They FIXED the "Not Enough Customers" Bug & I'm LOSING Money! | Cities: Skylines 2 | Linden #7

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ConflictNerd

ConflictNerd

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@SavageDiffguy
@SavageDiffguy Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to note for you that you can buy some of the moutain tops behind the university you setup and you can place some wind turbines up there. I've done quite a few of them and will have enough power for my city and some to export. Just a thought. Furthermore, you can place them strategically to where they look essetically pleasing along the moutain scape as well. It can really look amazing. I've even started testing how to get small towns in the moutain tops as well by careful smoothing of certain surfaces and sloping to get them up there with roads and planting trees along the moutain side to make it look like a majestic travel to a moutain lodge or soome secuded area of outlanders. Hopefully CO comes out with things like sky villages or businesses were you could place maybe a resort up there. One other thing to note is that you can slide the nodes around like when you were adjusting your garbage area this allows you to have far more granular control over your lines.grab a node and slide it down the blu line to where you want a bend to go etc. I usually do this on farms where power lines go through so i use all of the land and lose only the small square at the base of the lines.
@brother282
@brother282 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see some outpost settlements far away from the main city that you try and incorporate. Maybe a small village built into the mountain for an ore industry town, or a farming settlement far upriver from the city. Something that'll require some interesting transit options to connect with your city. Love the vid as always
@Patriots017
@Patriots017 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure part of the problem could be that the trash places are importing trash, so they just constantly fill up. So maybe assigning them to districts will help mitigate that. Could be wrong, just my two cents.
@baolocle1708
@baolocle1708 Жыл бұрын
I think your point is totally legit, given that I once seen "Garbage" stored in my cargo train station alongside other goods.
@FajreroCintilo
@FajreroCintilo Жыл бұрын
​​@@baolocle1708 we can export and sell garbage?!
@rizzorepulsive7704
@rizzorepulsive7704 Жыл бұрын
@@FajreroCintilo i dont know about export but you definitely import it
@Babyfacenelson1981
@Babyfacenelson1981 Жыл бұрын
All the roads/rail and everything on city skylines is a lot more precise in number 2. So your probably right with having to assign districts, ive been doing it with police but not trash.
@baolocle1708
@baolocle1708 Жыл бұрын
@@FajreroCintilo Looks like it's a thing. Also, mails can be carried using trains/ships so the mailing facilities can benefit from being closed to the train station/harbor as well.
@mexieboy1
@mexieboy1 Жыл бұрын
if you zone the plots different sizes (some 4x4, 4x2, 3x2 etc) and mix the high rise office, shops and housing your skyline will diversify and will be way less repetative :)
@SineN0mine3
@SineN0mine3 Жыл бұрын
At least for residential this seems to help with the high rent problem somewhat. If there's demand you tend to get the largest possible block size by default but those house are of course more expensive than smaller ones. Having variety, trending towards more smaller homes seems to keep the rent at a reasonable level. Large homes make people happier, at least in the early game; large blocks can negate a lack of services meaning you can hold out on providing police and education services for longer but the downside is that your land values will skyrocket when you eventually do add those services. If you've already got lots of high rent in a particular neighbourhood then that should be an ideal location for higher density. If the area is poorly suited to high density, you should zone smaller blocks in that are or potentially add more streets to increase the total number of homes. It seems like you can avoid having to fork out for tertiary education by maintaining lower land values since the game is quite generous at giving you extra tiles. I'm really enjoying the fact that there are multiple avenues to successful growth compared to the previous game especially since the hotfix patch.
@adamk8376
@adamk8376 Жыл бұрын
Would have been cool to put the medical university right next to that hospital you built. Turn it into a university hospital like in a lot of big cities. Philadelphia for instance has the Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania right next to the University of Pennsylvania and the Children's Hospital of Philadelphia.
@Chadmlad
@Chadmlad Жыл бұрын
I see that you only have one output for water outside your city. Since pipes can only transport a certain limit of water, you're completely bottlenecked, reducing the total amount exported to outside connections. Another issue is you've put all your water pumps on the same piping, right next to each other. The issue is, for the same reason, water output limits. Try to spread their water output to multiple pipes for effective use. Having your pipes at -20 m allows you to move them without conflict throughout your city. I personally install my pipes to Water Pumps at -20 and connect them to my main piping system, along with a direct line outside the city. Most of this applies to electicity aswell. Hope I helped 😊
@voldyriddle3337
@voldyriddle3337 Жыл бұрын
other players are also complaing about the garbage problem. its probably a bug in the game
@ConflictNerd
@ConflictNerd Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I've seen mixed opinions on what's going on with it, which is why I'm willing to give the expanded processing a shot to see if it works out - which, so far, it has! If things get bad, I think I can just delete and replace some of the buildings, for now.
@andreafire27
@andreafire27 Жыл бұрын
Yep it's bug they acknowledged it in the comments of the last hotfix patch post, they said that are investigating to resolve the bug
@litemanjr
@litemanjr Жыл бұрын
I noticed that. Played for 4 hours straight without having any garbage collection. No one ever complained and i finally notcied it at about 11,000 population. No one ever complained though
@DCKINGS2319
@DCKINGS2319 Жыл бұрын
​​@@ConflictNerdYou need to get rid of some of the traffic lights or keep building up traffic in some areas.
@fast-toast
@fast-toast Жыл бұрын
The bug is to do with the city importing garbage when it needs to burn its own garbage.
@Thromash
@Thromash Жыл бұрын
A few roundabouts could help with Traffic issues. A lot.
@suryaganapathy5813
@suryaganapathy5813 Жыл бұрын
Could you move the sewage drain towards the end of the city? Having it next to the college looks very bad. Also, having basic needs like a clinic, fire depot and a police station for every district may improve the city. I really want that drainage pipe to be moved away from the college. Please check on that ASAP.
@PhoenixWwrong
@PhoenixWwrong Жыл бұрын
All those house demolitions were depressing lol, especially for the hospital since you ended up creating a new block that could have fit
@laurengabriel3724
@laurengabriel3724 Жыл бұрын
I know that cs2 leaves a lot to be desired at release but honestly I STILL find it addictive and entertaining even with the bugs
@Harvest711
@Harvest711 Жыл бұрын
I've been loving everything you do for awhile now. I normally have more fun watching you play a game than actually playing the same game myself. Great stuff, thanks for sharing with us.
@mrblock1318
@mrblock1318 Жыл бұрын
I had this problem in my city. I found out i could just keep building and deleting the landfills. Expensive, but it worked to get rid of the excess garbage for now. I definitely need them to fix this as it is expensive bandage.
@viridian8786
@viridian8786 Жыл бұрын
Something I've seen with your city is the lack of services, particularly the range for police, healthcare, post service and road services. Would be good to remedy that either with upgrades or more assets👍
@matteoboido2241
@matteoboido2241 Жыл бұрын
19:43 Maybe on very long road you should replace the semaphore at the intersections with a give away signs. This way the main traffic is able to flow better
@darioschaake9416
@darioschaake9416 Жыл бұрын
I'd love a road service depot build very soon. I hope your gonna do it one day
@irspecialer
@irspecialer Жыл бұрын
I also hate the snow in the game. I always lose my mouse pointer when it snows. Also, need a way to size up or change the color of our mouse pointers.
@mustyaslan99
@mustyaslan99 Жыл бұрын
Even when the screen goes underground mode which has bit of gray tone and completely invisible mouse pointer
@zengrath
@zengrath Жыл бұрын
In my city, I just built a ton of incinerators and upgraded them and I'm making a ton of electricity that I am selling that helps offset the insane monthly fees and I am doing ok. Still making 30k a mionth in my 40k city satisfying all demands. I did have to delete the cargo port though, I found things were bugged and not exporting or importing properly like mail and soon as I deleted it my mail problems vanished and my profits went way up likely from industries now being able to actually import and export goods instead of stuck in port.
@FlorianXXV
@FlorianXXV Жыл бұрын
Quick of the top of my head theory about the Trees snapping to the Roads. Maybe it was once intentioned that you could place trees along the Roads yourself, instead of using the Sidewalk Tools. And the snapping is a relic of that. Or it's nothing and just a programming quirk with the snapping
@cmdr_stretchedguy
@cmdr_stretchedguy Жыл бұрын
Known bug: around 70K population, the neighbor cities start importing all their trash, which literally doubles or triples your trash (adds 100-200t of garbage). I had to build 7 upgraded incinerators just to keep up. Then add in the buggy traffic where they stop for no reason, the excessively short traffic lights (only letting 2-3 cars go per green light) and traffic quickly degenerates to gridlock. This means goods aren't delivered, trash isn't picked up, sick people arn't picked up leading to dead, and the hearses cant get to pick them up.
@TapIn-24
@TapIn-24 Жыл бұрын
Great to see consistent uploads. Keep it up!
@kingatlar7036
@kingatlar7036 Жыл бұрын
your medium/high density building looks quite cramp...it might be better if you leave some spaces and build walkpath behind it..with decorated trees
@GoldPrisma
@GoldPrisma Жыл бұрын
I had a landfill that was full, so I made another one. Then I unlocked the incinerator and recycling plant.. Plopped those further away from my city. Started emptying the full landfill to the new area with the incinerator, new landfill and recycling plant.. Idk what caused this to happen to me but before I deleted the old landfill I had roughly 8 million. After deleting I had nearly 200 million.
@PauperJ
@PauperJ Жыл бұрын
NerdroSoft Inc.'s OS, The Nerdrotron 70, from 1970, never had too few customers. Lines were miles long waiting to get the updated versions.
@SagPegasus
@SagPegasus Жыл бұрын
Did anyone see that bus skip the station at 50.28? Same or different lines? Because if same line, that's impressive - the second bus wasn't going to wait behind the first and clog traffic worse than it was.
@hugochan2821
@hugochan2821 Жыл бұрын
Incineration reduce waste volume by 95 percent, and some can be reused as construction material, while some need to be disposed in landfill. Incineration is no magic to make waste disappear, by it does help prolonged the lifespan of landfill, where you can store 20 times more waste in the same area. And landfill are very large, some cover the whole valley, so I don’t think it is a bug in cities skylines that you faced waste problem. You need to get the scale right of how much space you need for waste facility. You can go to google map to check for scale of stuff.
@thadizzie1
@thadizzie1 Жыл бұрын
Good stuff! Its comimg alomg nicely. I saw in the comments that maybe outside the city is bringing trash amd they maybe right. Biffa did a livestream and he has no trash collecting of anykind and there are no complaints. Another thing he said was about high rents. He rezones the residential a cple rows smaller and then the complaining stops.
@SagPegasus
@SagPegasus Жыл бұрын
If you don't set up trash collection, neighboring regions will come get it for you, but it's not cheap.
@thadizzie1
@thadizzie1 Жыл бұрын
​@SagPegasus aaaa...I see. Interesting. It is a cool option to have.
@gavin3188
@gavin3188 Жыл бұрын
I hope they also fixed the solar power station not discharging at night, it has just been sitting idle at night not doing anything. 😢 I hope that’s one of the things they fixed
@joeerving7174
@joeerving7174 Жыл бұрын
its not the incinerator, its because of how the game looks at trash. It treats trash the same as any other resource in the game (like steel or wood) The cargo hubs (train,ship,plane) try to keep in stock in the cities warehouses all the resources. Trash included. Hubs ship in trash and stock it in warehouses, the recycling center and landfill and incinerator take the trash from the warehouses, they fill there storage and then dont send out trucks cause no where to put it. Right now the fix is to zone a district around the trash processing facilities and ban import. No matter how much you can process your city will just keep ordering more and filling warehouses.
@N0_FP5
@N0_FP5 Жыл бұрын
Well, excited to see how this willl work on console
@eramferguson1701
@eramferguson1701 Жыл бұрын
You might want to add subways/metro lines to help.
@ataith224
@ataith224 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think that the point of CS2 is that players make more use of the "assign a district" feature on all the service buildings like healthcare and so on. I barely see anyone using it at all
@ilo3456
@ilo3456 Жыл бұрын
It is just difficult to break old habits since well we aren't really used to it
@TheGribbleNator
@TheGribbleNator Жыл бұрын
I made a point of using it very early on and found that it would just bug out a lot, especially if I forgot to change my district to include new sprawl that I've added. You'll get "Waiting for ambulance" that'll just sit there for the rest of your playthrough. Even if you delete everything around it including the building it stems from, that icon never goes away now. I haven't actually noticed any benefit whatsoever to using the districts except that I can make a lot more money by charging people for parking on the street, so I usually just make a huge district and enable the street parking fines.
@dovos8572
@dovos8572 Жыл бұрын
i have a 160k city and 8 incinerators and the medium dense buildings are complaining more than not about it. i thought they wanted to fix the service spam but it doesn't seem to work. i have over 10 elementary schools and i would probably need another 10 to get enough space for everyone. i already have one in every block so i would need to put them besides each other to get enough. they also insta fill up when i build a new one. another bug like the garbage one is with the crematoriums. i have waves of everyone complaining that the cars don't get to them but the reason for that is because they get stuck in traffic they themselve create because i have so many of them to combat that. i have over 10x the needed capacity for dead people and they still complain. districts might help but i don't want to use them. another bug is the headron collider. it takes 100x more water and sewage than it should. i would need to place at least 100 water pumps and sewage pipes for that building alone.
@Oswald_Thatendswald
@Oswald_Thatendswald Жыл бұрын
The bug isn't fixed for me. All the signature commercial buildings like the little diner are still having that problem. Also, like everyone in the city us pissed about high rent even though they say there's fair taxes and there's plenty of low income housing. So I think that's a bug too. My medical services are also buggy. I'll have full green coverage and still be getting a -1 for unreliable healthcare. Just perpetually at -1.
@michaeldemos5607
@michaeldemos5607 7 ай бұрын
If you want different types of skyscrapers, do them 2x2, 4x4 and so forth
@kiarakeeper2154
@kiarakeeper2154 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you dig into paid parking. I think it's an awesome feature and I'd love to see more of it.
@mathewboulette916
@mathewboulette916 Жыл бұрын
What if you put cargo trains and passenger trains on or inside the mountains? Maybe for more building space since trains take lots of land and breaks infastructure
@drwheycooler8423
@drwheycooler8423 Жыл бұрын
The MD902 helicopter! They use those in the UK and land in city streets all the time. We don't do that in the states tho.
@cmkw3370
@cmkw3370 Жыл бұрын
Way to keep it up! We need your cities skylines videos!
@sajjadsa1898
@sajjadsa1898 Жыл бұрын
How about to move the cemetery to another place around the city and build commercial zone instead of it. The cemetery is in the middle of the city.
@sumanjana7432
@sumanjana7432 Жыл бұрын
CREATING HIGH RISE behind CENTRAL Bank is big security concern LOL ;)
@TheMrDrMs
@TheMrDrMs Жыл бұрын
Incineration Plant is my go to. With upgrades, it can process 75T and gives me more power than I need.
@Torthak
@Torthak Жыл бұрын
You should treat each named area's like city's as far as services. IE: Hawthorne Grove Police Department, (HGPD) Hawthorne Grove Fire Department (HGFD) Hawthorne Grove Regional Medical Center (HGRMC) ETC
@mnkyboy0505
@mnkyboy0505 Жыл бұрын
U Need More diversity in your zones. Mix 4x2 4x4 3x2 etc… its magic
@Grazyfarmer
@Grazyfarmer Жыл бұрын
You have to make districts and tell them to only collect from the district. Otherwise they collect from the neightbors. But they forget to Menton it in the turtorials.
@phill.dct1
@phill.dct1 Жыл бұрын
Make a busline that goes into the district that compliments the tram line. So there is not a lot off traffic.
@RuiDonizete
@RuiDonizete Жыл бұрын
you need to pause the game before buldozing and then you buldoze, so that the game will not try to fill the pre existing gap with a new building with the same size
@Tigerpanzer6666
@Tigerpanzer6666 Жыл бұрын
just saying the building attachment fro this building can be placed in the landfill area 2:14
@armitas666
@armitas666 Жыл бұрын
you can place trees on roads with one of the road tools, next to the grass placing you used ;) - you missed it
@Strickland1992
@Strickland1992 Жыл бұрын
A huge problem with your traffic could be due to trams, try building subways instead of trams
@LordFyrestone
@LordFyrestone Жыл бұрын
The fact that you can "Empty" the landfill is one thing BUT when it's got like only ONE dump truck, it doesn't make sense?
@kyranharris-williams1209
@kyranharris-williams1209 Жыл бұрын
The One thing that bugs me is that first A college doesn’t make sense to be in a busy, loud city but it should be in the suburbs and the city layout is cursed
@kyranharris-williams1209
@kyranharris-williams1209 Жыл бұрын
Same with the road layout
@Tayto4Life
@Tayto4Life Жыл бұрын
Good video
@ohleander02
@ohleander02 Жыл бұрын
"We only have 69...heh, I had to..." I really love your personality. So much. Lol.
@aboxoftentacles1395
@aboxoftentacles1395 Жыл бұрын
Still an issue for me. One commercial building had infinite not enough customers, despite me growing 700 population but no commercial buildings.
@jonasnielsen979
@jonasnielsen979 Жыл бұрын
The one victim you actually zoom in on and his name is Dillan... ouch
@ApatheticNonbuynary
@ApatheticNonbuynary Жыл бұрын
The garbage is definitely bugged. I just didn't bother build them at all. It automatically export without any cost. It's kind of a cheat, but the game's a buggy mess. So, imo it's fairplay.
@rickyhill2341
@rickyhill2341 Жыл бұрын
Can we please seeeeee Linden Hights at Night!🌗
@01dixieforever01
@01dixieforever01 Жыл бұрын
I never built a garbage place and it’s cheeper and less of a headache to ship it out right now.
@jeremiashelminen9542
@jeremiashelminen9542 Жыл бұрын
I dont see any idea to use any other than smallest parking lot, because if you want money back from parking spaces you need= 50 = 15€ 60 = 16€ 135 = 37€ 321 = 46€ Per parking space
@otolock
@otolock Жыл бұрын
I have a 50K city with a single, un-upgraded incineration plant, and I don't have any garbage collection issues. No idea why, since it seems like everyone else is having problems.
@Oswald_Thatendswald
@Oswald_Thatendswald Жыл бұрын
I started a new game and didn't even have garbage bc I forgot and it said I was good so it's def bugged lol
@elspell44
@elspell44 Жыл бұрын
My man, you have MAXED demand for everything and your other services are dire need of attention and you are worried about small gaps between building and putting paths. I get wanting to have attention to detail but you got to also play the game too.
@zieteniere7500
@zieteniere7500 Жыл бұрын
you don't need to do either of those things. just delete the landfill and rebuild every once in a while
@dr.bherrin
@dr.bherrin Жыл бұрын
Everyone complaint about performance, but this game is so broken in so many places that has nothing to do with performance.
@F_Flex
@F_Flex Жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert: you are going to need like 10 of these incineration plants in the future 😂 I have 8 at this point
@DanielVNZ
@DanielVNZ Жыл бұрын
you cant reduce the landfill size as its full, as it gets emptier you can reduce it
@DanielVNZ
@DanielVNZ Жыл бұрын
oh you figured it out ahaha
@tster
@tster Жыл бұрын
Why is it so hard for to see where the upgrades would go and build accordingly? It's feel like pulling teeth everytime you skip it to build roads around the object. It's not like your hurting for cash so why not upgrade?
@zviper
@zviper Жыл бұрын
I might be wrong but i feel like the city is just import all the extra. Filling the capacity
@cmkw3370
@cmkw3370 Жыл бұрын
Awesome work!
@aste_-vv5ut
@aste_-vv5ut Жыл бұрын
It’s not variety, it’s ~contrast~ 😂
@georgecoverdale9396
@georgecoverdale9396 Жыл бұрын
Well have console players still get day1 or will we be shafted as per normal
@Tedger
@Tedger Жыл бұрын
Losing levelled buildings really hurts population.. trying to have double the lots available that gets evicted...
@RAI-1911
@RAI-1911 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the entertainment as always :)
@madofgaming5242
@madofgaming5242 Жыл бұрын
they fixed the not enough customers BUT they added the post trucks - vans non spawming bug
@Runic2584
@Runic2584 Жыл бұрын
if you delete the landfill when is full, it will delete the garbage too
@AdamBowersDeveloper
@AdamBowersDeveloper Жыл бұрын
I love your videos but your zoning gives me anxiety 😂😂
@1_wolfpack409
@1_wolfpack409 Жыл бұрын
Sims 4?
@zaqsmith6155
@zaqsmith6155 Жыл бұрын
A big focus on redevelopment rather than development
@digestiveleaf
@digestiveleaf Жыл бұрын
You didn't check ground water or recources before you build waste treatment and garbage disposal
@arnogloden5159
@arnogloden5159 Жыл бұрын
Subways would be so nice!
@olinshaw
@olinshaw Жыл бұрын
I just wanted to thank you for your content.
@nafsiammara
@nafsiammara Жыл бұрын
Garbage and mail is tanked.
@eastonday9374
@eastonday9374 Жыл бұрын
Bro the update messed up my city now everyone in my city says they do not have enough customers
@Xenwing
@Xenwing Ай бұрын
I'm watching you videos, yes I'm a 11 months behind. But I am screaming at my tv, why do you keep removing houses. Cities:Skylines 2 needs an undo button. But keep up the great job, love watching you build in this game.
@asiffuad596
@asiffuad596 Жыл бұрын
Increase the tram ticket prices.
@Tedger
@Tedger Жыл бұрын
Heh..in CO country there are no police helicopters.. only medihelis 🙂
@alcapone2990
@alcapone2990 Жыл бұрын
You should check on the one lady that had bad income you followed
@blackmark2899
@blackmark2899 Жыл бұрын
I think your trash problem is less that it's bugged and more that your available service and processing is nowhere near keeping up with your trash production
@_barskii
@_barskii Жыл бұрын
Personally, I think they released the game too early. They should have done more testing because of how many bugs there were. And the performance issues still need fixed. I have to play on decently low settings on my high-end PC. But to be fair, my PC parts are not the best (Specifically my CPU).
@mustyaslan99
@mustyaslan99 Жыл бұрын
Well, honestly, even though I have bought ryzen 9 7900x with rx 6950 xt and 64 gb ram, I still play on low settings and really annoys me
@_barskii
@_barskii Жыл бұрын
@@mustyaslan99 I honestly think that the game uses MAINLY your GPU. I am fixing to get a RTX 4060 but I need to upgrade my motherboard, PSU, and CPU which will cost an extra 500$ USD. The RTX 4060 that I am looking to buy is currently 320$ USD so it is going to make a dent in my wallet. I just hate how big of a toll that the game takes on PC.
@justinjolly8385
@justinjolly8385 Жыл бұрын
Love this but if I was living in your city road ways would be my issues
@frrrfrrr9177
@frrrfrrr9177 Жыл бұрын
My city is bugged, for some reason the ai is moving really slow but the game fps is perfectly fine, even at 3x speed the ai like traffic and everything that moves is super slow, help because its annoying
@oscarwoodburn6360
@oscarwoodburn6360 Жыл бұрын
How on earth do you have so many high density housing, i can build 2 at most then demand drops forever
@LulfsBloodbag
@LulfsBloodbag Жыл бұрын
There are two ways to get high density builds. The cheesy way, or the legit way. The legit way is to have a college and university as students drive up medium and high density demand. The cheesy way is don't zone any housing other than high and eventually the game forces homes to be built where avaliable
@MrTaylork1
@MrTaylork1 Жыл бұрын
Yeah if you ignore the green bar for ldr, eventually demand will be so high that rent will be completely unaffordable and people will start asking for higher density as that is all they can afford.
@cmdr_stretchedguy
@cmdr_stretchedguy Жыл бұрын
Protip: Discord causes game crashes, completely exit Discord before playing the game.
@graysenhoppin4544
@graysenhoppin4544 Жыл бұрын
Played all day yesterday in discord and didn’t have any problems
@mnkyboy0505
@mnkyboy0505 Жыл бұрын
Uneed More roundabouts
@Starmanhistory
@Starmanhistory Жыл бұрын
im here for it
@hugh2778
@hugh2778 Жыл бұрын
I’m here for it
@bradhaughton6698
@bradhaughton6698 Жыл бұрын
Why not upgrade some of the services?
@Liamshavingfun
@Liamshavingfun Жыл бұрын
Did you do train stops yet?
@marcotomiri3440
@marcotomiri3440 Жыл бұрын
I'm making more money then before, 260k people is the limit in 1x speed for my 11900k, i can't increase my city anymore :(
@vilarnl
@vilarnl Жыл бұрын
They did not fix it. All ratios in various areas of the game are far from what it should be. I tried to run a city without issues. But 1 small change and the whole city falls apart
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