Compressing Woodgas for future use.

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Engineer775

Engineer775

10 жыл бұрын

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A video on compressing woodgas for later use. Experimenting with compressing woodgas for cooking. Imagine being able to store enough gas to get you through a season of cooking. you will need large tanks to do this effectively.
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@TIMLASHLEY
@TIMLASHLEY 7 жыл бұрын
sorry my friend couldn't hear anything you said
@GetMeThere1
@GetMeThere1 5 жыл бұрын
I could hear it. He was saying " blah mmaamamahahhmma blah manaumm"
@thewingedpotato6463
@thewingedpotato6463 4 жыл бұрын
*BRABRBABARBARBARBBRABRVRVBARBAVBRAVBARVBARVBARVBARVBARBV* WHAT DID YOU SAY?!!? *BRABRBABARBARBARBBRABRVRVBARBAVBRAVBARVBARVBARVBARVBARBV* *BRABRBABARBARBARBBRABRVRVBARBAVBRAVBARVBARVBARVBARVBARBV*
@kaineleggett3401
@kaineleggett3401 3 жыл бұрын
WHAT!!!!!!
@jimcrawford3185
@jimcrawford3185 2 жыл бұрын
Huh?
@ralphjansen9205
@ralphjansen9205 Жыл бұрын
Pardon , what did you say?
@claybornlewis276
@claybornlewis276 4 жыл бұрын
When you can't see the gas burning you've got the purest gas you can get excellent job
@getmeoutofsanfrancisco9917
@getmeoutofsanfrancisco9917 3 жыл бұрын
He's got an compact industrial gasifier for sure. The problems with those DIY ones you see on KZbin everywhere is that the filtration steps and efficiency is lacking. If one lived in a highly wooded area, something like this would be perfect for SHTF. Quite a few lumber mills and farms actually run their operation off of gasifier based-power which powers their entire operation + workers who live on site. Pretty neat.
@EnriqueSonora
@EnriqueSonora 10 жыл бұрын
Looks like this is an excellent solution for sustainability. Thanks for the tip. this makes the wood gassifier a good option.
@tberry7348
@tberry7348 8 жыл бұрын
most of this video I can't hear a word your saying. consider removing the video audio and recording a replacement audio without all the background noise.
@blueschild61
@blueschild61 6 жыл бұрын
I have a sneaking suspicion that this guy has no eyebrows.
@basiliobastardo255
@basiliobastardo255 3 жыл бұрын
or have burnt beard..
@jj01a
@jj01a 10 жыл бұрын
This has been a long term goal of mine thanks for sharing. exactly the setup for my eu2000 and 5k gen set
@roachblade
@roachblade 10 жыл бұрын
Beat me by a week, I have a similar setup but I added a couple of extras, my 9kg LPG bottle is immersed in a steel water tank approx 4m2, adds a bit of cooling but the main reason was if it goes pop the water takes the impact and you just get wet instead of standing beside a 9kg grenade. I also have a small water bubbler post compresser for a flashback arrestor(maybe I'm just chicken-your's didn't blow). Ran out of time to run the gasifier last week. Will let you know if I encounter anything along the way.
@MittyNuke1
@MittyNuke1 4 жыл бұрын
That's smart because it also cools the compressed gas, compressing gas will heat it up a lot so by cooling it you're making it safer as well as the flash back arrestor. Cool setup. Also for the propane tank water bath, if you are using the tank for propane, you could use a pump to circulate the water through a heater to heat the propane if you run into problems with it freezing up (only applies to propane since it's stored as a liquid). Very cool setup, I like the idea of using what's around you vs importing energy!
@CZGHEIB954
@CZGHEIB954 2 жыл бұрын
Hey man, I love you reply. Have you made a video showing your gasifier? I'd love to see the setup.
@OhioPrepperOne
@OhioPrepperOne 10 жыл бұрын
As usual, you are on the cutting edge, way to go Scott!
@ushillbillies
@ushillbillies 2 жыл бұрын
he's about a hundered years behind
@RenaissanceThinking
@RenaissanceThinking Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to have you revisit this technology after the years and see where we are at. These and ram pumps is what brought me to your channel all those years ago.
@istp1967
@istp1967 6 ай бұрын
Great for running my gas stove and hot water and heater -- well done!! 😁👍
@maineiachomestead7550
@maineiachomestead7550 10 жыл бұрын
I've seen a similar experiment before, very cool. I would like to find out if one could use a HP compressor and HP vessels for longer run times in a vehicle, etc. It just seems to be a simpler set up as opposed to having a gasifier on everything, car, truck, tractor, etc. The local community would also benefit from this as well and the infrastructure wouldn't be too complicated for a municipality to set up....I think.
@ymarb7085
@ymarb7085 2 жыл бұрын
HEAR HEAR! I concur AND second!
@homesteadprepper
@homesteadprepper 10 жыл бұрын
Most excellent! Thank you so much for always sharing the way cool side of prepping.
@wyattoneable
@wyattoneable 10 жыл бұрын
What a cool idea and a great experiment. Thanks for that one. I enjoyed it.
@onewyatt1
@onewyatt1 9 жыл бұрын
Very nice gasifier. I am starting to think it smart to incorporate a storage tank on my system. Put my project on hold for a bit but I am soon going to start on it again. I have a lot of people waiting on new video updates and health is getting better so maybe I will be on it again shortly. Thanks for posting, I needed a little motivation.
@WillowsGarden
@WillowsGarden 10 жыл бұрын
That is awesome, what a great way to save on propane, make your own gas! Scott, this was a great comparison too!
@sixtyfiveford
@sixtyfiveford 10 жыл бұрын
Very neat. I'm assuming wood gas doesn't liquify like LPG when compressed so your limited to just air volume of the tank?
@jchoneandonly
@jchoneandonly 3 жыл бұрын
That depends on how hard you can compress it. If you get the pressure high enough it'll liquify. Otherwise it'll just pack in until your compressor can't push it
@leeknivek
@leeknivek 2 жыл бұрын
wood gas is not just one gas, it is a mix of carbon monoxide, hydrogen, nitrogen, methane, mainly, and probably some others. those will all condense at different pressures and temperatures, and there are some significant differences in density between them. some will condense, some will remain a gas, and they will all separate into layers. the majority of the flammable gases will remain as gas, the rest will condense into some type of creosote oil, which will *not* vaporize into a gas like propane does when it's reintroduced to atmospheric pressure. what's in that propane tank is probably hydrogen and carbon monoxide, primarily, and that's a pretty volatile thing to have sitting around. much more volatile than a can of gasoline or a tank of propane. carbon monoxide is deadly, and hydrogen gas is highly flammable.
@IdahoDualSport
@IdahoDualSport 10 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a series on how all this works and maybe a DIY woodgas generator/compressor setup?
@urgentcareguy3
@urgentcareguy3 10 жыл бұрын
Id be squinting like a bomb squad guy the entire time lol
@johngodwin7902
@johngodwin7902 10 жыл бұрын
That is amazing. Thanks for these cool video's
@JohnClarksc
@JohnClarksc 10 жыл бұрын
Are you purging the tank with an inert gas first? Furthermore how much O2 is being compressed with your wood gas? It would be very easy to create a flammable or explosive mixture in a tank containing air. I suppose once you put enough wood gas in the tank you create a rich mix that cant burn. I would be concerned about the intervening time between the LEL and the UEL, during that period you are merely charging a crude FAE. I would try to cool the gas post compression and keep the tank as cold as possible. Perhaps a orsat or a fyrite would give you a O2 reading on your wood gas?
@KingSlimjeezy
@KingSlimjeezy 5 жыл бұрын
thats a nice looking setup, good job. While my first foray into syngas will probably look like an avant gard trash to art project, its nice to have a standard to aspire to
@mog5858
@mog5858 10 жыл бұрын
great info love the idea keep up the good work
@OgMandin0
@OgMandin0 10 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate your work! I know you *KNOW* WHAT YOU'RE DOING. I am not a worry wart by nature. Have dealt w/ LPG. Even refill my own "disposable" LP tanks. But something about this process makes me think *BOMB!!!* Keep a cell phone with you when working on this alone!!! Ipray you have an extraordinarily *BLESSED* day!
@EARTHLING74000
@EARTHLING74000 10 жыл бұрын
THE CELL PHONE COULD CAUSE THE SPARK!
@firebird77clonefirebird89
@firebird77clonefirebird89 Жыл бұрын
Really? How does a cellphone spark, exactly?
@AD4MRick
@AD4MRick 10 жыл бұрын
That, is so cool!! Great video.
@danielschultz7181
@danielschultz7181 10 жыл бұрын
That is just too awesome. I have thought about this more than once!
@engineer775
@engineer775 10 жыл бұрын
Me too. I just had to do it.
@danielschultz7181
@danielschultz7181 10 жыл бұрын
engineer775 Practical Preppers out of curiosity.....how did it compare to the propane as far as duration? were you able to get enough into the bottle to run as long as the propane? I assume a lot less run time for cooking and such but you never know. I thought i would ask. Either way this is just too cool.
@SpencerLAPower
@SpencerLAPower 10 жыл бұрын
Your video turned out a lot better than mine good job.
@brodyjoe50
@brodyjoe50 10 жыл бұрын
This is really awesome, If you could hook this up to a large propaine tank one that goes to a house. You could say run that compressor a couple of times a year to fill your tank. That would be way better all the way around.
@lanceroark6386
@lanceroark6386 5 жыл бұрын
You sir, are amazing!
@aletoledo1
@aletoledo1 10 жыл бұрын
This is what I've always had a problem understanding about storage. This really adds a whole new dimension to gassification. Thanks.
@townsend351
@townsend351 10 жыл бұрын
Great video! I wonder what psi it would take to liquefy wood gas? Also wonder if the propane cylinder was packed in dry ice while filling if one could achieve liquefied wood gas with a standard 120 psi home compressor.
@rebeljames5520
@rebeljames5520 10 жыл бұрын
Great video thanks for posting it
@EaglePrepper
@EaglePrepper 10 жыл бұрын
When you compressed 90psi in the grill tank, what was the run time or what amount of gas did you have compared to propane? Also, What compressor did you use? A regular air compressor gets pretty warm after a extended run time. Would that be a risk for gas ignition? I am concerned about an exploding compressor. I looked on the victory gasworks site and only saw a 5k and 3k grid tie gasifier. It was nothing like yours. What is the size of yours? Thanks for your response in advance.
@engineer775
@engineer775 10 жыл бұрын
A video on compressing woodgas for later use. Experimenting with compressing woodgas for cooking. Imagine being able to store enough gas to get you through a season of cooking. you will need large tanks to do this effectively. practicalpreppers.com/online-shop/power-solutions/gasifier-detail-view practicalpreppers.com/online-shop/power-solutions/the-l-e-a-f-wood-gasifier-detail-view #practprep #Woodgas
@TheAnantaSesa
@TheAnantaSesa 7 жыл бұрын
404 on both links. Just a general off grid site now.
@stevengrotte2987
@stevengrotte2987 7 жыл бұрын
As in the large propane tanks that I often see in back yards.
@TheAnantaSesa
@TheAnantaSesa 7 жыл бұрын
wonder if salvage gasoline tanks might work if they get sealed well.
@ellasenewsiesystemand306
@ellasenewsiesystemand306 7 жыл бұрын
engineer775 Practical Preppers
@hannamand
@hannamand 7 жыл бұрын
Probably not. Think air compressor. You pump them up to about 120psi... so most likely they won't hold shape, and would eventually rupture. I don't think they would explode or anything. Around here (DFW, TX) a used 500 gallon propane tank sells for about $250-$300... if you have a way of getting it home it would probably be the way to go, if not, small propane tanks.
@donovannorris9837
@donovannorris9837 2 жыл бұрын
Have you updated your compressor system yet? Are you still compressing the gas into tanks? If so, how high of pressure in tanks have you been able to achieve?
@Iam1uglyguy
@Iam1uglyguy 10 жыл бұрын
Thats awesome!
@engineer775
@engineer775 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@urgentcareguy3
@urgentcareguy3 10 жыл бұрын
Thank u for your replies. You have very informative videos that make me jealous : ) I got my bowl of popcorn, fill up some more tanks ; )
@pinemeadowshobbyfarmafruga8319
@pinemeadowshobbyfarmafruga8319 9 жыл бұрын
No regulator? Do you have your propane tank's valve fully open? Is there a way to extend run on your generator by regulating the gas flow? Just curious. I am getting ready to build a gasifier and have several out-of-date propane bottles on hand to use for storage of compressed wood gas. Interesting!
@ChileExpatFamily
@ChileExpatFamily 10 жыл бұрын
Scott I really liked this video. It makes wood gas more practical for me. I am a little worried about compression ignition in the compressor. How is this avoided?
@kevinfinney8849
@kevinfinney8849 10 жыл бұрын
Great work, is the gasifier your design? If so would you be willing to sell plans? Keep up the good work, you inspire a lot of thought!
@BCElginTex
@BCElginTex 10 жыл бұрын
I was just wondering, the other day, if wood gas could be compressed. Thanks for proving this.
@BCElginTex
@BCElginTex 10 жыл бұрын
Oh, another thing I was wondering is, if wood gas can be compressed (which you proved can be done), what kind of shelf life would it have.
@engineer775
@engineer775 10 жыл бұрын
BC ElginTex All excellent questions to which I hope to find an answer. There is a lot of speculation around. Langstons Alternative Power has been experimenting with this too. We don't have enough history with it yet.
@syreetacomeau6629
@syreetacomeau6629 10 жыл бұрын
BC ElginTex if you consider woodgas to be hydrogen (its most volatile compound) then it will have the same shelf life of stored hydrogen in a propane tank, if you take the same precotions as hydrogen storage then presumably you could run off of woodgas from the cold war
@BCElginTex
@BCElginTex 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Scott. Do you still have this stored? Does it still burn as efficiently as three years ago?
@05generic
@05generic 10 жыл бұрын
That is so cool!
@hannamand
@hannamand 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the side by side propane/wood gas comparison. I've been thinking of using wood gas as a replacement for propane for household use (I have a lot of waste wood, so if I can use it to replace my propane bill... great!) Question: How are you producing the gas? My thought is that a stratified downdraft gassifier adds air to the mixture, which would contribute to the BTU loss. If you're making it in a sealed container (search for charcoal refractory) might get more energy per cuft of gas? Also, in the video it seems like the propane is coming out at a higher pressure... When Liquid propane turns to a gas, it's at about 110-120 psi, and then it gets regulated down, but you have a consistent 115~ PSI. With compressing gas, you start out at 115~ PSI, and it drops from there. In the case of my propane tankless water heater that might not be a problem, the propane gets stepped down in pressure from 115~ to ~11psi, and then down to 11wc (less than 1/2 psi). From what I've read online Gas grills run 20 - 30 psi... food for thought. Thanks for the video!
@beartankoperator7950
@beartankoperator7950 3 жыл бұрын
i agree the propane seems to be at a significantly higher pressure, also the burners used could be better designed for the fuel
@dan9372
@dan9372 2 жыл бұрын
This is what you have, this is what you would have to buy! What do you think Skippy?
@mazdalorean
@mazdalorean 10 жыл бұрын
I also love the gasification videos. I was just wondering , how long will the propane tank run the burner and the generator for? I always see people run engines on wood, but wouldn't it be cool to see an aircraft run on wood? Or even an entire wood processing plant that runs on wood? In your opinion , is there enough energy in wood to run a wood processing plant , and still end up with a surpluss of stored wood fuel for the gasifier?
@firebird77clonefirebird89
@firebird77clonefirebird89 Жыл бұрын
A sawmill has an INCREDIBLE amount of waste so I think yes.
@anonymousandy2789
@anonymousandy2789 Жыл бұрын
@@firebird77clonefirebird89 can the sawdust produced from the local sawmill be used to make charcoal intended for activation
@lesleefreeman9176
@lesleefreeman9176 7 жыл бұрын
the big mistake all of these guys are making is they are not pulling a vacuum on the tanks before filling, one need s a set of ac gauges and a vacuum pump harbor freight has both at a low price and would be ok for this application, to be fully evacuated one should pull a vacuum then let gas in and pull a 2nd vacuum before filling
@aaronhall555
@aaronhall555 7 жыл бұрын
Leslee Freeman of don't see much of a problem with just compressing the woodgas as long as the tank hasn't sit open while empty for too long, since it should have no O2 in the tank when it runs out propane, once you start to refill with woodgas what ever was last in the the tank just mixes. Therefore negligible amount of propane mixed with woodgas should not be a problem as long as no O2 makes it in. This seems pretty safe with an experienced woodgas operator, skilled at producing consistent quality gas, and proper safety procedures. If anything, pulling a vacuum before refilling sounds like more chance to pull O2 in to the tank. What do you think?
@clayq220
@clayq220 7 жыл бұрын
aaronhall555 could a flashback arrestor be used and/or be practical if i were to use it. Being that i am not an experienced by any means and am cautious.
@questionsquestion6476
@questionsquestion6476 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Leslee you seem to be knowledgeable about the wood gas storage please advise me on how to store it in a propane tank and how long can it last and the best method to make sure it doesn't leak I want to store it for small commercial purpose thanks
@nemesis1292
@nemesis1292 5 жыл бұрын
Why don't you make a video to educate us ?
@barryo9065
@barryo9065 5 жыл бұрын
@@sarchlalaith8836 The point is about safety. Evacuating gets rid of oxygen in the tank. If not you're creating an Oxy/Gas Bomb
@withwingsaseagleeyes
@withwingsaseagleeyes 7 жыл бұрын
Greetings, I really love the ideas I see on many channels about this type of gas. I first seen on Mr. Teslonian's channel about using wood to get gas from. How about seeing how Hemp would work since that is one of its uses of the thousands of uses. :D
@gregoryhupp4118
@gregoryhupp4118 5 жыл бұрын
I want to experiment with alternatives, hemp, giant ragweed, even cornstalks. I theorize that if it can burn to carbon, heat, and CO gas, it would work. wood being more dense makes it the better fuel. I'm still in the process of design and build though.
@samuelmullen5823
@samuelmullen5823 2 жыл бұрын
@babysquirrels you can make homemade cement with ash from corn waste? Interesting🤔 I know fly ash from coal burning can be added to concrete; I know it makes it stronger and I think you can use more fly ash and less cement to make concrete
@attpureownpk
@attpureownpk 10 жыл бұрын
can you do a voice over or something id love to be able to understand it thanks!
@claybornlewis276
@claybornlewis276 3 жыл бұрын
I've watched people build these and they think they got good gas because it's burning the flame is just as red as can be so they run their generator it runs fine till they shut it off and it cools down and then all the sap that's in there locks the motor up screws up the valves the cleaner it is the less you can see it you've got pure nice gas if you filled a thousand gallon tank with that machine you could run a generator for a long time but the power went out you could heat a house for a few months the possibilities are endless when you've got such pure gas nice job good build
@greymanzink6118
@greymanzink6118 10 жыл бұрын
What kind of octane rating could you expect from wood gas? If I remember correctly propane is roughly 116 octane. Just trying to see the feasibility of running compressed w.g. in a vehicle built for LNG or LP .
@jonnycastillo1820
@jonnycastillo1820 8 жыл бұрын
wow... great invention... can i ask the blueprint on how to make a compressing wood gas..
@MrItsfivetoone
@MrItsfivetoone 10 жыл бұрын
I didn't see any comment on a earlier suggestion. Would a refrigerator compressor get u the quiet , high pressures ur looking for??
@kentuckyprepper1792
@kentuckyprepper1792 10 жыл бұрын
Interesting! I've done academic research distilling in low (actually no) oxygen environments on wood (actually lignin). I'm curious if the compression, despite filtration, leads to any liquid products in your tank. Furthermore, I ponder whether or not creosotes or phenols may crystalize after cooling in the tank. That, of course, depends on how much oxidation occurs, but it has got me wondering. I've always wondered how to set up my own compression system. I have long wanted to couple water electrolysis with compression of hydrogen gas.
@joseveloso405
@joseveloso405 7 жыл бұрын
It is a good good job . Congrats nice work
@gndrfineforton8331
@gndrfineforton8331 10 жыл бұрын
On a related but unrelated subject... could you use a filter and compressor (like yours from Lowes) to compress and store methane gas, obtained from a composting tank, into a steel propane tank? I seen other videos where methane gas was put under low pressure (without the use of a compressor) for heating and cooking purposes but I've never seen it stored for future use. Any thoughts?
@TysonCapel23
@TysonCapel23 10 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thanks for sharing Scott! I've been wanting to see this done for a long time. Is the air to fuel ratio low enough that it would not explode if a spark were to occur inside the tank somehow? I will be doing this with pure hydrogen gas from a hho split cell I'm in the process of building. I'll post a video of it once everything is set up and ready to go.
@chomiksyberyjski4603
@chomiksyberyjski4603 3 жыл бұрын
great :), how many bar do you fill the bottles? and for how long does it last? best regards
@pope1856
@pope1856 10 жыл бұрын
I think the problem with storing wood gas is its energy density. The whole point of turning wood into fuel is its energy density. You can store a cord of wood and that is equaled to hundreds of gallons of gasoline. The gasoline will degrade in months where as the wood could last for years. Storing wood gas is like canned farts. I think a simple and reliable gasifier is more practical than compressing it and storing it. Plus hydrogen has the smallest atom and will leak out of anything you store it in.
@troybailey6268
@troybailey6268 7 жыл бұрын
man where can I get one of these? i seen you do a video on the leaf system could you do this with one of them? how long will one of them tanks burn in a cookstove?
@rongray4118
@rongray4118 5 жыл бұрын
Enginner775...how long will a small tank operate a generator? Excellent video! Thank You!
@MrSpankyxiv
@MrSpankyxiv 3 жыл бұрын
Can anyone tell me what the problem would be with compressing using a combination tromp/ram pump say 60 to 80 psi? seems like the perfect low teck solution especially if the gas is being used directly out of the rams gas cylinder. Cooled and compressed in water. would the contact with water make for unusable gas?
@scottembry7881
@scottembry7881 4 жыл бұрын
Have you done any more experimenting with compressing wood gas? Wondering if you filled a bladder (e.g. military fuel bladder) with the gas and then compressed in the tank would help not pull air in with the gas??
@mike97525
@mike97525 10 жыл бұрын
thats a really good idea.
@va3xto
@va3xto 10 жыл бұрын
This video, more than any other, convinces me of the viability of wood gas. Where to learn more about the chemistry, physics, and practical how-to projects?
@mo-reesespieces9066
@mo-reesespieces9066 8 жыл бұрын
I wish you could redo the video, mute the original sound and talk over the original so I could hear what you were saying. What a great idea. Thanks for sharing. Peace, Reese
@Commsprepper
@Commsprepper 10 жыл бұрын
Very cool!
@jaredrenfro7933
@jaredrenfro7933 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@dannyridley2437
@dannyridley2437 3 жыл бұрын
I want the plans for this .
@cirrusj6169
@cirrusj6169 10 жыл бұрын
excellent you save me a test on my system. I am using a different type of gasifier but the result is similar. I have been thinking of using an auto air conditioner compressor to do exactly what you are doing and in fact am working on it now. its a bit messy as the lubrication system has to be set up and i think i have it sorted,using a 3.5Hp Honder to drive it hoping to compress to 20 bar, also my neibour has 1.5 Km of 50mm pvc pipe which will connect to my place that's about 25000Lts at 10bar stored in the pipe. I have done tests on various plastics in the gas and the black heavy walled type pipe is not effected by the gas but the type1 plastic is badly effected and gets a really weird waxy surface as it starts to brake down.
@djj6067
@djj6067 3 жыл бұрын
Are there any issues with scalability of this concept that you can think of? I was thinking of doing exactly this but with a larger tank to run my 17kw gen when the power goes out etc. Safety wise, does it store as well as say nat gas or propane in this format?
@VeggiePower303
@VeggiePower303 3 жыл бұрын
How do you make sure there is no oxygen in the Wood gas? The can could turn into a bomb.
@MarkHerndon
@MarkHerndon 5 жыл бұрын
Yes! finally I see someone charging up a tank with woodgas. I really want to know how much and how long it would take to fill a big ol whole house storage tank. How long can it run a furnace, stove, and water heater? Copper tubing to preheat water around the gassifier rig to increase efficiency and reduce water heating loads?
@RustyShakleford1
@RustyShakleford1 5 жыл бұрын
Mark Herndon let me know if you have come across any run time Estimates?? Thank you
@samuelmullen5823
@samuelmullen5823 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna know too😂
@bigoldgrizzly
@bigoldgrizzly Жыл бұрын
Nobody is likely to give you an answer to that because it isn't very long at all. Back in the war when they ran vehicles on wood gas, they had the gasifier on board and had to keep adding wood if they wanted to keep going. You are probably going to get better results filling a 5 - 10 cubic yard balloon or bladder, rather than trying to compress the gas into a bottle. It takes a great deal of energy to compress gas and, surely, the whole point of wood gas production is to provide an emergency, or off grid, supply of energy., not to use up more power than you will get back from the gas. Another point is that the pressure you get back out of your gas bottle will rapidly reduce as the gas is used up making for problems with carburation or controlling gas flames, You are better off firing up the gasifier if and when you need it and using the relatively constant pressure you get delivered direct from your gasifier. To cover emergencies, you could fill a balloon or two and adjusting carb or burner jets etc. to roughly atmospheric pressure or slightly above. You do need to use a special wood gas rated balloon but even with these, there is likely to be significant gas leakage, especially hydrogen, and there are real safety risks. Far better to burn direct from the gasifier. It is a pity, but liquefaction is way, way beyond DIY capabilities and hugely expensive to set up the specialist cryogenic and compression equipment needed
@darbycrash55
@darbycrash55 10 жыл бұрын
Hey Scott, since woodgas is not compressing into a liquid at pressure like LP, whats your run time with a mid range load on a 90-120 psi tank of singas?
@kidharris
@kidharris 9 жыл бұрын
What is "singas"?....a really bad fart?
@jenn011754
@jenn011754 10 жыл бұрын
excellent!
@1NRG24Seven
@1NRG24Seven 10 жыл бұрын
Any estimates of run time for 5 gal of wood gas VS 5 gal of propane for cooking and generator?
@thomaschase1719
@thomaschase1719 5 жыл бұрын
Is the air to fuel gas mixture a 1:1 in comparison to the propane burner's rate or rather does the wood gas require a smaller size air opening for it to operate by comparison to propane [or for that matter fuel inlet orifice]. It was burning like a blown out [rusted to grief] propane burner.
@richardbeach2004
@richardbeach2004 10 жыл бұрын
I once heard that wood gas is unstable when stored as it can combine oxygen as you are compressing it. A spark with the cylinder could cause a explosion. What are your thoughts.
@kdknitro
@kdknitro 10 жыл бұрын
Out of everything you do, i still am most intrigued and interested in your wood gas experiments. Loved seeing that big generator run off this stuff and now seeing that honda run off of it. Did the honda have a propane conversion or do you just pipe it ino the fuel line?
@MittyNuke1
@MittyNuke1 4 жыл бұрын
Think he said he just piped it into the carburetor/air box. Basically replaced the air intake, which is why he added an air intake valve right off the propane tank, basically moved the carburetor (i.e., device which combines fuel and air) to the top of the propane tank vs in the engine. Fuel hose looked like it was just disconnected meaning it would allow in a small amount of additional air but most people would cap it off since it's not really doing anything in this setup.
@sherlocke9276
@sherlocke9276 Жыл бұрын
Very neat!
@davidyoungg
@davidyoungg 9 жыл бұрын
was that a standard air compressor? I'm looking for a way to compress methane an was going to use a fridge compressor but an air compressor would work too right?
@JimsEquipmentShed
@JimsEquipmentShed 10 жыл бұрын
How long will wood gas store once you have it in the tank?
@matthewlee2686
@matthewlee2686 6 жыл бұрын
you got some big money in that stainless steel set up. whats the máx psi for that propane tank?
@manhngo4275
@manhngo4275 3 жыл бұрын
can I use the air compressor to compress wood gas? Thanks
@rchopp
@rchopp 10 жыл бұрын
Very cool, in a hot kind of way..
@SkyValleyStuff
@SkyValleyStuff 5 жыл бұрын
how long will it last in the container b4 its no good
@ironhead41
@ironhead41 10 жыл бұрын
awesome.......i gotta build one now......
@engineer775
@engineer775 10 жыл бұрын
Go for it Ironhead41!
@209turtleboy
@209turtleboy 10 жыл бұрын
I like this subject, I wish I could have heard you talking before 3:40. More gasification please. Thanks
@engineer775
@engineer775 10 жыл бұрын
Sorry about the noise. My new camera really picks it up.
@felderup
@felderup 9 жыл бұрын
dubbed voiceover.
@GregJoshuaW
@GregJoshuaW 9 жыл бұрын
Now this is truly outstanding. I did not realize it was safe to compress wood gas (or I am sure biodigestor methane gas) this way. Are there any warnings you can think of?
@grayhand9676
@grayhand9676 9 жыл бұрын
You used the magic word "safe". Compression causes heating and if it heats too much it goes boom. Anything over a couple of psi is potentially dangerous. Wood gas and methane systems are fairly safe due to the low pressures. A standard compressor isn't designed for this use. I've worked around a lot of compressors and most get too hot to touch. You may get away with it but then it's a hot day so the compressor gets a few degrees hotter then all they find are your empty shoes. I was thinking about compressing methane to 5 psi just to make a generator run better but even that much scares the heck out of me.
@terminator10111
@terminator10111 8 жыл бұрын
also have u useing the used coffee crounds
@landlockedviking
@landlockedviking 10 жыл бұрын
so any ideas what a safe maximum psi is?
@findingout8688
@findingout8688 7 жыл бұрын
JUST A IDEAL WHAT IF YOU PUT A 2 POUND REGULATOR ON THE WOOD GAS?
@TheBluePepper
@TheBluePepper 8 жыл бұрын
What kind of pump were you using to fill the propane tank????
@thomaswallace3987
@thomaswallace3987 Жыл бұрын
Wondering if cold water bath would condense to liquid like refrigeration recovery from units to store more gas
@janbaker3713
@janbaker3713 3 жыл бұрын
Great job. How do you remove the smoke from the gas before compressing the gas into the bottle? Thanks.
@4315eagle
@4315eagle 3 жыл бұрын
If built properly the gasifier will burn the smoke off.
@northwestone1
@northwestone1 9 жыл бұрын
Is it possible for the compressor head to heat up enough to ignite the gas,Just wondering because i run large compressors a lot and the heads get very hot, Did not catch it on your video due to noise but how are you cooling the gas before it hits the compressor. Thanks for the video, love this stuff.
@jasonbrown7258
@jasonbrown7258 6 жыл бұрын
Are you using the same orifice with both wood and propane? Like propane and natural gas they use a different size orifice. So I'm thinking the wood gas might need a orifice of it's own size to get the best flame.
@valentinassabaliauskas913
@valentinassabaliauskas913 5 жыл бұрын
I was hoping to see how it is done but was unable to see building it
@SciotoBuckeye7
@SciotoBuckeye7 10 жыл бұрын
Have to put this in the category of: Totally Awesome!
@maineiachomestead7550
@maineiachomestead7550 10 жыл бұрын
Go BUCKS!!
@TheZZZZ01
@TheZZZZ01 9 жыл бұрын
How long does a tank of wood gas compared to propane. And also, is there a so called shelf life for this sitting in the tanks? I have heard it may break down after a while in the tanks and turn to a ash, not sure if that is a true statement or not. Very cool video
@rimka11
@rimka11 10 жыл бұрын
How much pressure do you need for the gas to liquefy ?
@barrybretz6073
@barrybretz6073 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if rubber is broken down by the gas as L.P. does in a liquid as my Mr. Buddy heater pilot tube has to be cleaned often from the residue.
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