Cop Shoot Cop - Room 429 (1993)

[@ElDuce69]

Devin Townsend sent me here.

[@ericmsandoval]

🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑

[@KIRKHAUS878]

So what!

[@tptangenivy28]

Same 2024

[@laurentzduba1298]

1993 may be a distant memory but I still cherish the time when MTV's Alternative Nation aired CSC's Room 429 then followed it with King Missile's Detachable Penis.

[@leperwitch]

Tod Ashley is one of music's most underrated lyricists.

[@theshiggityshwa4359]

Dude is fuckin BRUTAL omg. I love his lyrics.

[@thepossum7552]

I was actually introduced to the song through the SYL cover, which was really good. But, hearing the original ... nothing can surpass that freakin' edge it has.

[@father042]

Joseph Price Haha same, Devin rules

[@dangergirldesigns5943]

+JR P Same. The City album was massive. Took a while to realize it was a cover, kind of like The Badge (played by Pantera) on The Crow OST. It's always interesting to hear the original. This band owns.

[@ziochristmas]

well, thanks heavi devy :)

[@A.D.88.B.M]

Cover is way better

[@f4u5tus]

Gabriel Maco cover has better production, but as much as I love Devin, this is a better vocal performance.

[@tristanweary]

Cop Shoot Cop was a terrific band with a great sound. Sort of like a convergence of NIN, Helmet, and Morphine.

[@yuriyanov3217]

NIN has never been nowhere nearabouts. Think Swans in that threesome instead.

[@enVPRJKT]

I wouldn't have found this incredible band if it weren't for SYL. I love them both, and see no reason why people would try and create some kind of competition between them. It's not like listening to one ruins the other - and if it does, I feel sorry for the people who can't appreciate both these groundbreaking bands. RIP CSC, RIP SYL - May CSC & SYL live forever.

[@f4u5tus]

Firewater and Devy's various musings are pretty great. hello from 7 years later as well

[@jasonmoyer]

the fuck is SYL

[@Firefly12569]

​@@jasonmoyer a band called "Strapping Young Lad" check them out they're really good

[@AUM_-po9sc]

@@jasonmoyer, Strapping Young Lad.

[@thomasrogers9076]

SYL cover brought me here. The original is the best. What a great song.

[@exley213]

One of my all time favourite bands, perfect track to introduce people to the almighty Cop Shoot Cop

[@JayGloverSuperNaught]

Lol, this song sent me to Devin Townsend fair trade I think 🤘🖤🤘🖤

[@exley213]

@@JayGloverSuperNaughtOh man, even his cover is amazing! 🤘🤘

[@dudenhtown]

Hearing this for the first time 30 years ago on the radio was something special 🖤❤️

[@giacomocottinelli8742]

I can`t believe mtv time ago trasmitted songs like this, as it`s hard to remember when mtv trasmitted music

[@1conor]

Before reality shows took over MTV

[@ianh6845]

Thanks Devin Townsend, for making me a fan of this band. \,,/

[@chaislaw5014]

the two bass set up worked with the vocals so well this was music that was a literal physical experience, you came away shaking and exhausted. Legendarily missed.

[@alejandrocurado5134]

Most songs and bands in early 90s demonstrated amazing talent and creativity. It was a magical period

[@jaundicebox]

Fucking hell, what happened to MTV

[@jasonh7128]

I was just talking about this. We were bitching about MTV not showing videos, and I realized that growing up I couldn't just type a song name into google and immediately watch the video. How are they supposed to compete with that?

[@Rcdvst808]

Being an old punk brought me here

[@FunboxKaraoke]

This is a masterpiece.

[@hereonmars]

TIL that this isn't a SYL song.... wow. This is amazing.

[@jasminenikdow9721]

Devin brought me here too... This is awesome💯🎭💃

[@theangrycro-mag9444]

I opened for these guys in '89 or '90 at CBGBs back when NYC still had an interesting music scene. Phenomenal band and show. The two bass player thing (High end and Low end) was still pretty revolutionary at the time. Their whole sound just tore through your chest like a steam train.

[@1conor]

The Angry French Existentialist (AKA The Frenchistentialist) maybe one day they'll reunite

[@theangrycro-mag9444]

Only if my band can reunite and open for them again at CBGBs! Haha.

[@keithbornzin8888]

The Angry French Existentialist (AKA The Frenchistentialist) DITTO, here in Portland, Oregon! My band HITTING BIRTH opened for em too & we were thee ONLY 2 bands using shopping carts with tons of effects! We had dual standing drum kits w/sawblades, hubcaps, massive distorted bass & NO guitar. GOODTIMES!

[@natesot]

@@keithbornzin8888 Was in a band and was a standup drummer and we had two bass players, everything was great doing shows tours etc.. then the other guys in the band saw Cop shoot Cop and replaced me with a traditional drummer for fear they would be see s a copy cat band. I was pissed and they never sounded as good with the new drummer in my opinion. So its nice to see you guys stayed with the standing drummer good for you. ps they never did change there two bass players .

[@fastfrankblack]

The Angry Cro-Mag Yes! That’s the description. Imagine this being the first band you ever saw live. Absolutely mind - and rib cage - blowing!!

[@bobbyberetta4206]

This song would have fit perfectly on the Crow soundtrack.

[@cocilrow3902]

totally

[@ripseshrecords5350]

Man these guys are massively underrated! Lost amidst the other great grunge and post grunge bands of the 90's. Too bad.

[@suzannedegrasse2305]

Not lost to me! Truly beloved by those who heard them! I think, to real musicians, that matters more than widespread fame? but I dunno.

[@bryanpeterson5646]

This is the comment I was looking for, there was so many of those bands you hear 25 or so years later and think "They should have been so much bigger than they were". Stompbox is my go to example of this, they put out one album that was absolute gold and then... nothing... But at least their guitar player eventually became the music director for the Blue Man Group. Really makes you wonder what kind of musical revolution we missed out on though...

[@walmartian422]

Everybody talks about the cover but the vocals in this original are just so much more real.

[@1conor]

Never heard the cover till people starting commenting on this video, it's very different

[@walmartian422]

Me either by any chance do you have the “Any Day Now” video I can’t find one that isn’t some terrible low quality rip

[@palomabegin3517]

God, I loved this song.

[@williamjosephdunn5879]

Saw these guys at Maxwell's in Hoboken back in the 90's. Soul Coughing opened for them before their first album was out. It was one of the best shows I saw that decade and I think it cost me less than $12. Sucks being old, but I'm glad I was in my 20's in the 90's. You didn't need that much money to see a great show. I feel bad for kids today, They got shafted worse than we did.

[@3hero_]

i'm really late to this comment section but yeah i'm in high school and it's way too expensive to go to most shows. it sucks, can't go to any non-local band's show without paying a minimum of like $80 lol

[@magad419]

Saw them @ emo’s in Houston Texas

[@anticarnistvegan]

inflation and exploitation. blame conservative policies.

[@CJCJCJCJ]

@@3hero_ What are you talking about? Local/underground shows are like 10-15 bucks max. Cop shoot cop was not playing 80 dollar shows. Even in Miami where the cost of living is astronomical I find warehouse and dive bar shows for 5-10 bucks every weekend. Cop shoot cop wasn't playing stadiums

[@3hero_]

@@CJCJCJCJ i was referring to nowadays when i said $80 lmao bruh

[@EnnioPalanca]

The possible peak of a colossal discography. This is one is an enormous one.

[@santiagosanchezblanco9430]

Desde 1994 empece a escuchar este album magnifico,increible.Banda sonora de mis dias de entoces.Cancion superlativa,banda de primera categoria.

[@pretzelthedude]

Was just jamming to the SYL version, oblivious that it was a cover until I went to look up the lyrics and this popped up in the search. I'm blown the fuck away. Have to look up this band I somehow missed back in the day and give them a good hard listen.

[@JayGorham]

Check out Firewater, too! Tod A. is a great songwriter and storyteller.

[@radiv6502]

Same. I always loved the SYL song. Found out yesterday that it was a cover. Been an SYL fan since about 2003.

[@VivaMidnight]

@@JayGorham Just listened to the single mix of Get Out of My Head on YT, will have to investigate further, much appreciated!

[@santiagosanchezblanco9430]

Fantástica banda de principios y mediados de los años 90.Epoca muy fructífera,con bandas que hunden sus raíces en el final de los 80:estos CSC,Jesús Lizard,Girls against Boys,Leaving Trains,Drive Like Jehu,Silverfish,Víctims Family,Nomeansno,Today is the day,Guzzard,Cows,Lubricated Goat,Gas Huffer,Sebadoh,Didjits,Come,Janitor Joe,Unsane y un largo etc.etc.

[@patwaters3486]

Jim Carrol Band brought me here...

[@silentfunkies]

this is an amazing song, and so is the SYL version. this version is more like an old-style-horror-movie type creepy, but the SYL version is more of a stab-you-in-your-sleep-with-a-rusty-knife type creepy

[@eleanor1187]

I love how the keyboards sound in this version they sound like an entrance theme for satan

[@amdrajt]

Someone asked what my favourite song of the 1990s is the other day and, without hesitation, I pointed them to Room 429. Sums up what I enjoyed most about the myriad sounds of that decade.

[@licpedals459]

I saw them at CB's in the early 90's, and they were amazing. The hi/low bass thing was genius

[@1conor]

One band I wish I had see LIVE

[@tamaraclaire1842]

Such a great live band.

[@nodrogdivad]

Living is for Learning. Dying is Forgetting, Once we have FOrgotten, then we can go on living. I tried looking this up to see if they quoted any famous philosopher,. but all that came up was this song and some other vague links that had nothing to do with what this one single lyric conveyed. Brilliant!

[@Blueyez369]

I love the SYL version of this, it has long been one of my favorite songs of theirs. This is my first time listening to the original and there isn't a whole lot of difference between the two. I'd say this version is a little... dirtier? grittier? A little less clean. Both are great versions but I have to give these guys credit for writing such a killer song.

[@itwasntmeboningbivvy181]

This is such an underrated and under appreciated band, that should have got more recognition! But because it's not top 40.

[@bowzerblack]

I had no idea this was not an SYL song! Amazing song and cover

[@1conor]

I never knew it was ever covered

[@bowzerblack]

@@1conor strapping young lad do a spot-on cover

[@bryanpeterson5646]

This is the comment I was looking for. For 20 years I had no idea this wasn't Strapping Young Lad. Even now, listening to the original, I can't help but feel that both musically and lyrically, it sounds VERY much like an SYL song. Maybe that's why I never noticed...

[@ar156]

Same here, but I knew only a couple of years ago. Came to re visit the original after listening to Devin's podcast about "City"

[@auknix]

I'm the opposite. I knew right away it must be a cover, but had no idea who. However it took me until today to finally look it up.

[@GenusMus]

oh.. how i ADORE the way video fits to the song. especially 0:00-0:13. pictures and camera.. also, two bass guitars, keys, tods colour of voice and lyrics.. one of the most astonishing things my eyes have ever seen and ears ever heard..

[@karas_jo_na_sek7088]

Ned's Joana here (Gloria's & Dan's daughter)remember New York Holographic Lab. in east 3rd Street I was that little girl that you used to get nervous that my mom took me to CBGB's. Call please it would be great to hear from you. Cheers

[@SkyHighAndFree]

1st time i heard this was on my Mesomorph Enduros album, great album and awesome song they don't make them like they used to, nice vid ty uploader

[@HinduPez]

GREAT SONG! This whole album is so stellar. Vicious, pretty, relentless, dark.

[@sillylittlemonkey7130]

Brutal lyrics ngl lmao

[@dreamingnihilist653]

i love that bleak 90s art house black and white video look, damn I’m gonna watch me some Eraser head now

[@nociasd7773]

great song from a great album

[@1conor]

👊👊👊

[@sventrex93]

I think that the lyrics is simply perfect. I like to imagine that the room 429 is the small room in our mind where we hide in with the other part of us that make us feel less alone, when we need to escape from the rest of the world and also from ourselves

[@stornkolson]

freakin GREAT BAND!!! Thanx for the upload. I was always into these guys, NIN, Helmet, Old Clutch, Quicksand, Bungle. Man these guys were sweet. Super good album. Release was cool too

[@nuckafacejohnson]

off genre, but have you ever heard thOught indUstry?

[@najsuroviji]

What a load of audio / visual delicacy and pleasure. Much much underrated.

[@darthtortugas]

saw these guys in san diego next morning was at the record store getting the album THE ONLY time i have ever done that for an opening band i had never heard of but these guys had me hooked

[@dudenhtown]

HAVEN'T HEARED THIS SONG IN OVER 16 YEARS. DEFINITELY A FAN OF THIS ONE,THE ORIGINAL. NOW I CAN'T STOP SINGING THIS SONG. RICE'S 91.7 KTRU PLAYED THIS WHOLE ALBUM ONE SAT. NIGHT & I FEEL IN LOVE WITH THIS ALBUM, SUPRISE, SUPRISE! PROPS TO 90'S MUSIC, I KNOW I SURE AS HELL MISS IT!

[@xerotolerance2477]

Here because I discovered a bunch of epic music from the documentary "Underground Inc." Soooo many god tier musicians went and still go unnoticed it's unreal.

[@bobjoe6001]

I was sent here by ziltoid such a good song I paused Devin’s to listen here first

[@MoonlightDevil27]

I absolutely love this song. Truly deserves more recognition than what it got.

[@brycepunk1]

I have listened to this album and loved it for so many years... for some reason never searched for a video, never imagined what they even looked like. mind=blown

[@BassCoversWithTabs]

Awesome tune, so much 90s. Lyrically one of the best songs I know, up there with Leonard Cohen's "The Future". And it's so strange to see the MTV logo over such a dark, hopeless, and disturbing music video.

[@Andinator]

I heard SYL's version first and thought it was really gothic sounding and cool. I heard this one after and didn't like it as much first time around, but then i kept coming back and realised it is so much better. thematically it's so much darker and sinister.

[@mb2453]

Man, what an epic track

[@nbates64]

one o' the best live bands ever and fine folks to boot!

[@jasonh7128]

Dev brought me here. No, not the cover. He just plugged them in an interview. I'll give a couple more of their songs a listen.

[@alecwelzant]

Okay, here's the straight dope without the pious bullcrap. I think the vast majority of us can agree that this song is awesome in both its iterations. For my part, I heard the SYL version years earlier and if it weren't for that, I wouldn't even know who Cop Shoot Cop was...

[@mickmcmick8247]

Devy brought me here.

[@BurnzyBurninator]

Why did I scroll down to the comments? WHY?!?!?!

[@doctorshifty83]

Yeah this song is just as eerie as Therapy?'s 'Teethgrinder.' First time I heard this band...probably my favorite new old song.

[@cemeteryofthieves5001]

Todd turned me on to the Swans and I'll always be grateful for that. Cheers from Texas ~

[@bitxtrc]

What you don't understand is where everything's leading When all the signs you see still point to overload As you reach out your hand, a shattered picture's receding Like tail-lights along that lonesome stretch of broken road 'Cause you've been to the past and it's just a reminder A recollection of faces that will never come to call When you've cut through the mask, when you've been through the grinder Sometimes you forget that you had ever been there at all Up here in room 429 Yeah the world ain't so unkind I want to take you to that empty room tonight In the shadow of doubt, in the crush of an instant Standing in the rain outside my door hand on your knife When you reach a brick wall, there is still a decision Always thought if I had to lose I'd surely choose my life Up here in room 429 Yeah the world ain't so unkind I want to take you to that empty room tonight We'll tell the world outside the door That we ain't never coming back no more We're going to stay in here till we turn off the night Till we turn off the night City breathes so softly, everything is sleeping I am at the window silently watching I can see you standing alone against the winter I can hear you asking but the streets they are not giving Don't look to the ocean, restless in its dreaming Don't look to the heavens for they will tell you nothing If living is for learning then dying is forgetting Once we have forgotten then we can go on living In a lifetime of hope, in a second of kindness There is never a doubt that we are born and die alone From within or without there's no way they can find us When they knock at the door the lights are on but we ain't home Up here in room 429 Yeah the world ain't so unkind I want to take you to that empty room tonight We'll tell the world outside the door That we ain't never coming back no more I want to stay in here till we turn off the night We're going to stay in here till we turn off the night Till we turn off the night Till we turn off the night Till we turn off the night

[@thevelvetroom9449]

never heard this band in the 90s and i dont understand how. someone said viagra boys sounded like cop shoot cop, but this crushes viagra boys.

[@1conor]

Marilyn Manson called them his biggest Influence

[@deathbox75]

Wow. Such eloquence.

[@PreacherNny]

Had no idea Richard Kern directed this. That guy just does it all doesn't he

[@FormerlyMrBean667]

Amazing song by an amazing band.

[@PrimitiveInTheExtreme]

🔊🎶💫💥💫🎶🔊

[@MrMeltJr]

Didn't know the SYL song was a cover, this is great.

[@1conor]

You should check out cop shoot cop, they had a few Great albums

[@paolosince66]

great band, i saw them long time ago to Milan and they stoned me.

[@magad419]

Glad I got to see them live! Great show one of the best I’ve seen.

[@Feder066]

Both versions (SYL and Cop Shoot Cop) are great

[@skidotcom1]

i love how this "live" version is the one the submit to mtv. true artistry. money is there. compromising your soul through your music is off. this video is turned on.

[@Negative.headspace]

Human impact brought me here

[@simplicizzy]

Here from reddit bc i was looking for bands w two basses!!

[@1conor]

Girls against Boys

[@monkeydyo]

reminds me "The Sound of Silence" (Simon & Garfunkel)

[@francoisSwine]

+Yoann F I completely agree with you, I though the same without knowing this version, this is a sign that there's probably an inspiration from original band

[@WeWantYouToStay]

I can't hear any similarities at all...

[@francoisSwine]

first lyrics have a really close rythm to sound of silence's first lyrics, pay attention, it's hearable

[@akosbev7757]

I love this song and band, but it is the same melody as Sound of Silence

[@slugcereal8647]

thatssss why i thought i had heard it before haha

[@primatona]

@Dextear he is the singer in the band :)

[@foreverAmber369]

So many beautiful memories

[@JimJWalker]

I saw them in Orlando. They were amazing. 9000 views? I guess genius is not always recognized.

[@Elidoransgar]

2 Basses, 1 Band

[@krauler]

Classic C$C. I can't believe this was ever on Mtv!

[@Butch_Odowd_Sculpture]

The SYL version of this song doesn't even compare.

[@comradehermit9320]

Remember when MTV could give you PTSD? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[@АндрейМуравцов]

My Fave Song!!!!

[@lopakavolmer6723]

FUCK YES this song always calmed me down

[@duantorruellas716]

Reflects the bleakness of the early period .like owners lament by scratch acid that goes back further. The best stuff was really coming out of Europe not nyc.

[@JoShUa_J78]

How did I not know about this band?

[@1conor]

Better late than never

[@TechiRef]

In comparison to the SYL edition, I really dig the vocal processing on this one, but the instrumentation is better for me in the SYL version.

[@breademoji]

Hey butthurt CSC fans, keep in mind that despite the fact that some of us prefer the SYL cover, a few of us are now encouraged to check out some of CSC's other material. This version is awesome, so I know I will!

[@lucifersam99]

I just saw Swans a few days ago. Love these guys as well, but olawd- Phil's hair. xD

[@johndejac73]

vrey good song. very creative

[@Fr0stflame]

Thumbs up if you ended up here because of the SYL cover :) Always fascinating how you keep discovering 'new' bands because of this. Great song!

[@valeriecorre7794]

Excellent !!!

[@lndustrialpain121]

EXCELLENT X 999999999999999999OOOOO9999999990000000909900MILLIONS

[@EYEROCCO]

WHEN MUSIC MATTERED❤️

[@jayk9777]

When music was possible now we have to marvel at African rappers

[@jordanowens3748]

I love the amount of butthurt the SYL cover of this song generated.

[@slugcereal8647]

back when mtv was cool

[@weirdosheep619]

When I grow up I want to be Tod Ashley. I'm 24 now, still waiting for it to happen. One of these days...

[@hettyawen4289]

I had the biggest crush on Nantz when I was 13 and he was in Virus. 6 years later I was the girlfriend of the guy who "stole" Nantz girlfriend and Cop Shoot Cop was going on and Theatre of Trangression, it such a cool time in LES those years, cop shoot cop was the game plan then, too bad T of T turned into bad art porn. Cassandra Starke was the coolest.

[@actiQ]

You were shooting dope with the guys from Cop back in the day??

[@trevorristow3943]

Cinema, not Theater.

[@europa_bambaataa]

Soul coughing live performance sent me here