The Computer Chronicles - Home Networking (2000)

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[@smorfnimda]

I am really glad the show uploaded these archives. You can get a basic history of computers from the beginning.

[@SomeDudeInBaltimore]

"Supports 32 network nodes, we think that is more than enough." Me, looking at my router's DHCP clients list with over a hundred PCs, smart devices, gaming consoles, mobile devices...even the damn washing machine has a MAC address.

[@joaogrrr]

Stewart isn't rude, he is on point with the subject in presentation and never lets the presenter pitch the product to the audience like in an infomercial. This is actually how you're supposed to question business people, you can't leave much room for them to feel comfortable.

[@lenovovo]

+joaogrrr Well joaogrr, I guess he just beat them at their own game ... just sayin' .... LOL ....

[@theKeshaWarrior]

joaogrrr I don't know, he seems like he's way more of a dick in this episode compared to how he was in the 80s and 90s, rushing people though the tech babble like it doesn't matter, when that's why we watched the show in the 90s to begin with.

[@neoasura]

Jaden I agree...I was just thinking that watching these "newer" episodes compared to the older ones. He just gives off the vibe like he's been doing it for so long and is getting burnt out and just disenchanted with the show by this point. I mean, it's been 20 years running with him on.

[@wojiaobill]

he's goddamed annoying is what he is. I want to hear the guest speak without being interrupted!

[@RogueScholarMDC]

I think the biggest point of contention is that in the early and mid 80s almost everything they showed on the program was so new, and so innovative. Even looking back on it from today's time it was like the wild west of technology. By 2000, computers were getting pretty common place and aside from a few different interpretations of the technology it really hasn't changed all that much in the past 20 years as it was changing in the prior 20 years. Computers now have pretty much the same architecture with a few minor alterations to be 'faster' and 'more memory' but things were pretty much leveling off in 2000 compared to each year going forward in the 80s and 90s.

[@common_c3nts]

The computer chronicles documents the first 20 years of computers, internet, and technology. This will be how people 100 years from now learn about history. Nothing documents history better than this.

[@CaptchaNeon]

I can’t believe Stewart is 81 already. He really got a chance to see all the tech that’s come out over the years however, I have to say I’m sad that Gary didn’t get to see everything that has come out since he died.

[@medes5597]

@Andrew Tarrant the gates foundation is a tax dodge and Gates has earned 70 billion dollars since he claimed he was giving it all away.

[@AcornElectron]

He’s dead now.

[@AcornElectron]

@@medes5597 correct

[@AcornElectron]

@Drew not really

[@CaptchaNeon]

@@AcornElectron He is not dead

[@sontodosnarcos]

I could watch this show for hours.

[@billn.1318]

2000 was the genesis of the what made computers of today. 2000s were exciting times in computing.

[@JSmithSS]

I used to watch that Quicktime TV stuff in school. It was really cool before most other streaming TV was even available.

[@jasonbracey9723]

Surprising all this tech was out since 2000

[@pablole8630]

Years without seeing that Betacam SP Pause gray, at the begining!! ❤

[@Fiilis1]

Access to Stewart's C-drive. Delete System32

[@westtell4]

i'm glad Residential gateway never took off that's a mouth full its easier to say router

[@chubbycatfish4573]

People would have probably shortened it to "resgay" or something, which is almost as bad.

[@thedebug3866]

10mb on phone line isn't bad, even today honestly.

[@nicko9799]

J C adsl uses telephone line

[@scottishadonis]

@J C I think you are getting confused with the acronym ADSL (Asymmetric Digital Subscriber Line) and what the actual technology is. ADSL is just a technology that allows you to increase the bandwidth over a cable (Copper phone line for example) and not a specific cable type.

[@hypercube33]

I believe 10Base-T supports CAT3 which is what phone lines used. What's interesting is that this appears to not need a hub - since a lot of cheapass installs of phone (even to this day) are daisy-chained together meaning they go from one wall jack to another.

[@TechRyze]

A lot more can be sent down basic copper these days. The issue is whether you're sharing with a DSL line. Back then you wouldn't be, but that tech uses basic copper with the right kit at each end.

[@raven4k998]

10 meg is rather decent that is so true beats shitty 56k by far man

[@Zedek]

Fuckin Hell. The Installer at 0:32 with the guy and the cog - We had so much problems making Win98 and XP talk to each other in 2002 and re-installing everything 150x when it suddenly worked. The worst was the Internet Gateway (Win98 PC in my room get access via the XP machine which was actually hooked up to the modem). It was horrible, and .. for some reason, now I remember it fondly with my dad running with the installation floppy in hand between the two PCs, rebooting each on and off until we randomly could see "Shared Files", we would "Woo-Hoo!" from two different rooms! The manual was just like: "Turn on PC1, then turn on PC2 and run this batch". Yeeeah, no.

[@ian_b]

I remember something similar (not with a dad though!). It seemed to take hours for the PCs to see the files on each other so you never knew whether it had worked and you just had to wait another 10 minutes...

[@rubenvd3913]

> Apple > Customer installable card How the times have changed...

[@BlownMacTruck]

Not really - this is just a sad, tired stereotype. There are user replaceable parts in most Macs, including the laptops. These days it doesn’t really matter as much because unlike back then, there isn’t much you need to add internally.

[@captainkeyboard1007]

This show may give me an interest in acquainting myself more with hardware as I am with software.

[@cobaltblue1975]

I miss Netgear's old design aesthetic for their routers and switches.

[@jkmsaturn]

Man, that Two Wire developer probably made out well. AT&T adopted this technology for their networking.

[@WhatALoadOfTosca]

4:36 "Can we do two things at once" and then Stewart scrolls down the same page without doing anything different...

[@CrashOverride777]

It's been 20 year and in another 20. Years tech we have now will seem low tech

[@raven4k998]

don't bet on it computers today will be shockingly still fast enough for old people that just surf the internet just fine all you'd have to do is replace the spinner with an ssd problem solved

[@a-terrible-fate532]

I am guessing that by the time I am 50 20 years from now that AR glasses will be commonplace or maybe even AR contact lenses. But for sure AR glasses will be as small as a pair of sunglasses probably even by 2030 but definitely by 2040.

[@raven4k998]

@@a-terrible-fate532 that's assuming that something better does not come along that is better then AR glasses which given tech has proven true in the past take for example the lazer disc getting replaced the the compact disc just one example of something better coming along another being ssd's over spinners

[@oo0Spyder0oo]

'lawyering with integrity' goes the sponsor ad, there's a contradiction for ya.

[@radiosnmore]

On point man I like his I terveiwing style keep it fresh n short. 👌

[@jacobbaranowski]

and things have not change mutch sinc I remamber all of this being new, at school and etc...dam I am old now

[@weaponofmassconstruction1940]

Nah, it's only been twent... Oh.

[@dodoslavn]

"if you have pentium processor and you have just one user, you are wasting the power"

[@raven4k998]

my GTX 1080 would be bottlenecked by a shit Pentium processor hell a Pentium 4 processor would bottleneck my GPU wa wa wwwaaaaaaaaa..........

[@raven4k998]

a pentium what about a amd ryzen 3950x for one user? na that's just normal computer cpu power for me to use

[@RonJohn63]

It's true. 99% of the time, it's just sitting there waiting for the user to do something.

[@BlownMacTruck]

Why is this a weird quote? Single user machines are doing nothing most of the time. Back then it was especially wasteful because we didn't have adjustable clock speeds.

[@dodoslavn]

@@BlownMacTruck "Single user machines are doing nothing most of the time." said who?

[@hayzeproductions7093]

Am shocked to see they Buddy dumb terminal existed back in 2000, never knew this existed until today.

[@saghwteam]

I used 56 kbps dial-up all the way to 2010--2011, didn't know any better that I was really that behind the technological curve

[@SomeDudeInBaltimore]

2020 and I'm staring at the 57 DHCP clients on my home network. Most of them from smart devices.

[@sontodosnarcos]

I have 30 myself, and counting. Insane.

[@raven4k998]

I am shocked how they could share 56k internet on two computers simultaneously how thee hell did they do it I couldn't imagine going back to that slow ass shit internet

[@xeong5]

@@raven4k998 web pages before the 2000s weren't so multimedia based. Once broadband hit mainstream websites were full of ads and high resolution pictures.

[@raven4k998]

@@xeong5 but still have you ever used 56k dialup even back in the day it was so fuckin slow like omfg then again spinners are slow as shit to ssd's so yeah back then those light webpages still took a minute to download and open I remember that time well

[@kevinhoward9593]

"ADSL is going to be the predominant way people get internet." Boy if they could get a look at my 1gbps FiOS Fiber Optic network today lol.

[@RonJohn63]

To be fair, he did say, *"one* of the predominant ways". And 10 years ago (10 years after this episode), ADSL *was* a predominant way people got on internet.

[@eugrus]

xDSL still has the predominant share in both the European and North American markets or did I miss something?

[@jblyon2]

@@eugrus Cable is predominant in the US for the most part unless DSL is the only option, or people are just stupid consumers

[@mikehh8020]

In 10 years from now, there will be 10gbps with no wires/fiber.

[@TheChrimboEffect]

Yup the highest speeds i have seen on my connection was 4.7gbps

[@Rockband2991]

My old school had that same microscope they shows in the beginning of this video

[@joseph9770]

Anybody else remember how insanely insecure these file sharing protocols were on Windows? ;-D

[@jacobbaranowski]

yes yeah I do

[@benconway9010]

@@jacobbaranowski lol you speak of experience😄

[@WillOnSomething]

Honestly, they still are. At least by default without any extra configuration. It does help that Windows 7 and beyond lets you designate if a network is private or public, but unfortunately many people will just click the first option out of convenience :|

[@matthewseals8110]

Oh man, I remember taking network security courses and walking through earlier networks from the early 90s on and my god it was built on trust and a prayer. My favorite was how blantly broken WEP was and how long people kept using it 😅

[@BlownMacTruck]

You make it sound like those protocols are all that different today. Hint: they're not.

[@developerfriendly]

Güzel zamanlardı :( çok çabuk geçti

[@midnitetoker420]

The memories...As a technician in this era, I dealt with so many of those 2-Wire Home Gateways...ugh! The nightmares! Edit: If I recall, Bellsouth had a contract with them, at least in Georgia, for their DSL routers.

[@Shinnokxz]

I can imagine the network traffic they were claiming to accomplish over a two wire (and we are talking about houses that possible had wiring as old as 8 decades after this came out) made even just two devices trudge the mud. But they saw the vision and eventually it got there Also all the DSL talk was funny, which goes to the same reasoning that phone wiring was so bad from the DSLAM in so many buildings.

[@DjadamGee]

It's fun seeing all this old tech in 2019, but I wonder if anyone ever called old Stew out for cutting them off so damn much. I actually get irritated hearing him cut these poor people off over and over again lol. I could have NEVER been on this show, I have have slapped Stew for being so rude 😂😂😂

[@yellowblanka6058]

He addresses this in one episode, he wants to show more tech/software, so each vendor has less time, and if he let them go on they'd continue with their whole marketing spiel.

[@TechRyze]

Totally rushed!

[@artemiosandoval2032]

Yellowblanka I noticed that. He really keeps them on track. It’s definitely jarring for him to constantly cut them off.

[@stuartaparker]

Specifically came here to say exactly this!!!

[@Crazyerics]

Keep in mind he's been hosting the show for fifteen years+ by this point. The production team has fine-tuned how to maintain the pace of the show and bring in more demos for the time allotment. I totally agree its turned Stewie into someone more abrasive than his 1985 self. The eariler shows are easier to watch in this sense.

[@radiosnmore]

Network shares cdrom...playing Diablo over wifi on my IBM 380Xd. Felt futuristic. Up to 500 ft away lol

[@StevenEveral]

7:15 What is essentially being demonstrated here is a very primitive form of cloud computing. They compare it to the old mainframes, but the concept behind this is not all that different from say, Google Docs. 13:46 "No wires? No wires." Yes, that question seems silly now, but remember, this was the year 2000, when Wifi was still quite new. 14:46 11 Mbps seems slow now, but was similar to what a 100+ Mbps connection is in 2016.

[@neoasura]

Agreed, actually...I would have been floored, and called you a liar if you told me you could send files wireless even back in 2000, when our area didn't even have "wired" broadband until 2003. I think infrared was the only wireless way to send files back then as far as I knew of.

[@ezydenias8505]

10 mbps? You usually only have 10 mbps if you use your nas via samba. Which is comfortable for windows user but fuck me sidewards is it slow. So I think 11 mbps isn't so bet, now of course assuming you get the full capacity out of those. Todays 100 mbps wlans are most of the time not even used to this extent except maybe you have 20 users in the same one.

[@WalnutSpice]

11mbps is still pretty quick. Most people still have around 4down amd mabe 1 or 2mbps up.

[@RonJohn63]

What he's describing is *in no way shape or form* anything like cloud computing, which requires a front end computer to access the network.

[@DualPurpose]

It's virtual machining not cloud computing

[@allenantonio4389]

Stew is a true Dork

[@anthropicPanda]

It’s funny to see these videos and listen to how they assumed we would use these devices and systems, and then know how we really use them..

[@Luix]

using telephone wires inside the house to create a lan....

[@Luix]

@mike h we have plcs at 230v

[@bobbastian760]

The residential gateway; a great solution looking for a problem.

[@wallacelang1374]

It would be interesting to link my four different Windows (95, 98, XP and 10) PCs together, but I don't believe that I could include my old Atari 800XL to my home network as well.

[@devoiddude]

Broadband was available in the U.S in 2000? mind blown.......the first DSL/BROADBAND appeared in ireland in 2003, before that all we had was Dial up.

[@StevenEveral]

Yes, but only businesses and the wealthy could afford it. It was insanely expensive, compared to even 256k.

[@devoiddude]

Steven Manning what kinda speeds could you get?

[@StevenEveral]

In 2000, a broadband connection was a T-1 line, which was about ~20 Mbps in 2000.

[@devoiddude]

Steven Manning sweeet

[@werkis2]

Wow ! In Latvia we got that in 1997 with 8kb/s and 16kb/s for 1000 & 1400 USD. Now we have relay fast 4G Latvia has seventh fastest Internet speed on mobile devices and Optical fiber internet 100mbps . Otherwise my country sucks :D

[@yougod7253]

56K man that is fast.

[@Starhartdeer]

I like that dumb terminal thing, quite neat

[@xan1242]

Saw Unreal on that computer installed, HMM Also unintended pun at 13:43 since Mac OS X was based on nextstep

[@JSmithSS]

This one is still before OS X was released, he's still using OS 9. :)

[@jay923]

Who else is just watching Goldeneye playing in the background?

[@goransvraka3171]

went to buy.com and cant find the site

[@shaylonsegrest7372]

I'm surprised "residential gateway" never took off. Sounds dope as F!!!! Lol

[@ChatGPT1111]

Nah, nothing will ever replace the abacus and two cans on a string 😮

[@i-heart-google7132]

05:26 What's that music? ??

[@mybigfatpolishlife]

Tom petty Last Chance for Mary jane

[@danielcubillos1325]

11 Mbit per second it was amazing by the time it was recoerded. ! 11 miilion bits per second...

[@fireteehee]

USB Dongle hmmmm

[@WiseGuy02]

Would have been good if the residential gateway guy was allowed to speak.

[@thedebug3866]

Hey, it's real jokebox!

[@sbrazenor2]

The buddy card seemed like a cool idea, but it would be crippled by a game or program that uses the entire CPU resource. Definitely better if you're using multicore system, but in those days, home PCs didn't have those.

[@Silvers24]

It definatly would have been had it been successful. But if you think about it, it was crushed in terms of what we have done in the last ten years alone anyways. Linus and his 7 person gaming PC alone was insane before he disassembled it. Early 2k though showed a lot of interesting things of what could come.

[@joeysluzer1913]

@@Silvers24 Linus? Fuck that abusing turd. Anyway, the buddy card was pretty much rendered obsolete by Linux.

[@andrewbevan4662]

why have a guest and keep interrupting him?.. the presenter might as well give us the information himself..

[@JSmithSS]

This tends to be the format. He's trying to fit a lot into a short amount of time, and keep them moving along.

[@TechRyze]

The show is completely rushed

[@looneyburgmusic]

I want a Vega Buddy today for the Core i7 PC my kids are always fighting over...

[@anadragos8340]

✨Rip Tom Petty!😢✨

[@BigEightiesNewWave]

5:26

[@Briansworld77]

Weird, I had the song "Mary Jane's Last Dance" stuck in my head. Then I watch this and it starts playing on my computer.

[@benconway9010]

Whos tom petty?

[@ens8502]

@@benconway9010 Learning to flyyy

[@jjcoolaus]

Is there a modern equivalent to the Vega Buddy? That's pretty cool

[@Shinnokxz]

Google Stadia

[@Shinnokxz]

Steam Deck

[@ezydenias8505]

8:07 if you are using your pentium alone you are bassicly wasting your potential CPU power? That is so funny to a 3D Artist like me, who is relying on mass amounts of processing power this sounds so silly. But I guess he has a good point even today most CPUs have way more power than the average person needs.

[@oldtwinsna8347]

problem is that coding is very inefficient these days so they take a lot of computing power to run what were once simple tasks. the flip side is that new programs can be developed very rapidly (only weeks to a few months) vs taking years as it was in the past.

[@mezza001]

I don't like it how the host keeps talking over and cutting short the guest while they are talking/responding to his questions. I do understand, it's a short 30min show so maybe the hosts trying to cram everything, however, it seems the host already knows about the product/software and have all the answers and info, he don't need his guest and could just explained it himself :)

[@johneygd]

When wireless technology was new and not standard implemented in modems,these day's wireless internet in modems are standerdized with a much higher speed and also a security password code for it is standard. My only complain is ,why to this day, even wired internet connection from your provider is not secured with a password code,because you don't want your friend to sneak in your house and connect it wired to your modem and hacking site or do fraud, because you will be blaimed about it by your provider,not your friend.

[@richards1708]

If your friend can sneak I to your house and directly connect to your modem you have bigger things to worry about than what he does on your Internet connection

[@richards1708]

On second thoughts this would make more sense at the device levels where you can control the devices on your local network.

[@kiphenry88]

My house barely had one computer let alone 3 and a laptop 😂

[@picklerick814]

DSL was and still is a mess in germany. it is right away bad. when my dad subscribed to DSL in the early 2000s, we got "DSL 2000" which was 2mbit. Later on we upgraded to 6mbit. and then the subseller was bought by vodafone and the exact same phone line only allowed 3mbit from then on. i like my DS-Lite sh**t now. 500mbit and if i need to host stuff, it's like 6€ per month for a vps

[@u0aol1]

'So we have a 56k modem installed' My first thought was ohhhhh fuck, shits going to hit the fan. I'm so glad I was born late enough to miss that bullshit yet early enough to be technically literate. Thank Jeebus for broadband. Thank my mother for keeping her legs shut long enough for me to enjoy it!

[@Shinnokxz]

I was 12 when I networked two PCs together to share a 56k connection for my Dad. It worked fine, I could play Starcraft on one PC and he was doing whatever on his. The struggle people talk about is some boring meme these days. It was totally awesome when you had it

[@u0aol1]

@@Shinnokxz My uncle gifted me an Amiga 500 some time in the 90's, was my first computer and having to hit the big switch on the power supply, then the back of the Philips monitor and then use kickstart just to load up and play F/A 18 Interceptor, I remember the awesomeness of it too, just grateful the advancements happened when they did haha!

[@jussikankinen9409]

Gay porno were shit hits fan is nono with 56kb modem needs 4g

[@jzen1455]

Is that Louis Rossman's dad?

[@CrashOverride777]

Lol the vid was copyrighted because of the song lol

[@AcornElectron]

ADSL …. RIP

[@pvtglarson1]

to this day printing is still unmanageable

[@halfsourlizard9319]

Except that now it's basically unnecessary?

[@pvtglarson1]

@@halfsourlizard9319 maybe in imaginary land but at my job its still a thing

[@halfsourlizard9319]

@@pvtglarson1 How ... old-timey / boomery.

[@halfsourlizard9319]

@@pvtglarson1 Do you have fax machines, as well!? 💀

[@pvtglarson1]

@@halfsourlizard9319 just one which is technically just a printer

[@haroldasvelioniskis223]

@krantz55 he was rude, but computer chronicles was good show about computers. I miss it

[@Tore299]

Haroldas Velioniskis Sometimes it might have been good that he was. To prevent people from going on a full sales pitch.

[@lenovovo]

+Haroldas Velioniskis Yes Haroldas, even though I love this show, I too, think that Stewart is a very rude person, very arrogant, I see in most of the episodes he makes his guest feel very uncomfortable, I guess he was doing something right though because the show lasted a very long time. By the way, are there any good computer shows on PBS these days or anywhere else as far as that goes.

[@simonpetrus1981]

Has anyone wondered how Stewart Cheifet is doing in 2018 and beyond? Let me know what you think.

[@sean121111]

He is doing very well. 80 years old and he just spoke at the Tandy convention. It is available on youtube

[@donotryon9389]

He looks great for 80 too. @@sean121111

[@brianc5537]

Wow he doesn’t even look like he’s in his 80s. Still looks pretty much the same.😮

[@halfsourlizard9319]

Same comb-over, same hood, it's all good! And if you don't know ... now you know ...

[@liquidalloy]

I know how to use Netgear routers. Open the box, throw it in the garbage then buy a real router, Linksys

[@bentonmelvin8477]

It's 2020... And 10mbps is the fastest I can get... My best friend can only get Mbps ... Rural America really got fucked over on internet.

[@calle68]

Is it legal? Well, after watching a copy of Golden Eye just 5 minutes before ...

[@spritemon98]

I forgot how bulky pc's were

[@flirtwd]

20 damn years and shit on windows looks the same.

[@bhollingsworth]

Tom Petty was a nice choice ......

[@albundy7718]

No Ethernetcards yet, that's strange.

[@davethewebguy]

Damn, what’s with the badgering? I cringe for the vendors trying to show their stuff off.

[@MichaelFlenderson]

🌮

[@davidplowie4670]

The host interrupts everybody ALL the time, let them speak!!!

[@feandesign]

5:09 - epic fail.

[@doemis8573]

Damn, that device at 08:30 ist ugly.

[@daehawk9585]

Apple screwed me over on a Airport and Ive hated them since

[@eccremocarpusscaber5159]

Poor you.

[@nothing-dk3gw]

Google ang facebook are not yet existed.

[@dorlaretz5901]

Google existed

[@jdmulloy]

Sound is too quiet.

[@jcherrera104]

He seems to always interrupt his guest before they even get to finish a answer from a question he asks SMH

[@fueledbyregret]

He’s such a bloody rude interviewer. It’s car crash stuff.

[@Kaziklu]

He had been doing this for something like 20 year at that point. The people that came on the show often wanted to do a infomercial and he needed to keep things going and make sure things were camera ready and inside segment time. You let some of these guys go they would take up time. Often these shows had competitors in the same market space too, and they were take passive aggressive shots or try to drag things out to lower time for others. Or at least that is how it seemed to me... Sometimes they were just inexperienced and didn't understand TV.

[@oldtwinsna8347]

This is what happens if Stewart doesn't cut a marketing manager off at the right moment: Stewart: Tell us what this product does? Marketing manager: With our Genesis product you are able to connect to the Internet at over 10Mbps sustained... imagine how this will revolutionize your life, all the things you can now do that you couldn't before. Endless possibilities exist. Think of your children who can access educational resources quicker and faster. All these and more features are available for only $99, plus if you look in the box it comes with, we have a coupon for 50% off a second purchase!

[@Patrick-tf1ri]

iBook rules

[@raven4k998]

sharing a 56k modem to surf the internet for two different computers simultaneously my mind is just blown away that it can handle all that data transfer I must be spoiled to have gigabit internet on a single computer or my pc and xbox shit man I am so spoiled 😂🤣😂🤣😎😎🤣😂😂😎🤣😆😆😆

[@a0402330]

Stewart is very rude on this episode. Snaping at guests.

[@notman2k7]

He's not being rude it was a rule that the people who he has guests on dont try and take over the show with there sale pitches.

[@oldtwinsna8347]

@@notman2k7 Indeed, and companies began sending their junior marketing managers over to the show during these later years, vs the early days where it was a corporate executive coming to the show. I'm sure Stewart wasn't too thrilled about that, so when they tried to use his show as a platform to increase their sales commissions, he wasn't about to let that happen.

[@a0402330]

Yea, BUT there is a diference between taking over a show and the host snapinf and being wayyy too bored.@@notman2k7

[@yellowblanka6058]

15:34 - lol, no shit, because you're an INCH FROM THE WIRELESS ACCESS POINT, lol, maybe try walking around the studio a bit.

[@BlownMacTruck]

🙄Yeah, because 802.11b fell off in terms of reliability by moving across a studio.

[@yellowblanka6058]

​@@BlownMacTruck When you're demonstrating wireless tech, it makes sense to move around a bit, a moderate distance from the access point etc. to show the signal strength/speed at varying distances.

[@BlownMacTruck]

@@yellowblanka6058 Really? You can see packet loss, throughout, and latency by watching a website load, which was their “test” on the show? Come on now. Again, I repeat: 🙄

[@yellowblanka6058]

@@BlownMacTruck Yes....all measured while an inch from the router...again, I repeat, with wireless tech, things change based on distance from the access point/materials and interference in between the two etc.

[@BlownMacTruck]

@@yellowblanka6058 God you’re dense. None of that matters for this kind of demonstration. You’re probably the same person who talks about how much better your electronic smart sous vide cooker is at making steaks at your neighbor’s backyard burger cookout. Again, *know your audience*. And for the record: no, you can’t see any of those stats by loading a webpage (or to be more specific in this case, a video stream) and judging it on pure sight alone. That should be obvious to everyone but apparently that has to be explained to you.

[@timramich]

Oh wow. I thought fast ethernet was already in the home by 2000. Yikes.

[@iiiiii1449]

God that iBook was hideous.

[@JonnyInfinite]

III III I like it

[@daviddd_edgar]

The presenter is so patronizing 🤮