Comprehensive Blackwing Lair Boss Strategy Guide!!

[@JaySea]

Skip to the boss you want to see: 0:18 - Razorgore the Untamed 3:30 - Vaelastrasz the Corrupt 6:49 - Broodlord Lashlayer 8:45 - Firemaw 11:56 - Ebonroc 13:11 - Flamegor 14:20 - Chromaggus 21:41 - Nefarian

[@Solnaes87]

MVP

[@julesmartin6972]

@@retaura1333 Wow classic is 101% blizzlike beat that

[@DamirH]

I was a mage in vanilla, the way we did Nefarian is that all mages blinked to the gate where the adds spawn from. This way no raid members are in polymorph range and the mages just sheep themselves.

[@ik-ik7ke]

this long has been disproven

[@mancamiatipoola]

HAHA! i would love to see a video of that cute animal farm :)

[@mrfrostiejr]

Haha this is amazing, seeing some of our old footage getting repped was a killer surprise, Centrelink represent!!

[@JamesWilliams-yc3yd]

This was a ton of fun. I started in WOTLK and never got the true vanilla experience. My guild was the first horde clear on our server, we got Timelapse for chrom too...

[@MarkShank]

I love the idea of the whole dungeon bullet pointed into 30 minutes, because I’ve been watching one hour guides on just razorgore or Vael. Unfortunately, I’ve been doing my homework on the first two fights and I saw a significant error or omission on each of those that makes me reluctant to use this as a source for the remaining encounters. Vael’s debuff on the main tank isn’t random or unlucky as stated in the video. It is every 45 seconds. It needs to be planned for and can be scripted on that timer. Razorgore is taunt immune so I think the glossing over of the conflagration mechanic being like Drakk isn’t helping viewers. You need to manage threat in this phase as well. A final point, it is stated verbally in the Nef section that the warlock class call summons a single infernal but the text on screen says it summons two.

[@Globalplayer1102]

Also Vael's cleave has a sort of chain lighnting mechanic, so positioning for the melee is very important.

[@Occidentally]

Chrom breaths are NOT frontal cone, they are 360. All of them.

[@nylebrynxpoluza]

This is the best comprehensive aq40 guide on the internet.

[@CrixGuides]

Warlock Class Call is two Infernals Brotha. Mage class call strategy- Dispell everyone if you can’t LoS(like you couldn’t in Vanilla)

[@Rafals1993]

You're wrong about Cleave - Cleave also does craptons of threat just like Heroic Strike - the only difference is, Blizzard didn't put the same thing in the description. It just generates a bit less since it does less single target damage (not much less though). DPS Warriors might want to just stick to Bloodthirst and Whirlwind spam and then Execute if threat is an issue on Vael.

[@Radric33]

This is true.

[@Xlakt]

This is wrong. HS R8 does around 15 threat per rage whereas cleave does around 6. The point with spamming cleave is that if the tanks spam HS, they're constantly doing more threat per rage than the dps. This is a useful document on threat docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KmZzFXhUB01o-qjn-ytsczcuH2g3_w9EtHphMxm4YgY/edit#gid=0

[@savigy1301]

This needs more attention; while cleave still does slightly less, it's still dangerous

[@hangedtexnik]

@@Xlakt you are right, but not for Vael fight where you have infinite amount of rage and you do HS or cleave with the same frequency . So doing HS or cleave generate almost the same amount of threat.

[@Xlakt]

@@hangedtexnik HS generates roughly 288 threat per spell where Cleave generates little more than half of that, according to the calculations in the document I linked.

[@Hishichi]

nice onyxia guide thanks. never thaught ZG is so awesome

[@clouds2589]

....Thaught?

[@bukeahn7586]

On the very first boss, it definitely isn't optimal to have one of your tanks controlling the orb from the very start. Optimal would be the lowest DPS controlling the orb until the very last egg, and then dropping out of the orb for the main tank to pick up before destroying the final egg. There are 30 eggs, and controlling the orb takes that character out of the fight, and there are tons of mobs running around. You want your tanks tanking, imo.

[@livinghealthywithfredrikli2759]

we kinda killed all adds on spawn....... so yeah idk your guild must be super casual if you have mobs running around.

[@davidinman6020]

"super casual". Maybe they have lives.

[@imperialm1332]

Thank you punkrat my guild was struggling at MC

[@JoeHertler]

Been working to put together strats for our guild - and most of the pre-existing BWL content out there right now is, well... not that great. Thank you for putting together a clear and concise guide aimed at semi HC and casual-ish guilds our there. I’m looking forward to avoiding the traumatizing progression race I experienced a decade ago (this time around)! This guide is a massive asset to us all :D

[@99ZULU]

Have you watched Skarm Tank's BWL guides?

[@Dyingwood.]

Austin W dude shut up you comment on half the comments just saying he did a good job. stop shilling out some other dudes videos

[@99ZULU]

@@Dyingwood. You poor simple minded fool, what I'm doing is not to put down Punk Rat. I like the dude, sadly this video of his is lacking information and some of what he says is out right wrong. So for those commentators saying how they are going to use this as their BWL guide I want to guide them to someone else's videos that are a lot more in depth and accurate. Especially since this person right here even said "and most of the pre-existing BWL content out there right now is, well... not that great." He clearly is unaware of the content I am.

[@JoeHertler]

Austin W totally! And it’s a great comprehensive guide. Skarm just has a tendency to ramble. We’re not some super hard core guild, so his deep dive guides are realistically not going to be as effective for our more casual raiders to watch. That being said, I love skarm (especially as a tank).

[@Dyingwood.]

Austin W yes clearly your one example is “most of the pre-existing bwl content out there” XD

[@andymandel]

Im a wow player who hasn't played since cataclysm and this was like reliving my childhood fun to watch.

[@patrickpatenaude7719]

Very nice guide, much more comprehensive then the other ones covering Bwl out there. Thank you!!

[@99ZULU]

Skarm Tank's guides on BWL are what you want to watch. This video missed a lot of important bits as well as gave a lot of incorrect info. But what can you expect from a 28 min guide on all of BWL..

[@Saymos]

@@99ZULU Have a look at Crushed's Blackwing Lair Guide if you want a 30 min. It's soo much better than this and afaik didn't have funky/faulty info like this one. As a raid leader Skram's is great as well but your members will likely not spend like 2½ hours to watch but they can/should manage 30 mins.

[@Phosty]

Don't walk in Vael's room unless people are ready for goblins.

[@nofear1029]

Awesome vid man, perfect timing too, gonna share with my guild for them to learn the fights.

[@99ZULU]

I recommend you have them watch Skarm Tank's guides instead, much more detailed and accurate. Sadly punkrat is giving some bad advice.

[@nofear1029]

@@99ZULU i have asked in the past. But the long videos i know alot of my guild wont watch. I have watched them. Agree they are amazing.

[@99ZULU]

@@nofear1029 well then you better make sure to cover all the inaccuracies and things missed in this guide or you are going to have a bad time.

[@pogchamp2897]

@@nofear1029 if your guild follow this video u gonna spend 2 weeks or more to kill broodlord and won't get past firemaw trust me

[@pogchamp2897]

As for chromaggus, forget about half of what he said, have a druid with melee group, use restorative pots, give hourglass to at least 2 healers and hunters, and u only need 2 tanks not 4, timelaps can be usefull on melees to avoid ninja aggro so u won't waste dps spots on useless offtanks who won't get to do anything if the guild goes slowly on that fight and follow the raid leader calls. And finaly for the enrage phase, if he is vulnerable to fire or shadow dmg u definitely have to slow down on dps since warlock and fire mage threat is cancer if a warlock pulls aggro on enrage phase that's 100% wipe, if a mage starts crit spree with frostbolt during frost vulnerability and tank gets hit with timelaps then it's a guaranteed wipe

[@AshyView24]

Haha I remember the rogue one because I liked laughing at my rogue friend panicking and getting cleaved 🤣

[@FormerGovernmentHuman]

Quick note when you were talking about fishing for vulnerabilities that is only the trash leading up the Chromagg, DBM will always announce Chromagg's vulnerabilitie's, you only need to fish for the wyrmkin's vulnerabilities before pulling chromagg.

[@TheXarfay]

Comprehensive Naxx Boss Strategy Guide right here :D

[@nklx_moto]

Love the new style of Mc ❤️

[@Roofhack]

11:30 If Americans or others are wondering why the guild is called "Centrelink" ~ basically Centrelink is welfare source of Australians, the joke is these guys are all on welfare playing WoW.

[@yofyo]

see: Damo and Darren.

[@boboallin]

checked the comments as soon as i got to that and this was the first one i see. hahahaha fucking cenno

[@copiousbeer9227]

Always thought it was cenna link cuz of how Aussies say it

[@crushl2451]

The 3 Drakes do NOT require the cape on all the raid, only on tanks. Shadowflame will not hit the raid and if it does, its a wipe anyways. The only boss that requires the whole raid to equip Onyxia cloak is Nefarian. He will hit the whole room when he lands.

[@aljosailic9725]

You can also hide behind his throne and not get hit,so you basically dont even need the cloak if you are not the tank

[@rompehero]

Punkrat.... THANK YOU for making this. It all makes sense for me now. Thank you!

[@Ocshredder714]

Really nice guide dude!! Now if everyone can be good and not weird, we will be okay! 👌

[@Kryxx07]

Love the subtle AdvertiseSP reference. :D

[@Ocshredder714]

Kryxx07 😎😉😎

[@Presence_o_Mind]

Awesome video man! We appreciate all the hard work that you do. Can't wait for Wednesday!

[@korenn9381]

About the Vaelastrasz tip for warriors to spam cleave instead of heroic strike - Watch Skarm's video. He explains that cleave also does extra aggro, it just doesn't say it in the tooltip. And while it's less than heroic strike, it's close enough that you should just spam heroic strike instead.

[@maskimiliananderberg3791]

Finally, a good Molten Core boss guide.... wait this is not Molten Core? :thinking:

[@lmann7427]

That hunters UI + Graphics look pristine

[@Grkmeister]

Comprehensive Molten Core Boss Strategy Guide!!

[@rng81]

You know there was something called Antialiasing in Vanilla too. All those jaggies will be lost in time, like raider's tears in rain.

[@Jerlemi2]

rng81 blade runner....

[@full_metal2452]

Disagree with Razorgore strat. Just ignore one half of the room and use platform and split in two groups. Adds come to you.

[@bobafittgaming9380]

Was funny watching you guys wipe for 90 minutes on Firemaw with that strategy! =P

[@comq01]

lol lets not talk about that

[@BlazzinBobby]

Fantastic video dude!

[@pogchamp2897]

The reason why Vael was a guild killer is because of the rogues using 2 backstabs in a row without vanish or warriors spamming execute crits with recklesness without paying attention to KTM and wiping the raid in last sec

[@zacharyerwin-d1z]

this is truly a excellent guide thank you for this ^.^

[@dingding12321]

3:15 captions: "exactly like General Jackass"

[@Stingehx]

just to clear this up for everyone, cleave is like 20 less threat than heroic strike. 20 is nothing compared to the tanks threat (40.000-60.000 threat). So just use heroic strike

[@Stingehx]

if you wanna do max damage as a warrior, bind heroic strike to every other ability you have :)

[@samwaite4288]

I am Veganosaur

[@pogchamp2897]

Yeah and u just have to give 2 to 3 sec delay between HS uses so u stay under the off tanks who will spam that sht like crazy

[@Emajenus]

HS does a lot more threat compared to Cleave. It does 145 threat in addition to the threat from its damage.

[@Cynsham]

Paladins can Bubble the bronze affliction, and Mages can Block out of it. Gives you a little more leeway in distributing the sands.

[@oGhullio]

but then u don't hv the ultimate raid spec setup if u take block...

[@Cynsham]

oGhullio i’d personally rather have block and ice barrier to ensure my own safety rather than put more pressure on healers keeping me alive, or spec arcane power to do marginally more dmg

[@Cynsham]

oGhullio also getting stunned randomly for 6 seconds will significantly lower your dps regardless of spec

[@oGhullio]

@@Cynsham That's all true

[@Derjeniche1510]

@@oGhullio and there should always be at least one deep frost mage for winter's chill

[@matti2408]

Very nice, easy to follow guide. Thanks!

[@Roxxfloor]

Thx for the guide and your tips, as a raid leader it's really usefull !

[@99ZULU]

I would highly recommend watching Skarm Tank's guides instead. This video has a lot of missing/ incorrect info.

[@Atraira]

"nef is basically a tank and spank" oh you got jokes huh

[@eddgrs9193]

Basically all of WoW is tank and spank.

[@Tauroi]

pugs can do it, so can you :)

[@mikek3638]

I think it's more rage, see below if the first is mana, the 2nd is energy, then the 200 is rage, right? Effect #1 (6) Apply Aura #24: Periodic Energize Value: 500 Radius: 100 yards Interval: 1 seconds Effect #2 (6) Apply Aura #24: Periodic Energize (3) Value: 50 Radius: 100 yards Interval: 1 seconds Effect #3 (6) Apply Aura #24: Periodic Energize (1) Value: 200 Radius: 100 yards Interval: 1 seconds

[@TheMikester636]

really good guide. appreciate it friend

[@sirriffsalot4158]

Ending sigh startled me, lol

[@nirmas8026]

For the Hunter Call, u can put up an repair Bot. So the Hunters can nuke the whole time. When the weapon is broken just repair it an nuke again.

[@unclegaspatcho1818]

You rock Punky Punk. Thanks for the pro tips.

[@cailenricketson]

Execute “EX-eh-cute” not “eggsecute” that’s a Pokémon. You’ve been saying it for a long time now and it drives me nuts! Lol. Love the vids man

[@damianhuisman1728]

nice guide, watched it 4 times :)!

[@robertdoupe4142]

ok everyone lvl engineering at least 205 for the first boss

[@tywilson3689]

for just 3 mobs which aren't even a big deal to burn down lol

[@Drunkledore]

@bean machine not everyone has time to make a second 60 dedicated to making G

[@Pixelkip]

bean machine idk I like herb alch. I had to drop eng

[@Chris-gy9qc]

How to get a ton of comments on your video: have the wrong title. =P Very informative but to the point, thanks again buddy.

[@Woodzies]

Nice molten core guide, thanks

[@denzel420]

Great job man!

[@ThePhilliTy]

that was a really helpfull and interesting video. thank you for that

[@PrincessHarmonyMoonlight]

chromagus is a bad pupper

[@al4385]

15 years late, but appreciate it.

[@vivianmendespaioli7740]

Great Guide BTW

[@giannidellicolli7621]

Looking at your logo (first time I ever watch any of your videos) Are you from Montreal dude? If so awesome and even if not thanks for the guide!

[@nathanielarnold1602]

Great video!

[@rowdyredfred]

Coming back to this for in-depth info was a bad idea. As an concept, we don't have any warrior tanks. What do you do for the Nef class calls then?

[@alisardar4604]

Finally! Nice one buddy! Ty

[@unstopple2776]

thanks alor sir for all these info

[@Zeebo1uk]

Nefarian is wearing the Warriors tier2 before it got it got its updated looks, we had black/red for weeks and was nearly impossible to kill them

[@NeoKailthas]

by molten core, he is talking about your brain. it will melt in BWL.

[@walkinzorochi9461]

Love your vids, keep it up.

[@alexb372]

Broodlord's knockback is not the most important ability, mortal strike is. Suggesting that DPS auto attack for the first "10-15%" of the fight is a TERRIBLE idea. Broodlord is purely all about how fast you can kill him before all of your tanks suffer 1-shot's. You hardly covered his Mortal Strike at all, which is BY FAR the most important mechanic. Broodlord's auto attack followed immediately by his Mortal Strike being off cooldown then it's immediately auto attack after Mortal Strike can kill any tank (at any level of gear/buffs; even in full AQ-BiS) in a matter of half a second. You also did not mention at all what to do with the adds from the suppression room that respawn during the fight (dragonkin, orcs, whelps). Your AoE tank should only be holding the whelps. Ranged DPS kills the caster orcs. Melee DPS peels to kill dragonkin.

[@ITSaPendragon]

use the MT to destroy the last egg he will have 100% aggro regardless, no point wasting your MT on the all the eggs when a someone else can do it

[@aldeen9190]

Punkart yeah!!!

[@DJ_Treu]

Fiewmaw doesnt need the entire raid to use cloak; the tanks are the only ones who takes the shadowflame; if he turns and hits the group theyre dead anyways so keep your dps cloak on if youre not a tank

[@pogchamp2897]

Broodlord should be tanked next to the wall not that pillar so melees can run in and out when it comes to the knockback to avoid unnecessary AOE dmg and cause stress to healers

[@xXNIDSXx]

The title needs changing bud.

[@aaronezzo3846]

why

[@CLOWEN2010]

Aaron Ezzo he first titled it guide to molten core

[@elixthirst]

@@CLOWEN2010 lol

[@sebasteanjanzen1210]

This comment needs changing bud

[@Dan-pp3qd]

Fucking idiot

[@nikolaiatanasov9593]

great vid

[@pastrie42]

Is there a reason you are having 4 groups in corners instead of only 2 like skarm recommends. Have you evaluated both strata and why did you choose the 4 group? I also noticed other errors in this video. I think you should take it down and correct the glaring mistakes others have already pointed out. You aren't doing guilds many favors when you misinform.

[@Beetny]

>Aim to be a general strategy guide >Whole raid uses sappers at once. Yeah ok.

[@deltoidx]

yeah ignore that, punk just ripped that after watching 1 speedrun

[@jadage5541]

He did say that it was the easiest way, not the only way. It's still pretty easy to just AoE those initial mobs down. It's just easier with sappers.

[@deltoidx]

@ its not, its just a waste of gold unless you are speed clearing

[@narhwallord6985]

​@@deltoidx It helps get control of the boss. The best way without sappers is to have a pull timer and have your ranged start the pull together. (Have them casting with 2-3 seconds before the timer goes off)

[@ITSaPendragon]

time lapse only reduces threat on MT for the duration the the stun, after the stun stops you gain 100% health back and chrom comes back to you,

[@MikeHunt-wl4ye]

Dude, you’ve never heard the word buffet pronounced in real life? Thanks for the video.

[@_theHUMUNGUS]

You are thinking of buffet in the context of food. When it is a blast of wind pushing something, the T at the end is pronounced

[@buffalobill1995]

timelapse doest "permanently reduce all threat"...its a minor threath drop and you need 2 tanks

[@micharoesler]

So much inaccurate information in this video and it does not mention important things, sad really

[@NilsonChristopher]

@@micharoesler Bingo, its a threat drop like broodlord, maybe 20-30%. you have everyone step in and eat the timelapse beside an offtank hiding out of LoS behind him and 2-3 healers. So when it hits, he goes to offtank and he drags him back into position and main tank grabs him again. Works perfectly most of the time

[@Mrratmain]

Watching tipsout wipe on a boss is 10/10 tbh we raided it took 1hr ez as shit

[@ihateandreykrasnokutsky]

I don't understand English well, but on 0.5 speed it's much better, though the man speaks like he's drunk.

[@LegionInfanterie]

TITLE IS FIXED xD GL in BWL bois

[@njaidn]

@Punkrat Hello, could you turn on "Community contribution"? Would like to translate this to spanish.

[@cockney2142]

aprende ingles, lmao k tolai

[@njaidn]

@@cockney2142 Lo que quiero es traducirlo para la gente que no sabe inglés. Un saludo, energúmeno mononeuronal.

[@cockney2142]

Sound mad ? Pahhhh

[@testsubjectzz]

I just want to say the strat for bwl bosses is to stack warriors. 39 warriors with 1 healer and you will melt bosses

[@TheoBrixtonTheKid]

Wing "buff-it"? k what.

[@davidgill5699]

He kept annoying me with Ee-bonroc, he was saying wing buff-et correct

[@NilsonChristopher]

It is pronounced Buff-it. Just like some noobs called aggro....Argo back in the day

[@Zeovm]

thats how its pronounced ? its not a wing buffet as in all you can eat wings, theres a difference. Dont be ignorant.

[@incface]

"Molten Core".

[@aaronezzo3846]

?

[@bluefate2159]

@@aaronezzo3846 ??????????????????????

[@toxicwhirl]

"Have your hunters use rank 1 frost bolt or whatever it is" Rank 1 frost bolt I'M DYING

[@RoryMcIver]

toxicwhirl I got frosted tip arrows. Same thing right?

[@alexb372]

"This is the first boss that you need your entire raid to equip Onyxia Scale Cloak" that is 100% incorrect. Only the tanks need to be wearing the cloak, and the rest of the raid should be dodging the Shadow Flame casts by using LoS. Even after your entire raid has Onyxia Scale Cloaks, it's still by far better for them to use their standard cloaks and for them to dodge the ability. It will still do considerable amounts of unnecessary damage. Also, his Shadow Flame does not work exactly like Nefarion's. It should not be able to 1-shot anyone in MC gear, so if one or two people fail on the dodge, then you can just heal them up. You also completely lacked mentioning that the off tanks should position themselves on the opposite wall from the main tank during this fight (in the other corner of the hallway's entrance). This is so that there is only 1 person being hit by his breath. Should the targets change to an off tank, that off tank and the main tank should swap positions.

[@pogchamp2897]

Yeah this guide is so off it's hilarious, ppl following that strat won't get past firemaw

[@pogchamp2897]

Just have the 2nd main tank or off tank behind the pillar arch in the entrance as u montionned to swap with the other one in case sht goes crazy or the healers suck and have an off tank with enough FR staying back on the opposit side to taunt wing buffet and have the mele run in and out with 5 stacks, for the alliance a paladin should stay behind the offtank(s) who taunt wing buffet and spead his FR aura to the tanks for extra safety. Also the positionning in this video was cancer, the mele and off tank were on the wrong side of the entrancr

[@alexb372]

I think it's completely POSSIBLE to get up to Chrom with this guide. Just going to be a lot of retries with EVERY buff.

[@pogchamp2897]

@@alexb372 they'll wipe on firemaw over and over and over till they change the strat lol

[@pogchamp2897]

@@comq01 it's clear that alot of youtubers who make vanilla content never played vanilla before and were making scripts from old forums and threads. There is another one i know about it's madseasonshow, i love the dude's content but if you see his AQ40 video u'll know that he never raided AQ past fankriss the unyelding

[@alexb372]

You don't want to pop sapper charges on the orcs at the start of the razorgore fight. It's wasteful unless your raid is spending thousands of gold a night in consumables for a speed run. The main tank, a rogue, or a hunter can control the orb. Usually it's done by a rogue so that the tanks can be tanking orcs adds (unless of course you have a raid composition that is less than optimal with way too many warriors anyways). You made no mention that the person controlling razorgore should be timing the cooldown so that they move as far away to another egg as possible after popping one egg. If you try to just pop the ones closest to you, then you'll end up wasting time running to the outlier eggs while your cooldown to pop an egg is ready. Saying that the raid needs to split up into 4 groups is entirely misleading, and even in the video footage it shows that the raid is in fact NOT split up. The warriors and rogues are the only ones being split up, while the rest of the ranged stands in the middle. Your video footage also shows hunters are not kiting dragonkin, and you mention that they should be dps'd down with the orc adds. That's plain out and simple, a horrible idea. Burning dragonkin down is only what you do when your raid has far beyond the necessary dps to kill them, and is still an unnecessary waste of caster and healer mana.

[@99ZULU]

Kiting the dragonkin is very risky, if the hunter goes down all of thouse elites are going to wipe your healers first, then the raid. If your group can't handle dpsing them quick enough then you are probably going to have a short lived raid anyway.

[@CELINExDION]

no one cares dude go outside

[@jewlzbutters7115]

Cleave also has a thread mod, it's just hidden.

[@GolfLikeWoods]

care to elaborate?

[@jewlzbutters7115]

@@GolfLikeWoods the threat mod from Heroic Strike comes from it's added damage, and cleave also has that added damage, but a bit less, so it does less threat, but not by much

[@GolfLikeWoods]

@@jewlzbutters7115 so why do some guides say to cleave even on single target if threat is an issue?

[@oGhullio]

What addon do you use to see all the alerts and casts he does?

[@madswn81]

was a paladin back in bwl, cromag is the most boring fight standing literally looking into a wall, spamming cleanse :D

[@pbro5899]

MOLTEN CORE PogChamp

[@RoboCNC]

What boss mod are you using here that has the timers in the middle bottom of the screen?

[@DieshoNeverDies]

>Comprehensive back music trouble that x.x

[@codysconclusions895]

you missed the part about the class calls on nef that they arent guaranteed debuffs.... it only effects you if you get hit WHILE CASTING... so most of these are avoidable.

[@Jeffc0987]

CodysConclusions ehhh, it's been a while but I'm 99% sure that's wrong.

[@MrNomanTV]

Cleave have the same threat mod as heroic strike. So it's only the damage difference in threat. So it really does not matter. Tank should pop recklessness+dw on pull so he gets far enough ahead on threat. Off tank should save it until maintank gets the debuff so he can blow past the dps

[@mopmop9552]

Just asking but the debuffs from Chromaggus get away if you bubble or not?

[@redvsblueftw]

Cleave only does 45 less base threat than heroic strike.

[@Yunaschesirekat]

Firemaw and Chromaggus is eating our raids ass

[@ryanwalbridge8045]

might have one shot the boss and died right after because I didn't know how to do the fight and now can't get back in......

[@bkjoshy9408]

MC? I believe you said it in the start of the vid hahaha