Competitive Pokemon That Are BETTER Than Their Evolutions

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@AdmiralBobbery123
@AdmiralBobbery123 11 ай бұрын
Now do a video on evolved pokemon that are better than their pre evolutions- please cover every example.
@TundraRage
@TundraRage 11 ай бұрын
*Thousands of pokemon*
@ShinyRaequaza
@ShinyRaequaza 11 ай бұрын
Ah, yes! A 6 day video
@pixelpiekser
@pixelpiekser 11 ай бұрын
​@@TundraRageThere is only like 600 Pokemon with a Prevolution
@outtaideas849
@outtaideas849 11 ай бұрын
​@@pixelpiekser including NFEs?
@user-fm6no9el3f
@user-fm6no9el3f 11 ай бұрын
I doubt that't even go past 1 minute, so few examples smh.
@doomgirl5341
@doomgirl5341 11 ай бұрын
I lost it at "It has access to protect" Truly shows how big the movepool of the clefa line is
@MoxieBoosted
@MoxieBoosted 11 ай бұрын
Regigigas in shambles
@skeetermania3202
@skeetermania3202 11 ай бұрын
@@MoxieBoosted Until Gen 8, at least.
@beanslinger2
@beanslinger2 10 ай бұрын
@@MoxieBoosted Doodle Grafaiai would like a word
@AllegoryGar
@AllegoryGar 2 ай бұрын
well, it gets extra use out of it considering its not skipping its turn since its ability is so good
@Fr4yDay
@Fr4yDay 11 ай бұрын
There’s also Galarian Mr Mime which outclasses Mr Rime, partly because of Eviolite access, but also because of its higher Speed
@manelneedsaname1773
@manelneedsaname1773 11 ай бұрын
I'm so mad rn
@Eroil
@Eroil 11 ай бұрын
The randbats menace... Rip in dexcut
@ashmander3465
@ashmander3465 11 ай бұрын
The delta is probably better the the standard one too
@lilythebluespheresfan2897
@lilythebluespheresfan2897 7 ай бұрын
Both are Untiered and trash lol
@eli2210
@eli2210 5 ай бұрын
Before watching the video the 3 I can think of are Chansey (obviously), Wartortle (spin version) and Dusclops
@CJ_Version1
@CJ_Version1 11 ай бұрын
"Dusclops violates the 4th Amendment" has me laughing so hard because of one of its abilities.
@Tine_of_Nice_Dreams
@Tine_of_Nice_Dreams 11 ай бұрын
That is very good but I misread the joke as violating the second amendment, presuming because man's got no arms
@agentblackbird9435
@agentblackbird9435 7 ай бұрын
I don’t get the joke. Ik the 4th amendment protects against unwarranted searches and requires warrants for searching
@Duckular
@Duckular 7 ай бұрын
@@agentblackbird9435It’s hidden ability is Frisk, which lets you know what items the enemy Pokémon are holding
@bonemasked3925
@bonemasked3925 Ай бұрын
@@Duckular that's actually a really clever joke
@pokemaster361
@pokemaster361 11 ай бұрын
There were times in 2014 when people used Rhydon instead of Rhyperior due to it being a Lightningrod abuser with better overall bulk and access to the QuakeSlide combo. And then there was that one time last year when someone got Top 64 at U.S. Nationals with Gigantamax Pikachu.
@Dr.J42
@Dr.J42 11 ай бұрын
God Koko was a menace.
@trainno.5806
@trainno.5806 9 ай бұрын
I don't think they were implying Raichu is worse.
@therealdualipa
@therealdualipa 4 ай бұрын
thing is that yeah they have niches but both rhyperior and raichu are miles better than their pre-evos
@MyNaymIsSnek1526
@MyNaymIsSnek1526 Ай бұрын
@@trainno.5806Yeah, it’sss jussst that the light ball exissstsss.
@Dragoon803
@Dragoon803 11 ай бұрын
I still remember when Eviolite was revealed. I knew Dusclops was about to get rediculous. My friends hated that thing lol. The wall they couldn't kill.
@notshockwavedemon7543
@notshockwavedemon7543 10 ай бұрын
Eviolite Dusclops is annoying as heck Eviolite G.Corsola too with Cursed Body
@Aurirang
@Aurirang Ай бұрын
The dusclops hate is real. :D
@soulofsomething6651
@soulofsomething6651 11 ай бұрын
Riolu: "You really think you can be a good evolution when you only have 90 base speed?" THINK LUCARIO, THINK Lucario: 😢
@cellP8
@cellP8 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@3Qz_
@3Qz_ 10 ай бұрын
Charjabug is actually pretty fkn underrated. It's the only pokemon in the entire series that has the Battery ability, which gives a life orb boost to your ally's special attacks just by being on the field. This ability stacks with the actual life orb, so if you're supporting your ally that is already holding a life orb, then you're basically doubling the power of their special attacks at that point. Not only does it benefit quite well with the eviolite, but it also has a variety of support moves like eerie impulse, electro web, and string shot. You could also run t wave, spark, or discharge to spread hax on the opposing side. Imo, Charjabug does a much better job as a support mon compared to Stonjourner when it comes to special attacking support since Power Spot only gives a 30% boost as opposed to Battery giving 50%. Stonjourner would be better suited on a physical team tbh
@foofootoo
@foofootoo 11 ай бұрын
Sneasel over Weavile for Inner Focus Coalossal activation is a pretty niche one too ps nice Riolu/Hatterene footage, I bet the source video is really awesome 😉
@randomcatname7792
@randomcatname7792 11 ай бұрын
They really are. IDR who they are but I remember enjoying their vids a lot
@bobzillathebabykicker2981
@bobzillathebabykicker2981 11 ай бұрын
There's a few others that are very nice. Eviolite Electabuzz while being worse at dealing dmg. Is a way better support w/ access to moves like discharge, helping hand, low kick, electroweb, brick break, etc. Not to mention it is surprisingly tanky. Able to eat disgusting amounts of dmg w/ max def and hp evs. And now w/ some of the mons in gen 9 we have Bisharp, Hisuian Qwilfish, and Basculin. (Basculin can actually run eviolite w/ very little defensive investment, allowing u to spec in just hp/attk and do some disgusting dmg w/ adaptability wave crashes)
@jessecorel1910
@jessecorel1910 11 ай бұрын
I think its also funny how garchomp's mega evolution is somehow worse than regular garchomp resulting in it getting 'banned by technicality' in most formats it would fit well in because it always has to start out as a better pokemon.
@hellhound74
@hellhound74 27 күн бұрын
This is because garchomp loses speed when it mega evolves, the speed loss is not worth the extra power, which chomp usually gains away via swords dance
@Nmoment-uv6jc
@Nmoment-uv6jc 11 ай бұрын
Murkrow when tornadus: not stocks
@tedscheett9420
@tedscheett9420 11 ай бұрын
Stonksn't
@randomcatname7792
@randomcatname7792 11 ай бұрын
But Tornadus can't Tailwind with Murkrow on field, so Murkrow wins the mirror tailwind setup wars
@Nmoment-uv6jc
@Nmoment-uv6jc 11 ай бұрын
@@randomcatname7792 use mental herb, like everyone is doing now.
@Nmoment-uv6jc
@Nmoment-uv6jc 11 ай бұрын
Besides tornadus can use tailwind, it affects to the fiel so it doesnt matter if the oponent is a dark type or not
@randomcatname7792
@randomcatname7792 11 ай бұрын
@@Nmoment-uv6jc you know what... I forgot about that lmfao. Thanks
@thunderhog45
@thunderhog45 11 ай бұрын
My little robotic duck Porygon 2 is one of my favorite pokemon ever. Bulky AF but also outputs decent damage. So fun to use
@vintagestealth8802
@vintagestealth8802 8 ай бұрын
Min speed, analytic is actually kinda underrated
@vo1ce147
@vo1ce147 8 ай бұрын
Guess what it also can one shoot landorus T
@ricardoludwig4787
@ricardoludwig4787 11 ай бұрын
Pikachu wasnt better than raichu, but they were considered to be about as good as each other in most metas, most notably 2016, the year Raichu won worlds. Pikachu can hit surprisingly hard with the light ball making it better at getting your big legendaries free turns, while raichu had better speed, was made out of cardboard instead of tissue paper, and could hold an item.
@cornonjacob
@cornonjacob 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's like the inverse of the examples here, the pre-evo is the offensive one while the fully evolved one is mainly support
@haters3327
@haters3327 10 ай бұрын
CARDBOARD AND TISSUE PAPER NAH
@PhantomAkira5
@PhantomAkira5 10 ай бұрын
He is !!!
@DanielPereira-ey9nt
@DanielPereira-ey9nt 2 ай бұрын
Don't know what you're on about, Raichu won worlds cause it was great rain support, Pikachu hitting hard with light bulb doesn't help when it's slower much more fragile. I wouldn't say Pikachu was even close to being as useful in VGC
@elliottmunger5154
@elliottmunger5154 11 ай бұрын
One small example was when Magmar had access to follow me and Eviolite. Not huge but Wolfe tried it... And i dont think Magmortar has ever been used at all.
@theflaminggroundon632
@theflaminggroundon632 9 ай бұрын
Gotta try picking that up again, haven't realized that duck monster was good until I tried a full team electabuzz
@MedicalBillz
@MedicalBillz 7 ай бұрын
Magmortar hits hard with fire blast buts thats basically all he does
@xacto1165
@xacto1165 11 ай бұрын
I like the part where he started with the "better because of eviolite" section and then every mon had a picture of eviolite on it until the end of the video!
@mecha5893
@mecha5893 9 ай бұрын
Trapinch actually had a tiny niche alongside Calyrex Ice since it was the only Pokémon that could trap with Arena Trap and Feint which meant you could prevent Incineroar switch ins and guarantee kills on Zacian under trick room
@OberonTeam
@OberonTeam 11 ай бұрын
Scyther vs scizor was debated (at least way back in gen 5/6 when i was super into competiive) because that speed drop on scizor was brutal, and sometimes you just wanted a bulkier pokemon, but this was in monotype where you werent always assured to find a steath rocker which is the major thing there
@victorlinares4137
@victorlinares4137 10 ай бұрын
Technician bullet punch makes ups for the slower speed
@Nick-Nasty
@Nick-Nasty Сағат бұрын
I always prefer Scyther over scisor
@Paulo-ro3ws
@Paulo-ro3ws 11 ай бұрын
Riolu was my GOAT in gen8. Coaching was so good and the fact that you could just copycat an enemy trick room made it so that Riolu teams were the most fun I had in gen8 by far.
@mrgodogodopaint
@mrgodogodopaint 11 ай бұрын
I dont remember how much tournament success it had but extreme evoboost teams were a thing in sun and moon, that team used both eevee and clefairy
@lasercraft32
@lasercraft32 5 ай бұрын
Didn't it involve using Extreme Evoboost and then switching with Baton Pass?
@carlocaruso961
@carlocaruso961 11 ай бұрын
I made a fun Riolu team that involved him prankster screeching at a target, and Palafin Hero immediately jet punching that same target. Both being priority, I could usually get a kill before they even moved
@chimpact
@chimpact 11 ай бұрын
In singles magneton and shelmet had niche tournament success in OU as well as all the pokemon you mentioned. Although not part of the same line sneasel-h might be better than weavile 😢
@adrianclamens6679
@adrianclamens6679 11 ай бұрын
I’ve never seen a Shelmet being used! What does it do?
@chimpact
@chimpact 11 ай бұрын
@@adrianclamens6679 It was a bulky ground resist with recovery and set up spikes.
@ronnycrawf2441
@ronnycrawf2441 11 ай бұрын
@@adrianclamens6679 shell armor for wicked blow and fighting resist made it one of the few mons who could actually take on Urshifu dark before it got banned. It wasn’t good but it could do that one job lmao
@krumplin8992
@krumplin8992 11 ай бұрын
Dmax pika might be an example. I remember it being used early on in gen 8 but I guess it fell off pretty hard. Doesn’t really count but Garchomp always outclassed mega-chomp in just about every format too
@Earthworm_Zim
@Earthworm_Zim 11 ай бұрын
Galarian Corsola comes to mind. Also now that Flutter Mane exists and makes Mismagius all but obsolete, Eviolite Misdreavus serves a different purpose. Still not great but probably better than Mismagius.
@TheKyubiisaan
@TheKyubiisaan 7 ай бұрын
Using Riolu in the restricted legend SWSH format was one of my favorite usages of a Pokémon, ever. I love the lucario line (I used to go by lucariodude on vizzed board) and seeing it get usage alongside *DIALGA* was insane.
@Smfsableye
@Smfsableye 10 ай бұрын
It might not outclass its evolution, but Eviolite Scyther was a force to be reckoned with in Gen 5. That Aerial Ace hit like a truck.
@theflaminggroundon632
@theflaminggroundon632 9 ай бұрын
Scyther, magmar, and electabuzz honestly sounds pretty good
@leftysheppey
@leftysheppey 8 ай бұрын
​@@theflaminggroundon632see also: gen 1 competitive Pokémon TCG
@GarrettStelly
@GarrettStelly 11 ай бұрын
I never knew about copycat calling the original version of a max move. That's a nice tech. I wonder what other kind of tricks you could do with negative priority moves like roar
@lintymon6940
@lintymon6940 11 ай бұрын
Killer vid! Thanks for using one of my clips! Love to see Giga at 2:58 too
@padeshaies
@padeshaies 11 ай бұрын
Great video Marcus! 🎉 I hope to see more like this in the future!
@PKshockwave
@PKshockwave 11 ай бұрын
This was great, Marcos. Loved the silly goosery of this one.
@MousaThe14
@MousaThe14 11 ай бұрын
Okay yeah I was familiar with most of these but there was no way I ever saw Riolu coming other than with the thumbnail but it makes sense.
@liveoptimistic
@liveoptimistic 11 ай бұрын
LOVE this edited discussion content!! Keep it coming!
@sirmoony5633
@sirmoony5633 10 ай бұрын
Rhydon can also be a very good physical tank when holding an Eviolite. For example, with it's base 120 Defense, it can get boosted up to 170 while it's 45 Special Defense would go up to 68. And thanks to Sandstorm's buff that allows all Rock Pokemon to get a 50% Special Defense boost in the sandstorm, then Rhydon's Special Defense would go even up to around 101 on top of the Eviolite.
@Malam_NightYoru
@Malam_NightYoru 8 ай бұрын
i think the problem with rhydon is typing
@sirmoony5633
@sirmoony5633 8 ай бұрын
@@Malam_NightYoru Well at least it doesn't have a Steel/Rock combination with 4x weakness to Fighting and Ground. LMAO
@christianloder8127
@christianloder8127 7 ай бұрын
@@sirmoony5633 But instead 4x weakness to water and grass
@sirmoony5633
@sirmoony5633 7 ай бұрын
@@christianloder8127 Yeah, that's the point of the Ground/Rock typing. If it was given a Rock/Steel typing like Aggron or Probopass, then it would have been 4x weak to Fighting and Ground, which are super common attacking types in the game.
@nomorealone9158
@nomorealone9158 3 ай бұрын
I'd rather be weak to fighting and ground since most if those types are easy to hack. Meanwhile being weak to water means lots of crazy ass mons almost unbeatable
@hermes6683
@hermes6683 11 ай бұрын
This was some legit content Marcos! The edits were great
@ruifernandes8826
@ruifernandes8826 11 ай бұрын
Good content brother, and great video editing!
@pokatana4130
@pokatana4130 11 ай бұрын
Love these types of vids. Keep it up.
@schmooder3
@schmooder3 11 ай бұрын
This is a great vid amazing job!
@Marcelobernart
@Marcelobernart 11 ай бұрын
More videos like this man, very nice dude!
@GlobalPokemonSociety
@GlobalPokemonSociety 11 ай бұрын
Great video 👍 loved the edits
@ZeBanded
@ZeBanded 11 ай бұрын
nothing will ever beat jamie boyt and his cottenee, i cant wait to use her when DLC 2 drops
@violet_broregarde
@violet_broregarde 11 ай бұрын
This is a cool topic, thanks for the video! Love it when Pokemon players make unexpected stuff work.
@jarotdacarot
@jarotdacarot 11 ай бұрын
Great video!
@thomaslangford5039
@thomaslangford5039 11 ай бұрын
Not bad also a fun fact curse ivysaur did the same with eviolit vs gmax venusaur and was able to beat itb100 percent of the time. Loved the challenge and then they realize it was a God tier underdog.
@MrIronJustice
@MrIronJustice 11 ай бұрын
A little known fact is that Poliwhirl actually has higher speed than either of its evolved forms. One could probably come up with some kind of gimmicky status or utility based set using Poliwhirl and Eviolite. It also benefits from Swift Swim, which Toad lacks. Poliwrath's fighting type can be seen as more of a defensive liability than anything else. But TBH probs not worth it.
@Saltyape0
@Saltyape0 11 ай бұрын
Loved the use of Dorkly at the beginning lol
@sthui2866
@sthui2866 11 ай бұрын
"one shots landorus t" needs to say as a running joke
@MrIronJustice
@MrIronJustice 11 ай бұрын
Electabuzz can be used over Electavire. It has higher speed and the same special attack. With Eviolite, its defensive stats far eclipse its evolution. Since Electric type (in some generations more than others) tends to have better special attacks, Electavire's physical preference can be seen as sub-opimal.
@theflaminggroundon632
@theflaminggroundon632 9 ай бұрын
I remember trying to make a team of electabuzzes, but man they were so much better than the team of Electorbs or how ya spell em
@Tine_of_Nice_Dreams
@Tine_of_Nice_Dreams 11 ай бұрын
Honestly dude even when i already know what you're teaching i watch because you have the best memes
@plazmurr
@plazmurr 11 ай бұрын
Dusknoir needs a good ghost move to outclass clops, maybe rage fist 🥺
@joshuakim5240
@joshuakim5240 5 ай бұрын
it's kind of weird how the original punch ghost pokemon line has neither Iron Fist nor Rage Fist.
@legithuman5486
@legithuman5486 11 ай бұрын
thumbnail is straight fire
@chrismaystar3014
@chrismaystar3014 4 ай бұрын
I tried to run a Prankster Whimsicott with Sandaconda, but my strategy was still limited by my imagination. If I had known Copycat-Trick Room was a thing (let alone a thing on a Sandstorm-viable type), I'd have been a nuisance online.
@Dekaar
@Dekaar 11 ай бұрын
Just in case this went down in editing and scripting .. but you forgot the mention that Porygon 2 oneshots Landorus T ... just saying
@goGothitaLOL
@goGothitaLOL 11 ай бұрын
Dusknoir really needs a HP boost (switch its 65 Sp. Atk with its 45 HP), Strength Sap (never give it to Clops), and Drain Punch Maybe take 10 more off of its Sp. Atk and move it to its Atk?
@willkershisnik5893
@willkershisnik5893 11 ай бұрын
Why? Not every Pokémon needs to be good and dusclops being good makes it have one Pokémon in its family that’s viable
@randomcatname7792
@randomcatname7792 11 ай бұрын
Dusknoir would be extremely good with just small buffs
@willkershisnik5893
@willkershisnik5893 11 ай бұрын
@@randomcatname7792 no he wouldn’t. Ghost type has too much competition and physical ghosts aren’t good in the first place
@goGothitaLOL
@goGothitaLOL 11 ай бұрын
@@willkershisnik5893 unless you’re name is Annihilape Aegislash and Dragapult are mixed attackers, A-Marowak is exclusive to TR teams and Ceruledge is…….there At least the bad ones have 1 STAB move that none of Aegislash, Dragapult, Basculegion, Ceruledge (even if mid), and Annihilape don’t, and that STAB is Poltergeist (they’re still bad, even with the STAB, but that’s besides the point) Mimikyu doesn’t get Poltergeist either GF was scared it would make it broken
@RocketPropelledMexican
@RocketPropelledMexican 11 ай бұрын
Imagine if Clefable kept friend guard
@theflaminggroundon632
@theflaminggroundon632 9 ай бұрын
Would be a bit frightening
@GDKsan
@GDKsan 11 ай бұрын
no need to wait for whimsicott, murkrow is already outcassed by tornadus
@randomcatname7792
@randomcatname7792 11 ай бұрын
That's not entirely true, Murkrow actually still has advantages over him
@frozenherolp9077
@frozenherolp9077 11 ай бұрын
@@randomcatname7792 It´s a Dark type, so you don´t have to worry about prankster taunt. What else?
@randomcatname7792
@randomcatname7792 11 ай бұрын
@@frozenherolp9077 focus sash Murkrow one shotting sweepers with foul play!
@GDKsan
@GDKsan 11 ай бұрын
@@rafaelmehret5952 haze is dead with dondozo
@unaimartinezmartinez4116
@unaimartinezmartinez4116 11 ай бұрын
Galarian Corsola would be for me the best example at the beginning of VGC of SWSH
@cornonjacob
@cornonjacob 11 ай бұрын
I didn't know it was good ever in VGC (that was just before I got into it at all), but I have used it in singles randbats where it's pretty annoying to deal with if you don't have a good counter
@NotAnElk
@NotAnElk 11 ай бұрын
Was good in singles too up until the dex opened up and everything got Knock Off back
@YoSaxon
@YoSaxon 11 ай бұрын
Great memes throughout 😂
@skarmory93
@skarmory93 27 күн бұрын
The Invincible thumbnail is brilliant btw
@bootortle
@bootortle 11 ай бұрын
There are some Pokémon I prefer to their evolutions, like Togetic, Dusclops, Porygon2, and many others
@ieetaspergers586
@ieetaspergers586 9 ай бұрын
Great video
@Chronoz-1
@Chronoz-1 10 ай бұрын
That Porygon 2 bit had me laughing like crazy
@lucaa2375
@lucaa2375 11 ай бұрын
Good quality vid ❤
@fictionvstheuniverse5418
@fictionvstheuniverse5418 10 ай бұрын
didnt expect riolu, mostly i just wondered about dusclops because i saw wolf glick use it allll the time and i always wondered why it could be better then its evolution
@raheidkeif5689
@raheidkeif5689 2 ай бұрын
That spelling error at the end tho on the upper left hand corner. Im forever gonna call pikachu paichu now. I love it
@katrinaf248
@katrinaf248 29 күн бұрын
I made it top 300 in a competitive online tournament (first and only I ever joined) during sword and shield with coaching riolu and azumarill with assault vest. With riolu, azumarill became an absolute menace and tank, especially with dynamax.
@cethxceth4751
@cethxceth4751 11 ай бұрын
I just wanna say bro thanks for this because I plan on catching some of these regulation d competitors off balance with my hisuian qwilfish
@RosiePosie-el3lj
@RosiePosie-el3lj 5 ай бұрын
I know Smogon isn't as relevant, but *sometimes* eviolite Golbat sees usage in NU.
@flareblitz198
@flareblitz198 11 күн бұрын
That was a dorkly clip at the beginning from a video called "Pokémon that hate their evolutions" or something like that
@mr.s.i6642
@mr.s.i6642 10 ай бұрын
I Don't play vgc so I didn’t knew about murkrow & riolu but I knew about the other three & clefairy as well because I played a bit vgc in gen7.
@vinceroque2934
@vinceroque2934 5 ай бұрын
I was running arrokuda to partner with coalossal since it has access to propeller tail which allows me to hit coalossal with aqua jet to proc steam engine and weakness policy without being affected by storm drain or redirecting moves. Using arrokuda allows makes me damage coalossal less and the stat gain is worth wasting an entire pokemon slot as long as you can play around haze. You can even buff coalossal further since arrokuda line learns accupressure.
@aadesh7130
@aadesh7130 9 ай бұрын
cottene and haunter are also amazing pokemons with eviolite cause cottene has access to prankster and haunter has levitate which makes it immune to ground moves
@snoopdalfdergrune8684
@snoopdalfdergrune8684 11 ай бұрын
Dusclops is actually very strong, it’s pretty bulky abd in combination with pain splint it stays on the battlefield forever. It can cripple most physical threats with will-o-whisp and with i think 85 atk and stab hex it also deals very decent damage.
@prysthaea7735
@prysthaea7735 11 ай бұрын
Due to their status as mascots of the franchise, Pikachu (as you hinted at the end) and Eevee both have some pretty incredible options not given to their evolutions. Light Ball doubles Pikachu's attacking stats blowing Raichu out of the water offensively, and Eevee was given one of the strongest Z moves in the game in Extreme Eevoboost which grants a +2 stat boost to every stat without downside (which Eevee can then hand off to a more powerful Pokemon with Baton Pass). I can't speak to VGC, but in Smogon while their abysmal bulk mostly relegates them both to gimmick status, Eevoboost Baton Pass has seen some success in the Anything Goes tier (and was strong enough to be banned outside of it)
@lilgoat6588
@lilgoat6588 11 ай бұрын
TR HO with stak pre restricted or caly ice post restricted was my FAVORITE team to run all gen 8. I love riolu and i hope one day he can shine just like how he used to.
@vbarreiro
@vbarreiro 11 ай бұрын
I’m calling it, Hisui Quilfish will be a stall beast. With eviolite it’s got wild defenses, can use stockpile to get even higher, and then gets rest. You reduce opponents’ attack, either enhancing your tankiness of forcing a swap turn loss, you toxic, set up your defenses a bit, rest, then keep doing that as you become increasingly indestructible. It will get to the point that you can take the two turns of rest for free since the opponent can’t KO you, then toxic the rest of the game.
@male_maid5951
@male_maid5951 11 ай бұрын
haze and clearsmog say HI
@mcsmileycorp
@mcsmileycorp 11 ай бұрын
In singles maybe, for doubles quilfish has the toxapex problem, other than poison things and set up it doesn't really do anything, you can just ignore it and focus down its partners then deal with the qwilfish when everything else is dead.
@joaopedroathayde757
@joaopedroathayde757 9 ай бұрын
Charjabug on Weedletweenedle's Round team is one case of the pre-evolved form being more useful (in this instance as a Trick Room Round set up strat)
@MrIronJustice
@MrIronJustice 11 ай бұрын
Magneton has a little more speed than Magnezone, and with Eviolite its far bulkier. In the role of a magnet-pull trapper, that extra speed might be essential for letting Magneton outspeed some of the steel types it traps (including its evolution). Magneton can outspeed Skarmory much more reliably and OHKO it.
@tvb5509
@tvb5509 Ай бұрын
As a baby Pokémon enthusiast, I see Riolu's strat as an absolute win.
@deltaray3012
@deltaray3012 9 ай бұрын
I feel a mon that not necessarily outclasses it's evolution, but more so like Porygon 2 it has a different roll, is the regional form of Corsola. Having acces to an evolution of course means it can run Eviolite, plus it has the ability to run Will-O-Wisp for burning, Strength Sap for healing, Curse for damage, and Whirlpool for trapping. Also having Cursed Body can be devastating to a Choice'd mon if it goes off when using Whirlpool
@ashmander3465
@ashmander3465 11 ай бұрын
Interesting video
@e.y.s.1980
@e.y.s.1980 11 ай бұрын
that Riolu drop made my spine tingle a little bit. not so heavy anymore with competitive but dayum.
@bartvansliedregt5482
@bartvansliedregt5482 11 ай бұрын
Amazing thumbnail!
@GuiasMaurelChile
@GuiasMaurelChile 6 ай бұрын
I don't know if it is better, but Eviolite Charjabug is one of my favs. And the fact that you can run it with Vikavolt is wholesome
@NunleftVTw
@NunleftVTw 11 ай бұрын
I believe Magmar was used in one specific instance in gen 5, but the set wasn't legal in future generations
@theflaminggroundon632
@theflaminggroundon632 9 ай бұрын
Kinda wish the move snucked into its move pool though
@chrispokemon5990
@chrispokemon5990 10 ай бұрын
Nice video
@SirStanleytheStumbler
@SirStanleytheStumbler 11 ай бұрын
Qwilfish, Stantler, and Ursaring might get there with their new Hisulian evolutions being available. Also Rhydon might have been there at one point.
@MoxieBoosted
@MoxieBoosted 11 ай бұрын
The only one here I could actually see being better is qwilfish
@SirStanleytheStumbler
@SirStanleytheStumbler 11 ай бұрын
@@MoxieBoosted Ursaring just needs a burn or poison partner to work. Guts Facade.
@MoxieBoosted
@MoxieBoosted 11 ай бұрын
@SirStanleytheStumbler I think most of the time you're better off with ursaluna tbh. Similar bulk, much less setup
@theflaminggroundon632
@theflaminggroundon632 9 ай бұрын
​@@MoxieBoosted I would like to say rhydon was better because of the lightning fest from one of the koko's but not sure if it fairs with anything else great...
@wildtacocat
@wildtacocat 10 ай бұрын
This video reminded me of how much I miss my Dusclops from ORAS lol it was such a beast
@StrayBee
@StrayBee 10 ай бұрын
Definately not a case of actually being more viable but I love using Scyther with Eviolite. It has strong Speed and Attack with decent 80 base def and spec. def, which works well with the eviolite. It's worst atribute is it's typing, so when Gen 9 rolled out I had a new plan! My set was: Scyther Technician Eviolite Water Tera Max HP, Max Speed, Jolly Tailwind, Aerial Ace, Pounce & Swords Dance. Paired with Lightning Rod Raichu with Fake Out this caught a lot of people off guard, facing them with a Bulky Pokémon that sets up Tailwind followed by Swords Dance (if you wasted their first turn well enough).
@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32
@tsyumamatsuthehavenofguard32 7 ай бұрын
...I imagine that copycat prankster mixup will probably change, just like the purloin prankster change with assist dive
@SoggyWafflesXp
@SoggyWafflesXp 11 ай бұрын
I always like these types of videos. I hope we get another video on Pokémon that are carried by their abilities. Also fuck Porygon-2.
@nonplayercharacter12333
@nonplayercharacter12333 28 күн бұрын
The thought of staring down a Calyrex in a priority Trick Room sent literal chills down my spins 🥶
@michaelkarim57
@michaelkarim57 2 ай бұрын
Misdreavus got top 2 or won 2013 U.S. nationals as a TR setter with Will-O-Wisp and Fake Out immunity. It also predicted Flutter Mane which would go on to outclass everything.
@TheBossSpencer
@TheBossSpencer 9 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@MoxieBoosted
@MoxieBoosted 9 ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@TheCrimsonElite666
@TheCrimsonElite666 7 ай бұрын
It's actually cool to see Pokémon like Murkrow and Riolu having great success in doubles similarly to Pachirisu in that one world championship.
@SEHughes08
@SEHughes08 2 ай бұрын
Golbat with eviolite is a tank like the porygon line it has different roll than Crobat but max hp spdef/ def golbat can slot it on any team and be a nuisance for opponents. Toxic roost super fang heatwave chunks an and slowly drains opponents while golbat survives and recovers
@connorreed7523
@connorreed7523 11 ай бұрын
For personal reasons, I have trouble deciding whether to slap Eviolite onto a Clefairy or a Porygon2. Clefairy is small, cute and pink, but patching your Porygon2 with a Dubious Disc is essentially installing malware on your virtual pet
@lokitheblu8662
@lokitheblu8662 11 ай бұрын
Was expecting to see galar corsola in this video
@trrerid
@trrerid 8 ай бұрын
Haunter would be a consideration as well. Didn't some one use it in VGC to some success, eince it has Levitate and Gengar doesn't?
@Andreecals
@Andreecals 2 ай бұрын
I know by now it's already common knowledge because of their usage, but magmar and electabuzz are getting better results than their evos because of eviolite, access to follow me and helping hand, and burn/paralysis inducing abilities, along with better speed and usable offense.
@coyraig8332
@coyraig8332 11 ай бұрын
Not overall less viable but I heard of cottonee getting used over whimsicott for a team somewhere
@perladel95
@perladel95 11 ай бұрын
In Gen 8 singles the only mid-evo that was better than the final evo was Porygon-2 which was in RU, while Porygon-Z was in NUBL. In Gen 9, the only example is Vigoroth which is ZUBL while Slaking is ZU
@thealientree3821
@thealientree3821 9 ай бұрын
I am pretty sure any case where Slaking exists, Vigoroth would be better by default.
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