levin. At 25:00 minutes until 28:00 minutes in the video, the teacher talks about how interpreting the Bach piece being played a certain way involving ornamentation might offend the judges. I have a problem with that because who’s to say that one interpretation is better than another? Watching the video further, in my opinion, confirms the accusations being made that those competitions have judges who have students that enter them and win because their teacher is the judge. Mr. Levine playfully drops a hint that he’s a judge in one of the Bach competitions and tells his student, Mackenzie, what to do as far as ornamentation is concerned IF he enters it. Levine even stated that he said all of this to Mackenzie in his private lessons with Levine as well. Mr. Levine uses humor there, which might lead people to believe that he’s just joking, but there’s nothing to be interpreted a a joke when you’re telling your student that judges might sabotage your score just because of your interpretation. What Levine said should be taken literally. Composers do have dynamics and expression terms (pianissimo, forte, etc…) in their music. However, they leave no markings in certain passages which leaves that part of the music, in my opinion, up to the interpreter. It’s hard enough to accept losing when you’ve been factually beaten in competition. It’s another thing when you lose all because of something subjective. You do have to put in the work (3-4 hours a day) to make something of yourself. However, I have a serious problem with someone telling me to put in the work only to enter a competition and lose because of something subjective.

[@scottw6704]

The rules of Baroque music are not to be messed with. After the Classical era, subjectivity in interpretation was gradually allowed in but no no no, you can't just throw in your own personal ideas with Baroque. If it's not marked, then it progresses unchanged.

[@DavitMinasyan-rn3fv]

this 40 seconds were enough for me to understand how good of a pianist is this , his effortless delicate sound definitely makes up for the fail in performance

[@Metrallata]

Totally feel the way the guy felt. When you have to preform not infront of a crowd as the crowd doesn't matter unless you get nervous infront of others easily. But when being judged and interpreted by someone that's not a critique, but instead an analyzer of music. They know when you slip out of key for a half second and see you unprofessionally use incorrect playing techniques you've adapted.

[@Klawkwark]

I dislike using the word "wow". But it really is all I can say. Wow, not because he goofed, but more..."wow" because his piano sounded really nice - minus the tapping within the piano, of course - and I wished to hear more than just the 9 secs that he could muster.

[@southpark5555]

Anybody that is willing to go up on stage to play the piano in front of others gets a thumbs up, and my respect. Sounded great in what he played. Thumbs up.

[@jeffglanstein4489]

It is very embarrassing. The judges should have let him continue rather than suffer the public embarrassment of dismissal. I have no respect for one who publicly embarrasses another. He knows he made a mistake, we know he made a mistake, and the judges know so, too. So, let him not place in the competition, but there is no reason to let another person suffer such embarrassment.

[@ClarissaLovesLife]

Jeff Glanstein Jeff, sorry to refute your point, but as a musician myself, I think it's more embarrassing staying on stage under this situation (he wasn't just making a mistake, in fact he looked like he can't remember what's next... You can see from him stopping at the same point twice...If it's just simply a mistake, usually a musician will just continue as if nothing happens). The judge was not dismissing him but kind of giving him an excuse to exit the stage...Judges are not usually mean...This is a competition but not an exam, where some nice examiners will let candidate have a second try. At Tchaik Competition, people have high expectations on the contestants you know...

[@jeffglanstein4489]

Thank you for your response. The way you present the situation is much more palatable to my moral sense. Perhaps the article should not have been titled "failure," the connotation is negative. He did not win, that is for sure. He certainly is not a slouch, as anyone who reaches the level to compete is certainly an excellent musician. Actually, with only one winner we might say everyone else is a failure. Not so, though. They might have lost the competition but they are not failures. All the best to you and thank you again for your response, Jeff Glanstein

[@VictorWilliams12]

Clarissa Tan basically, it's the world's best pianists

[@Melchiorblade7]

+Jeff Glanstein They are only failures at winning the particular competition, nothing more or less

[@OogwayT]

The judges were actually being merciful and alerting him to the fact that, “you can go now”

[@lflagr]

0:32 So they have a camera trained on the water bottle just in case a judge decides to start tapping it?!?

[@u.v.s.5583]

The bottle of doom.

[@lalahohoable]

I am sorry for him! That is why I am against the competition, this guy seems to be an outstanding pianist....

[@Evert-Kramer]

I feel his pain. I had a memory lapse tonight in a performance. Afterwards everyone is telling you it doesn't matter and it happens, but yeah it really sucks.

[@Bochum96]

I guess, he could play it perfectly... But on stage you sometimes forget the whoel piece... I think, after leaving the stage, he remembered the whole piece.

[@ricardomijon9677]

you can tell he is a great player, regardless if he finished or not, I agree with some comments made below: Music competitions are basically pointless. Its all about the art

[@casenharlan4434]

People saying he’s bad but he made it to the Tchaikovsky piano competition so he’s at least better than 98% of the world

[@manuelbes]

+this piece is(looks) insanely hard, those thirds...

[@cosmicjazzer]

As a musician myself, I really feel for the guy and know that such things can happen to the very best. I very much agree that there is no merit in displaying this on youtube.

[@erinrametta1]

I’ve heard this is the hardest of Chopin’s 24 etudes. I never heard anyone attempt it in my studio yet heard people play all of the others

[@Nicdehouwer]

when you have to go full-on muscle memory, but then remember that fingers can't think

[@acactus2190]

quite the opposite actually, he probably overthought the piece because of nerves, impeding his muscle memory he developed

[@пейнтболмосквы]

At 0:29, the judge says "Ну сыграйте Рахманинова" (Ok, you better play Rachmaninov now) but the pianist feels so embarrassed (or he didn't hear or understand) that he leaves the stage.

[@u.v.s.5583]

To win or to die. There was no point in playing Rach after this.

[@Hervinbalfour]

I can empathize with you. I had been playing since I was three years old and I never had a memory lapse. Then when I was 17 I had my senior performance review and I totaly bombed it one piece. It was Chopin's Nocturne No. 8 and I suddenly got stuck. Even when I was learning it for some reason that piece just didn't stick. I remember feeling like such a failure to my teacher and mom. I went into a serious depression and pretty much stopped playing for many years. So I can relate.

[@scottw6704]

The problem with this particular Etude is that you end up memorizing the hand parts separately then together...then when you put them together, it is easy (in this piece) to get them out of sync, and there's no place to gather your thoughts and line them back up. (Maybe that's why Impressionistic music started where there was time to stop and think lol) In this case though it did look like he second-guessed his memory and once he started thinking, the muscle memory became less fluid and it just...stops. Poor kid.

[@NAETEMUSIC]

Imagine if Mozart or Beethoven had to be subjected to this while they were forming their artistic core……… I think there is a reason both their playing (and their music) was so free and uninhibited. They weren't competing with their peers, they interacted with them. It wasn't constant sitting in front of a soviet-style panel to be judged. Can you imagine either of them putting up with it?

[@Balkyzag]

Chopins Etudes are so extremely difficult. This guy is certainly capable of playing this piece. Its not a shame to fail on such a difficult composition.

[@Windycityduelingpianos]

It seems that competitions are harder because you’re not there to entertain. You’re not there to make people smile, or to possibly change their lives. You’re there to win. And “winning” is not what art is about.

[@fortnitegod6987]

The Thirds Etude is by far one of the most difficult piano studies in technicality. Chromatic thirds are super to master. It took me a couple years to get thsi piece right. I understand breaking under so much pressure to play such a difficult piece well.

[@hansdekorver7365]

It is not so difficult. He was under a kind of tension

[@OctoPlaysPiano]

@@hansdekorver7365 shut

[@AdrenalineLegends]

agreed, this one, op.25 no.6 and op.10 no.2 are by far the most difficult

[@Chic4rely]

Depends.. for me it wasnt that hard as 10-4 or 10-1

[@a23oj28]

⁠@@AdrenalineLegendsThis is op25 no 6...

[@f1shlace]

And yet, he is still considered not only one of the greatest Chopin artists but also one of the best pianists. We have all been there, maybe not playing in the Chopin competition but in a setting that was high stakes for us as this was for him. He remained humble and respectful. I have nothing for admiration for him. This means nothing in terms of his abilities for me, he is still absolutely phenomenal.

[@alexandraninaburchpiano]

Do you know his name? I would love to hear more of his performances

[@bakuto.1055]

I'm really sorry for the pianist, he seemed to have the technique right but his brain just couldn't process the stress.

[@MatthewMingLi]

Damn....my heart just stopped when he stops. This is the worst nightmare for any musicians! True music will only emerge when the performer enjoys it and has fun with it, and competitions are not fun in any way! Shit happens and life goes on...I wish him the best! Does anyone know the name of this guy?

[@MateuszMizioekx]

Etude g sharp minor Op. 25 No. 6 - Frederic Chopin.

[@JJTownley_Classical-Composer]

That had to hurt. Fails like that shatter a pianist's confidence so badly at times they give up entirely. But at a quarter million hits the video is an epic success. Sort of like driving past a pileup on the highway and slowing down to gawk at the carnage.

[@polka678]

I was doing a school performance once and the same thing happened to me - to this day just the memory of it haunts me and is why I haven’t tried performing since; I spend so much time learning all of my favourite pieces such as Scriabin etudes all for personal satisfaction now, to myself, in my bedroom.

[@jameshall401]

Aw poor guy, this just made me sad

[@thinhho93]

I'm glad if he is still playing the piano to this day, if I were him I'd go home, burn my piano and never touch a key again. I don't think I can ever recover from such incident.

[@BK-ve6qv]

"Just because your temporarily upset, don't do something permanently stupid." Be smart

[@milton3204]

+Son Nguyen What's his name?

[@evilmortyc137b4]

BK9 i just wanna kill myself

[@CommunistBearFighter]

@@milton3204 Ngô Ngọc Thành

[@davidschwartzguitar]

I feel so bad for this guy. It's frustrating having to work so hard on a piece only for it to fall apart during the only time it counts. This has happened to me before, and what I've learned is that you just have to keep going regardless of mistakes. It's better to finish a race crawling on your hands and knees than it is to give up.

[@fannymozzarella]

Happened to me, except, I remembered it but had a huge panic attack in the middle of the performance. I made a big obvious mistake and suddenly, i was panicking and I forgot where I was up to in the piece. It’s how I got disqualified. It was the biggest fail in my entire life, and that happened at a competition when I was 12 years old.

[@tedly10027]

although we are strangers here -- i can say from an "insiders" experience - as a classical musician -- that the "industry" is BRUTAL in its competitiveness. politics, whether an "authority" in power "likes" or dislikes, even as far as "personal" , even sexual approaches are involved towards young ambitious students. i have a friend (opera singer) who had a HELLISH time in a major school and only got chances she was denied before when she got out.now sings in europe..and did a Nobel Prize show.

[@fredericchopin4866]

Exactly as I intended

[@Chopin-Etudes-Cosplay]

Underrated comment 😂

[@ZKLofiTone]

you maniac

[@lanchanoinguyen2914]

he should have improvised from that false phrase and turn it into jazz piece

[@agamaz5650]

oh my god... one of the harderst etudes poor guy

[@noodlery7034]

I see you on every piano vid

[@augztovq]

It is a real shame, imagine how was the guy at the time. but Chopin Etudes are truly complicated

[@nickfealy1133]

Rather than lacking the technical capability to play this piece, it was most likely a memory slip caused by the extreme nervousness.

[@Someonece]

Yeah. Imagine how long he must've been practicing this piece, then... **blank**

[@pubgplayer1720]

I feel *so sorry*. I am crying with him. Poor guy. I know what happens when you forget on-stage.

[@drinkwater319]

There's a tutorial by someone called Paul Barton, he plays as if it's as easy as Old Macdonald's Farm. Dear me

[@noodlery7034]

No one cares

[@gartyqam]

@@noodlery7034 i do

[@PianoSama]

I don't think that's the problem here. He's playing on a stage and is probably nervous...

[@scottw6704]

Sure, online stuff...but that is a different world from performing in front of not only live people, but people whose job it is to critique and rank his ability to perform perfectly under pressure. Just about anyone can turn on a webcam and publish the finished product...after God knows how many "takes". I'd very much doubt if that tutorial was uploaded after he sat down once and recorded everything.

[@michaelconti5787]

Keep your head up brother. I have been performing in churches since the age of 12 and have had memory slips. It can happen.

[@giannottister]

I've never understood why one has to play from memory as a soloist, while in chamber music one does not. The instrument is the same.

[@scottw6704]

There would have to be someone to turn the pages, and having them onstage is really a distraction. Plus it shows you've achieved something more substantial if it's memorized and you're not just sitting there reading it.

[@dennisvillegas]

It's almost unbelievable that this could happen in such a high-level competition as the Tchaikovsky's.

[@hansdekorver7365]

It was not his day.

[@jorgegutierreztellez3663]

Yasko, Chopin competition...

[@Dominique632]

A memory lapse is the worst thing that can possibly happen to a musician during a performance. I feel for this guy, I never perform w/o the score. But I know with Long pieces it's not always possible

[@opticalmixing23]

Cn you blame him, this is one of the hardest Chopin etudes besides the opus 10 no 2

[@wobster109]

Ooof it sucks when that happens! Happened to me when I was making a recording for an application. I got stuck on a specific passage and I'd practice it between takes, and it would be fine, and then I'd get to that part on the next take and it would be stuck again. To this day I don't understand what makes our brains get like that. It's terrifying, once it's wrong, it's not going to go right until you walk away and reset.

[@jbw53191]

Just recently, I got lost in the weeds while performing and it was so shocking and surprising to me because it had never happened during that piece before.

[@E.Vecchini]

this is the most difficult study of Chopin in my opinion

[@lavatrex]

liszt: am i a joke to you

[@E.Vecchini]

@@lavatrex I don't like Listz, he was just an exhibitionist who wanted to show how virtuous he was but left out the beauty of the musical theme that Chopin always had

[@E.Vecchini]

@@lavatrex don't tell me that transcendental studies are beautiful because they are not at all, they are only virtuous but they don't sound good to the ear

[@jens2994]

I once played in a competition, played well, and got sent to the next round. However, after the first round, they arranged a concert featuring those that got a price. Obviously, I participated. The competition was just you and those that evaluate your performance, unlike the concertwhich was full of people. I messed up in the middle of a piece during the concert. Started over at the beginning of the passage... twice. I can relate to this. It's painful when you know you can play it perfectly, but under pressure, sometimes you just fall apart. Since then, I've never played in front of an audience of this size again (I'm not a professional nor participating in competitions). I prefer playing for myself more than for an audience. Maybe even only due to this happening to me.

[@Chanelle208]

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[@verdi1129]

I can never learn to like a video like this. I mean…seriously, what did he do to deserve this? Failure this time, and then would be criticized online for the rest of ‘eternity (even after his life? ) Unless the player agreed for this video to be posted otherwise I don’t buy what this video is trying to get across to us? It is easier to laugh at others before you look at your own drawbacks.

[@ryanhunter2231]

That sucks! Poor guy! That is probably one of the most difficult pieces of classical piano repertoire, though. He made it farther than I could.

[@mariadoloresvidalpianista3225]

This is sad I hope he is continuing with music!

[@carlosvogtpianista]

It's not a failure to try your best in such a high level competition. In my opinion, he is a winner for trying. Most part of aspiring pianists don't even try.

[@modelstatue]

Poor guy, that etude was going pretty well too...its one of the hardest etudes in my opinion.

[@AdrenalineLegends]

I agree, it's the second hardest, after op.10 no.2

[@aaronberns8485]

Proves that concert pianists are indeed real superhumans.

[@tomitstube]

ouch. this is why one should never stop. smile and make it look like you meant it to sound that way.

[@Thomas11611]

Nerves are so hard to conquer. I struggle with this a lot.

[@emgpiano1353]

“To play a wrong note is insignificant. To play without passion is inexcusable!” Ludwig Van Beethoven

[@ohmandamp]

I think that anyone who has competed in these musical competitions can fully empathize with him. No matter how advanced you get, if you don't use the proper memorizational technique, this can happen. It is mortifying.

[@hansdekorver7365]

He played under tension

[@runyanpiano]

The thing is- unless you regularly perform you are going to be mega nervous and stuff like this will happen where you mind completely blanks-something you'd done right 1000 times before becomes impossible due to nerves hijacking your body. Competitions are even worse, because then there are real stakes on the line

[@organboi]

you can see him wince when he realizes the left hand entered way too late. that was the problem

[@Highinsight7]

I remember seeing this on The video YEARS ago... This was the Competition where BERRY DOUGLAS... came in FIRST place... The Thirds etude is HORRIBLY difficult... You'd have to had to play it under lots of high pressured situations before bringing it to this kind of stage... NOT a good piece to ad to your program for the first time in a situation like this... his sound... was beautiful... to bad!

[@carlhopkinson]

I feel like he was rushing and his inner pulse was not established well...so he got out of sync and uncoordinated and had to stop when the gears started grinding against each other.

[@Highinsight7]

Carl Hopkinson Yup... think you're right... (been there... done that...LOL) learned my lesson!

[@loopymomy2532]

what competition was this? I really need to know who he is

[@Highinsight7]

@@loopymomy2532 Tchaikovsky 1985ish or 1986ish...

[@loopymomy2532]

@@Highinsight7isnt this piece chopin thouggh

[@RachelWei]

This is scary. I am a young pianist going to my first international competition in March and here I see this video that my teacher told me about. Hope this doesn't happen to me soon! (My solo debut is in three days as well!)

[@jezielknopf3852]

Your teacher told you to watch this?, three days before your competition?, what a dick

[@RachelWei]

​@@jezielknopf3852 I think her attempt was to get me to laugh and realize that I'm not alone but I don't think that it served the purpose...

[@RachelWei]

@@maliziosoeperverso1697 lol i didnt get anywhere in the solo round but I won runner up in the concerto round (which is 3rd place) but the competition was too broke to afford a third person playing with the orchestra so I didn’t get to play but that’s okay haha

[@Trooman20]

@@jezielknopf3852 glad to hear it went fine

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[@cdpiano27]

Well, I found out that in the 1994 Tchaikovsky Competition (8 years after this) there was a contestant named Robert Markham from the UK, who stopped after a few notes in the first, got up, looked at the picture of Tchaikovsky, and the judges allowed him to return a few minutes. This was in the first round. He was one of the finalists that year!!! So they did not tap the bottle then!

[@georgeantipov7870]

Thats weird . Do you have a video?

[@TheIcebarrage]

I hate this feeling that you practise so hard and then you just forget it all on stage. I feel so bad for him.. :( and then I bet he will go off stage and know completely how to play this.. Aww.

[@evening_sw]

fun fact: this piece is HARD

[@Trooman20]

Very hard

[@kironjone5784]

If you make 1 fingering mistake in this etude,you will mess up…

[@MusicDoLove]

Man, that judge was brutal. But it looks like KZbin has been even more brutal to the quality of the video, especially the audio. It seemed a thousand times better when I watched it a few months ago.

[@andrew190495]

I did this before in a concert, but I did not stop. I continued to try and play, even with wrong notes. And if I couldn't get my fingers to do it, I just skipped that part altogether. In the end I got a round of applause.

[@응-h2v]

아이고...악보를 까먹어서ㅜㅜ....안타깝네요

[@carmenxie4782]

10 2 and 25 6 those give me nightmares

[@anonymousQ45]

thats the hardest etude ive ever read when i first i heard it it didnt seem extraodinarily hard but i didnt realize it was in thirds til i read it. teachers should give lessons on how to stay calm during competition/recitals instead of saying 'concentrate on the music' that doesnt help

[@Murcielag0scuro]

Concentrating on the music does help, actually.

[@scottw6704]

@@Murcielag0scuro Wow, really??? lol

[@Murcielag0scuro]

@@scottw6704 For me at least

[@user-bz5vj5xm5l]

Its so so different playing in front of a crowd. I had to perform chopins nocturne op 15 in my school assembly- played perfect 100times before that. When it got to the real thing i messed up 10bar in. Completely shattered my confidence even till today i cant perform in front of people. Poor guy

[@Crimsxn_K1ra]

double thirds etude by Chopin. the hardest of them all. it can take more than 3 years to master the speed of thrilling the thirds properly (seemusic took him 6 years to master the piece itself)

[@delf4eg1]

Oh my god... This video reminds me childhood failures at competitions and concerts... Really scaring... Poor guy =(

[@bachkwt]

I felt very bad after I had watched this , he is probably very good but he was nervous , we should respect this man

[@pianoboyo]

It is a difficult etude to start that one..this one and op10/8 are unforgiving for different reasons but the first 14 bars of each are a sort of hurdle. the problem comes when you build that up in your mind - which i suspect is what happened hear..it just became too difficult psycologically for him to get into the piece.

[@emmyhershberger8845]

the fact i heard people laughing at him disgusts me

[@LivingForce]

Couldn't agree more, I tend to start off with something light to ease the nerves for me... It's a mind game....

[@sixkatz]

He had a memory slip. After the second try, the judges informed him with a glass tinkle that they had heard enough.

[@joeykremple]

Same thing happened to me when I was playing Fur Elise as an encore at the inaugural Chopin competition in Krakow 1970

[@scottw6704]

LMAO!!!!