Confronted For Wearing a Veil at Mass? w/ Amber Rose

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[@sherimelton3178]

A man stopped me going into church last.week and thanked me so much for wearing a veil! It made my day!

[@sherimelton3178]

@EMB123 hahahahaha -- that’s so funny! As a 76 year old, I am perfectly satisfied with just pleasing our Lord. I was in Adoration chapel decades ago when I heard a distinct voice say “Would you wear the veil?”. I said in my mind Of Course and immediately went home to research why I was asked to wear the veil. I was led to read the 2nd Vatican council documents, and was shocked at how many changes had occurred, including the veil, that were not sanctioned by the council.

[@sherimelton3178]

@EMB123 if you only knew what you don’t know now……….

[@apalsnerg]

@EMB123 Most men nowadays would much prefer women go scantily-clad and sexily. Men who appreciate women veiling appreciate it - I would hope - because they appreciate righteousness, not because they have some weird burqa fetish.

[@ImperatorCaesar22]

@EMB123 Sometimes you can really just tell someone is broken and lost. That's you

[@kirbykaeufer4104]

@Oliver Jones 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@jamchiell]

When I went to Mass in Japan loads of women veiled during the Novus Ordo Mass and much of the liturgy was chanted -- really beautiful.

[@SturFriedBrains]

Where in Japan? I heard most of the Japanese Church was "lukewarm." Veiling is a sign of a people who take Mass seriously! I'm thinking of living out there for a year or two, so this would be helpful to have a reverent parish.

[@chriskyle151]

Beautiful but are you Indian?

[@TheJewishCatholic]

I can attest to this. I live in Tokyo and there are several women that veil. I pray that more ladies take up this beautiful practice.

[@JohnFromAccounting]

Spirituality and religiosity is accepted in Japan. It would flourish more without the Novus Ordo because of how doctrinally watered down it is, but they've survived without any sacraments for hundreds of years, so they can survive anything.

[@peterbayne7227]

@@SturFriedBrains Here is one in Fukuoka, Kyushu Japan: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j2HRfGuAlrF3bdk

[@beatricec9238]

First time I attended a TLM in jeans and crew tee as a woke adult, I felt great shame for not being veiled. And that shame intensified at the rail while receiving the Eucharist. And I immediately realised how important it was to be veiled and dress appropriately as a woman before God. My general dressing and appearance has since changed from that day. Deo Gratias

[@kemmow25]

I think it is a grace that you say the the difference. Good job for listening to your heart.

[@love2sing20101]

I dress fairly “trendy” outside of church but Mass, when in the House of God and the altar rail I take even more care. People mistake the “rules” of being “fancy” versus being modest. It is also good to embrace your femininity and masculinity. And it is so sad. That is not the requirement at all. People also act like we think women are supposed to be stupid and my family never discouraged me from learning or working. I am taking a break from school and work at the moment for my young children because thank God my husband can afford it right now. But I have a lot of my own ambitions as well.

[@johnalexis8284]

Pray for nonbelievers. Start with these two.

[@Saiyan585]

​​​@@johnalexis8284 Your bias speaks volumes, hypocrite.

[@jamboree615]

I first wore a veil back in 2006, before the tradition started coming back. Being only 20 years old, I was the youngest person going to daily Mass, wearing the veil, and I got a lot of looks from the older crowd and criticism from my family. The pressure eventually become too stressful, so I stopped wearing the veil. Back in 2017, I felt the Holy Spirit moving me to start veiling again, but I had a lot to overcome before I could bring myself to wear it. Finally, this year, my mom (one of the people who criticized me for veiling) bought me a brand new veil! It took me about a month, but I have FINALLY started wearing the veil again and I am at peace with it.

[@MrsScott-bx8sb]

For those who want to cover their heads, but deal with anxiety over it, there are options. The Church doesn't say it HAS to be a traditional lace veil. I currently use wide headbands. Hats are acceptable as well. I use scarves as well. It doesn't have to be a black or white veil. Someone in the comments here mentioned wearing a veil that matches her hair color so she doesn't feel like she stands out. I've also found that there are many women who want to veil but don't want to be the only one. All it takes is one brave woman to veil at Mass regularly and the others start to feel comfortable enough to express their convictions, too.

[@Merethekat]

I’m veiling or wear a hat most every Mass so far no feedback oh well

[@danacaro-herman3530]

@jamboree615. Your family has a lot to learn from a young woman like yourself. I'll leave it at that. And since when should we care about what others think about us?

[@enlosluceros7236]

I did it in my town which is a really small village in northern Spain. No one wore it, just me. I got stares from old women but my family was supportive. My grandma even asked me if I could get one for her, she used to veil when she was younger during the 40's and 50's, so it brought her memories and she loved that I adopted it. But I felt like other people were judging on me, either shocked, surprised or just unsure why I did that being younger than them. Whatever the reaction is I'm still doing it and now I'm kinda starting to think about wearing it on a daily basis on a more casual and not obvious way. Way to go, you shouldn't care what others think about it. It's always tough to be the first one, but they eventually start to follow you.

[@javierduenasjimenez7930]

​@@enlosluceros7236 Palabras textuales (más o menos) de mi madre: "Yo nunca llevaría velo en misa porque eso se hacía antes para que los hombres no te miraran con deseo". Es decir, en una sola frase mi madre despreció una prenda que sirve para dar respeto a la presencia de Cristo en la eucaristía con esa explicación, ya que hoy en dia solo se asocia usar velo con las mujeres musulmanas, que básicamente si lo hacen con ese motivo. Nunca vas a dejar de ser objeto de juicio por tomar esa decisión. Y es que esas decisiones y muestras de valor y fe son las que Dios más aprecia y valora. Un saludo.

[@Juliajustjoined]

It’s funny that when you wear a beautiful veil at the church some people act like you are being weird woman but when someone is not respecting the dress code of the church and wears something so immodest people think they should mind their own business

[@padlily2485]

I always found that weird. Women can wear short jeans to Mass no issue but when a woman veils, she’s a rigid “traditionalist”

[@MrsScott-bx8sb]

Funny story, I used to have a dark gray wool dress that I would wear to Mass in wintertime. I would pair it with a black veil and people would stare at me. I wondered why and realized I looked like a postulant! I've seen all sorts of dress at Mass, but the one, I think, that takes the cake was an older woman (50s, early 60s in age) who would regularly do the readings and be a Eucharistic Minister, wore a miniskirt with thigh high boots to Mass. Now THAT was distracting! It looked totally out of place next to the priest in his vestments.

[@mariaregina3290]

Lol this is so true!

[@TheLeftRbabieskillers]

The irony of it... huh?

[@Saiyan585]

I think it's more mental. You think they're looking at you differently and they're not. I sit back and see both veiled and non veiled just doing their part. I admire veiled women at mass. Literally every depiction of the Blessed Mary is of her being veiled, and every woman was throughout church history until 5 minutes ago.

[@SilverCottage]

I converted to Catholicism from a Hindu faith. I was actually in a convent when I read about the saints. Whenever we went into meditation time and prayers most of us wore a shawl of some kind over our heads. In that tradition, it is called a chadhar. It felt very much like you were giving yourself some privacy from the eyes of others so that you could concentrate on your prayers and your meditation much easier, so I am rather in favor of veiling now that I am Catholic. I have never seen anyone veiled in any of the parishes I have attended in the town where I live, but now that I am disabled and mostly homebound, I veil when I meditate at home. It isn't about what other people think. It is about what God thinks.

[@leticiavelasquez]

Great discussion. I’m a veiled attendee of reverent NO and traditional Masses. I resumed veiling as an act of rebellion to masking. My logic was “if I have to wear a face covering for the Bishop, the least I can do is veil for Our Lord.”

[@bluewhale2600]

Interesting point

[@ohwhataday7171]

Wearing my veil for mass, adoration, and even just stopping to sit for awhile in the church makes me have less or no distractions so I can focus my thoughts and prays to the Lord.

[@joane24]

You can't just 'mimic modesty', it has to come deeply from the heart, otherwise it's like putting an external mask. Veils are indeed beautiful, but they shouldn't be viewed as external accessories, but rather wearing them should come out of the purity and modesty deeply in the heart.

[@jasonchase4252]

Amen

[@claustelmach5305]

Not all true, like they say fake it until you make it, on the contrary please encourage women to vail.

[@MsDormy]

Agree with Claustelmach - if you don’t initially feel the reverence coming from within your heart, go with the actions and traditions and the feeling will come. Like CS Lewis suggests, if you don’t initially feel the LOVE for God with your whole heart, as Jesus asks us to, act as if you do…. These things lead us to God.

[@joane24]

@@MsDormy What I was talking about in my post, it's not about a mere feeling, it's about will and intention. You can also have the will and intention without feelings/emotions

[@BalthasarCarduelis]

​@@joane24The way we pray is the way we believe. Discouraging women to veil only because they don't yet share your will to be humble sounds dangerously like discouraging servile fear where filial fear hasn't yet developed. It also puts you in danger of self-righteousness, which is pride, which is contrary to your assertion. I want to see women covering their heads in public again, and that's not going to happen if we're bullying them for even covering their heads in mass.

[@lily-aero-g]

I love using veils. In Mexico wearing veils at church is common. My mom was raise to used veils at church and she kept the tradition even here in the States.

[@AnnPalmer-u7k]

Hi I’m a Deacon wife and I love the veil. I hope we as wife’s of A Deacon we are humbled by our journey. I’m so sorry to hear about your experience with other Wives of A Deacon in parishes you have attended. ❤

[@SaltedHope]

I'm grateful for this episode. I want to have a deeper walk in my faith and have thought of wearing a veil many times but feel silly. I'm definitely going to be wearing one. I think it's a beautiful symbolism of faith and encourages others to go deeper.

[@mayraguzman9859]

I've been going through a rough time healing and letting go. I've been attending a TLM since 2019 and I've veiled since then. Recently I've been struggling with my faith and have been very angry at God that I stopped veiling. I wanted to rebel and stop covering my hair as a form of un-submission. This led me to stop praying, stop receiving communion, and overall pushing God away. People at my parish started to question why I stopped. They knew something was wrong. I have a lovely community that loves me and encourages me. I had several women talk to me, pray for me and encourage me to continue seeking God. One lady reminded me how beautiful it was to veil. She sent me articles and bible verses to encourage and remind me that I am a precious child of God. I had forgotten how precious we are and how God calls us to be sacred and modest. This touched me and helped me realized how special I am. I started veiling again thanks to the women who inspire me and encourage me to give God glory through my submission.

[@vonhalberstadt3590]

Hang in there Kid.

[@carolereichert8844]

This is beautiful !

[@jenniferrinaldi8808]

I'm Byzantine Catholic and never veiled. I'm in my early 40s so I wasn't raised with it. I do remember a few of the women that my grandmother was friends with in the parish doing it. I had been thinking about it and came across a Instagram page of a young Catholic mother that embroiders veils. She created one with Saint Joan embroidered on the back (it's a black veil with gold lace and gold embroidery) and I purchased it. I got it in the mail today and put it on in front of my mother. When she was younger, she would have to wear something on her head for Mass, even if it was a bobby pinned napkin, as she was in Catholic school. After seeing the veil today, I think she may be purchasing one of her own now.

[@thereserivera7691]

Can you share how to contact this dear lady who embroiders these veils. I have several colors & try that coordinate with what I am wearing, but mostly fall back into my black veils-- veils help me to focus on prayer, our Lord & the Mass without distractions🙂

[@cynthiax56]

A young lady in my family was copnfronted by a priest in winstead minnesota and he made her feel bad for wearing a veil, and to be honest about it, it made me angry when I heard about it, but did not know about it at the time that it happened, or I would have complained about him. I thought it was a mean thing for him to do

[@sandstorm7768]

"You veil things that are holy." That's why I've always loved veils/nuns so much!! ❤ The precious deserves protecting. Veils are ironically very "pretty" if that makes sense. The world says to expose expose expose, with no shame or humbleness at all, and it gets very garish and repulsive. But chastity and modesty is so lovely in an inner beauty kind of way. The ability to say "no" simply and reservedly is such a wonderful, nobly-enticing thing that all the skin in the world could never hope to achieve.

[@sharonj.m.j.2382]

Well said!

[@stephk8987]

I first heard of veiling through Dr. Taylor Marshall and learned more through A Catholic Wife. Bought a few and it’s a growing collection. Biggest thing for me was thinking of myself- that I’d be a distraction in a white veil in the front row. I go to NO and more and more women are veiling which is wonderful! I purchased a brown veil to match my hair a little more and that helped me overcome that mental hurdle.

[@julieburck9613]

Uh oh I’m a convert and I saw a pretty white one that I bought and I’ve been wearing. Lol I’m married. 😂

[@stephk8987]

@@julieburck9613 As long as you like it you’re fine! The color isn’t a big deal these days. I have other veils that are black, gold trim, purple, pink, or blue.

[@jellybelly7629]

Thanks for the idea God bless

[@sarahbrown2789]

@@julieburck9613 In the church I go to I see lots of married women wearing white.

[@sarahbrown2789]

I usually wear my black one for the same reason - to not stand out as much. I'm looking into buying a brown/bronze one to also wear to more closely match my dark auburn hair.

[@millier.206]

I’m orthodox and probably half of us women wear a veil. At first I was scared and a couple American women said “aren’t you hot in that?” (My sister is Muslim and that’s probably the statement she gets most 😂) but now no one says saying. Sometimes people look at my veil and then smile at me. I’m thankful for their encouragement. I just feel like it’s such a small gesture and it’s so easy to do (I don’t mean mentally easy but physically). So I thought, why not do this for the Lord?

[@lizmiddleton2382]

Thank you so much for the great answer. My mother always wore it and now, I am wearing it too! It's reverence for God. 😇 God Bless 🙌

[@WellWithJoy]

Not all Deacons wives would act in this manner. I am a Deacon’s wife and I veil at the Novus Ordo Mass I attend. I am the only one that does at my Parish. 😊 As a wife of a Deacon, I have never considered myself in a position to judge, let alone correct others on what they choose to wear.

[@tracyann7503]

I am a deacon's wife too, surprised to hear that they act in this manner. Sometimes i wear a veil, sometimes i don't. But i am sorry to hear that deacon's wives are seen this way. Hope and pray i don't mirror that.

[@sharonjuenemann2106]

I have bought a couple veils and am going to start veiling. Might do it for Lent then just never take it off. Only one woman at the NO mass I regularly attend at my home parish veils. Down the road only one or two veil as well. I know some of my family would make fun of me for veiling because it is "Old Fashioned", but they are hours away so I don't care.

[@elizabetho7654]

​@@sharonjuenemann2106 I veil and we attend a novus ordo 1970s, non-orthodox Catholic Church. I'm the only one in the room except for my daughter who veils and I love it. If anyone gives me a hard time, I remind them that Mary veiled all the time and always appeared with a veil in her apparitions no matter in what time period she was appearing.

[@txhippo]

I’m not a deacon’s wife, I don’t veil, and I’ve never had a bad experience with a deacon’s wife (or anyone else at church). I just find it hypocritical that the host and his guest talk about holiness throughout this clip, but then make these comments about deacons’ wives and “Susan from the parish council.” If she’s having that many problems with people at her church, it might be time for her to self-reflect.

[@sarahbrown2789]

My mom and her sisters were going through my grandma's house after she died. They were throwing things into the middle of the living room floor they wanted to throw away. I was going through it seeing if I wanted anything. I found a box with several of her embroidered handkerchiefs and chapel veils. I took them and started using the veils at home while praying and reading the Scripture. I didn't have the courage to attend my NO mass while wearing one, though. However, I recently started going to TLM weekly and am wearing them. Wearing one reminds me of my humility before the Lord, but it, also, makes me feel closer to my grandma since I know she wore them when she was my age.

[@Fierology]

I've attended Mass throughout my life and never thought terribly much about whether or not women were veiled. It didn't seem too significant. Then I attended an Ethiopian Orthodox service with a friend and found a new perspective. Every woman there was veiled. It reduced distraction and assisted with focus on the Mass. It's worth noting the women were otherwise modestly dressed, too.

[@deborahparise5566]

Wearing a veil makes me self-conscious and takes my attention from the Mass. It also draws attention to me because no one else is doing it so I stand out from others.

[@Deirdre-j9p]

I am for having a head covering at mass, but I feel it should NOT be a covering that attracts attention. Any head covering is fine.

[@Elfling26]

I had that worry too. Decided to start wearing a scarf or wide headband to begin with. No one is likely yo say anything at that and my head is still covered when I pray at home I always cover my head

[@theresabell4761]

I was asked if I was from the Middle East while at Mass last week and this was the very first time I wore a head covering. Granted, I was wearing a pashmina scarf, not a lace mantilla. It did not bother me that they thought I was middle eastern of course, it was more so that I had trouble finding the right words to explain why I was wearing it. The explanation given in this video was very helpful.

[@teece8558]

As a child in Catholic School we had Mass every day in the gym and I wore a black veil. From first grade through 4th grade. The past 10 years I so wanted to return to wearing my black veil for the reason of humility and in honor of Jesus present in the Holy Eucharist. But also because sometimes I become teary at the beauty of what is going on during mass, and I always wish I could hide so people would not watch me cry. The veil gives me a bit more privacy in that respect, yet I have had a few reprimanding looks from parishioners. This is just what my heart calls me to do. There is one other family with 13 children who are their veils and that gave me the extra confidence I needed to go out and purchase one.

[@dangmefinnish]

"Holy things are veiled" That is so sweet. I am a pentecostal and I wear a head covering (not required by my church but very common) and this just resonates so deep. Edit: location: Ghana

[@Thedisciplemike]

Indeed. When we think of the Ark, or the Temple, even the Eucharist is "veiled" so to speak with a napkin over the cup before being presented. Christ was veiled under the earth for 3 days, we are veiled in water for baptism, the world was veiled in darkness before the light, Moses was veiled when he saw God, etc etc

[@katiebarron6239]

I and a friend, were confronted by our Pastor. I asked if he was forbidding us to veil. He said no, but if you do, you will be in disobedience. He has now moved on, so I felt I needed to ask “permission” from our new Pastor. He said I did not need anyones permission to wear the veil.

[@joane24]

I don't think the priest has that kind of power over parishioners. He may give advice on it, but can't forbid it. As a lay person you're not bound to such kind of obedience. It's a matter of personal devotion.

[@michellemcdermott2026]

I would have found another parish

[@katiebarron6239]

@@michellemcdermott2026 He was the Pastor of all three Parishes in our area. There was no place to go.

[@katiebarron6239]

@@joane24 I did not realize that at the time. I am 77 and was always taught being obedient to your confessor, was being obedient to God.

[@michellemcdermott2026]

@@katiebarron6239 I am sorry Katie. So sorry.

[@Savedsister]

I have always found it fascinating that any person would be offended at me wearing a veil. I see people in Mass wearing scanty clothing, ripped jeans, ect. I would never approach them to criticize. I am not the Holy Spirit. I do not agree with their immodest choices, but I pray for them.I do not think myself better than them. When my parish priest says nothing to them but approachs me about not veiling, because I draw attention to myself, I am shocked. Seriously! I still veil. I can not be manipulated to disobey my conscience in being modest. My veil is a gift. A womans sacred gift. It is my little chapel within the cathedral. I am focused and undistracted in my worship. ❤ God bless all women who choose to express their worship for God with this statement. And God bless those who do not.

[@wisewomanhealing]

When I was a Protestant (not known for doing much headcovering) the Lord took me through a time of covering. Not just during church but at home and also when I slept. The pastor of the church I was attending at that time, stood right in front of me and gave an aggressive sermon against women covering their heads! 🙄

[@marcihf217]

Isn't there a passage in the Bible about women covering their heads?

[@whenpiratesattack]

What

[@mimi_j]

Same but I wasn’t reprimanded for wearing them but when I started as a catholic, a woman scoffed at me after mass. 😬😬

[@SecondBestMom]

​​@@marcihf217 yes. 1 Corinthians chapter 11. Most people nowadays say the headcovering is the hair, but I've done a lot of research on the topic and believe it is referencing a separate headcovering from the hair.

[@SecondBestMom]

@Meliisa Bissop, I veil all day at home but do take it off in the evenings and when I sleep. for me it's mostly about my own vanity with my hair as well as modesty when I go out in public. I've only ever had curious comments, never anger or disgust from others with it.

[@inacastillo3953]

I've been veiling for about 8 years now, after seeing several teachers at my children's school veiling. I did not understand why, but I thought it was so beautiful and I was called to also veil. I learned later the beauty behind why we veil! However, I, too, was confronted by someone in my parish when I started veiling. It was not a deacon's wife, but someone I actually knew pretty well! She came up to me and said, "Why are you wearing THAT thing? Is HE (my then fiancé, now husband) oppressing you?!!" Yep, totally oppressing me *queue eye-roll*. I honestly love veiling at Mass. It is a way for me to respect and honor Jesus even more!

[@ColleenW2019]

Oh boy! These "feminists"" that think veiling is oppressing us. The feminist movement has done more to destroy femininity - not to mention manhood - than anything else. I know because I was in on the ground floor of the whole feminist movement in the 70s. I've had nothing but compliments since I started veiling over a year ago in my NO parish, but then most of them are from the days when veiling was mandatory. Usually I'm the only one at daily Mass that veils, but a few veil at the Sunday Mass. It shows respect and reverence for God in His House.

[@XeroJC2000]

as a Deacon in the Church and as a TLM Goer, Im sorry for your experiences with My Brothers and their Wives... Awesome Interview Brother, Keep On Keeping On #NETOzAlumni

[@kzizzles8329]

Are you a deacon for the TLM? Thank you for your service to the Church

[@XeroJC2000]

@@kzizzles8329 i am not i am assigned to a Novus Ordo Parish, but on my weekends off i sit in Choir at our Local TLM parish. i am still learning, in hopes that i can serve as a deacon or sub deacon at a mass in the future. Thank You for your Kind words, and know of my Prayers for you and your family +PAX CHRISTI

[@TurtleSquirrles]

I started wearing a veil a little while ago and went back and forth on it because one of my guy friends would talk about it in a sexist way, but now I don’t care anymore 😂 I see it as empowering, and it makes me look a bit nicer when I go to church

[@mommab1969]

Years ago,I began to have visions of myself at the foot of the cross always wearing a veil. I didn't understand but always felt this beautiful feeling come over me. I felt so close to Him. I must admit it took a long time for me to be obedient to what I felt I was being called to by Our Heavenly Father. Only certain much older European women in our parish wore them. When one of the last of these woman passed away, I said OK Lord I will do this. Please help me to be strong and withstand what may come my way. Oh yes I got stares and questions as I now was the only one veiling. Years later, young woman and girls are starting to also. Asking their parents for one. Every time I find myself moved to tears and I rejoice, praying that the numbers increase. What a beautiful and humbling way to show your love for Him. At first hesitant, now I am joyfully thankful for another way to show my love for Our Lord. Blessings to you both +JMJ pray for us.

[@jennettedowler3145]

I have veiled at adoration for a couple of years and recently felt called to veil at weekly mass.

[@thomaspeacock7248]

I’m a sacristan at my parish. My pastor stopped veiling the chalice as soon as he arrived. The previous pastor alway did. Now, no one can find the veils. Our tabernacle isn’t veiled either. But, it is in the center of the high altar and not hidden away in a side chapel. Many of our older parishioners use veils and I’m glad to see them.

[@janetplonka8110]

When the Lord called me to veil. HE said asked your husband what color he would like to see me wear. He said please don’t wear black but navy. I heard black is for when your husband dies. I have multiple veils for different occasions. I do like the idea of wearing a light blue veil on Marion devotions days. Thank you Amber Rose & Matt Fradd

[@amandawellsvenegas7024]

I like to wear a prayer veil sometimes because it symbolizes God’s covering and protection over me.

[@HoracePL]

I don't understand. Here in Europe it's normal for women to wear something over their head to mass. Not ALL women do it, but a lot of them do. I'm speaking specifically about catholic mass as I'm catholic myself. I hope God will show you the way and give you confidence in what you do.

[@gibbs9434]

Depends. On novus ordo in France I think I never saw a veiled woman (except religious). Even in diocesan latin masses most women are not veiled (but FSSPX or FSSP it is almost every woman).

[@gibbs9434]

Which country do you live in ?

[@kzizzles8329]

In America we were hit hard by the 60s

[@Nunwannabe1234]

Thank you for this, I have started wearing a veil recently and it was difficult for me because I felt like I actually stood out. Not that I blended in. There were only a few other women at Mass wearing a veil and I didn't know all the history and rules. So I was also wondering what color to wear and all that. I ended up with a light pink one and a white one. Which I guess is wrong because I am married. Anyway, I had to talk to the priest about it because I felt like I was standing out and trying to look more pious than other people but he said you should never worry about stuff like that. Do what God is calling you to do!

[@USMC98]

Great priestly advice.

[@jeanb.5405]

Don't get caught up in the colors and expectations of style or anything like that. A woman should wear a veil if it is something in her heart that says she should because she is before the Lord. Or as a witness that He is truly in the tabernacle. A simple veil should not be too ornate, too glittery, too showy so that all the women are looking at it and admiring it instead of being focused on God. Black, Gray, Navy. Keep it simple because Jesus was simple in all He did.

[@patriciajohnson1894]

​@@jeanb.5405 I wear mantillas but also scarves. Bought different coloured chiffon material for my head overing , one can sew some lace edging on it and some thicker material for winter months

[@jeanb.5405]

@@patriciajohnson1894 Veil, Scarf, lace, Shawl, Hat, it makes no difference what it is called. I am not saying a scarf can't be pretty of course it can, I am saying don't make it the reason you / others wear it. I bought lace cheap and hand crocheted an edge around it all the way around.

[@398robin]

When I attended NO Mass at my last parish, we had a Catholic priest who was from Ghana. He invited people to this church. The women were veiled. I thought, wow I have never seen this and I thought this was such a beautiful act of humility. Parishioners should never judge another for wearing a veil. Those who do judge, I find, are the ones who think they are better than everybody else. Just pray for them.

[@triciagarea9576]

People judge you if you don't wear a head covering. I loved the Latin Mass but I was tired of comments to conform to there Vatican One ways. I am so sad of this division. Jesus l Trust In you Amen

[@patriciajohnson1894]

​​@@triciagarea9576 it really should be a personal choice. One is not better than the other. I attend NO Mass and I grew up with mantillas, stopped in my teens, I started the devotion again about 8yrs ago. I received a few comments but I just smiled I wasn't going to justify why I'm covering if you don't have the decency to ask and I was not going to be nasty either. Now everyone settled down, they are used to see me with my head covered. I really do see more women... not lots but definitely more women covering their heads. We only have one Sspx in Cape Town, so we are not spoilt for choice when it comes to tlm Mass's. We only have NO but we can't complain as the priests are quite reverent. If you are called to veil, do so, the parishioners will get used to it. It's not about pride or being different, it's devotional.❤

[@lquinn410]

Protestant here. I've only veiled once when I attended TLM with my grandparents, but this has become an area of interest to me as I recently learned the position on head covering that I learned from a non- denominational/Baptist pastor isn't even one of the mainstream interpretations of the Corinthian passage that tells women to cover their heads. My question to you is, if Paul tells women to cover their heads, how is it a personal choice?

[@winall9]

St John Cantius Church is very beautiful. I am from Malaysia and I used to watch their masses online when our churches were closed

[@BlueNaru9]

I am a convert but fell in love with the beauty of the Vail even before my conversion. I have had people complament on the Vail and more than a few dirty looks by Suesan's (even saved by a fellow veteran and K of C when I went by my self and a gaggle of Suesan's tried to come up and say something about my vail). I have them in the basic colors and liturgical colors. I'm always self conscious about my most beautiful Vail I made for feast day as I feel like I stick out even more with this Red vail on but ironically young women have seen me sticking out in that vail and it sparked them to research the practice of vailing and they start wearing a vail to mass. I had one of the young women not known that red Vail was me and start a conversation with me over one of my basic antique veils only to tell me about the red Vail at mass and how it got them thinking then they where surprised when I sheepishly admitted that the in your face red Vail was me which prompted them to encourage me to continue using my feast day red vail.

[@ashledashnaw2575]

Veils are beautiful.

[@Lunabee834]

I really love that we have an option. It’s nothing for or against vails but I think making those that don’t vail feel bad is not where I’d like to see this go.

[@joane24]

If you feel called to wear a veil, by all means, do it. If, however, that starts to grow the pride in your heart, then be careful. Sometimes, sadly, it's not really about modesty, deeply in the heart, but about showing off. But it can be a beautiful habit to cultivate, when coming out of the purity of the heart!

[@jessramirez5721]

Deacons wife 🤣 That is so relatable to me! I was once at our Deacon’s house picking up my kids and I made a comment along the lines of “We have to go, I need to make it to confession today.” She looked at me so puzzled and asked “Why? What did you do to HAVE to go to confession?”. I just laughed and told her bye. I think she was serious and wanted to know. 🤣🤣 It was so awkward but I felt the same, she thought she had some kind of power or rights over these things. I’ll never forget that day.

[@DevilDog2019]

At Deacon's wife is kind of like a military wife using her husband's rank, LMAO

[@theamericancristero7390]

To the women saying this is equivalent to Islam, here's Islam "O Prophet! Enjoin your wives, your daughters, and the believing women that they should cast their outer garments over their persons (when abroad): That is most convenient, that they may be distinguished and not be harassed." - Quran 33:59 Islam requires veiling in public bc apparently men can't refrain from harassing unvelied woman. Veiling in Catholicism is about modesty during mass. Stop being dramatic.

[@Triscath]

@EMB123 that's so no true. Catholicism does NOT view women as objects. The Catholic Church respects and upholds femininity and womanhood to the highest degree possible. How about you read the Cathechism and see for yourself? Don't forget that the most pure and noble and privileged creature that God has ever created is a woman 🙂

[@sayat_nova]

@EMB123 read jp2’s theology of the body. then we can talk. it’s not from the era of veiling either but women are very substantially revered as women, and as mothers and in a specific relation to god different from that of men, looking to mary as our guide to making ourselves, our lives, fully devoted vessels for what is gods will. just as men are lauded for their virtue in maleness when he is shouldering responsibility and physical labors burdens for his family’s survival and growth, his ability to protect and defend as a man is a different virtue than the role woman plays in christian theology which all comes down to the unit of the family and the roles of the sexes in that relationship that has been the formation of our modern society for most our history as humans.

[@anomalousviewer3164]

Strange they would say that as Christian (catholic) women have been covering (veiling) their heads for centuries before mohammed started islam.

[@atrifle8364]

@EMB123 - Blending two very different religions based on one outward practice that Islam got from Christianity is about you and too much feminism. For sure to attempt to think of them as even remotely the same because femininism says women are happiest and free running around nearly naked is about a closed, not an open mind. Some of the happiest and most peaceful people on the planet are fully habited nuns. (And why not? Their husband is the Son of God.) Maybe a rethink of what the culture has shoveled at all of us as base assumptions deserves a rethink.

[@atrifle8364]

@EMB123 - I adopted feminism's values in college. My sister pretty much only has that and all the values that corporations want her to have. One of the dogmas you were taught is that nobody has ever heard of this stuff, because otherwise they'd adopt it. Sorry, the views expressed here are about more than a century of deliberate "education" of the masses. Amazon and Walmart and elites want you to imagine you're a "rebel". It took me a while to undo the head games.

[@mariacomstock2618]

Wonderful Interview! Thank you!

[@myheroesofamerica719]

Beautiful interview

[@jamboree615]

I can say that I have met a variety of Deacons' wives: some who never seem to be at church, others who are extremely kind, and others who let the power go to their head. People are people, there are all kinds. 🤷

[@timrichardson4018]

I'm a few weeks into RCIA. I must be going to a fairly traditional church because about 60% of the women wear veils, and they offer a traditional Latin mass. Also, I go to the early mass which is the one that is done in Latin once per month, so maybe I just go to church with the more traditional members.

[@nativefraulein5801]

I wear a black lace hankerchief style veil to N.O mass and a black Spanish mantilla to TLM. Both styles are perfect for the occassion.

[@elizabethwalsh1479]

If you are called to veil, veil. Yep, there will people who will be nasty if you veil. It is lovely to attend a mass when you aren't the only woman in a veil. I'm old enough that when I was in the primary grades, my school still attended mass every morning...and, once you made your First Communion, you veiled. I went back to it about 8 years ago. I have a Holy Spirit story that I won't share here...but, trust me, if you are being called to veil, you will know it!

[@tabandken8562]

The worst I got from covering was from someone who asked where I was from.. I told her a state within the US. I was in another state. She said, "no, I mean, what country?", I said, "here" She asked because my covering was a black nylon scarf that I drapped on my head and wrapped the excess around my neck. It was all I had at the time. In 10 years I've never been confronted.

[@patriciajohnson1894]

I wear scarves too. My Go to response is too smile...the next person must deal with their own issues on the matter. If I'm asked why and the person genuinely wants to know my reason and respect why I'm doing regardless of their opinion, I respectfully respond and engage. Otherwise all you'll get is a smile and me moving on 😊

[@CaffeinatedBookwoorm]

I love this! I started veiling at mass for humility, and yes getting ready for church should be special. It’s a holy day and I want it to be different than just getting ready for work. I’m married and I have a black with gold trim and a sage green one. I also stopped wearing pants because I don’t want to accentuate my body. I get more compliments now! Modesty is in y’all

[@relentlessrhythm2774]

I'm 23 and just started veiling! At most, there are usually less than five women veiling at every mass I go to. I'm the youngest by a long shot too.

[@bryandonovan6779]

"Bring an offering, enter into His court, worship the Lord in Holy attire" Psalms 96. Amber Rose, I agree with all your comments about veiling. In this day and age it is an act of supreme humility for a woman to veil. Luckily for me I attend the TLM at a FSSP parish in New Hampshire and many woman veil, not all. I tell my sons to come to Mass to meet a woman that you could marry and that the ones that wear a veil are most likely "wife material". Of course I want my sons to go to Mass so that they can become "husband material".

[@erinreynoso6808]

Also, side note. In the past year, I've seen a 10 fold increase in the number of veils at the NO mass we attend

[@patriciajohnson1894]

It's definitely picking up. More women are covering their heads

[@birdman9265]

When I was still attending the NO I would get so many dirty looks from old ladies, and even had super rude comments from one. I no longer attend NO and I am surrounded by veiling at the TLM, thank goodness, but I find it so strange that veiling is controversial in my experience with the NO

[@ashledashnaw2575]

I wish there was a tlm in my area. Our state doesn't do tlm

[@mollytova4333]

I wasnraised Southern Baptist and I'm starting my conversion to Catholicism tomorrow. I'm making a veil. I have to make my own and it's going to b'é black and red ❤

[@jessica3285]

Thank you for the captions

[@JM-ij2nl]

I love wearing my veil. After my concentration to mother Mary a friend gifted me a veil which I considered a confirmation from Mary . Once I was approached for wearing it a norvos orbo but it did not sway me . I truely feel humbled and closer to God with it on . I highly recommend it!!!! God Bless

[@terrywilson8271]

Hi guys, i love your channels. I think that women in veils looks so nice and so reverend. My mom always had a hat or veil on in church and so did my six sisters. Why has this beautiful tradition gone. Today, no woman in our church even wear a hat. So many women wear inappropriate clothing. Tight jeans and figure hugging tops. It is very distracting for men when we are trying our best to follow the holy Mass.

[@martinrivera6770]

When we visited Dubai, UAE some years ago, we went to a Novus Ordo Mass and most of the women were veiled and everything there was more reverent than we’d ever experience before (this was before we knew anything about Latin Mass). I found it surprising that in a heavily dominant Muslim country, the few Catholics there really took their faith seriously, unapologetically, and with such reverence. It was a huge and beautiful parish too, they offered Mass times in 9 different languages! (Including Arabic)

[@TickleMeElmo55]

Do you remember the name of the parish by any chance?

[@pulsarpl]

I would never think that this really matters, but since I'm going to TLM where most of women wear veils and are virtually invisible, I found out that those who does not wear it actually draw my attention.

[@Corato4535]

I’m very blessed in my country where we have 1 TLM Mass per week (where it is rare in other parishes) and the rest of the liturgies in the parish are novus ordo but those of us who wear veils make no distinction in that we wear the veils at both of the liturgies because whether it is TLM or novus ordo Jesus is still in the tabernacle and St Paul’s words still apply I believe ✝️🙏

[@melodyvecera1195]

Happened to me but she made a point to apologize the next day, which I appreciated very much. It did not deter me because I know why I am doing it. (Fortunately for us our deacons wives are super sweet. :)) I guess some from her generation tend to shy away from any tradition that seems "oppressive". We are blessed with a reverent NO and several ladies and their daughters veil. I have mostly gotten questions, especially from little girls. My daughter started wearing a veil/caplet after her first Holy Communion. Love this show! You have the best guests!

[@hammerheadms]

Some churches won't let you into the nave if you dressed immodestly or didn't wear a veil. I have even heard of Russian Orthodox churches offering long skirts for ladies who wore pants, shorts, or miniskirts.

[@zoraidaiglesias934]

Yes I have watched this beautiful young lady and forward her videos to my daughter in law. God Bless her

[@cleansingyourbodysoul3383]

Almost all the women and girls wear a veil at my church. If you’re not wearing one as a woman you kind of stand out 😂

[@ksanto9797]

Grabbing popcorn to watch feminists flip out in the comments......

[@annie7264]

I started wearing a chapel veil..black since I’m married. I’m usually the only one at my Mass wearing a veil..sometimes there’s a couple older women who wear a veil.

[@aadamy]

I tell people I veil for Mama. I also veil out of submission like she said. The covering over my head has a physical effect on me too. It makes me quieter and ready to hear God. It has a special association. I don’t wear it anywhere else but when I’m in church or confession or adoration.

[@erinreynoso6808]

Convert here... veiling because of the apostle Paul (saying women veil for the sake of the angels... not sure totally on that one) but also, my favorite analogy is that as woman, we embody the Church. Bride of Christ. So maybe us wearing a veil helps the spiritual battle on the side of light. Our Lady style. 😁

[@lynnp456]

I wear black even tho I am single , any color is fine ....jus stay away from neon colors I suppose but I always just love a black lace veil. It's not a fashion show at church so I find that when I wear a veil and obviously wear modest clothing I do not care and I am not thinking about how I look and that's awesome and how i hope it would be for all women AND men. Cool vid 🕊️👍🏻God bless you !

[@greatpretender83]

Wow hello there nice to see you here!

[@cn4492]

I veil at the Novus Ordo. I’m 64 and left the Catholic Church for 42 years. By the power of the Holy Spirit I returned. Vatican 2 and the 60’s revolution did much damage to The Church. No doubt. However, there is hope with the new young priests coming in. The understand beauty and authenticity. I’m greatly encouraged. Many of the priest in their mid- late 60’s and older are retiring. Thank goodness. Many are old hippies at heart and did much harm to the authentic traditional Catholic Church. Not to mention the liberal nuns who shed their habits. We know many of them were and are lesbians. Let’s just get real about that. Pray for all that they return to holiness. Pray for revival🙌🏻

[@steveisaak4320]

I attend parishes that only offer the Norvus Ordo. I am seeing more and more veils, it is kinda cool

[@mariawells8026]

This was lovely, thank you.

[@mariachijazmin3970]

I choose to veil when I converted this past Easter.

[@sedliberanosamaloamen]

Ever since I started veiling at mass, a sense of holiness has come to me and it is such a miraculous experience that only the grace of God can provide us.

[@coreymorgan1575]

I’m a deacon, and my wife and daughters veil for Holy Mass and adoration. I showed this to my wife and she was appalled, she definitely prefers to stay out of the lime light. As to those who say this is an example of the advantage of celibate clergy, I would say that there are plenty of celibate priests who would charitably confront a woman for wearing a veil. So while there are many great reasons for celibate clergy, I don’t think this is one at all. On another note, during our formation it was made clear to our wives that it was their husbands being ordained and not them.

[@161joanie]

Hey! I'm a Deacon's wife!! And I have been veiling for about 8 years. For many years I was the ONLY one veiling with the exception of an Hispanic woman every now and then. I was confronted by a Nun

[@michellemcdermott2026]

Was she wearing a habit?

[@feedogmummy496]

As a nun I most heartily apologise on behalf of my sister in religion. Please do follow the guidance of the Holy Spirit in this beautiful devotion. 💗

[@kentfrederick8929]

Ok, I'm a Protestant. I thought before Vatican II, a woman needed to wear a hat and sleeves. I remember Catholic friends telling me about their mothers having to wear dresses with sleeves to mass in the summer, while sanctuaries were lacking A/C. Sleeveless dresses were a no-no, even though they were acceptable to wear in an office.

[@carolereichert8844]

Our Blessed Mother tells us that many women will be judged severely for the sin of immodesty. In this world people don't even know what immodest is anymore. Our arms, knees and heads should be covered if we are doing it for reverence of Jesus. Just as a comment to women wearing a sleeve to the elbow 50 years ago, with no air conditioning, think about before that, dresses to the ankle, sleeves to the wrist, men wore suits and did not remove the jackets and there was no air conditioning. 😁 We can all stand to suffer a little more for our Saviour. God bless everyone🥰

[@kentfrederick8929]

@@carolereichert8844 The suffering thing sounds very Southern Baptist. And a woman covering her head sounds very Islamic.

[@carolereichert8844]

@@kentfrederick8929 sorry I know nothing about Southern Baptists. Was a few protestant religions before I found the one true faith but Baptist wasn't one of them.

[@cee-emm]

@@kentfrederick8929 Both men & women are supposed to dress modestly in church i.e. no shorts/short sleeves for men, no immodest clothing on women and veiling for women. It sounds Islamic to you because Protestantism is younger than Islam, but Christianity is much older than Islam. When you see an Islamic head covering, where do you think they got those traditions? It was all Jewish and Christian influence. Also look at what Eastern Catholic nuns wear - you may do a double take thinking it may be Islamic, but guess who was dressing like that first? As for the suffering thing, if you completely removed the theology and went with a purely secular psycholocial stance, suffering well is good for you and this is a truth as old as time. Jesus did not suffer on the Cross to spare us the discomfort of being too hot in a jacket sometimes. We are to take up our CROSS (sufferings) and follow Him. I don't know what brand of Protestantism you subscribe to but it sounds very theologically watered down.

[@avirani0203]

It is so great to know that women in the U.S. are veiling in church. My family is from Galicia, Spain and it is common in Spain to veil. The same is true for all of Latin America. My husband is from India and it is also common to veil. It was strange for me to see women without veils in the U.S.

[@biankapaloma]

I got married in the Catholic church 3 weeks ago, since then, I have been wearing a black veil. I am the only one in my parrish. It helps me to focus, not get distracted and show my Lord how much I love him and respect him.

[@TruePT]

Beautiful! Also congratulations 🍾

[@melodyvecera1195]

Congratulations on your recent nuptials! I totally agree. It changes everything with that simple act.

[@jeanb.5405]

I was the only one for years in my Parish - it isn't until the last few years that it is become more acceptable to women again.

[@FlamingTurkats]

I'd like to defend deacon wives! The wife of the deacon at the novus ordo I entered the church in was such a lovely Christ-loving woman! While she didn't veil herself, she loved my veiling! I'm sure there are many wives of other deacons who humbly embrace their husband's place in the church!

[@ACatholicWife]

Amber is such a beautiful young lady! She has a true gift ♥️

[@andreabeu8834]

I attend an Ordinariate parish where probably 95% of the women are veiled. We have a small sign in the back of the church saying, "we veil the sacred" with loaner veils for anyone who would like to borrow one. I read once that because the Church is the bride of Christ, and the Church is made up of its members, the women become the visible representation of this relationship as bride and historically veiled themselves in church. I think this is a beautiful tradition that is definitely making a comeback. With regards to color, I don't really see the women at my parish sticking to black and white veils according to marital status. Many times they coordinate with the clothing or the liturgical colors.

[@BlueBelle277]

Before I got married when I first started veiling no one in my parish did I didn’t care about people thought so I would wear one but my family did my parents made me sit away from them during mass because they were embarrassed of me it’s nice to see it’s becoming more mainstream now that I’m married and in TLM I love veiling and I’m happy I’m not alone in doing so 🥰

[@cm5819]

I am heartbroken to hear of this as a deacon’s wife. I am proud to wear my vail and many people have come up asking information about why I wear my vail. I explain to them the history and beauty of wearing a vail. Be more like Mary less like the world wants you to look like. I love my vail 🙏

[@dianea3600]

Veil not as important as the heart

[@kmln55]

The color of the veil is not restricted by married or unmarried. Once a woman decides to veil I believe it should be a commitment, if you decide it's the right thing to do then make sure you have a veil at all times. I keep one in the glove compartment of the car and 2 in my purse at all times.

[@SperoinDeo]

Traditionally (lower case t), married wear dark, singles wear white veils. Helps avoid confusion and helps the single men. Very practical.

[@kmln55]

@@SperoinDeo Can't agree with you but you are entitled to your opinion.

[@SperoinDeo]

@@kmln55 Sure. But it’s not my opinion. It’s a tradition. You can disagree with that. Very fashionable these days.

[@kmln55]

@@SperoinDeo I have never seen that written out anywhere.

[@infernalt-rex]

@@SperoinDeo That is only a tradition in Italy, Spain, and Hispanic cultures and not for literally everyone else.

[@Peaceful_Gojira]

Wow, just like the start of this conversation: never heard of Amber Rose. My gracious, God bless you, Amber, what a gem! I want her to know that her presence and viewpoints give men like me great confidence and hope in the world we live in; that there are in fact women out there who want to please God lovingly, submissively, and righteously (to the best of our will). They don't embody selfishness, but rather employ selflessness. They do not ratify judgement onto others, but rather imitate themselves like Christ Jesus. They do not seek praise, but rather give it to *_Him_* . All the more, they do not want to be worshipped, they want to worship *_Him_* Women I've met in my life haven't aimed to do that at all, nor carry themselves in such a way. They're absorbed in looks, desires, and try so hard to please others...that's just such a miserable way to live! It's one of the lesser important reasons, but a reason all the same, that I am discerning Roman Catholicism. The primary reason (of course) is to grow closer to God, and understand and surrender to His will AMAP (As Much As Possible). And in it, grow in faith among truer believers. I know not all Catholics are saints, but nor are all Protestants either. So, anyways: Amen to you both, God bless Amber and Matt, seriously: this was very uplifting to hear and see! :) Also, that Deacon's wife should be ashamed and repent immediately. God have mercy on her, as well. Cheers, be safe everyone. And all the more, God bless you all, and keep you.

[@marisagonzalez1543]

I started wearing veil this year, but I still don't get the part of "taking the attention away from you"... many people have told me "you get a lot of attention with your veil... why do you wear it" 😢

[@jeannerleclaire]

Lots of single women wear black and white veils, it really has nothing to do with marital status. It is reverence and obedience also humility. At least that is what I have been taught.

[@LisaKnobel]

I had considered veiling for a while as many women in our church veiled. But, I wasn't sure when to make it happen. So, last year, I did the Louis de Montfort consecration to to Jesus through Mary. I mentioned I was doing the consecration to the priest and he asked if I was going to bring flowers to Our Lady that day. As soon as he said it, I knew that my gift to Mary would be to start wearing a veil. My heritage is Eastern European. So, I wear colored scarves or as we call them babushkas. I recently got a bunch of babushkas that were worn by my Grandmothers and great grandmothers. They are nothing fancy, just everyday women's scarves that with traditional floral patterns. I love wearing them and having that connection to my heritage. I have had to buy a couple of simple lace veils for the summer as the babushkas get hot. I recommend the Etsy shop RuttUSA for some of the nicest and most affordable ones you will find.

[@trinabrousseau5568]

When I was a child in Catholic school all women covered their heads in Church. One time when I forgot my mantilla for school Mass the nun bobby pinned a Kleenex to my head. I never forgot that. And when I reverted I remembered that and have always veiled.

[@larrymelman]

The bobby pins and the kleenex is exactly why the rule about head covering was done away with. They finally saw it for the neurotic tic that it was.

[@patrickvalentino600]

When I was in college I knew a girl who never cut her hair from childhood. When I asked why, she cited the St Paul excerpt that women should be veiled....I wasn't as plugged in a the time, but if it happened today my burning question would be, 'so if Paul says to veil, then why not...ya know....veil?'

[@BB-kt5eb]

It’s one thing if we are in a situation where all we can wear to Mass is casual clothing, but under ordinary circumstances, we should at least dress a little better than that.

[@mmthomas3729]

I've never heard of unmarried women wearing a white veil and married wearing black. My mother wore a white veil in the spring and Summer and a black veil throughout the Winter through Lent.

[@daughterofchrist1775]

Those things that are veiled are Holy