Social Systems

[@selinsaki6217]

The video is helpful for my Systems Analysis class, thanks for sharing it! However, I cannot really concentrate on the video because the stress of each sentence makes me distracted as if it was a computer-generated voice...

[@prateekgurjar1651]

thank you very much for putting this up for free man !!

[@SystemsInnovationNetwork]

You are welcome!

[@raghavagrawal14]

Positive interdependence seems to be at play in open source projects.

[@sohailarshad426]

isn't exchange a kind of optimization of allocation of resources....? hence though linear , but positi ve..?

[@TheAwillz]

The concept of negative interdependence perhaps goes someway in explaining the inefficiencies of the US division of Government between the Judicial, Executive and Legislative branches. Perhaps a design based upon positive interdependence would produce better results?

[@MaartenThewissen]

Thank you for making these videos, they are very helpful in my attempt to make sense of the social sciences! I do need some help in understanding what you mean by "the value of the system" though (e.g. 10:43). I reasonably assume it is the sum of the "value of the agents". But then I don't see the difference between exchange and cooperation: I buy an apple because it is worth more to me than its price, and the vendor sells it because he values the money more; so overall this exchange is no longer zero-sum, but adds value. Am I right?

[@SystemsInnovationNetwork]

Yes it is true what you say. During the video I said that exchange relations are "near" to zero sum, it is not zero sum for the reason you note but it can often be modeled as a zero-sum game approximation because it is based on self-interest as opposed to cooperation where the agents may be working together for the overall organization thus adding significantly more value to the combined organization. I think this is explained further in video 5 of this series "Social Structure" where these different types of organization are explored in more detail, please see that video.

[@MaartenThewissen]

I will probably watch these videos in the following weeks, I might ask again later :-)

[@ReimuandCirno]

I would argue that exchange has a net positive effect. While the number of goods in the system is not increasing, those goods are being allocated to agents who value them more highly. Exchange allows the system to reach a more optimal state (so long as all exchanges are done voluntarily).

[@SystemsInnovationNetwork]

Yes, that is true, I think the argument here is that it is a "near" linear interaction. Relative to conflict or cooperation, exchange transactions find themselves somewhere in between, they do not subtract as much value as conflictual relations and they do not add as much value to the whole as relations of pure cooperation and can thus be seen to be somewhere in the middle ground - not linear but "near" linear relative to the other two that add or subtract significant amounts of value and are thus nonlinear.

[@mericrisrafols2338]

Currently watching ❤

[@nessafayedawaton3507]

currently watching❣️

[@santacroce2489]

Pure gold for an intj

[@raghavagrawal14]

So the schema represents the individual's ethical, emotional and psychological landscape?

[@SystemsInnovationNetwork]

+Raghav Agrawal Yes, but I would put it more like this, as the conceptual framework(or model) through which we interpret the world. Think about a doctor looking at a patient with an flew, they will see that very differently from the average person because they have built up a whole set of models(the schema) during their education that gives that phoneman a context and enables them to interpret it in a particularly away.

[@raghavagrawal14]

+Complexity Academy Thanks for clearing that up sir, could you also point out some resources on how can one convert qualitative data into conceptual models?

[@amoghverma3108]

But the world still has some conflicts... We hope they're over and we achieve a happy society.

[@andrechristianto7131]

Thank you for well delivered insight

[@mouzam.s.7392]

any references on social systems that you recommend to start with..

[@SystemsInnovationNetwork]

To be honest I can not recommend any sources on social systems, I could not find any in the making of this course which is a bit sad. Luhmann is the author most people associate with social systems theory, but personally I am not a big fan. I think it is much better just to learn a bit about systems theory and then apply that to sociology, that is what I did in this video. As for social complexity you might have a look at this book goo.gl/6t7OXB

[@mouzam.s.7392]

Appreciate it. I am using systemic thinking approaches in my study and i hope i can do excellent exploratory research in social systems

[@SystemsInnovationNetwork]

I guess you have seen our other courses on systems theory and thinking, if not you can find them here: goo.gl/1jmYbm goo.gl/jd4loq

[@macbcheesy]

The New Human Rights Movement - Peter Joseph

[@erlinacobrado7947]

​@@SystemsInnovationNetwork late question, but could you please sketch in some detail your problems, criticism or objection with Luhmann's social systems theory, or provide a source which criticizes him? I have been starting to read some of his books and detailed English resources are surprisingly still sparse. Thank you very much for this video and your reply in advance.

[@uziwachindcritnow8671]

Thank you

[@reymartrodrigo7804]

Watching ❤️

[@delightmaraviles1659]

Currently watching

[@cresapedroza1466]

Currently watching💕