COMPLETE GUIDE TO ALISA ECHO AND HARMONIZATION | Punishing Gray Raven

What's better than 1 excalibur? 2 excaliburs. Today I'll be talking about S Alisa Echo 's playstyle, ascensions, weapons and harmonization upgrade system, builds, her cub, team setups, and build and pull recommendations.
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0:00 Introduction and Overview
0:35 How to Obtain
0:51 How to Play / Playstyle & Rotation
2:12 Rank Upgrades
3:08 Weapons, Harmonization, and Builds
7:12 Team Setups
7:26 Pet/CUB
7:47 Pull/Build Recommendations
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[@Spider2B]

Best cop Alisa drops on the 16th! Thanks for watching! Harmonization builds for each team: www.notion.so/spider2b/Harmonization-Builds-Alisa-Patch-49352035edb04146be33301fe2dbce3f Socials: Twitch: www.twitch.tv/spider_2b Discord: dsc.gg/spider2b Twitter: twitter.com/Sp1dre Timestamps: 0:00 Introduction and Overview 0:35 How to Obtain 0:51 How to Play / Playstyle & Rotation 2:12 Rank Upgrades 3:08 Weapons, Harmonization, and Builds 7:12 Team Setups 7:26 Pet/CUB 7:47 Pull/Build Recommendations

[@mwx5314]

dorm currency goes up to 300k? ive been keeping it at 10k afraid to cap out, just buying hypertune mats!!! wtf!!! holy!! meta will change the freak out of the world.. a ton of changes.. omg.. here comes a new age..

[@diostone6975]

Damn, no non meta unit harmonization in the notion? I need to know noctis harmonization 😞

[@kizu4231]

... Will you ever talk about Alisa dps or she can't be as a dps like Vera Garnet(tank) with different build?

[@saiki3742]

​@@mwx5314they increased the CAP in Crimson weave patch

[@mwx5314]

@@diostone6975 i have noctis SSS+, he is NOT good.. sadly.. lets just wait for a noctis S rank.. maybe then he will be useful..

[@vinaboy1993]

Thank you Liv Luminance, you have served me well You have earned your rest

[@nguyenngoi793]

I love Alisa, especially when she yells loud enough to blow my brain away before bonking me with her excalibruh. 10/10 character.

[@luvkhay]

No more crit malding 🙏

[@Spider2B]

We always crit in this household 🙏

[@roycephantom9053]

What's that?

[@jijidu69]

@@roycephantom9053 Physical characters can crit. It means that they have a certain % of chance of doing double the damage. But without external buffs, character have like 25% chances of criting which is very very low. And criting increases the damage so much that you absolutely need to crit to have good scores. So on Bianca Abystigmata you will reset mutliple timed your run, until you get good rng where you crit on almost all your hits of her burst. Thanks to Alisa you will always have 100% crit.

[@DelusionalMf618]

​@@jijidu69Is there a way to see exactly how much crit a character has ?

[@jijidu69]

@@DelusionalMf618 every 100 crit on your character stats page, you gain 3 crit rate I believe.

[@markjasondimen5818]

All this years, you are my to go to PGR guide CC. Thank you so much for staying with the community.

[@Spider2B]

Thanks for watching all these years

[@markjasondimen5818]

@@Spider2B Will continually support you bro! We all are in this together!

[@guardiansoulblade2673]

@@Spider2B You are amazing, thank you for carrying the community with all your hard work.

[@IAMDEMIURGE]

Wait did something happen?

[@justerinooo]

Spider2B character guide this early? Ain't no way.

[@carlovergts02]

I truly wish there was a way to get 6* weapons over time. I’ve been managing pretty well with only the 5* weapons, but now with the Harmonization feature, it seems like it’s going to be even more important to have the 6* weapons.

[@AlaynaGeeee]

Maybe they’ll add it soon with all these big updates coming

[@djixi98]

​@@AlaynaGeeee maybe, but "soon" is at best more than a year away, since afaik there's nothing on CN that would make getting 6* weapons easier:/

[@Vios__]

There's the recent CN change of 100% rate on the weapon banner. Other than that, there's not much help.

[@DreiCortavoyz]

​@@Vios__honestly, that's better than nothing, cuz all this time we've been gambling for those sigweaps. 70% might seem like a guranteed but the moment you lose to the 30% you feel your soul drain😂

[@Kydino]

Pretty much this, weapons being 80% chance is fricked and if you go f2p you basically can't get them as you have to save BC so you can get the newer characters that come next patch. It's cool that we have this feature but I basically have only 3 six star weapons and I've been playing f2p since the starting week of the game.

[@psy4durezo]

It was already bad how sig weapons were more and more mandatory cause they put part of the character in it and now this harmony thing literally adding 2 memory slots but only on 6* ofc... Really sad day

[@artOVtrolling]

Is it really that much to ask to spend $5 for the monthly bc pack? It gives enough to pull a 6 star.

[@wygha885]

​@@artOVtrollingyes, it that much. You can't ask someone to spend real money

[@SolarFlorad]

Phenomenal. Thanks a ton for explaining Alisa. My Bianca and Rosetta will be very happy having a new member on the team.

[@RealityRift]

Amazing guide as always, you included tips I didn't know I wanted until you listed them.

[@hijodelsoldeoriente]

Thanks as always man! I'm always looking forward to your guides every patch ever since I started playing during Luna's patch. 😂 Wish you well!

[@kurokaba]

Thanks for the early Alisa Echo guide, Spider 2B! I've been saving my BC to get Lamia and Bianca on Lamia's patch so this was a huge help! I'm really liking Alisa's design, she looks great! I especially like her Excalibur-esque Ultimate. Thankfully, we can get Alisa for free so I don't have to worry too much. As for her weapon, however, I think I'll have to prioritize Lamia and Bianca's weapons first before I get hers, especially since I'm also saving for if Bianca's Solitary Dreams coating gets a rerun.

[@TheHuTao.]

Fire guide as always Spider 2B!! I really love bow characters in games! Her 6* bow Astraea really fits, woah! I love that attention to detail considering her bow is the name of the Greek figure; the Goddess of Justice

[@Doctor_Yiggles]

Thanks for the guide! Its great that she's free! Also good to know on the Harmonization system too.

[@thisjizz8895]

6:20 such a good thing to hear. I've been keeping that Ramiel in my inventory for months now and I don't even know why. Glad to know I still get to keep saving for Lamia and Scire's sfx skin

[@ferdsferds8023]

Man I came at the right time; free S Rank selector to get Bianca: Stigmata, got Rosetta and her 6* weapon in GUIDE, then her. Though I must admit I regret to play this game much too late but I'm glad I gave it a go.

[@JiWan-eg8jl]

Tyvm for dropping the guide spideee you are the 🐐

[@likeasir007]

Thanks for the video!

[@N0XEL]

only two more patches until i wont have any more scuffed teams i cant wait, alisa will be replacing my hanying and then i'll get lamia and dark karen(from the 100% standard banner) to complete the dark team.

[@ohreally6945]

Karen is good, but she is very annoying to use if she isn't SS3

[@jijidu69]

@@ohreally6945 she can always work as a pure qte bot if you don't want to invest too much in her.

[@SRFAA]

Been using Watanabe for so long. I'm finally going to be able to do Dark warzone sessions without dropping out of hero 95% of the time. Lol

[@djixi98]

Kinda similar, Alisa will replace Hanging, but since all my teams except Lightning are scuffed (haven't played from the Rosetta patch till Ice Ayla), I'll prob go for Stigmata, and ofc get dark Lamia. That way I'll have 3 teams and once I get Fire Uncle I'll have a decent fire team as well. Can't wait!

[@julisvega34]

I’m so glad I kept on doing the commissions after Ayla’s patch, I can keep on saving my bc for lamia😁

[@BBEich]

Thank you for the guide, very helpfull always

[@fiwcasanova]

the absulote GOAT of pgr guides. ty my sir

[@L3zura]

No one can stop me from having an SSS Alisa and making her the DPS 😤 F the meta, I love her gameplay

[@dianaiji1376]

love your guide❤

[@black.lockhart]

feeling excluded because i don't have stigmata and ny alisa is gonna buff my crimson abyss 😭

[@Spider2B]

Hey that's just more motivation!

[@yuu23163]

Same. 😭

[@ktmonster127]

more power

[@jokebuster5713]

Score is temporary, motivation in eternal

[@misu-sq3qu]

Going all out for alisa!!!

[@moatasimmohd462]

Using orie's theme for the guide of another stand character i see you sir 10/10

[@albroiser]

Spider just did a speedrun guide, Its almost like he's running from the cop Alisa 😂 Thank you for the content as always ❤

[@maryanntheconqueror]

Yay Alisa! I’m running low on bc and I need to save for Lamia patch + onwards so mine will be trapped using the random Bianca: Zero sig I have laying around 🫠 at least the passive reduces physical res shred and can harmonize so it’s not worthless…

[@joseph071]

Finally alissa❤

[@Reizouftvr]

Much helpful information Spider2B. What date does Alisa echo patch come out?

[@Spider2B]

16th

[@blueorca1244]

Let's go, my 500k dorm coin is ready 😂

[@Meloncholy89320]

STANDO POWAH

[@frostice961]

huge update niceeu

[@lui73737]

"Harmonize Lee first"...ok got it:))))

[@guardiansoulblade2673]

My Liv Eclipse is having a retirement party!

[@spiderninja8779]

Ayo based under night OST. Long live blue haired upholders of justice with stands! (Dayum! Now that I think about it, Orie and Alisa are pretty similar)

[@RikuSenpai1]

Finally, phys with crit.

[@hito-sama]

Seems like i need second pyhis team set up since i can't replace mama hanying

[@luxifer185]

so basically Alisa will give you a "stand" buff huh, awesome

[@Ronin03]

2:30 Can unlock and equip any 2 6* 2 set bonus- Me Spits out water: WhAT?

[@feyernightblade2050]

Waiting room

[@ikhwansaputra4707]

0.03 second after getting Alisa... Crit rate Stonks 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥

[@kael070]

i saw all the text on her core passive and died inside a bit

[@riftwalkk]

poor lee anyway Thank you for the guide ♥

[@Bv-yl5dg]

Nice early vid I didn't know she was free and just pulled for her...lol. No regrets though, wouldn't have been able to clear the new gamemode without her. No.21 just doesn't work against that dragon boss

[@Mistersleep08]

This must be the work of an enemy stand.

[@dawmi3140]

you remind me about per

[@astreofrost7357]

why is the lee powercreeping starting already with the harmonization Lee just cannot

[@_wave___]

spider video Wokege

[@hardiansyahputra3260]

that intro tho😂

[@kwasioppong-nm6sw]

Is Philip II the recommended also good for Alisa? Because I've already maxed the mems out.

[@thelostpuppy5483]

Im planning to build alisa as dps, what memories should i use to maximise her dmg?

[@SeekGrace]

Can't wait for giga chad Watanabe patch.

[@AngelAntonioCA]

Should I use the 5* weapon or the lighting bianca 6* weapon for harmonization if I cannot afford her signature?

[@sakuraa_a]

I'm a returner should i get alisa or ayla? I have all of the top characters for both teams i'm asking this because alisa memory set discounted this patch

[@renmanjares5314]

Spider2B what is Alisa's buff in the warzone?

[@thestranger0347]

Thanks for the guide as always. As a new player, this recommendation makes me a little bit confused since every S rank characters that I saw from every PGR content creator, needs their signature weapon, but on the other hand F2P and new player alike can"t afford those sig weapon and double S isn't easy to get without paincage or sacrificing the pulls for the future constructs, does that mean I can just play with the most minimum build (Base S rank and regular 5* from CO-OP)? Note: I've just played the game around 2 weeks.

[@banjokazuya2913]

PGR is VERY reliant on making you pul for the sig weapons. It's just not a F2p friendly game despite most of the people will be telling you so. Almost every new construct are heavily reliant on their signature weapons to be 'usable'. No sig weapon for your Empyrea and Feral? Good luck, now they are only QTE bots that you will only see when you press the QTE button for 2 seconds of animation. That's why Kuro baits people by making the featured event banner %100 rate and making the Signature Weapon banner 80/20. Still better odds then mosf of gacha despite it feeling like 50/50 sometimes (Yes I lost, twice.) It won't be easy or require you to save for many many months before you are able to get a signature weapon as a f2p. If you are not afraid of dropping a few bucks on monthly/BP passes though, it doesn't cost you that much (depends on where you live, economically), and you can grab some weapons that way.

[@thestranger0347]

@@banjokazuya2913 I see, would you say that with monthly card, can you afford the debut S-Rank + their Sig weapon everytime, or partially? thanks.

[@Spider2B]

usually everytime with monthly yeah

[@zealgaming8161]

PGR is nowhere near as f2p as some other gachas, but it's also in a way far more f2p then most other gachas as you can as f2p get every single future unit by simply playing. You won't be competitive, but you will be able to experience all the content of the game. Does it really matter that you can't kill the same boss as you previously fought, but that boss has 500% more hp? PGR story, music and characters are peak, the combat is really good too. But there's many games with just as good combat, but very few games with an such banger of a story.

[@user-vg6ts9tz4o]

I wonder where the 1200 mats go for harmonization. I only got the 25 but not the required mats to get the 2 pc effect

[@TheHawkeye275]

Spider I see you with the Orie Theme (Purity and Strictly). Why didn't I make the connection?

[@pakali8385]

Spider 2b im currently level 36 Do u think i can get alisa when she launch?

[@mwx5314]

dorm currency goes up to 300k? ive been keeping it at 10k afraid to cap out, just buying hypertune mats!!! wtf!!! holy!! meta will change the freak out of the world.. a ton of changes.. omg.. here comes a new age..

[@RIGZGJ]

Bruh I have almost like 600k 💀

[@Erenyeageerrrr]

I also have 600k lol

[@mwx5314]

@@Erenyeageerrrr 600k wtf.. welp haha..

[@fernandobarbosa9727]

The limit was increased back on Hanying's patch.

[@alephbuild0196]

Really reminds me of hangaku from re creator

[@Spider2B]

Yesss

[@getoutofmyheadgetoutofmyhe701]

undernight music detected❗️

[@Spider2B]

haha a man of culture

[@dankultimate3929]

You just KNOW I got 100000 commision shards

[@kaizenx5393]

What should I harmonize on Liv amp? Your link only stated that U can harmonize later on but didn't mentioned the set

[@Spider2B]

Guinavere or davinci usually

[@Reeis..]

🛐🛐🛐

[@ausfuhrung1295]

No more overwork for liv anymore.

[@silwarde]

so for f2p, is not worth pulling for alisa with BC. because the min stopping point is at SS that can easily get from PPC?

[@SeekGrace]

Yeah, buy her from dorm shop. Next character is gonna be disgustingly strong. You wanna get the whole package, including the pet.

[@Spider2B]

As f2p, you can just farm her purely from dorm currency and bp vouchers.

[@darkrite9000]

I guess not even CN has any info on why the game says that the weapon harmonization has multiple levels, guess they just haven't figured out what to do with them, is my guess at any rate.

[@williamg5495]

what is the community event to get the skin ??

[@flashX10]

isnt bianca ment to be played as an hyper carry so isnt it a damage loss for phy team?

[@Lumine__7]

Quick question: is it worth getting Ayla kaleido from the dorms now and wait till i save enough for Alisa cuz she's staying in the dorm's shop for quiet some time or should i save the currency for Alisa and get her as soon as she drops? Note that I'm a new player and started during the final days of N.21 feral patch.

[@robertod5317]

I think it just depends on which team you want to focus on more or needs more improvement, Ayla basically carries the ice team for now so if you don’t have plume it might be worth to get ayla , if you want to buff your physical team then alisa is better to get

[@Wilmadiamond]

Alisa. Assuming you followed most advice around, you would have got Rossetta and her weapon from the S Selector in the beginer missions. Then get Bianca Stigmata from the 100% rate up banner during anniversery. You should have enough BC if youve been doing story and modes like cursed waves and Recatitativo Di Fantasia. That way you have the full meta physical team. If you picked Plume, Alya is better as Plume cannot solo like other S ranks and Alya needs someone to swap off to when she runs out of orbs. If you are lacking Plume by the time you unlock Alya, get Bambinata. Plume isn't strong enough to warrant BC spent on her and the standard banner selector is better used on either when they release Qu Pavo or Wantanabe Epitaph. If you picked anyone else, I can't help you.

[@Lumine__7]

@@Wilmadiamond thanks for the advice guys! I've made up my mind. It's safe to go for Alisa since I'm willing to get Stigmata anyway, plus i already have Rosetta and her signature following the guides like u just said, so yeah that'll make Alisa the last puzzle piece.

[@rollandoalvarez3535]

I thought Alisa was stronger than Rosetta because of time stop, Good video always

[@Spider2B]

Yeah it's cause alisa's memory set focuses more on buffing than damage while leaped rosetta is almost all about damage.

[@maxbitangcor7960]

I have a question is the harmonization event permanent or nah?

[@MaxMax78904]

Why do you place Philipp II or DaVinci both on the top row? Wouldn't it be in both ways be more optimal to have them in the bottom row, since (according to the gray ravens website) DaVinci and Philipp II have both higher attack-stats than Signa? Am I missing something?

[@Spider2B]

Not a massive difference but yeah you can put it bottom row. It's like a 1% diff in damage.

[@MaxMax78904]

​@@Spider2Balright, thank you! :)

[@rifqihermawan1301]

lol you named the griffin peter 😂

[@Spider2B]

Chat thinks of good names...at least most if time 😂

[@stronghold42]

First seconds into the video like: I've heard this bgm before...it's CLEARly UNI, but who?... A few seconds later: Oh, of course it's Orie xD

[@RozhHersh]

That community event, is it permanent event or limited? Im actually new

[@Spider2B]

limited

[@RozhHersh]

@@Spider2B thank you

[@reisenlaniakea7374]

Why the Subcribe button and the bell icon if i don't get an information? Now i'm 12 hours late to watch the video. Thanks KZbin. ;)

[@nekuro5581]

Do i need resonated *6 weap for harmonization or just any *6?

[@Spider2B]

Any 6 star

[@justsomeguywithhalfamustac6837]

hey mr. spider I gotta ask why not harmonize rosetta and luna?

[@Spider2B]

replaced in the future

[@justsomeguywithhalfamustac6837]

@@Spider2B D:

[@Rtd_01]

What kind of event gives her coating? (Co-op or solo?)

[@Spider2B]

Community limited event

[@jee3097]

Does the SS3 Karen harmonization build apply to SSS too ?

[@jee3097]

Could i just slap on Ein harmonization for my 4 Boone 2 Conde for general use ?

[@user-zz2no9ro6f]

I'm stuck at what to do in PGR, been going at it for a month now, my best team is really bad, with Alpha, Liv Luminance, and, No.21 as a Tank, their elements doesn't match up I know but, I reached lvl 60+ because of them and idk what to do anymore.

[@augmentedsoldier6676]

Can I swap the respective harmonization buff freely like weapon resonance?

[@Spider2B]

Yup, just need to unlock the specific memory once with 1200 tops (very achievable)

[@augmentedsoldier6676]

@@Spider2B oh sweet thanks.

[@SmnTT]

When they give the next s rank selector? Or did they give one recently? I just came back to the game

[@Spider2B]

next patch, its more like standard banner selector

[@SmnTT]

Ty

[@tommygun4789]

When is she coming?

[@sukkisukki7663]

Can you use her with units that aren’t physical, I just got her and crimson weave back to back

[@Spider2B]

for healing kinda, but otherwise she doesnt bring much to the lightning team

[@KaitouHAX]

so if i understand this right it costs 25 harmonizer bottles to unlock weapon harmonization it costs 1200 resource shop currency to unlock 1 memory ONLY for that weapon if i want to change the memory i need to pay 1200 for a new one and i can freely swap between them is this correct?

[@Spider2B]

yup

[@xxdip5726]

My weapon pity is 20/30, should i pull for Alisa's sig or Lamia's sig?

[@danbelfsama6508]

Lamia

[@lyleholland2803]

Hmmm I'm not sure how man dorm stuff I have left 😅

[@polarishifte400]

can you explain What if I Harmonize her main set (Signa) what a difference between phillip and davinci Harmonize when signature set is essential to use. in this case i can switch between phillip and davinci if i want, and if i have material to Hypertune. but if i harmonize Davinci that mean i can only use Davinci 4set or 2davinci+2phillip with Signatureset.

[@Spider2B]

Short answer: You usually always want davinci over Philip, philip is only for budget builds. Long answer: Due to Alisa's qte giving the crit buff you want to procc her qte as much as possible which means 4 davinci is crucial for 100% crit uptime.

[@leandroclemente9297]

Can you help me to fix may pgr pc client, when it comes to in game resources it's only about 400mb+ it's always says download resources failed to download, my internet speed is okay idk what's the problem on my pgr

[@Spider2B]

Official discord has a channel for game client help!

[@Hamizannn]

I dont have bianca's weapon. Is it better for me to prioritize getting her weapon first than alisa's weapon?

[@Wilmadiamond]

Alisa is better because she makes better use of the harmonisation feature and gives extra damage bonus. HOWEVER, look at your other teams. Do you have any plans for a fire team? Do you or are you planning to get Lee Hyperreal? If yes, get Lee's sig, it makes him more consistent. If not, then Alisa sig, then Bianca.

[@Spider2B]

Yup this

[@Shunzui]

I gor a question yall, is balters snowy petals coatign rerunning soon?

[@eijey9803]

Yes. Iirc its BRS patch

[@justsomeguywithhalfamustac6837]

woah wtf she's dropping already? last time I played she was two months away god damn. Guess I got way sidetracked

[@marcogorgoglione4792]

Spider2B post rework question White stigmata Patton remains 4x cottie or will 4x Patton be played?

[@Spider2B]

You could run 4 patton but i just like the versatility of 4 cottie much more, esp for paincage

[@marcogorgoglione4792]

@@Spider2Bit was to get your opinion, I agree with you for the 4x cottie on white because it eliminates the dead time after the first bust, but after Hanying will the rotation of bianca remain 3 bursts or does it drop to 2? One last thing about 21 feral I play it with the 2x cottie together with its set in your video you said that ss3 inferior you use the ulti resonance instead on gray raven the site recommends the core resonance what do you recommend? But harmonized existence or Geneva? will you make a video to show how white performs post leap in warzone?

[@ChomskysGaming]

thanks for the video. sorry, your explanations are not clear to me what you mean rotation-wise if I have stigmata SS3 with deadline. Do you mean I just repeat her whole rotation a second time ? edit: i figured out what you meant by that, i wasn't using cottie, so it wasn't working, but i have more issues in the next reply

[@ChomskysGaming]

the whole rotation just isnt working at all for me, when switching to my SS leaped rosetta with sig, she almost always never has enough energy to ult, i never used her before because of that, i used to stay on stigmata 100% of the time. And also, maybe im doing something wrong, but im having issues with my SS3 Alisa, with sig weapon, half the time, I cant do the triple 3-pings in a row sequence to activate the chain attack. its confusing sometimes, when im pinging these 3 orbs to trigger it, new orbs keep appearing for me to use and its fine, but sometimes on the next rotation, new orbs wont appear as im trying to trigger her chain attack, or they are just not aligned or im missing 1 or 2 or like I just have 6 orbs

[@celticspear]

@@ChomskysGaming In order for Rosetta to have enough energy to ult right away you want to trigger her QTE attack as much as possible as you are playing Bianca. For example: -Start Alisa -> Yellow orb to gap close & trigger Rosetta QTE. -Swap to Bianca -> hold dodge -> do at least one red 3-ping to trigger Alisa QTE -> Alisa QTE will trigger Rosetta's QTE again because of Da Vinci harmonization. -Continue doing Bianca's rotation until you see your QTE's cooldowns end, by now you should have 99 stacks and be ready to ult. -Bianca's Ult will trigger both Alisa's and Rosetta's QTE, trigger Rosetta's first at the beginning of Bianca's ult animation, then once Rosetta exits the field (more or less around when Bianca is ready to dive with the excalibur slash) trigger Alisa's QTE, this will again let you QTE with Rosetta right before the ult hits which allows them to all be on field to further buff the damage. -Loop this again if you are doing double Bianca rotation. Doing this will basically let you QTE with Rosetta around 8 times before Bianca exits the field and by then you'll have enough energy to Ult with Rosetta right away or be close enough to only need a single 3-Ping to get it, then you switch to Alisa after Rosetta's plunge and you do her rotation before going back to Bianca once more.

[@ChomskysGaming]

@@celticspear gotcha, thank you so much for taking time to help ! so that makes sense, ill try that out. would you perhaps have any idea about my 2nd issue, mentioned above, about Alisa ?

[@celticspear]

@@ChomskysGaming Haven't really run into that problem that much other than when I myself mess up her rotation. You don't technically need three 3-pings as long as you spam one or two and then enough single or doubles to fill her Bow bar she will do the chain attack, you just need to be fast so that her bow string bar doesn't run out before you trigger that chain, then ult asap then swap or do a ping to trigger the enhanced shot.

[@ChomskysGaming]

@@celticspear I see, though, im aware i have to ping 9 orbs, and all within the timer, but I mean that very often, every other rotation, i end up not having enough orbs, as in like 6-7 orbs but the times that its fine, I notice that plenty of orbs keep appearing, immediately refilling my bar, as im pining towards the 9 orbs for the chain attack, like it does in the video, and sometimes, it doesnt do that, i dont know what causes that if you look closely here at 1:01 when hes in the special mode, where you need to ping 9 orbs for the chain attack, every time he pings a 3 orb, his orb bar immediately refills with 3 new orbs, so i wonder why is that, and what that is ?

[@HuTao_Sparkle]

Question, what if Alisa stays onfield if you don't have stigmata? Is she good just like no. 21 Feral stay onfield if you don't have CW?

[@jijidu69]

No her damage is frankly very low compared to stigmata. That's really not her role. But you can grab a stigmate during lamia patch on the standard banner selector.

[@HuTao_Sparkle]

@@jijidu69 ahh, ok. Thanks for the answer.