Connecting a C64 to WiFi | Nostalgia Nerd

[@LeftoverBeefcake]

Some of us hard core folks had 300 baud modems. Any slower and we might as well have just shouted the binary digits into a soup can tied to a string. Once in a while your mum picked up the phone in another room and knocked you offline. But we liked it! Now get off my lawn!

[@chrisb7528]

That's what I had on my 64 in US, didn't get a 1200 baud until my Amiga 1000.

[@CharlesFigueroaJr]

Get away from my azaleas!

[@patsfan4life]

Lol

[@JustWasted3HoursHere]

Ah, yes, the good 'ol 300 baud modem... I remember me and my friend would go to a local BBS and download a sample (ahem!) of a recently released game.... and wait for, literally, a couple of HOURS for it to download, only to discover that some error had occurred and the game was unplayable. Or, the game WOULD download correctly, but turned out to be a giant turd and not worth the electricity it took to download it. Later, my friend got a massive, blisteringly fast, mind-bogglingly powerful *1200 BAUD MODEM!* We were in heaven! Half the games were still crap, though... Still, I look back on those days fondly. The very clever color character graphics made the BBS experience quite an, um, experience!

[@skideric]

I Actually had the Bad Ass 2400 Baud!

[@RichardEricCollins]

My first experience of the internet and a BBS was on an Amiga A500 in the early 90's. The only had 10 lines in and would kick you off after 10 minutes to give others a chance. So you would connect, download the latest chat rooms and emails then log out. I also downloaded a few demo games! Really was ace. You would walk around in the day, going to work, thinking tonight I'll be connecting too and talking with the world for the cost of a local phone call. Sitting in the dark was required. :) And often staying up so late that you would see the milkman come in the morning, have breakfast, go to sleep for a couple of hours. On waking be would forced to return to the old world, the slow world, the world of the past, the world of work, all the time waiting to get back to the future, where I was living...

[@ClayMann]

That just seems amazing to me. Just the idea of getting online back then was expensive, exotic, required so much knowledge. As a young kid I just didn't have the funds and trying to convince parents you wanted to take control of the phone for computer use. Wasn't going to happen! lol I did sort of pretend browse the net through aminet CD's. They were loaded with all kinds of IRC chat logs and even full webpages you could open in a browser but instead of going to the online address it was viewing it locally through the CD. I think it was slower than 56k modems or around that speed. 4K/s was the speed I could access CD-ROM's over parallel port. but I had the same dark nights browsing through all this stuff and feeling it was somehow amazing because it had come from "the net!" It was all very misunderstood in the UK at that time. We didn't start catching onto the internet for several more years yet.

[@simonj48]

I didn't have any local BBS close to me, and the only ISPs back then were in London, so it was long distance calls even for dial up internet. At least I knew not to call international BBS ...

[@ninjamaster3453]

Only 10? Most small guys had 1 and the line was busy all the time. If they have money theyd habe multilines

[@bryndal36]

Mine was in the late 80s with my Laser 128 Apple //c clone and 1200 baud modem. I connected to a friends computer from mine and I was blown away. From there it was checking out the bbs scene and I was amazed at what could be done. Didn't get onto the internet until 1995 when I bought a 33.6k modem and connected it to my 486 SX 33. Such awesome memories back then.

[@grotekleum]

Aye, in them thar days you could go into PC World and people knew what you were talking about; say 'local bus' and they didn't direct you to the bus stop. It was an Alladins cave of technodream - motherboards, RAM et-al. People then knew how to work computers, set up the dip-switches, wire serial plugs and sort out the interupts - go away I'm busy :). Nowadays it's all plug-and-play; the knowledge is fading and soon no-one will know how to mend the mending machine - a nod there to E M Forster's 'The Machine Stops' 1909.

[@KnowHistory]

Only if the C64 had a quarter of the processing power of that wifi adaptor XD

[@techrev9999]

It would be boring and running a toaster somewhere.

[@billant2]

Ha-ha it's true though...

[@charleshines6155]

They were not a high speed computer but they did work very well for many games. Today computers have many times the processing power but it is just not the same.

[@ThePrufessa]

@@charleshines6155 thank you for this obvious ass response.

[@catfree]

Hey bro working atop of limitations brought some of the best and most creative works of software and hardware We don't get the same level of quality now that everyone has a supercomputer in their fanny :/

[@tiikoni8742]

5:49 I remember the feeling back in 90's. First time when my computer was putting out text on screen that was coming from another computer... Those are those rare moments when you know this is going to change the world.

[@KowboyUSA]

Back when the worldwide Internet community was truly a small world, so much valuable information was shared via telnet _bulletin boards_ and chats.

[@happykillerkeks]

John Ratko The good old Internet that required a bit of intellect to connect to

[@ytdlgandalf]

@@happykillerkeks join dn42 and rejoin the internet meant for nerds

[@scottishwildcat]

happykillerkeks Bulletin boards weren't technically part of the Internet at all.

[@floydjohnson7888]

This talk of old-school BBS/chat apparati gave me too much to think about: from "the digital divide (beta)" to "the 56k PSTN modem shootout".

[@neoasura]

If there was two or more computers hooked up to each other across distances..it was part of the internet. A lot of people seem to think the "internet" stops at a web browser. But there are a lot of different layers of the internet.

[@RichardT2112]

Love it! The wifi adapter has more processing power than the C64 :)

[@XaFFaX]

Just what I wanted to comment on :D. It is probably like 100x faster and you use it to provide connectivity to a decades old computer which processing power is outmatched by a watch. Mind blown!

[@jackkraken3888]

Its like attaching a chainsaw to an axe.

[@JesusisJesus]

I believe he said it was 80mhz so that's 40x faster than your Commodore 64. The analogy is more like Chucking a Tesla motor in your Model T.

[@andysim232]

Putting a v8 engine in a lawnmower. 500hp but no traction 😉😉😉

[@1blisslife]

Jesus The model T could probably cope with a tesla motor. Iron age tech meets the EV tech age. Someone might just do that someday. That'd be an awesome combo in my book. Then I can say to my other half... Madame your Electric horsless carriage is ready, as I open the door like a gentleman with a proper bow to match.

[@reggiep75]

Damn, I so loved the late 90's/early 00's era of the internet where it really was like a massive leap ahead in technology and there were thousands of sites to get on your 56k modem and that lovely dial up tone was like a comfort blanket when you sat in front of your CRT at 85hz or even 100hz if you were lucky. It was like bulletin boards the way you'd dreamed they'd be one day!

[@olschoolgamer1869]

Awesome video! I remember connecting to local "Color Commie Bulletin Boards" in the states. To call from my city to a connecting county was long distance even though you could drive their in less than 10 minutes. So we would call the local university and connect to their main frame and then enter the number for the board so you didn't have to pay the long distance charges. It certainly was a much more adventuresome time.

[@lupinedreamexpress]

Fascinated by the fact BBS are still up serving up warez.

[@skideric]

Dang,gotta get me one of those! Have great memories of late nights on C64 & Quantum Link on my Aprotek modem! Later a Commodore Modem. Still got lots of Monthly Q-Link mags!

[@ytdlgandalf]

5 year old me asks dad wth BBS is. Ffwd 26 years, 67 year old dad asks me wth Instagram is. Difference is, my dad was a god in the early 90s and I am an average Joe in 2018

[@HaveYouTriedGuillotines]

The correct answer to his question was "cancer."

[@DanaTheInsane]

I know. I'm 53 and I have noticed, the only people my age who seem to have kept up with tech are people who were doing tech in the 80's

[@lanatrzczka]

Ytdlgangalf, awesome comment.

[@techrev9999]

Ahhhh. I'm 47, and still a God. All bow before the mighty Technical Revolutionary. Hail the Revolution! Ahhh.... Sad your Dad dropped out. Sticking with tech all these years has really been a fun and amazing ride for me.

[@KnuckleHunkybuck]

+Michael MacDonald Nah, you're a turd. Twitter is for turds. Instagram is for turds. Give it a few more months, and KZbin will be for turds.

[@Lagib28]

Ahh, CCGMS. It was my terminal of choice back in my late 80's BBSing days. Great little program, fond memories of those days.

[@Havanacuba1985]

I used to use an Atari ST in the 90s and a 2400 modem , JANET network and unauthorised access bbs . Phrack, 2600. Good days

[@awwrelic]

Oof. I remember those halcyon days of the primitive, when I hooked onto a local freenet using my C64, a 1200 baud modem and a copy of Telix loaded from my 1571 floppy drive. Actually, that began in May of 1995, here in Columbus OH. Oh, the sheer joy of watching email hash because my mail was too big for a 1200 baud to handle efficiently. How fun it was to do a WAIS search to browse ASCII websites, and hit Usenet groups via various college servers (before I learned how to bypass that via the Freenet). And all this was available for 1 hour at a time, up to 2 hours per 24-hr period! No way in hell I would want to return to those days, but I wouldn't mind visiting for a few minutes!

[@cpcnw]

2400 modem (1200 baud) (V.26bis) here and connected to The Electric Dream bulletin board in the UK! My first ever email came via that boards Email to BBS Gateway!

[@RamLaska]

This is such bliss I still (just) remember when my grandmother bought me a 300 baud modem, and my poor mom actually paid for me to get on Compu$pend for a while.

[@darthbukowski6894]

I giggled just a little. Much praise to the tinker that made this attachment happen!

[@sofiagamez7007]

This was like watching Hackerman hacking time in Kung Fury.

[@vlazurah789]

Mario Gámez I read that as “This was like HughJackman time in Kung Fury.” I was extremely confused..

[@KnuckleHunkybuck]

I read that as "This was like watching Hackerman hacking time in Kung Fury." I guess I'm just fully literate.

[@jdisdetermined]

@@KnuckleHunkybuck hahaha

[@GreenAppelPie]

That’s cool as hell, I used to connect to BBSs at night and set my downloads that took an hour or more before I finally went to sleep.

[@TAGMedia7]

So many memories came flooding back because of this video. Thank you for this!!

[@PapiDoesIt]

I remember the excitement of logging into a BBS and reading the news each morning. I spent hours behind an Amiga keyboard.

[@1blisslife]

The information superhighway meet... The information superback roads!!!

[@Seawolf.Gaming]

Cables are still king. Wifi ain't got shit on cables.

[@billant2]

I agree... cable has a rock solid interference free super-duper connection, wireless can never touch.

[@KnuckleHunkybuck]

I can easily investigate what the interference might be on my cable connection, should the need arise. Were I to wirelessly connect any desired device, and happenstance should present myriad unknown calamities that could hinder my ability to properly circumvent further interference with my communicative facilities, my investigative capacity might in fact be flummoxed by the multitude of possible culprits.

[@paulstubbs7678]

yeah, ethernet cables etc are a lot more secure than WiFi, how long will WiFi6 last before it's publicly hacked.

[@0730bcorm]

The mortal enemy of WiFi: a couple of walls

[@rayceeya8659]

Am I the only one who thinks it's weird that the modern C64 peripherals are more powerful than the C64 itself?

[@ghenghiskhan9473]

why are people so dumb? ofcourse modern add-ons will be more powerful than the original hardware, which reflect the times and available processing power. It's a shame modern humans aren't as smart, perhaps because they are dumbed down by social media and Facebook.

[@0raffie0]

Would be nice if modern C64 game developers took notice of these modems and add an online multiplayer option in their games!

[@0730bcorm]

raffie high score boards would be dope!

[@philiplowran1375]

Dude this Video was great, the setup process was hillarious

[@RobUttley]

You're so right about the excitement of getting online. I first got online with an A500 (we couldn't afford a modem in our Spectrum days), and I ended up being part of Fidonet on a (then state-of-the-art) 286 PC. It really was a whole world. I remember babbling on to people in the pub about how amazing it was to connect to someone else's computer and share a file.... The imminent Spectrum Next supports this standard wifi chipset too, it will be interesting to see if it kicks off a new era of 8-bit BBS. Great video, fantastic memories. I didn't know about the Wifi64. Brilliant.

[@needforsuv]

3:18 that moment when your expansion has more processing power...

[@badkluster]

0:15 R.I.P. Video compression codec

[@Tallefer]

36. Have YOU ever threatened a guest with violence if he set a glass of water down next to the computer? (Y/N) > (almost no hesitation) *Y* :D

[@oncameramastery]

There's something perverse yet wonderful about such modern uses for old gear, love it!

[@mjsimons9757]

Ahhhhh, the days of the BBS. A 1200 k dial up Hayes modem, connected to YRS 80 CoCo. It was the future. Before you had abamanations like The Googles, you found the phone numbers of the latest or coolest bus by word of mouth, a flyer at the local computer store or sometime on another bus. Surfing was a late night activity, when phone rates were lower. Ahhhhhhh, the memories.

[@suoquainen]

Looks like "Norton Commander" for C64. Wish i had that at the time.

[@sofiagamez7007]

I was born in 95, but this type of technology makes me feel a nostalgic vibe, strange.

[@drkinferno72]

Windows 95 was my first so

[@jamesslick4790]

".....and Bob is your FRICKIN' uncle.." 😁

[@HuggieBear39]

0:40 Oh the fond memories this brings back.

[@jarrodhook]

0:45 are you ok? You’re answering yes to a bunch of disturbing questions. We are here for you if you need us. Great video as always.

[@duffman18]

It's from Mr Robot

[@Wallyworld30]

I remember back in the mid to early 90's some of my friends played an online D&D game that was text only called MUD. MUD was basically World of Warcraft without graphics. I remember one of them selling their MUD account for close to $1000. That was mid 90's $1000 when that was real money and a ton of money being a teenager. I personally never played D&D but I was big into Magic The Gathering and this meant I met a ton of D&D players at the local game shop. Speaking of which boy do I wish I still had my old M:TG collection my Black Lotus alone today is worth close to $10k.

[@stevenjlovelace]

I want to see an AC/DC chiptunes cover band called AT/DT.

[@brianrulez4140]

I almost memorized the Hayes AT command set back in the 90's and the this weird voice in the back of my head said 'You've got Mail' So miss the BBS days...lol

[@ninjamaster3453]

@@brianrulez4140 that you got mail guy only got a few hundred bucks if I recall. Works gig jobs or something now.

[@brianrulez4140]

@@ninjamaster3453 I was leaning towards AOL!!!

[@brianrulez4140]

@@ninjamaster3453 A o Hell kinda killed our BBS days Stateside :(

[@38911bytefree]

AT -> OK

[@navigatorofnone]

Oh yeah, i fondly remember those good old bbs days.

[@HudsonGTV]

0:55 I see you were about to type a "Y" for that question...

[@JesusisJesus]

Remember when they said that 2400 baud was the max you could stuff down a twisted pair of copper wires, er-hm, 14.4k baud 1990, 1995 - "Ha, we can get 56k down the copper" 2001 - "Ha Haaa, ADSL Muthafkers!"

[@okaro6595]

No, 2400 bps modem was 600 baud and 14.4 kbps modem was 2400 baud. Only in 300 bps was the baud rate same.

[@sharptoothtrex4486]

Even if you create a C64 laptop with all the C64 add-ons, including Wi-Fi, this makes this a great C64 laptop all time.

[@Firefoxfifty]

Was big into BBS's in the early 90's. Used to log on using my dad's IBM PC XT at the time. Myself and a friend at the time tried to set up our own BBS using a Amstrad PPC640 which had its own 1200 baud modem built in as far as i can remember.

[@chancelindsey]

I knew Craig Smith back in the day. He was a member of the Mid Cities Commodore Computer Club just west of Dallas, Texas. He went off to Texas A&M and haven't seen that name since! Of course our club BBS ran the CCGMS server. It was notable because it recorded every keystroke when leaving a message so you could do fun things with the cursor.

[@chancelindsey]

Craig ran around with another kid named Aaron Hightower. BBS and Terminal written by a couple of teenagers... People thought I was whiz kid at 10... But these kids were the bomb and I never came close to what they could do. I wonder where they are at today... I would have expected a startup of some sort by now.

[@DiyintheGhetto]

I'm working on my own small web within the 64 soon and other systems as well. It will start in Dec of 2019.

[@macrossactual]

My childhood, teenage years and current mid 40's... all in 40 columns.

[@KonElKent]

2:29 I do in fact have a frickin' Uncle Bob...

[@EdgyShooter]

Be careful, that wasn't just any therapist, that was Dr Freud!

[@elgamer5366]

Man i really like these old school videos. Could you make one conecting the dreamcast to the internet?

[@BryonLape]

Back in the late 80's one of my favorite FTP sites was White Sands Missile Base.

[@Kattywampus]

I stood up and cheered in my office, thx. More stuff for me to purchase that I've seen on your channel

[@AkhyarMaulanaPangeranWeb]

8 bit guy need this

[@Christopher-N]

David Murray probably has already got one.

[@lazy_gamer_dad]

That was awesome. I haven’t trawled BBS boards for a looooooong time. Great Job!

[@tomsuzyinfluencerinfj2712]

Haha, 1982, I had an acoustic coupler modem (and an Atari 8bit computer, of course), the telephone receiver was actually placed into this. From UK to USA Atari BBS, £25 for 15 minutes. Of course, couple of years later we had MicroLink with their 'fast' Miracle modems

[@e8root]

I imagine connecting to other people computers was one of the most magical experiences... and like all magical experiences of this type it can end in you catching the virus

[@morsine]

It's also called the NodeMCU, have one, being used to control some devices wirelessly, also compatible with Amazon Alexa!

[@pokemonmaster9325]

Oh my god somebody combined AVGN and The nostalgia critic into the ultimate nostalgia nerd!!!!

[@nekomasteryoutube3232]

This will probably work a lot better for some people versus going with a proper dial up connection since some area's have only some kind of VOIP phone service which doesnt play well with Dial up or Fax services.

[@KOSMOS1701A]

I don't own a Commodore 64, but just seeing things like this wifi card just bring a smile too my face.

[@vylbird8014]

Got you beat: I have a vintage 1989 radio modem interface. Hooks up to any dumb terminal, but the manual specifically contains instructions for using it with a C64. 1200bps on high-speed mode, 300 on low-speed, and range is intercontinental. But it is designed for use with licensed ham radio transceivers, so you can't play with it. Nor can I, because I've yet to find someone else who has one too.

[@hgfhghghgfhfghgfhghg538]

I have the rf net card beats stupid wifi

[@markfacebook]

Theres something "apocalyptic" about watching this. Like when the world ends, this is how humans will be using the internet.

[@billant2]

At 300 baud watching every character popping up one by one.

[@cybermansigma2547]

When The Matrix crashes, we fallback to Terminus... I can already see those worlds.

[@marcelojaviertwt]

Very nice! I'm a Basic programmer. I'm using Commodore, Sinclair 1000, Spectrum, Texas TI99, Talent MSX and others. Thanks for the video!

[@SWRadioConcepts]

Nice thing about PCs is easily available network cards, drivers, and TCP/IP apps. I have true internet in my PC/XT 5160. Pull up websites, access Gopher servers, read Usenet groups, FTP back and forth to my Windows 10 PC, etc.

[@KnuckleHunkybuck]

0:47 At 2AM in the morning, as opposed to 2AM in the afternoon or 2PM in the morning.

[@meanmikebojak1087]

Made me think back to a software package called "FreeNet". I think it started in Cleveland Ohio. The software was sold to cities for a community bbs. The last I saw of it was the "Victoria FreeNet" about 25 year ago.

[@c64customs]

Fantastic video, I was stoked seeing the usage of the digital tape deck!

[@okaro6595]

Fir there were no 2400 baud modems back then in home use at least. A typical modem in early 80s was 300 baud (300 bit/s) or 600 baud (1200 bit/s). In 1984 the 600 baud 2400 bit/s standard as introduced. Baud means signal elements per second. Many modems coded four bits (16 levels) in a signal elements.

[@kandigloss6438]

nice video, I did some telnet digging a few years ago, nice to know some of those servers are still around because it seemed a lot of them went down when I poked around again a year or so go. And have a great evening or morning yourself, depending on when u might see this. ;)

[@telengardforever7783]

CCGMS!!!!

[@feanenatreides]

PlantageNet? Second best network name I've ever seen. First being Martin Router King.

[@maxmustermann1455]

for WiFi routers, I always found SkyNet to be most fitting.

[@flounder31]

Wu Tang LAN

[@billant2]

NotYourWiFey!

[@cybermansigma2547]

@@maxmustermann1455 Yeeee

[@xapplimatic]

Slight correction on computer modernity…. I used to dialup to the Internet on my Commodore Amiga 3000. I had software I bought which ran a full early 90s TCP-IP stack and had no trouble accessing things online at the time. Can't even remember what it was called now, but it did work an it worked decently well.

[@emmettturner9452]

Thumbnail had me thinking this was just a nostalgic video. Happy to see that it’s a product video instead. :)

[@paulstubbs7678]

I found the WiFi64 code on the internet a while ago, and built it with an RS232 interface to suit my TRS-80 computer. With RS232 it should work with any machine sporting a serial port. Most BBS seem to support either Commodore or IBM PC graphics, so the good old TRS-80 is a little left in the cold here (Maybe I should just start up my own BBS) however all the BBS's I visited had the option to skip graphics. Now if I could just figure out how to 'dial into' my NAS with this device and save my software etc to my local network I will be extra happy.

[@spunkmire2664]

That connection part was great. 2:35

[@GRBtutorials]

And where’s Ethernet64?

[@hgfhghghgfhfghgfhghg538]

I have had a adapter called rr net for years now it's an Ethernet card that goes in the cartridge slot works much better than the Wi-Fi

[@badmeme486]

@@hgfhghghgfhfghgfhghg538 course it does, its ethernet. Nothing less for my pc

[@DeadReckon]

The data from this video passing through my head made me sneeze...

[@UncleAwesomeRetro]

I didn't pay much attention to connecting c64 and amigas to the internet, but then recently I connected the amiga to pc with serial cable, and had to use the command line interface a bit and,,it is something special about using old computers and command line to ,,just do stuff, and get stuff to work :)

[@st3ddyman]

Thumbs up for the dramatic sequence

[@nicholas_scott]

The telnet BBS boards were huge in the 80s, using CBTerm etc. I guess in theory, if those machines we connected to had something like Lynx, it would also work

[@ninjamaster3453]

Telnet BBS in 80s? Not that I recall. Maybe in niche circles of academia but the majority was via phone line. Remember Ma Bell? Hahaha

[@iRDaBrit]

I had a Compunet modem for my C64 back in the day. My Mum still likes to tell the story about how I ran up a 3000 UK Pound telephone bill that quarter :)

[@JGreen-le8xx]

It's awesome that after all this time, people are still supporting legacy technology. 😄

[@generalgk]

2am in the morning? As opposed to 2am in the afternoon. Fucking brilliant

[@meeshkingaming2473]

Do British c64s look different from Canadian ones? The one I have is a bit yellow (yellowing) but brown keys where yours is all white/cream

[@gwishart]

That's actually a C64C, which was a 1986 redesign of the C64 with a nicer case and slightly less shit keyboard.

[@SomeOrangeCat]

2400 Baud? Well Aren't YOU Mister Uptown Fancyton?! Are you going to ever review Cloanto's Commodore line of legal emulation packages? I own the one for the C64, and its pretty great.

[@AnimalFacts]

Looks like a lot of fun

[@chaoticsystem2211]

A therapist was what my parents needed after they discovered the first phone bill after me getting a modem :D

[@Jikyuu]

Ooooh Back Office crossover

[@JSEvans-or5xe]

I would love to see a C64 telnet to a local linux machine and then do actual work like using the lynx browser to surf the web and alpine to read email

[@TheAkashicTraveller]

So, you'd just use the C64 as a terminal for the linux machine? You might as well just buy a C64 case for a raspberry pi and be done with it.

[@NimhLabs]

Eh... Lynx really does not work for surfing the web anymore. The lack of support for CSS3, HTML5 and Javascript kind of has it not able to do anything on the current web. And... before you ask, yes, the source code is available... and it is freaking horrifying to try to grep through.

[@YOARTHFU]

Strange that the c64 scene still not designed a system for online games and apps. For example: loading game levels over the internet. Just imagine, running a Steam like c64 store from cartridge, where you can fetch games, apps directly from the net.

[@Big_Tex]

One of my regrets in life is not logging on to bulletin boards in the 1980s when I could have. My best friend did, but he was more of a true geek than I was.

[@MrZombie999]

aah the Commodore 64 with its peeks and pokes kinda miss it but dont at same time, was a good time

[@AnnabelleTheRose]

Ahh the good old days of BBS...!

[@Wedeemgaming]

Something about that excites me... Very cool!

[@Christopher-N]

(8:01) I thought that read "... Best Tea!" rather than Best Ten.

[@ApurvaSukant]

Got my like on that dramatic sequence XD

[@Dipmeincheese]

is there anyway i can can play these games today on a modern windows 10 pc

[@chrisb7528]

The 128 with 80 Columns i'm interested in using, I miss BBS days.

[@rickasheyelabs5662]

You can use some of these domains on your modern computer without a c64 you can use the telnet client in windows

[@rodmunch69]

I've been buying up all the winmodems I can get as I think hipsters are going to move forward from records and discover BBS's soon and then modem prices are going to shoot up.