Configure the PIDE Instruction in Studio 5000 for Allen Bradley PLC

There are two PID instructions in Rockwell Automation's Studio 5000 for the Allen Bradley Controllogix and Compactlogix PLC. Today we're going to talk about the basic configuration of the PIDE instruction.
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[@RakeshPatel-cg9ku]

this is how you can teach it on fun way,, and this kinda programming doesn't make you bored...make more content like that Tim. always love the way you are explaining. thanks

[@TimWilborne]

Thanks, that made my day!

[@coasterbp]

Nice, Tim. I'm really looking forward to this series.

[@TimWilborne]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@HienAutomation]

Wow, great example and the kit Tim. Thank you so much.

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome Hien!

[@nkt20880]

Awesome.It was fun looking at the ball holding there even with the changes given.

[@TimWilborne]

Thanks

[@alnaseri3622]

Well Done Tim!!! as always, great content and explanation!!

[@TimWilborne]

Thanks Al, glad you liked it!

[@Tom_Sawyer385]

Thank you Tim. Keep up the good work👍

[@TimWilborne]

Thanks, will do!

[@Arunsingh-xu6wc]

Thanks Tim.. your every video support me....

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome Arun.

[@omarzedan1261]

Thank you so much, You are the best.

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome Omar!

[@jimbass924]

Great video!

[@TimWilborne]

Thanks!

[@joaquimferreira4796]

Great, thanks

[@TimWilborne]

You are welcome!

[@Nicofish2023]

Thanks. Please how to change the PVEuMax if it is grey out ?

[@reynakarinalanzaringarcia9013]

TIM can you make a video explaining the PIDE function connected to the SRTP function please or do you have any document of this function?

[@johnrece6622]

could you cover few things you do on lines or equipment to pm your systems already in place? such as loop checks or creating backup files, or checks you can do when things are running smooth for a controls tech/plc.

[@TimWilborne]

Creating backups would be a good video. Let me see what I can come up with. Also observing working systems and making sure you understand how they work is great practice. Might make for a fun video. Thanks for the ideas John!

[@MrCow269]

Great video! Can you do a video on PID in ladder logic in rslogix 5000. I know it’s close to FBD but I’ve never used FBD before.

[@TimWilborne]

We will near the end of the series but this is one to learn function block programming with if you have it available. There are features in the function block version that are not available in the ladder version.

[@LuisSanchez-zb2ou]

Excellente Gracias

[@TimWilborne]

De nada

[@NathanStJean-yv3et]

Hi Tim! first time watcher here. Do you have any videos where you play with the FeedForward Function of the PIDE block?

[@TimWilborne]

No but we're getting ready to start the PID series back up, I'll put it on the list.

[@The_pickleball_fennec]

How do safety contactors work and how to program an AB one?

[@TimWilborne]

We've got some videos coming on this trainer that should cover that. Stay tuned! www.theautomationstore.com/tw-controls-trn-icp-440c-allen-bradley-guardmaster-safety-relay-plc-trainer-with-ac-drive-motor/

[@mattnolin7127]

Hi Tim, Do you have a video outlining the Studio 5000 PID instruction rather than the PIDE instruction? does the PID instruction offer any autotune functionality?

[@TimWilborne]

For the most part, there is no reason to use the PID compared to the PIDE...including the lack of autotune.

[@hexcozandrianto]

thanks Tim for sharing, but a question is on my head, how we limit the minimum CV value? can we used the CVLLimit ? thanks a lot

[@TimWilborne]

Yes you can! I have a video coming just about that.

[@hexcozandrianto]

Thank you Tim thats help me alot

[@justinpuzak2558]

Where did you get the inches sticker for the side of the tube, I bought a PID trainer but It didnt come with it.

[@TimWilborne]

Here is the tape I added to mine. amzn.to/3F09Jic

[@shapoorkosarimehr9404]

Hi Tim , what type of level sensor do u use for this project?

[@TimWilborne]

Ultrasonic

[@brandonhildebrand167]

I have a normally open valve where 0%/4mA is open and 100%/20mA is closed. I also have a normally closed valve where 0%/4mA is closed and 100%/20mA is open. The normally closed valve operates fine and the HMI screen shows this. The normally open valve we would like to invert the 0-100% displayed so that the numbers are always percent open and not 0% when open and 100% when closed. Is there a way to get that value from the PIDE inverted or do I have to do it outside the PIDE? Others have set me up to use CV as the output and we have many in the system that use that and I'd hate to deviate, and hopefully there is just a setting or value I can use.

[@johanna3344]

Good day sir.. I have this question, I hope you can help me.. what parameter(s) in PIDE should I set so that the PV is directly proportional to the CV? I hope you'll be able to read this, Thank you so much.

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Johanna. If you need the PC to be directly proportional to the CV, then you wouldn't need to use a PIDE. You would simply use a MUL multiply instruction but I think you will have trouble controlling it with that.

[@aarsalkhan6467]

A very nice explanation. But i have a question, please let me know, when you will put ga 6.0 setpoint then control value reaches to 100 directly. How??

[@TimWilborne]

It wasn't completely directly, there was some cycle before it got there but at that point the process variable was below the setpoint variable so it began increasing the output.

[@aarsalkhan6467]

@@TimWilborne oky thanks sir.

[@mimimaqueda9924]

Hey Tim, I have a question, how can I limit the maximum output of the CVEU of this PIDE?

[@TimWilborne]

Open up the PIDE and go to the limits tab. You will see it there.

[@mimimaqueda9924]

@@TimWilborne I tried with CVEUMax but it didn't work, you probably mean "CVHLimit"?

[@mimimaqueda9924]

Hey Tim, yesterday I used "CVHLimit" and this limited the CV and CVEU, thank you!

[@TimWilborne]

@@mimimaqueda9924 Great!

[@jaikumar2682]

please do videos on status flags uses and how to use them?

[@TimWilborne]

It will be in this series, stay tuned!

[@jaikumar2682]

@@TimWilborne thank you for this

[@ruizjuan3384]

I'm getting a pide instruction fault. It's on a burner control. So the burner is off but we are having a 26% output doesn't matter what setpoint I put in. It stays at 26% output is there something you recommend checking?

[@TimWilborne]

I bet you min is set to 26%... See what you process variable is showing

[@ruizjuan3384]

@@TimWilborne is there a support link I can email you?

[@ruizjuan3384]

@TimWilborne pv is 0 but I'm gett8ng a PIDe instruction fault on my hmi. What could cause this from a program standpoint?

[@TimWilborne]

We don't offer support for specific applications, you would need to reach out to Rockwell support.

[@johanna3344]

Good day sir.. I have this question, I hope you can help me.. what parameter(s) in PIDE should I set so that the PV is directly proportional to the CV? I hope you'll be able to read this, Thank you so much.

[@TimWilborne]

Hi Johanna. If you need the PC to be directly proportional to the CV, then you wouldn't need to use a PIDE. You would simply use a MUL multiply instruction but I think you will have trouble controlling it with that.