Confused Man Misunderstands Currency

[@Jdjhxhshjwi]

Absolutely brilliant! The voice of sanity! I hope he watches it and reads the comments. Thank you!!! X

[@RaynardWilson0]

Vobes has never once replied to any of my videos! I am certain he doesn't watch.

[@organickevinlondon]

@@RaynardWilson0 HE certainly WILL have to watch yer vidoes, "as I'm right on his case too"

[@rylanasher4756]

22:17 What a coward. He can't even stand by his own bullsh*t. Utterly dispicable.

[@BlackburnBigdragon]

My god. I just pretty much made this same comment. Haha!

[@RaynardWilson0]

Zero integrity

[@Jon-bx1ij]

The more you break it down the more it makes you realise what a piece of work rich is.

[@RaynardWilson0]

Yes, an utter shit.

[@SirRogerHerwell]

He's very far from being a mere harmless eccentric. He's a risk to his own, often financially and/or mentally vulnerable, viewer base either by him filling their heads with drivel which could cause them loss if acted upon or by providing a platform for the various scammers he "interviews" to fleece them. A total scumbag.

[@organickevinlondon]

@@RaynardWilson0 have you watched his "the system is broken" video, as Vobes stoops as low as it can possibly get in this one, making out that a convicted r*pist, his mate Sean Parker was "innocent??????" JEEZE that is as creepy as it could EVER get, Vobes even invited Sean Parker to his home for a video interview too.

[@Steve-sr6zw]

He's always begging for donations. Does he accept promissory notes?

[@TheWoodTink]

Dicky Vobes, as mental as he is shiny of head. The sort of wrong un' who corners you in a pub and starts blethering utter mince.

[@RaynardWilson0]

I think he would be too cowardly to do that. I expect he'd start a fairly normal conversation and then keep slipping in references to conspiracy truther stuff

[@heiyuall]

“All this money is worthless. You should give it all to me. I’ll throw it away for you. Honest.”

[@iatebambismom]

"Confused man in anachronistic clothing fails to understand currency".

[@mrpositronia]

He prefers to stiff small family run businesses. What a galant and noble chap.

[@MassiveCatLittleLegs]

Richard's take on money is similar to my own.... when I was 14. I would love to own a business and to have Richard walk in one day waving his little bits of paper with '50' written on them, then to yammer on about how I am "legally required to accept it", just so I could tell him to fck off.

[@hal263]

Many 14 year olds have jobs while they are still going through school, and have more sense and understanding of how the world actually works, than Richard.

[@RaynardWilson0]

@@hal263 Richard believed that he could get through life as some kind of medieval court jester - bartering laughter for cabbage

[@RaynardWilson0]

He wants to run a farm... like Jeremy Clarkson. Can you imagine how incompetently it will be run?

[@robertcroser7446]

​@@RaynardWilson0a direct quote from Richard Vobes " I'd kill myself if l had to work for a living" he and Julia who hasn't had a job ermmm ever will run a paying farm together because they reed books or help out on a community farm.......I wait with baited breath😂😂

[@cliveadams7629]

To be fair, if you're a numpty with very little, you get hammered for paying taxes, if you're a billionaire no one comes after you. And what was wrong with LSD? People can't seem to get enough of it now.

[@BlackburnBigdragon]

You know... Richard's argument here sounds very familiar. Almost as if he's been hanging out with "Peace Officer Davey", and his "Promissory Note Scheme".

[@CaptainWelshie]

A lot of this is down to people like Richard not wanting to pay tax.

[@RaynardWilson0]

Or gas bills

[@CaptainWelshie]

@@RaynardWilson0 Or anything tbh.

[@robertely686]

No, it's down to people being fed up with continually being ripped off by corporations, employers, governments, utility companies, insurance companies etc etc. Paying more for less services. I don't recall many working class and low paid people being mentioned in the Panama papers - that'll be the people who actually don't want to pay tax and get all the handouts

[@CaptainWelshie]

@@robertely686Right this is going to be long, bear with me. News flash, no one likes paying taxes, including income, gas, electricity, council, car, bike etc. I hate inflation and how everything has gone up over the 16 to 20 months. The sad thing is, that people like Richard weaponised it to the point of people not paying and getting into trouble with companies and authorities.

[@RaynardWilson0]

Yes, this is the problem. The rest of us are sucking up the high cost of living - Vobes and friends pretend it doesn't apply to them.

[@SirRogerHerwell]

I've been dropping notices about this channel's Vobestember special all over the comments sections of Vobes videos so hopefully some of the other Team Sane members will be over here for this and later videos.

[@Miketeepee]

Yes I'd seen that. I think we can expect a backlash from the morons. How exciting 😅

[@RaynardWilson0]

Was that you commenting on Banaman's videos as well?

[@Jon-bx1ij]

What Im finding funny at the moment is apparently we are payed trolls. Obviously like alot of things said on Richards Channel there's no evidence to back it up.

[@RaynardWilson0]

Actually, I'm independently wealthy enough as a result of a life working for mainstream finance to not need to be paid to troll. I do it for free.

[@Britishchapp]

Count me into Team Sane 👍🏻👌🏻

[@MrJonnyharry]

Why’s he talking about old money? Bank of England now have contained the words “Promise to pay” since they first started printing them in the 1700s.

[@Vicky-ev7hs]

Let me type a typical vobon response>>>>🙏🏻🙏🏻I needed to hear this today. I love you Richard. Rich for PM! Yes, they're fkn deranged! Keep em coming and strip the bark right off the lying, grifting baldy pos act.

[@SirRogerHerwell]

Yes, the Vobes for PM b0llox. We could have his fictional town of "Biggleswick" on a national scale. The fictional town where the schools are all closed because the teachers left, old people die alone in their homes and the streets are full of of bin bags burst open by foxes because there's no money for the council to pay for local services due to the local taxes being entirely voluntary.

[@RaynardWilson0]

Biggleswick most closely resembles some of the more deprived parts of Somalia... or possibly Sunderland.

[@expresidentfortune]

can't wait for you to demolish his Chemtrails special! 😆

[@Jon-bx1ij]

Lol oh yeah the stupid chemtrails nonsense. Thing is his disciples believe they exist but don't think about how realistically they could get them stopped. Clearly the vineger doesn't work.

[@RaynardWilson0]

I did something about Colin Wyatt who spoke about chemtrails, but I mainly focused on the vinegar side of his story because it's funnier.

[@expresidentfortune]

@@RaynardWilson0 what amazes me is the sheer coordination effort of airport ground staff who get the right mixture of heavy metals in the right quantities in the fuels to the correct flight paths so that the chemtrails can activate together like araldite 🤣

[@RaynardWilson0]

Do you think Easyjet might be tempted to save money by carrying less chemtrail fluid and more paying passengers?

[@expresidentfortune]

@@RaynardWilson0 not if they want to help with the deep state's mind-control game lol

[@BlackburnBigdragon]

The thing that Richard is ignoring is that a country's money is backed up by that country's assets in very complicated ways. Richard's personally promissory notes would be near worthless because.. seriously. What assets does he have that backs his promissory notes up? What's his credit history? What goods and services does he have that would make his promissory notes have value? I'm willing to bet, near nothing. The difference between the money that we get from our governments and Richard's promissory notes is that our countries have lots of assets, goods, and services, with which to back up the value of it. Richard does not. I'm willing to bet if we somehow dropped back to the barter system, Richard would be near poverty level. His promissory notes would still be worthless.

[@RaynardWilson0]

He'd barter his robot dance for a bowl of gruel

[@metalicminer6231]

UK Bank notes aren't backed by anything I'm afraid, and even the copper has been removed from our coinage. You couldn't have a functional society if time and weights constantly changed their value. The financial system is the real fraud.

[@neilcook4686]

Personally, I'd say that he's a total and utter banker...

[@arcanics1971]

If he agrees I'll happily send Richard 80,000 Whelks (my own currency-cum-promissory note) from the Bank of Arcanics for each of his worthless £5 notes. By the way, the "there is no debt if they refuse" is an argument that seems very popular in the Sov Cit community. Although they also say if you send a 2 shilling piece from 1946 it will somehow pay any debt because it's got silver in it and all kinds of stoopit twonkery.

[@RaynardWilson0]

Are you proposing an entirely shellfish-based currency system. Intriguing.

[@daver9505]

I think Richard might go for that. After all, cowrie shells were used as currency in the good old days.

[@RaynardWilson0]

Older is better, according to Le Vobes

[@wibblywobblyidiotvision]

Five pounds of what? Five pounds of tripe.

[@RaynardWilson0]

Five pounds of ... money! Strictly speaking, the "I promise to pay the bearer on demand" thing doesn't mean anything. The Bank of England says that it is retained for historical reasons only but carries no legal force.

[@rylanasher4756]

That is more than the average conspiracy theorist's brain weighs.

[@scragar]

@RaynardWilson0 It does mean something still, they'll exchange it for other English currency with the value of £5. Seems a bit worthless, but it's why why replace damaged notes, as well as providing banks with change(which is important because the banks supply stores with change, so if the banks run out the economy suffers, so the BoE provides that service to banks so they can provide it to businesses). It's a small thing, but it's still important.

[@MaxHallam-te2np]

​@RaynardWilson0 'five pounds of.....money' - No, sorry, you really need to understand the definition and concept of money. What we have is a FIAT currency system which is destined to go to its intrinsic value, in other words ZERO.

[@wibblywobblyidiotvision]

@@MaxHallam-te2np I'm almost certain that your knowledge of the "definition and concept of money" came from earning a PhD in economic theory, and not from "learning" stuff from youtube. After all, only a serious economic theorist would capitalise the word "fiat" as though it was an acronym.

[@theblackswan2373]

I doubt he would be pleased if treated to his own behavior.

[@RaynardWilson0]

Yes, I mean if someone donated to his fundraiser in Raynard Bucks... would he value that as much as cash?

[@theblackswan2373]

@@RaynardWilson0 exactly!

[@timtechdude4339]

@@RaynardWilson0 What is the current exchange rate from 'Raynard Bucks'? Does it use sheep units?

[@RaynardWilson0]

Raynard Bucks are backed by raisins. One hundred rasins to the buck. It's not a fiat currency.

[@theblackswan2373]

@@RaynardWilson0 better than chickens I suppose. That would be fowl.

[@jimtigwell4265]

It's such a shame that he's gone down the conspiracy path, a few years ago as the Bald Explorer he made interesting history based videos, and films about unusual places around the country. He now just comes across as an uninformed lunatic!

[@Dantianblue]

He'd be good at walking round eccentric places deep in the Dorest countryside and talking to people who think they're a reincarnation of Nefertiti.

[@Jon-bx1ij]

I agree with that. Apparently those types of Videos didn't get many views so didn't pay well and that's why he changed .

[@RaynardWilson0]

Yes, this was purely about the money.

[@Gdwmartin]

A lot of people don't like taxes, but if we want the things they pay for, like roads & bridges, health care, schools, and even garbage collection we have to pay it. Sadly here in Canada even politicians make hay on a tax avoidance platform. Promising to cut tax if elected. To their fans I always ask the same question. What are you prepared to do without if they win?

[@RaynardWilson0]

I have barely even touched Vobes' theories on taxation. They are truly toxic in their madness.

[@rylanasher4756]

It always amazes me that people expect to enjoy the amenities of civilization, but don't expect to invest in them. Sad.

[@Miketeepee]

​@@rylanasher4756grim innit?

[@Wayne-wm6wq]

No most of the taxes go to the Vatican and guess who owns the Vatican the rothschilds

[@Wayne-wm6wq]

​@@RaynardWilson0well years ago I rang the tax office and asked them where does it say in law that you have to pay it half HR later he said he couldn't find anything I said thanks and hung up I haven't paid tax for ten years now

[@MichaelPiz]

Vobes takes a truth (paper money is backed by nothing but legal authority) and ignores that part that's inconvenient to his agenda. (Like a politician. He should run for office - that way, he'd be a _legal_ grifter.) He says, basically, that since a government's legal authority rests solely on its citizens trust (a better word here than "faith," to avoid confusion with religious faith, although far too many have what seems to be blind religious faith in their government), then paper money (Vobes's promissory notes) issued by anyone at all is just as valid. In the sense that both ultimately rely on trust, that's true. But governments are more stable and, for the most part, demonstrably more trustworthy than some random person, especially a scam artist like Vobes. That's more and more rapidly becoming less and less the case, as governments debase their own currency with utterly reckless abandon, but it still holds enough in stable countries like the U.S. and U.K. to make paper currency (and its surrogates, such as debit cards) acceptable in trade. None of that makes currency untethered to precious metals a good thing - it _must_ eventually fail. See post-WWI Germany and modern-day Venezuela for just two examples of that failure. But Vobes wants something for nothing even more blatantly than inflationist politicians, who are pretty damn blatant about it.

[@EeezyNoow]

In God's Own County - Yorkshire, (naturally), we used to have a large silver coin that was called "Half a dollar". This was more formally (and formerly) referred to as "Half a Crown". Or 2 and a half bob. Or 2 and a kick. Or 2 and 6. Which translated is 2 shillings and 6 pence. And yes there were 12 old pence in a shilling and 20 shillings or 240 pence to the pound (that's pound money not pound weight of course). All this was pre-decimalisation (which was basically just an excuse to put up prices). The half dollar coin no longer exists but if it did it would be worth 12.5 new pence or 30 old pence. Hope this clears it up.

[@RaynardWilson0]

Yes, it all seems perfectly sensible. Are you saying that there was a coin exclusive to Yorkshire?

[@EeezyNoow]

@@RaynardWilson0 Of course. It was known as the Yorkshire Tanner. It could only be spent within the Rhubarb Triangle (Wakefield, Morley and Rothwell) . It would buy you quite a good few Pontefract Cakes freshly made using the liquorice mined from the deep seams just outside Cleckhuddersfax. Everyone knows that.

[@RaynardWilson0]

Oh speak to me of this magical place. This historical learning astounds me.

[@EeezyNoow]

@@RaynardWilson0 Ee ‘ecky thump, yer right there kidda. It were reet bramah I tell yer. By gum, put t’wood in t’hole. I’ll go t’foot of our stairs an all. When I were a lad up on Ilkley Moor baht ’at, yer’d see all’ t Yorkshire folk trudging back from t’mills o’er Lancashire way. The blokes had to whip their pregnant wives to make sure t’nippers were born in Yorkshire else they’d never be allowed to play cricket at ‘eadingly.

[@RaynardWilson0]

Ah the authenticity of local knowledge. This must be a true story!

[@youreds91]

He's aggrieved that the notes nowadays say Bank Of England on them. Just like on the pre decimalisation notes.

[@RaynardWilson0]

I think he's also upset that the UK left the gold standard in 1937.

[@pjosephlthewonder5082]

Is Electroshock Therapy still legal in the UK? Just asking ... for a friend ... Peace

[@RaynardWilson0]

I may need it after too much exposure to Vobes

[@bobsmudger3979]

Electroshock Therapy?! For a fkn KZbin video? Christ on a bike I hope you never get near power you vile cretin.

[@RaynardWilson0]

In fairness, long-term exposure to Vobes might cause symptoms similar to schizophrenia.

[@torjohnsen110]

This is a wonderful satirical show! 👍😄

[@RaynardWilson0]

Is it a satire, or just one man's desperate cry for help?

[@CameronM47]

Well technically speaking we did get more money for our money back then. 240 pence as opposed to 100 new pence, I blame shrinkflation maybe Brexit too.

[@MartinJames389]

I don't need to search for £sd, I remember it well. I was 25 when the decimal system came in -at last! If runcible spoons cost 3-71/2d (three and sevenpence ha'penny) each, how many can I buy for £1-12-5d (one pound twelve and fivepence) and how much change will I have if I have bought as many as possible for that money? If antimacassars cost 1-4d each, how much will I have to pay for 94 of them? How the hell can you work that out in your head? We had to do those sort of sums at school and you could only really do it on paper, especially when it came to division. It was completely bonkers! I remember a Tony Hancock sketch where he went to a posh restaurant and when it came to the bill for his expensive meal, the waiter said "That'll be seventeen and nine, sir" (a very expensive meal in those days) "Ah yes", responds Hancock, ever pompously putting the world to rights, "now let me see ... seventeen and nine is twenty-six, twenty-six pence is two and two, two and two is four. Here's sixpence my good man, keep the change." (Something like that, I made up the numbers.) The system was comedy material!

[@Dantianblue]

😂 Vobes is Pythonesque, like the bloke in the post office trying to buy a fish licence for his pet halibut.

[@MartinJames389]

@@Dantianblue As it happens, I have some halibut licences available for sale to suitable aquatic pet lovers. I absolutely refuse to sell one to Richard Vobes, however, as anyone who accepts one of his promisory notes can be identified under a uv light. Oops, sorry, I got my conspiracy nonsense a bit mixed up there.

[@Dantianblue]

@@MartinJames389 It's certainly great comic material.

[@Miketeepee]

Well in Ray. Fabulous debunking of an absolute tosser. Imagine if he was your dad. His three children have to

[@RaynardWilson0]

I've always wanted to interview them. I wonder how close they are to him? I get the impression that there's some tension - and they probably aren't too keen on Julia.

[@Jon-bx1ij]

​@@RaynardWilson0well I get the impression he might be jealous of his eldest son as from what rich said his son has basically done better in life than him and is more intelligent, and he did admit his son thinks he's a conspiracy theorist.

[@Miketeepee]

​@@RaynardWilson0Completely agree, they've lost their father to a odd woman who hugs trees but also hates immigration.

[@Miketeepee]

​@@Jon-bx1ijexactly that Jon

[@RaynardWilson0]

I seriously hope my son does better in life than me! He's just begun an engineering degree at a good university, so all appears to be going according to plan!

[@londo776]

You are a better man than me. I can only last about two or three minutes listening to has Complete bollocks.

[@SirRogerHerwell]

I have to watch all his vids at 2 x speed so I get to see/hear all the bullshyt but only waste half the time doing so.

[@stevealdridge9720]

Why would anyone listen to vobes in the first place !

[@Jon-bx1ij]

I have no idea. But he should do us all a favour and do what Tim did (fair play now) and just stop what he's doing, especially as he's achieved nothing this year (or last year come to think of it)

[@Miketeepee]

Hey Steve

[@Steve-sr6zw]

Thousands do. It's worrying how many deluded idiots there are out there.

[@SirRogerHerwell]

To go onto the comments section and debunk the nonsense in the hope that at least some may not fall for it and, in a slightly less philanthropic manner, to laugh at and poke the loons with pointy sticks in much the same manner as a 17th century paying visitor to Bedlam Hospital may have done.

[@MarceldeJong]

To the conspiratorially minded folks opinions are just as valid a facts and that is a sad state of affairs

[@annoyingbstard9407]

No one nowadays will understand how “old money” worked as it involved adding, subtracting and multiplying in base twelve, base twenty and in the case of the Guinea, base twenty one as well as our more common (if arbitrary) base ten. The amazing thing is everyone could handle this just a few years ago. Now it’s all been made simple. For simple people.

[@RaynardWilson0]

As a financial software developer, I'm glad I don't have to deal with that. Next we should get rid of daylight savings time.

[@annoyingbstard9407]

@@RaynardWilson0 I’m waiting for the ten day week and ten hour day. Ridiculous what we have now.

[@storytimewithMrPeter]

Your channel actually publicises conspiracy theories to a broader audience. Keep up the good work.

[@SirRogerHerwell]

Do you want to try a less obvious and less pathetic attempt at reverse psychology? 🤣

[@storytimewithMrPeter]

@@SirRogerHerwell No, thank you. That will do nicely. 😀

[@RaynardWilson0]

Are you suggesting that someone might see my channel and start believing in conspiracy theories?

[@muskyoxes]

Here's a tip. First succeed in your scheme one time. Just once in your whole life. THEN tell other people how to do it. This goes for sovereign citizens too

[@RaynardWilson0]

That's what makes me angry: These schemes fail every time, and when they do, he blames the "corrupt courts" and not his own stupidity.

[@SirRogerHerwell]

@@RaynardWilson0 WElL tHat'S cleARlY BEcauSe The perSON iN CouRt sTEPpeD iNTO THeir maRitImE JUrISdIcTIoN ANd diDN't fiRST rebUt thE 12 PrEsumPTionS OF law sO As TO dEny juRISDiCTion OF ThOse wHo HAvE sWORN an oATh to the PrivAte BAR GUiLd!🤪

[@RaynardWilson0]

Yes, that. It's not them who got the law wrong - it's actually the judge and all those other lawyers. PS, the United States Supreme Court agrees!

[@boroswalker7923]

Where can I send my promissory notes so that I can listen to more of Good Ol' Rich's mad rantings? Since he is so certain promissory notes are legal tender even if written by yourself, then I assume he accepts them as such. In fact I think we should reach out to all of his viewers and tell them they should do the same. Practice what you preach Rich, practice what you preach...

[@Jon-bx1ij]

His viewers probably would do the same, after all they are 100% convinced that a bowl of vinegar makes the whole sky clear from chemtrails.

[@SirRogerHerwell]

Where? 9 Newland Road, Worthing, England, BN11 1JR

[@AlienBigCat23]

Better to get info from TV? 😄 🤣

[@BrokenBackMountains]

How old is he? I can just about remember old money because I started primary when decimalisation happened and old sixpence was still in circulation -two and a half pence. I never used old money when it was legal tender. He is getting confused between weight and sterling. The sad thing is the utter confidence of his rant. He is comfortable in his idiocy.

[@RaynardWilson0]

I think he's in his 60s, so about the same age as Mark Steele! He's definitely old enough to remember pre-decimal currency, and from what I can gather he lived in a comfortably off middle-class home, so no wonder that part of his life is one he remembers fondly.

[@SirRogerHerwell]

According to the filings at Companies House for his company incorporated last year (so much for living in the private by voluntarily registering himself with a government agency as a director of said company!) he was born in July 1963

[@RaynardWilson0]

@@SirRogerHerwell you did your own research!

[@BrokenBackMountains]

​@@SirRogerHerwellSo he is three years older than me. I would hazard a guess he wasn't as au fait with old money as he makes out, especially the higher denominations. The only coins I can remember using is tuppence and sixpence. The shillings are only a memory because they were still in circulation until the 90s. It is all part of the crafted personae with the waistcoats, cravat and tweeds. All fake.

[@SirRogerHerwell]

@@RaynardWilson0 And I have a slightly greater grip on what it is I am reading at Companies House than, say, Gary Waterbrain!

[@marycarter6134]

American dollars have the same statement on them. But nobody over here is saying they're worthless.

[@michaelbarbato8403]

Ake my blood boil as I know many peoples who have lawfully written off tens of thousands of pounds using contract law !!!!

[@RaynardWilson0]

Can you name one such person? You might get away with this kind of nonsense for a few months, but that's only because litigation is slow and courts are overwhelmed.

[@AlanEvans789]

Well once upon a time most retail business would be very happy to take your personal promissory notes. Of course the notes were usually pre-printed with a lot of the information necessary for their redemption, but it was perfectly legal to write one out totally by hand and have it honoured. I'm of course referring to a cheque.

[@SirRogerHerwell]

Particularly given that those cheques were guaranteed for payment by the bank up to the maximum stated on the cheque guarantee card and given that the debt was only discharged if the cheque were actually honoured which is somewhat different to what Vobes is suggesting which is that the delivery of the promissory note itself discharges the debt.

[@RaynardWilson0]

Cheques still work! But they were never a promissory note - they are an instruction to your bank.

[@elbee2324]

Says nonsense that is not true. At the end says it might not be true. Wonders why people ignore him, demonetise him or don't bother to follow his advice. Really... why is he even bothering with all this?

[@Jon-bx1ij]

I think he's just been so sucked in by the conspiracy nonsense he doesn't live in the real world anymore. Unless it is just an act (given he was an actor) and maybe away from this platform he's normal lol.

[@john_blues]

Wow, this exists in the US as well. I was exposed to it years ago. Same basic grift, just tweaks in the language. Blah, blah, Gold Standard, blah, blah, Federal Reserve, blah, blah, promissory note, somethingsomething contract. Raynard, I'm sure if you search you can probably find some people on KZbin/tiktok recording themselves doing this. Walking into a coffee shop, rambling on about i.o.u's and whatnot and leaving without paying as some poor confused cashier looks on.

[@RaynardWilson0]

He's a smug thief

[@SirRogerHerwell]

It doesn't just exist in the US, it comes from the US (and Canada). It's called North American pseudolaw for a reason. The US has exported many fine things to the rest of the world and this isn't one of them!

[@RaynardWilson0]

I wonder if I could retrain as a pseudolawyer?

[@john_blues]

@@RaynardWilson0 Perhaps. You do know someone that is very expert and also gives out 'legal' advice. I mean, it hasn't worked out well for the ones he's advising. But still.

[@RaynardWilson0]

@@john_blues he's afraid to show his face these days, but yeah just as very expert as the day he left school.

[@rhonwenschannel7489]

The monetary system may well becan illusion, trick or con. I've come across a number of videos along these lines over the past, well this century 🤔🤗🤗. What they never really say is a viable alternative in the society we live in.

[@dreadnoughtus2598]

My jackpot winning lottery ticket is made of paper. Now I know it's worthless, I'll throw it away.

[@RaynardWilson0]

Yes, don't get sucked into their schemes. Apparently it's just a promissory note!

[@JohnnyD_cm]

Does he not know about the silver strip inside that is threaded in and out? As far as I know, that's the valuable part. I once took an old £5 note, took the strip out and spent it. I think that is why the strip is now threaded 🤭

[@socialmediaavoider]

Right I’m jumping in here before I’ve seen the video but…. Dicky boy would have been 6 to 8 when decimalisation happened. So what the funk is he talking about

[@RaynardWilson0]

He has fond memories of that time - perhaps because his middle-class parents paid for eveything.

[@SirRogerHerwell]

Yes, according to the filings for his company at Companies House, he would have been a few months shy of 8 years old when decimalisation occurred in the UK. In fairness quite a few of the pre-decimal coins eg shilling and florin found new life being used as 5p and 10p respectively alongside the "new pence" coins and remained in use as such until being withdrawn in the early 90s

[@Jon-bx1ij]

Well Richard is back on top form after his week in Scotland. Today's Video was all about chemtrails (yawn) basically everyone needs to keep talking about them. The mans shot to bits.

[@RaynardWilson0]

I was thinking that my next vobes video ought to be about his views on smoking which are both insane and antisocial.

[@organickevinlondon]

Vobes flew to Scotland and back, as he NEVER filmed any of his BOGUS camper van road trip, on the most scenic stretch of UK motorways, the M6 through the Lake District, its about a 10 to 12 hour drive, from Worthing to Crieff, Vobes would have looked like shite after doing that drive, I like the way he posted some generic contrail pics, apparently near Oxford on the way home, he should have done a short video instead, stating, "here we are on the way home, from Scotland, theres or camper van too", ironically after flying back from Scotland, his first video was about "mythical chemtrails".

[@SirRogerHerwell]

Talking absolute 🦇💩🐴🐓 about kEmtRAylZ! 🤪 is a reliable little earner for him. Although he's been demonetised getting good viewing figures are what in turn gets him the lucrative MC gigs at Swivel-EyedNutterCom 2024 etc.

[@Yunners]

This is heading towards a patented Eddie Hilter 27 pound note. Edit: and now I just realized who Vobes reminds me of. (Sorry Adrian Edmonson)

[@CaptainWelshie]

Just don't ask about Welsh money XD.

[@Jon-bx1ij]

He talked way back last year about money, and how we should use alternative money so that we don't have to use the money with the king on and nothing came of it as usual. He obviously needs to be careful what he talks about now since his strikes/demonitizing, through his own doing.

[@RaynardWilson0]

He's done a bunch of money related shows in August

[@Miketeepee]

That's assuming he's actually been demonitised. I'm not so sure. Let's face it he's a lying little rodent

[@Jon-bx1ij]

​@@Miketeepeealso he's gone quiet lately about not being able to get online properly due to the outages in Worthing.

[@Rev_Arthur_Twunt]

Of course he's now urging his followers to buy him vouchers issued by Bleyer Bullion so he can redeem them for physical silver and presumably then exchange that for the fiat currency he needs to pay his council tax bill and buy diesel for his van. If of course they aren't just redeemed for cash directly. The only thing Vobes is right about is, yes, his viewers really are that stupid they will believe he has any desire or use for physical silver.

[@Jon-bx1ij]

​@@Rev_Arthur_Twuntand they believe other crap he says, I noticed he's not said anything about the comments section being off for that short vid he did about the promisery money. None of the usual it wasn't me that turned off the comments as we should all be entitled to our opinions.

[@StevenLeahyArt]

Nice to know the first place he will try to unload all his worthless Vobes Notes on are the local owned businesses he mentioned.

[@RaynardWilson0]

Yes, he just wants free stuff. There's no ethical principle in play here.

[@SirRogerHerwell]

Yep, there's a word for people like Vobes and it's one that you're not even allowed to use on a late night programme on Channel 4.

[@doranku]

What happened between us raynard? Are we not friends anymore? How can we fix this? Can you ever be our friend, raynard wilson, ever again

[@RaynardWilson0]

As far as I'm aware, our friendship is as strong as it ever was!

[@doranku]

​@@RaynardWilson0so maybe I'm needy and crave the confirmation that is ever present at the beginning of the other videos. ;)

[@pjcnet]

I still want to take my 5 Pound promissory note into the Bank of England to demand my gold and I'm not leaving until I get it lol. Oh no they can't go back on a promise with BS like saying we're not on the gold standard any more.

[@RaynardWilson0]

The news is only just filtering through to Vobes - 90 years late

[@matteotomaso7204]

Question; So if the UK stayed on the mineral note the Pound would be worth more today? The US staying on the Gold Standard, would the US Dollar be worth more today? Can you please check that?

[@RaynardWilson0]

The note might be worth more, but you would have fewer of them.

[@sh4dowchas3r]

has he awarded himself a 2 star red play button?

[@RaynardWilson0]

He has 200k subs, ao it's real!

[@SirRogerHerwell]

@@RaynardWilson0 But while his subscriber numbers appear to continue to grow, most pleasingly his actual viewing figures are falling off a cliff. One can only hope that although they don't bother to unsubscribe, his viewers are growing weary of the same daily bullshyt being warmed up in the microwave and served as leftovers for their until recently eager consumption.

[@RaynardWilson0]

I think YT does have a sort of shadowbanning process, for unsolvable problems like Vobes.

[@slim-yin]

Thanks

[@suferick778]

Richard wants to evade responsibility for everything - is he by any chance a Conservative MP?

[@RaynardWilson0]

Just a typical grifter. If anyone is dumb enough to give him money then that's on them.

[@hinkelstein4six]

That treatment is then similar to the song that never ends. 🙃

[@angusmclean4783]

On the "must accept cash" point, Richard is incorrect (Shock! Horror!), HOWEVER under contract law in the UK, the acceptable forms of settlement must be made clear to the purchaser by the vendor before entering into the contract to purchase. (In a food outlet, that would be accepting your order.) Think about all those fast food chains around the time "The recent World Health Event" that put clear signs on the doors saying "Card Only. No cash accepted." They didn't put those signs up just to be helpful to customers.

[@RaynardWilson0]

I think there's a lot of reasons to go cash only, chiefly to avoid the cost and complexity of handling cash. Hiring security guards to take it to the bank. Reducing theft, and the possibility that someone might want to rob your McDonald's.

[@roberthaggerty6619]

Please tell me he has his own business so I can pay with a hand written promissory note? Or when he gets his wage packet it has a bit of paper with I promise to pay on it!!!

[@RaynardWilson0]

Yes, and he's registered on Companies House. His real last name isn't Vobes though.

[@Starhawke_Gaming]

I wonder if anyone has tried to pay for his merch using baloney "promissory notes" from his viewers

[@robertely686]

0:20 The utilities like gas, water and electricity are shafting consumers - please don't pretend that people offering a critique of them believe that they 'should be free'. You are misrepresenting the situation - just like he does!

[@SirRogerHerwell]

The claim that energy is already paid for (and therefore should be free to the consumer) is exactly one of the claims that he willingly provided a platform for for someone to make - someone who will swap out your current meter for another one of their own for a mere £500 no less. Have you ever seen a Vobes video, or a comment on one of the comments sections of one, raising legitimate concerns about energy pricing or the debt/equity structures of utility companies? I may have missed such a comment but Vobes is quite happy to platform those claiming it's already been paid for and many of his viewers also claim that is the case.

[@RaynardWilson0]

Vobes had a guest on only last week who claims that gas is free. He literally says that in all of his shows. I think you are attempting to 'sanewash' Vobes' guests.

[@robertjackson8246]

Strange? Yes, strange. Vorbes is just.... ogg.

[@EpicOfChillgamesh]

Ana here I thought he was going to advocate for sound money or something remotely debatable... I should know by now that he's nowhere near that reasonable. 😂

[@Jon-bx1ij]

No def not reasonable, selfish more like.

[@RaynardWilson0]

He's like a five year old playing "heads I win, tails you loose"

[@Atlas6355_]

Ha! This is how Sovcits are form!

[@RaynardWilson0]

It's like the birth of a star cluster due to gravitational collapse

[@tussk.]

Is this some new crapto currency?

[@Wayne-wm6wq]

Carry on being a slave to the system I've done this for years and the corporations are grifting not us that stands up to them

[@RaynardWilson0]

Okay grandpa, time for bed.

[@Wayne-wm6wq]

@@RaynardWilson0 I meant was the last reply as your so fast asleep when the satanic stuff comes out you ain't Gona know what hit ya

[@oryctolaguspumpkin]

So much idiocy on display. Why is he waffling on about silver? He claims it has intrinsic value- it doesn't. We humans give it value because it's shiny, and it used to be hard to mine/dig up. Does he want to go back to bartering? Good luck with that!

[@RaynardWilson0]

You can't eat it, run a car on it or shag it and it won't get you high. That's what I call intrinsic value.

[@jaylors5825]

I promise to pay the reader of this comment one kiss.

[@MrPixiepantz]

Pucker up, buttercup!

[@Killyspudful]

*Greases up lips with best margarine*

[@RaynardWilson0]

He/she/they didn't specify where the kiss is to be delivered and by whom.

[@Killyspudful]

@@RaynardWilson0 Dammit. Here I am standing on this street corner, just outside the post office. With no trousers on.

[@SirRogerHerwell]

@@Killyspudful Careful. You might be mistaken for a Vobes fan if you're doing that! Are you also shouting at pigeons and passing traffic after spending the morning in Wetherspoons?

[@Wayne-wm6wq]

Theres no lying hey you i havent paid tax water tv for ten years gas electricity gas 2years c tax this year as no contracts

[@RaynardWilson0]

And how often do you get visits from debt collectors?

[@Wayne-wm6wq]

@@RaynardWilson0 only one bailiif from water he asked was I my name I said am I he said are you I said am I he said this is going to be a long day I said yes it is isn't it he left that was years ago

[@robertketch8508]

Really good vid m8, even if you did get a bit triggered 😂

[@Rachel_M_]

Why did you completely overlook "Invitation to treat" which is the how the contract negotiations are initiated? Under invitation to treat the customer is making the offer. The business can either accept, refuse or make a counter offer. There is no legal requirment for them to accept Vobes' offer. His logic falls at the first hurdle and this is a far simpler debunking in addition to the other parts of your video.

[@RaynardWilson0]

Companies will just refuse insane offers - such as paying a bill with a promissory note.

[@Rachel_M_]

@@RaynardWilson0 please stop needlessly overcomplicating and stop answering a question I didn't ask. I am simply making a satement of fact which strengthens your debunking on the basis of "First Principles" How is the transaction initiated? The customer makes an offer. The business can either accept, *REFUSE* or make a counter offer. (as stated above) I also state there's is *no legal obligation* on the business to accept the offer, contrary to what Vobes' implies. Well done. You repeated what I have already stated, but decided to present it in a way to suggest that you are correcting me. We agree. No correction needed. Have you heard the saying _"don't look a gift horse in the mouth"_ _"Ask an impertinent question and you are on your way to a pertinent answer"_ (Jacob Bronowski) I simply asked why you overlooked the first principle of Invitation To Treat. Perhaps ego is causing you not to see the woods for the trees? KISS - Keep It Simple Sweetheart ☺

[@RaynardWilson0]

I'm not clear on what point you are trying to make. In the video I said that companies aren't obliged to accept payment other than according to their terms of business. If somebody orders food and then declines to pay in the way the restaurant requires, they can ask to pay another way, but unless somebody agrees then they are still in violation of a contract. Why would I have mentioned an Invitation to Treat?

[@Rachel_M_]

@@RaynardWilson0 I'll rephrase my original question. Were there specific, and conscious, reasons you excluded the principle of invitation to treat from your rebuttal, or was it an unconscious accidental oversight?

[@Rachel_M_]

@@RaynardWilson0 I am asking about your thought process in making this video, what to include and exclude. That bears no relevance to the intricacies of the actual points you raise. Now can you see why Your first answer above regarding whether a business accepts an IOU or not is answering a question I didn't ask. There is no need to overthink my question when it simply asking about your reasons for excluding invitation to treat while writing your rebuttal. Was it intentional or unintentional?

[@GG-gt5ot]

You only need to wave a piece of plastic to buy shopping. Promises not even needed.

[@RaynardWilson0]

Well, the bank promised to debit the customer's account and then pay the retailer. That's a promise!

[@TheMrRatzz]

Isn't it about time you set up a Patron acount Raynard?

[@Britishchapp]

You could raise money for the ‘Richard Vobes’s Victim’s, Mini Bus Appeal”

[@Miketeepee]

​@@Britishchapphahahahahaha

[@RaynardWilson0]

I only accept Vobes Bucks

[@TheMrRatzz]

@@RaynardWilson0 then I'll get busy with my promissory notes!

[@CHRIBECK87]

He is just your average "critical thinker"

[@RaynardWilson0]

"I'm a skeptic"

[@Jon-bx1ij]

If he's a critical thinker he wouldn't think that telling the clouds to part would actually work (he admitted in an old vid that he's done that)

[@CHRIBECK87]

@@Jon-bx1ij I am not saying he is he just sounds like everyone you have ever met who claims to be a critical thinker. You know the folks who love a conspiracy theory.

[@Jon-bx1ij]

​@@CHRIBECK87oh I misunderstood you. Apologies for that.

[@CHRIBECK87]

@@Jon-bx1ij no problem dude I should have been clearer in the original post.