Comprehensive Submarine Guide (And Fighting them) in World of Warships

[@Yurobeat]

04/01/'24 - New video covering all the submarine updates has been released ========= This comment will be pinned for things not covered in the video, either superficial things, things I forgot, and possible future updates related to submarines. 10/13 (Video release) • Hydrophones does not go through island • Submarines cannot detonate • 2:17 - For clarification purposes, Submarine on Periscope spots enemy surface ships based on their air detection value (Like how Planes spot ships) • 54:34 - Another clarification, the theoretical "Radar Spotting in" indicator would appear if a Radar IS active • Added Submarine Spawn location (Credit to TTaro_ check video description) • Added Submarine Minimap Ping Locator Mod (Credit to TTaro_ check video description) 10/14 • @dzello pointed out that submarine splash damage hitbox comes from the shells, not the submarine. • 25:54 shows airstrike ASW shatters when landing on submarine's hulll. This is patched, now it will immediately blow up like HE and deal full damage. 12/13 • Super Submarines are announced on RU Server. 12/15 • Proposed changes to submarines are announced on WG stream. • Main topic is addressing Shotgunning. New planned torpedo mechanic (for submarines) will be dynamic speed and damage. Torpedoes will have slow speed & damage when it launches, then gradually gained speed & damage to their normal values. This is to make Shotgunning less effective and less exploitative, but not impossible to do. • Another proposed change to Hydrophone, they will have shorter duration (6s). The purpose is to make it more as a defensive tool and not something to be used to line up shotguns. • Heavy cruisers will all get plane ASW (except Dutch) • Some surface ships will get Submarine Surveillance consumable • Submarines will get maneuverability buffs • Possible updates to signal, upgrades, and submarine skills later down the line Full proposed changes here: worldofwarships.com/en/news/general-news/upcoming-changes-to-aircraft-carriers-and-submarines/ Side note: • U4501 has been released and its the first submarine that features Repair Party. • Also on U4501, its the only German submarine with 15s DCP. • I-54 on the Russian server will be the first Hybrid submarine. Protip: Watch in 2x speed.

[@HarunaKaiNi]

Misc. Info: • U-4501 repair party can only be used on the surface level and cannot be used on periscope or deeper • The U-4501 only have homing torpedoes, similar to British submarines • Alliance's slow torpedoes is an advantage on its own, so don't bother getting torpedo tubes modification 1 on the third upgrade slot as it would weaken the homing capability of its torpedo

[@stalinexpress]

Whats next a cv with a super heal or a brawling cv or a super richthofen with the fastest planes in the game

[@Derin7890]

​@@stalinexpressHelicarrier from Avengers 1

[@Ducky1760]

Would you do a video like this but for Carriers?

[@mq5190]

U-4501 also has a battery recharge of 2.20 units per seconds.

[@dzello]

8:50 The submarine doesn't have a splash hitbox, it's the shells that have a splash hitbox. Just like HE shells have blast radius, all shells have a submarine blast radius.

[@Yurobeat]

I see, so its the shells that carries the splash hitbox and deal damage if it contacts the sub. Thanks for the info ))

[@dzello]

@@Yurobeat Yes, notably the hitbox increases in size if the ship runs Demolition Expert. The size is also different between shells.

[@danh7411]

Different HE shells have different blast radius too, like Thunderer HE has the biggest blast radius.

[@watercannonscollaboration2281]

Yuro has blessed us with a super thorough guide, and even though I play low tiers, I still appreciate this for the content value. Watched through the whole thing and very much enjoyed it

[@PhantomSnipera]

The choice in music made this so much easier to watch/listen. Clever tricks I can't be annoyed if the music is good and upbeat. Seriously fantastic information that could help a lot of people if they bother to watch

[@andrzejbednarczyk2501]

Amazingly informative vid, no doubt a ton of work put into this. Greatly appreciated, will help me a lot when playing against subs.

[@nlb137]

I've said the same thing about hydrophone breaking the 'information balance' on spotting. I think that the discrepancy between periscope and surface spotting could use work as well. Overall subs can spot you multiple different ways, but the only thing you learn is "spotted" and sometimes not even that, while every other class gives far more information when it spots you. RPF gives a "you've been RPF'd" indicator, and so should hydrophone. And you should get a different spotted indicator from a periscope depth sub than from surface spotting, just like plane spotting (or hydro/radar with mods). If ship-based depth charges cleared pings in an area (or even if the 'line' from the torp to the target was through the splash), things would be a little more balanced; ships with surface DCs would be the more defensive version. And DDs could defend their allies even if they can't push the sub by dropping DCs to disrupt homing. Might have to increase ping cooldown so it can't be instantly reapplied... but that'd probably be good for balance anyway.

[@Yurobeat]

That's actually a good idea. Negating Sonar pings by dropping ASW. Like dropping chaff to avoid heat seeking missile. I mean ASW were free to use already anyway, so why not implement them as defensive measure. I hope WG took note of this (doubt) it will atleast give DD/Cruisers more chance at dodging.

[@werrkowalski2985]

@@Yurobeat You meant flares, not chaff.

[@StarkRaven59]

@@werrkowalski2985 Chaff works on radar guided missiles, it's close enough to excuse.

[@wack6692]

@@StarkRaven59chaff doesn’t even work on fox 1s it’s the radar itself not missile

[@OriginalXVeris]

For the Hydrophone, the bare minimum WG could do to notify players that are within range of it is the "Located" thing you get when in range of a ship with the Radio Locator perk.

[@dzello]

Then it would be stupid for submarines to use it.

[@Yurobeat]

@@dzello Which is great because it gives the submarine a choice IMO.

[@dzello]

@@Yurobeat There'd be no choice, it would be dumb to use it. Stealth is superior so you'd stay hidden to spot. Same scenario, just reversed.

[@play030]

@@dzello Yes, it would be stupid.

[@p_serdiuk]

That's too wildly "unrealistic" tho, I mean I literally cannot think of _any_ deus ex machina gizmo that would alert me to being listened to even in the modern world.

[@witoldgabara513]

"Kills faster,more humane" this is Peacefull Nobel prize of 2023

[@Con9359]

1 hour ebola tutorial... Interesting data for sure.

[@ВладПономаренко-ф3н]

Don't get why Yuro make 1 hour guide if the game deletes in 1 min.

[@mertcandenli3313]

I didnt know hydrophone mechanic in subs and I have 60% Wr at cachalot

[@thexlonewolf671]

The thing to remember about sonar is that it is a highly situational tool. While it can guarantee you hit a target, using it is basically the equivalent of shining a flashlight into a dark room. Sure, you may see what you’re trying to hit, but everyone else will be able to see you. The best way to use sonar in this game, to borrow a quote from hunt for Red October, is “one ping only, Vasily.”

[@mcbrite]

Amazing vid! Only thing you missed: You should also periscope or even dive, if the enemy CV's squadron is about to spot you... Especially in the beginning of the game that can reveal your vector/plan and screw up your ENTIRE round from then on! - Resurface as soon as possible to refill the the battery to 100% before main engagement begins...

[@Yurobeat]

I have addressed this at 47:22 , though briefly. Either you missed it, or it should've been something I put submarine tactics segments kek

[@mcbrite]

@@Yurobeat Oh yeah! Still, main takeaway: Amazing video!

[@YurraSickPark]

Note for torpedo homing: they have a fixed turn rate of 2.5° per second for a single pinged torp, and 5° per second for a double pinged torp. Also, the torpedo homes in on the side of the ship closest to the torpedo, not the middle of the pinged section, which enables you to abuse it while dodging.

[@CorsairCombat13]

I dont know what other topics require this much depth but I did like this longer style of video as more diversity to the content. Amazing video

[@moso9420]

Thanks, Yuro! I am guiding my friend to play WOWS recently, I have trouble understanding sub mechanics even I have been a 7-yr-player. You have helped me a lot. Salute!

[@noahjones7986]

If radar works through mountains, hydro should spot subs at all depths

[@gregcavender7798]

One of the best tutorials I've ever seen. Watched it all the way thru and will watch many parts again, I'm sure.

[@henryherold4515]

Thank you so much. I've been struggling on both sides of submarines, so this is exactly what I needed.

[@038alpha]

Just want to add that when you go maximum depth, it incresease the time an asw grenade is sinking to hit you, giving you slightly more time to manoever

[@baymax1126]

I learned how to play Atago on your channel. It became my go to in t8 ranks and if I just want to have fun. from having 48%WR with Atago, Now I sit on 58% WR. And now I can say, after watching this, I doing decent with subs and starting to see the end of battles. THANK YOU!

[@chronoserpent]

Great guide Yuro, both for submarines and how to counter them. I'm starting to play them to understand them better and this helps a lot.

[@alphax4785]

Great in depth guide, I'll second the motion that the music really helps in keeping it from being too dry but also doesn't become ear bleeding.

[@jarrelsixtytwo3993]

Wow - I stopped playing WOWS for years due to subs and I just learned more in the first 12 minutes of this video than I knew previously! I'll return again to complete more segments of this video!

[@kermutschannel1284]

You didn't really mention it, but it can be fun at the beginning of a match to go to submerged depth, pop hydrophone, and ping the red sub at periscope depth. Easy way to force them to use a DCP and it doesn't usually result in you taking a ASW strike

[@Yurobeat]

I occasionally do this when I have gut feeling that enemy sub is a dumbo. Bonus point if he didn't do it and died to homing torp ))

[@octaviusmorlock]

Thank you for the guide! I would like to note something about homing: If you give them a large lead on an enemy vessel, they'll home in better. So yes: shoot wide, and hit dead on.

[@LJKGray]

I used to not play Wows much but when I did, I got ~65% win rate with these ships and with my average ~51% winrate overrall, that is enough to show how powerful ss are.

[@debbaasseerr]

Watched because Yuro is always informative and entertaining, but I'm glad I went and watched through the entire thing. Up to this point my attitude was to hold off on getting any subs until acquiring most everything else in the game. After seeing the full breakdown, I'm interested in trying them, both to better understand countering them and to just try them out. So Thanks!

[@mrtspence]

This was unbelievably informative and useful. Incredibly well-made. They should link to these in the game itself as an official resource. Thanks so much!

[@greyed]

The only information missing, really, is the ASW splash ranges. This is important for both the sub to know, and the ASW to know. As all ASW is not created equal. This is, in part, why people think ships with ship-based ASW are far worse than plane-based ASW. Plane-based ASW has a splash radius of 350m. Ship-based ASW has a splash radius of 800m. The randomness of the ping arc indicator is that it shows up ~1km of the sub's true position. Those ranges are good to know because it points to two major things. 1. You have to be spot on with the plane-based ASW. Sure, you can reach out 11km on some BBs, but you have a 350m radius, a 10s lead time, and the ping indicator has a margin of error 3x larger than your splash radius. Because of this you want to spread out your plane-based ASW and not bunch it all up in the same location. 2. ship-based ASW can be launched much sooner than most people give it credit for. They'll hold rolling charges until they are right overhead. No need, roll early because you have nearly a KM splash radius to work with! Not only that but most ship-based ASW recharges in about the same time it takes to roll 1 pattern. Finally, along with the above, is the other note I didn't see in the video. As the sub the ASW has two colors. ASW that is orange won't do damage. ASW that is red will.

[@Godl1ked]

Gentlemen. Been away for 4 years, I have. Imagine my joy seeing this channel full packed with new videos. AAAaaaaaaaaAAAAAAaaaaa.

[@Soutakun1]

I feel asleep while watching this but turns out i have played this video for over 3 hours straight. still, this is some good guide.. 10/10 would watch it and share it with my grandchild.. if i had one

[@mdtaseen8781]

gets suggested by a friend to watch a part of this video.* starts to watch this video at 2 am* bursts in to laughter* end up watching the full video* instantly liked and subscribed after finishing the video*

[@HarunaKaiNi]

I'm a natural sub by nature This video is the call for me to play more submarines Also happy one year anniversary to subs in the game, and thank you for having me again yurpo

[@Weatherman_Ace]

Fishing for a sub foot long.

[@thelettery6]

Being a coral reef must be difficult, those torpedoes must of felt good though

[@ngnear50]

Would love more guides from you! This was really informative

[@majnjord]

Great job on the video - informative and still entertaining! Absolutely no issue with the length and skipping on jokes, and I'd gladly see more of these one-stop guides. Haven't played a single sub game yet but will probably have to try now, thanks to your guide. :)

[@AverageFornaxEnjoyer]

Thanks, Yuro! My Dad came back after watching this.

[@corvetterules8047]

I would love to see more videos like these from you that cover other aspects of the game, such as other classes, or even general what-to-do's

[@cagangurer]

Thank you for this unbelieavably helpful video! Simply amazing

[@Daibakufu]

First of all, thanks for your honest opinion and the effort to make this guide for all of us. I'm a sub-hater as many of players and this video show some interesting knowledge about the issue and a beter understanding of the class. I probably does not change mi opinion about subs, but is always better know your enemy that only complain about him. Again, thanks Yuro, from a fellow CC.

[@Jargolf86]

Thank you very much @Yurobeat for this Excellent Guide! As a Player since early Access Beta, Surface Ships are no Mystery to me, but U-Boats were UFOs. I am sure i understand these now much much better! =)

[@gordongekko4752]

As always. The best shorts, how to play, guides and plays of any KZbin World of Warships influencer!

[@foxykaruptsock3213]

great guide , I enjoyed it so much I didnt even notice it was nearly an hour long....well done !

[@legatusalpina7081]

i don't care what is about the video; one hour video from yuro ? i'm diving in ! thank you for your work/time and the quality of it. What a day, i appreciate. Thank you o7

[@antonygray7092]

ive watched all replays, guides etc, but this is the best by far. remember, enemy sub spawns OPPOSITE your sub, so 90% chance you WILL meet enemy sub. Then, 99% chance ENEMY FIRE SUPPORT FOR SUB, IS BETTER THAN YOUR TEAMS ..."support:....yeah.....bout that wg....

[@shilombaba]

Congratulations and thanks for the effort and work put into this video. I'm part of the minority who doesn't suffer at all from 95% of subs, they are easy kills in my books, so I'm glad you try to educate the masses (Altho, unlike torps that have been spotted for an hour already, I'm sure the masses will manage to dodge a 1 hour video) AND I myself have managed to learn a thing or two.

[@kingjulian420]

Said the GK on the 1 line

[@StarkRaven59]

Thanks for taking the time to explain the new Cold Waters update.

[@lame_o_nade]

We need an entire series of these covering all ship classes

[@iron8586]

5:55 the segment about "not charging on the surface" was actually not intended (or they changed their mind) and it charges on the surface now, even when active. It's the first bullet point under the "Other Changes and Improvements" section of the 12.9 NA patch notes

[@Yurobeat]

Ah I missed the patchnote. Well in fairness, when I were using the consumable I wouldn't surface anyway lmao.

[@herrhaber9076]

Very good guide. Unsurprisingly KZbin's other suggestions are PQ videos. This one is as good as his old content. Thank you for that Yuro :)

[@stevemc01]

When I first got the shell-swapper skill, I thought it was a useful little perk to have for Montana. ...after subs were added, it was my last lifeline. And holy hell does it help.

[@ariffetorlase9783]

i love how this video points out the biggest in-game flaw with submarines: if they want you dead, you do not truly have the tools to stop them from killing you.

[@elbirri]

can't believe i saw all, 1 hr viewed this info is gold enough to say the devs must put this in the game. thx a lot

[@chaoschaos-oy7qo]

I almost always skip tts videos after about 30 seconds, watched all of this though, excellent work dude 👏 👌 .

[@Mrperson1233]

17:48 before i watched that part i spammed submarine surveillance whenver i saw the in detection range effect (you just saved me thousands of submarine surveilances bro)

[@memph1ston]

As a newer player (I played the beta, dropped the game, then came back because I wanted a relaxing shooter type game), I was baffled by people saying Submarines were OP. They felt (and still do feel) much more fair than carriers do. I liked this video a lot! :)

[@Straswa]

Great vid Yuro, I learned alot; please do another guide like this. Now I'm tempted to give submarines a chance. Also I now have a better idea how to counter submarines in my Trento.

[@Achronelius]

This Video is really underrated, the point is that this is in my opinion the best explained sub Video in the Internet. It’s just funny that the meme Video with (406 mm go bang) is the most viewed Video XD and not Videos like that with overall great everything when it goes to the topic of WoWS…that’s the modern Internet I guess^^…

[@BigTLord01]

Best guide video by far. Definitely learned some things from this which should be helpful

[@Lexekon]

I completely approve of this video as objectively useful in learning about subs. Admittedly, with the recent changes this video is obsolete in parts, but the sub speed above 40 is fiction without the Sierra Mike flag, UNLESS we include the steel ship Gato. These relatively high surface speeds are unique to the Salmon and Gato, and currently the Salmon only passes 40 WITH the Sierra Mike flag. All other subs are significantly slower.

[@serve_xt4298]

Shotgunning is not more popular because sitting in your face pinging is easier but every few matches you'll see someone, no matter the class, getting the fun treatement anyway. I also like the spotting part where basically says the submarines have all the advantage and chances are that your gameplay is over for most of the game cuz of it. This is a very good video, precisely why I don't like it, because teaching people how to play submarines is the last thing I need.

[@Checklist_STT]

Great breakdown. What I would like to see for subs in the future: Removal of homing torpedoes and active ping, large damage buff to sub dumb torpedoes but add a longer activation range. Change hydro to be a minimap line of bearing + ship class (no pinpoint location) only visible to you while at periscope depth or lower.

[@Yurobeat]

This would just promotes shotgunning, not sure if the community wants that. The damage buff may even be dangerous to DDs. Hydro change can be considered, but again it has to work on either direction.

[@_Jay_Maker_]

This guide rules. Ramius would be proud.

[@eastyorkie1972]

Even if you don't like submarines, this video deserves more likes..

[@YouvBeenThumped]

I love the normal Content... But getting an actual Guide is an amazing choice! If only we got a series lol

[@martyrudd5385]

If you want those changes I would say to "balance that" the air strike ability has to have a traverse. You were on point with how effective it is against a sub in a bad position.

[@richarddyson4380]

Great video Yuro! Not too long for me, as I took your suggestion to take a break and had dinner 🙂. I really enjoyed the breadth and depth of your analysis, as I have avoided playing these boats (same for CVs). Having a better understanding of their mechanics, strengths and weaknesses without having to play them was wonderful. As always, thank you for putting in the effort to produce such a quality and entertaining video.

[@deadlynadder2235]

Thank you for this Yuro, I really enjoyed it, and will play subs now!

[@kotsiosx7945]

Watched it twice. Very informative and entertaining at the same time Well done buddy and thank you

[@VivaMexico21]

Haha I have good attention span apparently 😂 Great video Yuro 👍🏼 very helpful I’d recommend all players new and old to watch this!

[@kangaroo4024]

It's not just the art department carrying the game, it's also Yuro!

[@emptywhite1623]

Now I need this guide for the other classes, hopefully this will become a series

[@littletommy4250]

Thanks for the video Yuro i watched the whole video i have start playing submarine few years back until the update 0.11.9 when T6-T8 US and german subs was here to stay so i became a sub main and a little bit of Battleships too i enjoy the Yamato and the Hannover but my most enjoyed subs will be the U-2501, U-4501, I-56 and S-189 because that cheeky breeky russian sub was the most difficult to deal with at the update of 0.11.9 and the fastest sub at it's time being at that update! so i found this video to be very helpful for me as a sub veteran :3 keep up your good work Yuro. much love from Finland!

[@slaphappy8246]

useful video! anyone who played sub knows its a challenge. CVs are still gods hands

[@TheGiggityG]

Subscribed. 1st video and l have to watch it twice. Well done!2x would drive me to drink.

[@457mm.stalinium]

So Diwali has come early, Yuro Uploaded today👀👀💓

[@TomSarh]

Came for the guide, stayed for the music Good job on the music choice Yuro (the video is good too) :))

[@michaelbizon444]

Kick ass sub guide! Thank you Buddy!

[@daniellinares5983]

Aquí los hispanos fans de Yuro, Thanks for the guide, I needed it in life :) ❤

[@rakura]

This was so helpful, thank you watched the whole thing.

[@mindclaw915]

best video on subs ive ever seen

[@guohongli5727]

Yuro hath blessed us with another video! Thank you so much man, subs have been in dev hell for so long that all the guides are outdated.

[@Zelectrocutica]

People bitching about subs but they completely forgot about CVs... I find it funny.

[@helsreach8954]

YOU DONT KNOW HOW MUCH I NEED THIS

[@bollwerk7683]

Thanks for the great Video. Watched it entirely. Many great things to learn here. Keep growing!

[@theamazingmikej]

Still think the addition of submarines was a mistake but I will throw you a like for taking the time to make this

[@Fumoffu78]

Thx 4 this guide! It is very good and informative.

[@aaronho1914]

With this amazing knowlege you have empowered me to roleplay as a sacabambaspis in world of warships

[@lennhsu]

Well you basically said sub is op as long as used correctly without saying sub is op. If the surface ships have to counter sub by keeping distance and running away, playing passively, then it means sub has the clear upper hand in engagement.

[@Mobius118F]

The Silent hunters. As a Sub player thanks and well done.

[@polak09876543211]

Yuro my beloved uploading vid teaching me how to grief ppl more effectively.

[@8RedBear5]

It was a very informative video that I watch straight through. Sadly I haven't play games of WoWs since early this year, save for grinding out the birthday containers in Coop. I think it was the combination of Carriers, Hybrid Cvs, ships with air strikes, submarines and just a general disgust with the actions of WG. The burn out from WoWs was so bad I rarely play any other games.

[@ahawk5056]

come to yuro video for the funny, instead get one of the most informative videos i've seen for wows ever, and still get the funny. well done dude. 👍

[@LudensP]

Thanks very much for this neutral and informative take on the topic. I don't recall seeing such a complete overview, and it definitely corrected some of my misconceptions. I still don't like their addition to the game, but this should make their more tolerable.

[@nightwingzero8905]

I just got back at WoWs, boy this guide is a godsend, thanks yuro, time to be a silent hunter >:]

[@jjcastleberry3662]

Thank you for this informative video. I also created print "screens" of skills and the Good/Bad players to refer too.

[@wazdalos]

Great video! The only thing that slightly annoyed me was that we can not see the current health bar or the damage you took from engagements, which would have provided some good context to the situations you were in :)

[@Capt_Mortis]

Nice to know some tricks against them now. And got some knowledge to try them in the future again. But in the end i will stick to my BBs, CAs, and CVs. Good vid.👍

[@Taorakis]

Thank you for the great guide!

[@KapitanPoop]

BRAVO! one stop for everything u need to know!

[@freshmaze9297]

I watched the entire video and you make a lot of good points now i know what to do and not do thanks man good work on the video

[@jayceedee5807]

My first thought when I saw this was like, "oh, useful stuff" but then after 10 seconds i went back to the Grossdeutschland video, hit loop, and queued up in brawls with a Schlieffen. :shrug: