Confronting my Productivity Guru - Tiago Forte

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People often call me a productivity guru, but in this episode I sit down with one of the world's foremost experts on productivity @TiagoForte. Tiago's taught me and thousands of people how they can revolutionise their lives and businesses with his course ‘building a second brain’ and during this conversation he shares that wisdom. We talk about how he fell into the world of productivity and how actually building a business is at the core of what is means to make a positive impact on the world, as well as misconceptions about productivity and his brand new book 'Building A Second Brain: A Proven Method to Organize Your Digital Life and Unlock Your Creative Potential'.
00:00 Intro
01:44 How has having a child has impacted your productivity?
06:01 How did you become one of the world's foremost experts on productivity?
12:05 How to keep up with managing information flows
17:20 Is the world moving away from productivity?
23:24 What's the meaning of productivity for you?
34:11 Getting interested in business and making money
58:31 Your new book
01:03:14 What is a second brain and why does it help you organise your life?
01:14:31 The principles of building a second brain
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📚 RESOURCES MENTIONED
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Four Thousand Weeks: Time and How To Use It by Oliver Burkeman - geni.us/Gk3ck
In Praise of Idleness and Other Essays by Bertrand Russell - geni.us/19wW2
Happy Sexy Millionaire: Unexpected Truths about Fulfilment, Love and Success by Steven Bartlett - geni.us/BqH3
Rich Dad, Poor Dad by Robert T. Kiyosaki - geni.us/2WlU5f
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[@DeepDivewithAliAbdaal]

Hope you enjoyed the episode, head to shortform.com/deepdive to get 20% off the annual premium subscription 😀

[@danielvarga_p]

I just realised how good is the green backround here, pleasure to look to the video. Thank you for the really excellent production quality.

[@TiagoForte]

I had SUCH a great time chatting with you Ali. You're a class act and talented entrepreneur, and it was a pleasure diving into the nuts and bolts of productivity and notetaking with you. Let's do it again sometime!

[@HenriqueSantos-xd1eg]

Do you have Brazilian roots?

[@alexvidzup9076]

You're a class act yourself Tiago. Keep up the good work 😀

[@MyBibleLab]

I’d heard your name but have never seen an interview with you. I’m now obsessed. Book ordered.

[@VilsPils]

Tiago, you are such an inspiration, can wait to read your book!

[@consaletmusongela]

I've been following this guy ever since he launched his book! I'm a big fan biy if you couldn't tell! 🤣

[@EmmaMarch]

This is by far, BY FAR, the best productivity podcast I have ever watched. The ideas are on another level, seriously... Thank you very much to both of you !

[@aagy]

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[@adiloravingal7638]

Ali is like a child in front of his favorite teacher of his life.😇

[@LearnWithMePODCAST]

43:15 this is like my favorite part there's some work you do that can pay you for years to come and the book and course are amazing examples 👍

[@acpenn1728]

I refreshed this channel 10 times today waiting for this video. It did not disappoint ❤️ Well done, Ali! Keep doing what you’re doing

[@usmonxon_mavlonov]

If you want to have a massive income in someone’s life, (help them) increase their income.

[@alexeolsen]

Loved this podcast episode with Tiago! Since being introduced to Tiago Forte I’ve built my own second brain and seen an immense improvement in my note taking output and journaling! Thanks again, Ali. You’re a rockstar! 🌟

[@bgpolitan]

This conversation is GOLD... Thank you so much for making it accesible for everyone

[@Gilly103221]

What a treat. Two intelligent men discussing important matters. I loved it. An enriching experience. Thank you for taking the time to share your conversation.

[@tracyjusay-flores7666]

I’ve been waiting for this episode for the longest time. FINALLY.

[@carlav8357]

Brilliant book! Being someone with learning disabilities this book is helping me organize my digital life! I am reading this book for a second time!

[@sneeds2108]

Is Ali's audio really quiet? Tiago seemed the perfect volume

[@dmontenegro]

Yeah dude, it's like his mic is off lol

[@Don_321]

really makes it hard to listen to. you'd think they'd be able to do a basic sound check prior to recording

[@CreativeTies_]

Agree. Looks like the sure isn't recorded but the lav instead - this could've been fixed in the edit

[@SofiaPotdevin]

This is the first episode I watch from Dipe Dive and what an episode!! Loved it! Thank you Ali and Tiago for making it possible. I especially the concept of making those 3-5 minutes chunks of time count. Those can make a huge difference on our life. THANK YOU! 💓

[@olgaw.5968]

One of the best podcast I have ever listened to. Thank you so much.

[@NerriPangoCrochet]

At first I though Elon Musk is talking but there is so much more value in this talk.. I am so glad I came across this podcast! 🙏🙏🙏 going to find and buy the book straight away!! 👌🤗🙏

[@krimsonsun10]

I guess i was not the only one that thought so 😲😲

[@sohanjoshi1076]

this was an extremely insightful episode Ali and Tiago, thank you so much both of y'all!

[@franckfrancois4378]

Congratulations on another fantastic interview and all things you do. You've been an inspiration!! Continue your journey

[@RivimieraNakana]

The Bertrand Russell quote isn’t the definition of a job, it’s the definition of work specifically - because it’s a double entendre on the physics meaning of work (ie work = force x displacement)!

[@RichPlusHappy]

it seems somebody created Elon Musk character on Skyrim and added some freckles and cold blue eyes for fun

[@himothychalomet]

Exactly! He even does those weird moans that elon does as hes listening to someone else talk. I can't unhear it now.

[@living_water-]

Hahaha...plus a bit of Maria Sharapova!

[@hmi1750]

i like the discussion about parenting.. as father of 3 who also travels a lot for work, the whole productivity and availability concept changes significantly.

[@danielvarga_p]

I just realised how good is the green backround here, pleasure to look to the video. Thank you for the really excellent production quality.

[@nollindwhachell]

The problem that people have had with the word "productivity" is the meaning behind it. I’m guilty of thinking it was a bad word as well because of the different meaning and power it’s been given by big business (who often just work for the sake of making more money, rather than how it can empower more people). What Tiago is effectively doing is humanizing the meaning of productivity and thus empowering it for everyone, thus letting us see it in a much broader way. Other people I’ve seen are doing the same thing in that they are redefining the meaning of other words (ie leadership, etc) and thus humanizing work (and business) again, making it something meaningful, purposeful, and accessible to all in profound ways. But ya, so many of the problems experienced in our lives today are often caused by us misinterpreting the meaning of something, usually within the first half of our lives. Yet this is often how we can notice people who I like to say have "levelled up" in life and are working on things in a new way. It’s because they’ve often reframed the meaning of something, giving it a deeper, broader perspective, thus setting us free from the limited mindset of the older meaning. BTW Tiago’s insight near the end on how a second brain helps to deal with the basic mundane stuff of your life first is really poignant. I’ve never thought of it that way before. It actually correlates quite closely with the metaphor used by Scott Barry Kaufman in his Transcend book. In effect, it helps you get out of the "water" of the mundane stuff you’re often "drowning" in on a daily level and stand on something tangible that becomes a "vessel" to help you "navigate" your life and to express who you truly and intentionally want to be.

[@yourmillennialtherapist]

I loved this thank you so much for the insights, as a beginner business owner and entrepreneur in an Online therapy Practice. I resonated with a lot with this video regarding productivity and creating a sense of urgency. Thank you Ali & Tiago.

[@marklazaroindia]

Put some foam isolation between your microphone and your table. A pop filter would be a good addition as well. Listen to this podcast on good speakers or headphones, you’ll hear the low end bumps from your hands touching the table.

[@sergeballiet6645]

And also the sounds made by Tiago :D

[@lukestevens8402]

Awesome episode! Just like the hammers in the discussion, money is a tool. It can be used for good or it can be used for evil. With it you can take care of people and with it you can exploit people. Money is neutral it’s what you do with it to make the world a better place or terret down. Money is not the root of all evil but the love of money is.

[@achrafterrab9179]

Great time, great information ! 🌱

[@bhumika5542]

Season 3 is 🔥

[@brainelite]

Amazing video! Absolutely love it! Thank you so much for the information and ideas! 👍

[@arkhi.anastasia]

It’s an extremely valuable episode! I’ve got some useful tips, especially about doing everything just in time

[@aveerajsharma]

Ohh man! Freaking love this podcast, so much to learn!

[@VeroDeDream]

How did I miss this channel !!! 😅 now I have to binge watch to catch up 😮

[@razabadass]

Thank you Tiago, Ali, Angus, Elizabeth and other people not shown in front of the camera here! Raza :)

[@HUMLOCKA]

At about 45:50 you talk about the self-constraints that we often put on ourselves that prevent us from going after our goals. This is very true, and I think that everybody who has felt this way should read about the story of Epictetus, a stoic philosopher who was first born as a slave, but was the most free of them all, in which I like to call it in my video the 'free mind'. If Epictetus, a slave, can be free, why can't most of us? Epictetus had his work Discourses which would be good if you're interested in Epictetus and his thought process.

[@viralex6494]

this was a very wonderful conversation keep it up ali

[@akosuakoranteng3327]

So many good insights here, especially around business and money being a vehicle for social change, thanks for sharing!

[@underquartz9481]

In different points in your life there are actually more needle moving things than others are. (Better things to optimize) 31:20 (32:15) - 33:50 (33:50 - 34:10)

[@dimplegeorge8801]

Tiago is so wise😅 smile is unique😊

[@iamcherrylegendary6875]

I love this conversation

[@aveerajsharma]

Loved this video!❤

[@atulacleaver]

I'm 15 and I think rn I have a really clear definition of my money. I provide value and for which I earn money and I have earned over $5K with that theory in my mind. Great talk, amazing book

[@DrBrunoRecipes]

Brilliant 👍🏻 Greetings from Scotland 🌻 Have a wonderful day everyone ❤️

[@Imtiazkhan-ez2lx]

Wow it was really interesting. I am gonna watch every podcast of yours. You are the best bro.

[@AlexanderRichterTD]

Two of my favorite Gurus coming together. 😍 It would help to boost your audio Ali and remove most of the "yeah", "yes" and "hmm"s from the guest. It's hard to focus on what you're saying.

[@CPTAwesomeGT31]

Thank you for this great video! Just one question, do you feel that you spend more time stressing about capturing new data into notion than trying to just recall from your real brain?

[@pavankumar-sv5ry]

Idk how much attention does this conversation will get....but it is really really useful and productive for everyone who wants to lead a productive life....they literally went deeper ...great conversation 🤍

[@Ematolah]

hey just a point this video is like a pod cast so please make it so that you are closer to the microphone so that the volume of your voice wont change during the podcast thank you for your great content

[@bkseitz]

Toyota's expert Shingo Shingo who created the production management system (JIT) actually got the idea from US Supermarkets using pull for the shelf stock

[@ccnewett]

Is the transcript of this podcast episode available? I couldn't find it on Deep Dive. Such an amazing episode!

[@user-pv1ng2od2n]

Hey Team, what's the song that's playing in the background during the sneak peek at the beginning of the video? Thanks

[@bryanprince8184]

I really enjoy your channel Ali and Tiago is amazing. Unfortunately I had to cut this video off at 24 minutes because you use the word “like” over and over to a point where it’s sloppy and distracting. I will absolutely continue to watch your channel but please slow your thoughts down and stop using meaningless mid-sentence filler-words that take away from your valuable message.

[@ChristoferStiff]

Great Channel

[@jaredkaufman]

Awesome podcast! Getting some booming mic feedback though around the 30 minute mark! Not sure if anyone else is hearing that

[@treytrey6011]

Ali, is your mic on? Sounds like your voice is being picked up through his mic. Great content, thank you.

[@AL-zl9ew]

What do you think about BASB vs. Bullet Journal? As you used both of them, what are your insights about it and particular results by using both?

[@blakeleymitchell422]

Awesome

[@h_x_h]

What I wish I would hear is: productivity /= monetization. Minimizing waste and being more intentional is a great thing in work and personal lives. But the for profit mindset of maximizing profits above all else is what has turned “productivity” into a negative concept. Just a thought.

[@jeremyl9515]

Interesting!

[@GmanGavin1]

36:30 yes, it is definitely hanging back in our minds. I'm finding that a lot of the anti productivity stuff is a cynical productivity shaming. They seem more like you should be shameful of doing or taking action especially if it is economic.

[@FALIS07]

Hi Ali, I really enjoy your content. Productivity is not wasting your time. There’ are many times Allah talks about not wasting your time. Allah even swears on “time”. This shows you how valuable “time” is to human beings. Keep up the good work! I’m a loyal subscriber!

[@30bananaguy]

Looking at the blue zones and seeing the healthiest people on the planet, they were not wealthy. So you don't need to have lots of money to be healthy. But sadly in our first-world country, we see that we need to work all the time because it is costly to just cover basic necessity. I agree with Tiago that in first-world countries, you need to have money to be healthy, it's the sad reality.

[@jurajmicka]

Great conversation despite the technical difficulties! Note for the team: I found the wide camera's hunting focus and Ali's different audio a bit distracting.

[@bogxd]

I really want you to pick up that sharpie.

[@ANieves3873]

What is the one thing. Keller Williams book. The One Thing.

[@jeremiahmaryland]

Algorithm gods do your thing

[@carriebartkowiak]

Please, please, PLEASE disconnect the microphones from the table. Every little tap you make on the table with your hand, with your knee, the arm of the chair bumping into the edge of the table, etc REVERBERATES through the table, up through the mic stands, into the mics and then into our ears like GOD BEATING ON THE SKY.

[@dirtrockground4543]

Ali, do you need any help with long form podcast audio balancing? I can help

[@brunomn2]

What a great interview! Congratulations Ali!

[@cherrycoke3254]

I hope Tiago credits David Allen for his system, since it’s an obvious variation of GTD.

[@marekkrzysztofiak2583]

Brilliant episode. Btw I hope you realized the need of making sound more normalized...🎉

[@sureshramalingam362]

First like brother ..my

[@juveriyahayath3046]

With kids its difficult to manage with productive works....so i suggest you Ali to do an episode on productivity training for working moms.....

[@sriramvaddadi9809]

I wanna read your book

[@Doomsday_Life]

Consulting services

[@rose_clips]

Money is not the root of evil. It’s the love for money is the evil.

[@DirectorJoshy]

Hi Ali, just wanted to mention your audio is quieter/ seems more distant than Tiago's in this video. Just wanted to let you know so the issue can be corrected for future episodes. Otherwise, thanks for the content!

[@yourmillennialtherapist]

YES RICH DAD POOR DAD CHANGED MY LIFE!!

[@hassanomer22]

20:30 32:20 30:07

[@MaweeEnglish]

You know, I feel like..I want to meet with my lil child every single day

[@divyanshsh]

nice

[@StartItNow.]

Legit thought that was Elon musk , was thinking , your taking the mic

[@AparnaGurudiwan]

👌

[@ankitakumari2165]

Finally...🙏

[@douglasgrays9966]

Wow you were in Eastern Ukraine!

[@HenriqueSantos-xd1eg]

He has a Brazilian name

[@nomadcurate]

Shocked that an organized guru forgot to turn on his mic. Great content but might want to do a sound check first.

[@kakauefebe]

47:35 who knows which book Ali is talking about?

[@Squintillions]

Interesting idea and good info from the author. Love the content on this channel but note for Ali - please think of how you can be more succinct in your conversation. You say “like”, “kind of”, “sort of” and “thing” a lot. You could up your quality as an interviewer if you were more precise.

[@user-gb6mw9nr5j]

I also have a Xmas book😊

[@martinso.a.777]

Much love from Russia!

[@dsaasd9850]

Same here! Hey :)

[@MrStewmaestro]

So I am here waiting to hear the truth about how he started Tesla....nothing was mentioned. What's up with that?

[@JohnSmith-zs1bf]

The creator-prenour course thing pops a 404 when I tried to sign up

[@AnnaM-uq6dh]

Greetings from Ukraine 🇺🇦

[@hassanomer22]

01:01:40

[@CreativeTies_]

A fan of hammers you say? Adam Savage has entered the chat

[@k4piii]

24:28 For the lazy boy who wanted to see the full video. It's intentional use of your time

[@hassanomer22]

7:12

[@d42]

24:10 l

[@sanyofilin3622]

37:45

[@on9francisyu]

He is hard to get. He doesn’t seem to give out a lot of interview.