2030 UK Petrol and Diesel Car Ban - Points and Facts

[@patrickm.4754]

Considering UK households are struggling to heat their homes this winter, it begs the question if, and how, can they afford to charge their cars.

[@joeymclovin53]

Well said Patrick

[@angrygromit93]

Same way that others afford to fill thier vehicles with gasoline/diesel

[@rjds1800]

Exactly, I'm not convinced about EVs and are they really that environmentally friendly? I doubt it. As for Net Zero..... nope not going there.

[@EXSKIN]

@@angrygromit93 5 mins compar3ed to 35-60 mins

[@angrygromit93]

@@EXSKIN what does time have to do with affordability?

[@teamgaming1294]

Half a million quid on charging points in the streets?? 😂 Yet we have to pay double the electric bill and living costs are through the roof... The UK government is actually brain dead

[@neilwilliams2907]

Billion, not million 😲 .

[@aaroncousins4750]

@@neilwilliams2907 dont mind him, he isnt the brightest. He will figure it out eventually, after going off and protesting

[@maalikserebryakov]

@@aaroncousins4750 arrogant aaron You are an example of the dunning kruger effect

[@millie0121]

They want us to have nothing

[@joseph1845]

It's not incompetence, all government MPs with any power are signed up members of the World Economic Forum.

[@kristianTV1974]

I'm sticking with the brand new diesel I bought in 2007, which is when, by the way, we were told at the time that diesel was the way forward. 163k miles into that car, still drives like new (no joke) and gives 48mpg. I'm not chopping that in for anything else for the foreseeable.

[@jameshall890]

My petrol 2009 aygo does roughly 60 MPG.

[@stevied6965]

I’ve a 52 golf tdi 130. Had it ten year and is bulletproof. Absolutely love the car. Bout 48 mpg also. I’ve no desire for any this electric apart from my tooth brush.

[@motaboi5397]

​@@jameshall890but thats a small tinbox

[@oddities-whatnot]

@@motaboi5397 does it matter what size the car is if it suits their lifestyle ? No. They simply point out they have a cheap car that is giving good MPG instead of paying for a new car.

[@MajorKlanga]

Thanks for a very clear and balanced summary. I'm old enough to remember reading about Audi developing hydrogen propulsion for cars back in the late 70's.

[@RiderRated18]

I still find it suspicious that the original date for the overall ban of brand new petrol/diesel cars was 2040. That always felt like a realistic date for EV’s and the infrastructure to be fully ready, but then it just suddenly changed to 2030 which doesn’t feel like enough time for everything to be up to scratch.

[@timsmith5339]

I worry that you are right. I think the date move was a moment of bravado and oneupmanship by Boris. The trouble is, he's accelerated it on paper but not in action. I'm an EV driver and I feel it out on the road. We have gone from not enough and unreliable chargers, through a short sweet spot where I thought things were really taking off, back to not enough and unreliable chargers. The take up of EVs is going faster that the infrastructure needed to support them. Still, must stay optimistic.

[@JavaAndroid]

? The infrastructure can NEVER be 'ready'. And, EV's already have 60,000 miles extra of pollution, due to their production pollution. 😉

[@cannaroe1213]

​@@JavaAndroid I built my EV in my garage. Alright some might call it a bicycle, but it's halfway there. Certainly drinks chain oil.

[@EconaelGaming]

I find the round numbers suspicious. It's not like it went from 2043 to 2034, no it went from 2040 to 2030. That alone tells you that the people who decided this have no clue whether it's feasible or not, they just pull these numbers out of thin air.

[@dylanrodrigues9267]

Hoping and praying 🙏 that Porsche and Lambo hurry up with their synthetic fuel development

[@AverageAlien]

No, piss off. The people need to hurry up and wake up to overthrow or ignore the tyrant state.

[@PiaDoBan]

There actually is a "synthetic fuel" it's called ethanol, and can be produced from basically any thing that can be fermented, for example sugar cane, you are basically capturing CO2 when the plants are growing and releasing it when you burn the fuel, you are not adding CO2, you are exchanging

[@AverageAlien]

@@PiaDoBan it's shit, low performance, engine damaging trash

[@AverageAlien]

@@PiaDoBan it still produces CO2 you mong

[@ocelot_zz]

me too 😢

[@jreererer8490]

As a car enthusiast, i feel horrible about this thing happening all over the world.

[@AverageAlien]

Don't comply. It's simple. You comply, we all lose. Keep driving what you want to drive. Ignore the government. When they come knocking, do NOT comply. I repeat, never comply. You are weak if you comply. You are not a man if you comply.

[@jreererer8490]

@@AverageAlien I will drive the ever loving shit out of my golf 3 1.9TDI until it dies

[@Umbasaa]

@@jreererer8490 You better complt, combustion engine vehicles are destroying the world! Get an electric car or stay on the bus buddy

[@sunniboi7105]

@@Umbasaa at this point you might aswell get a bycicle, much cheaper than a EV and you dont have to pay anything in taxes. Not to mention the absence of lithium batteries

[@sunniboi7105]

@@laviniusvacariu5826 just yesterday i saw a post of an electric maseratti(?) catching fire when staying in some guy's garrage. If that is safe then idk what to tell this @run guy.

[@dillanmistry]

In Germany they scrapped this idea, Germany has never looks so good before

[@ConquerDriving]

I didn't know that, thank you for letting me know.

[@kingslayer2731]

No? There will be no new petrol and diesel cars after 2035

[@AliElBaba]

@@kingslayer2731 If i remember correct they cancelled that

[@kingslayer2731]

@@ConquerDriving I think he is wrong. The EU voted that from 2035 new cars have to be emission free, that means no petrol or diesel. One option for keeping ICE cars would be to use E-Fuels

[@kingslayer2731]

@@AliElBaba i can't find a article or something similar that would suggest that the EU changed it's mind

[@louiszhang3050]

This is one of the most easy to understand, unbiased, and well-researched pieces I was able to find about the news of banning petrol and diesel cars. Certainly this research can apply to most developed countries with few adjustments. Well done!

[@iskindersam7834]

How can you say its well researched if you don't know yourself. Which bit was he right about?

[@maicalvlad6765]

One more thing to note: With ICE cars, you have the option and freedom to work on your car by yourself or go to a local street mechanic if something goes wrong. With an electric car, you’ll be waiting for weeks or even months to get it fixed if there’s some sort of fault. Not to mention the tuning potential and the possibility of modifying your car, which is something that’s highly limited on electric vehicles.

[@Tensquaremetreworkshop]

Yes, they become transport, rather than toys.

[@timsmith5339]

Only if you own a pre-1990s classic. I haven't owed a car that I can work on (other than oil changes and running gear) for decades. My electric car is no worse in this regard (except that there is no oil to change and the brakes will last the life of the car).

[@Tensquaremetreworkshop]

@@timsmith5339 But they still want to change the brake fluid every year (in some countries). Ask why, and they claim moisture ingress. Of course, fitting a vapour barrier in the breather would solve this- but no manufacturer does.

[@timsmith5339]

@@Tensquaremetreworkshop Well I don't know about that but it is a small issue to argue about when your burning several gallons of petrol every day don't you think?

[@Tensquaremetreworkshop]

@@timsmith5339 Gallons- gosh, I remember those… No, my consumption is less than a litre per day. And I hate being ripped off- or rather attempted; I never allow such replacement.

[@michaeluwu_lamp1774]

Hope I can afford a brand new petrol car before 2030.

[@rufusgreenleaf2466]

To be honest i believe petrol cars as new as even 2029 will be so energy efficient, they might as well be full electric. You can buy new petrol cars now that are green to the environment.

[@collinslfc]

The problem you will have is that the government will tax petrol and diesel cars massively to discourage people from buying them. Plus taxing the fuel itself even more.

[@MusaM8]

@@rufusgreenleaf2466 Even the most efficient petrol engines waste over 80% of their energy to heat and noise. They will always emit air and water pollutants, and the extraction and refinement of oil is horrible for the environment too.

[@supered40-t5b]

@@MusaM8 that number is rather 50%, if we’re talking about the most efficient internal combustion engines and comparing a petrol’s energy density to battery’s density, it definitely does make up for it.

[@bibalnasaha2534]

@@MusaM8 EV production isn’t much better, the lithium and cobalt used for batteries are often extracted from conflict zones using child/slave labour and extremely environmentally toxic chemical processes. There’s 2 sides to every coin

[@mat_tamarin]

Great video, just wanted to say that new drivers should NEVER purchase a black-box policy. Many insurers will scam their users by claiming their black-box recorded poor driving habits. It's just not worth the hassle. Pay a bit more for a normal policy.

[@NanaGlover]

A bit more? It's atleast a couple thousand more if not more than that

[@lukesalvidge118]

@@NanaGlover rip mine wasn't that much more, though I don't have an exact figure because I am fortunate to have mine paid by my parents

[@BondoV2]

@@NanaGlover my first car was a 1.2 ford ka mk2, 1.3k without blackbox and like 1k with one. i went without one since its wasn't really that much more.

[@iskindersam7834]

What makes this vid great.

[@robblake8999]

that driving section was amazing. these videos are so down to earth, informative, and well produced! thank you conquer driving!!

[@jorgemtds]

I'm screwed, I love manual gearboxes and petrol cars...

[@SPEED_BOYZ_19]

As a car enthusiast i really love the manuels and i would be very sad to see it being a thing in the past

[@bronyarollason4641]

I passed my test today!! I’d had lessons in the past but mainly learnt from my parents and your amazing videos! Thank you so much for what you do, you helped me so much!

[@collinslfc]

And what's your thoughts on the diesel and petrol ban in 2030? You know..the whole point of this video...

[@ConquerDriving]

That's a fantastic achievement, congratulations on passing!

[@bronyarollason4641]

@@collinslfc sorry for breaking the rules of KZbin 🙃 Just felt his most recent video was the best way to get him to see my appreciation. You can easily ignore my comment 😊

[@dogastus]

Congrats!

[@PrinceAndrewFucksKids]

@@bronyarollason4641 why do you need validation from people for passing your driving test? Thousands pass every year, nobody cares.

[@Jamesdanielfitness]

I love these fact based videos, want to see more of these! I’d like to see you driving in more places as well. You’re doing really well mate

[@iskindersam7834]

Everything single thing he did was wrong and a lie

[@rhyanandrews1979]

The production quality of your videos has had such an insane jump recently, I think I subscribed around 90-100k subs, I remember being a learner binge watching all of your how to drive videos, and now here I am, license in hand, yet I still always come back. I am proud of how far you and your channel have came since then. Keep it up :D

[@Grahamvfr]

A fantastic and well delivered video Richard, busting a few myths. Just Can't see it happening as early 2030, hopefully, bit like the optimistic autonomous car thing.. Remember them.

[@stevenwatson3963]

The "liars in the massive houses in London", are the problem

[@samixalam_]

I just want to continue driving a manual... Its the most fun way to drive in my opinion, and it's the only reason I'm pessimistic going forwards

[@lukesalvidge118]

I partially disagree, I only like manual systems when I don't have to use a clutch. Too much of a pain in the ass

[@2sik_UK]

@@lukesalvidge118 clutch is super easy though, its not a pain or difficult, especially if you've been doing it for 6+months

[@grizzlybear2702]

The people who complain about carbon emissions are also the same people against nuclear power

[@freedomlover2808]

The green boys are the worst.

[@gotworc]

Not really lol there are lots of people like myself that believe we need to cut down on our carbon emissions but we should definitely start building more nuclear fission plants as well as invest more money into nuclear fusion research. The issue is most people don't know jack shit about anything they're talking about

[@Gopnikawa]

@@gotworc “but muh Chernobyl and Fukushima” And of course, every other nuclear power plant in the world will face the same fate, because reasons.

[@roboko6618]

@@Gopnikawa to be honest, in our age I'm convinced we'd find our local nuclear scientist doing stupid tiktock dances on the internet during a reactor emergency, since there have been similar parallels occuring in society recently. It does not inspire confidence, we are not as bright a society as we were even 20 years ago IMO. We will run out of people bright enough to run these things safe, and the moral deterioration of society in general means corners will be cut. Lets not forget that the most recent nuclear power stations are built using Chinese money/'experts' ....

[@tcaudiobooks737]

"You are the carbon they want to reduce"

[@toshineon]

Unlike my dad, I don't hate electric cars lol. But I will say that the high price, even on the used market, is a big issue for many working class people. The kind of people that might currently drive an old Volkswagen Golf from the 90's. I can't see how they're supposed to go electric.

[@Netlogic.]

Don't forget about battery defects, currently if you buy a used electric car and you get a fault in the battery pack all manufacturers expect you to buy a new battery pack -> $$$$

[@TheSuperBoyProject]

@Johnston Wang consumerism is another thing. At the moment the expected lifespan of an EV, hybrid or not, is around 8-12 years or 200000 - 250000 miles due to battery degradation. I don't know about the UK but where I live around half the cars on the road are from the 2000s and older. What's going to happen when the switch happens?

[@AverageAlien]

@@TheSuperBoyProject battery cars are the oldest form of cars in existence. They are outdated pieces of shit. I can't believe we're going BACKWARDS. Wind powered ships and horrible, soulless, chinese, cheap, tacky toy cars

[@54356776]

We're not supposed to. That's the point.

[@RWoody1995]

Just because they're expensive now doesn't mean they'll always be, that's why the ban is set a decade into the future. A lot of the reason EVs are expensive right now is because the market is so tiny so the R&D costs and production line setup and running costs etc are a bigger percentage of the total cost of the car, an ICE currently can have a production line set up and spread the cost of that across millions of customers while an EV production line has to spread its setup and running cost across only a few tens of thousands. When all new cars are EV you'll see plenty of new EVs for half the price you're seeing at the moment.

[@phils2180]

The total ban of all petrol and diesel vehicles is decades away. I've never bought a new car in my life so I really couldn't give a toss about the 2030 ban on new sales.

[@oddities-whatnot]

Correct. People are getting depressed over nothing. I only buy used cars these days.

[@livebythesworddiebytheswor5969]

It’s not a ban on diesel or petrol cars.They are just not making anymore petrol or diesel cars after 2030. You can still drive a petrol of diesel car if you have one.It’s a load of rubbish anyway just to force people to by these electric cars.

[@thecraigmachine69]

The real solution is to reduce car dependency. That solves a lot of problems, less pollution, noise, deaths, expense (both personal and government), more space for greenery/housing, etc. etc. That’s the future I would rather see. But that will never happen, as much of our economies are built upon private car ownership.

[@codyjcaudill]

Yeah as someone who owns a Miata (the same car he has in this video) and enjoys driving, the absolute reliance on cars by nature of our infrastructure is not compatible with sustainability-even with electrics. It would be better for everyone and the planet if we had infrastructure that supported robust public transportation and alternative modes of travel.

[@azertycraftgaming]

It's cool to have a car, it's even better when you can choose to not use it.

[@iosifd2409]

In Spain , public transport is well connected , number of diesel cars reduced drastically , their solution rellies on LPG and CNG , nobody in UK looks at these , as LPG is way greener and way cheaper , but the profit for big companies speaks louder .

[@alexdavila1356]

why would I want to be forced to use public transportation and travel with questionable people?

[@MichaelFlatman]

@@alexdavila1356 why would i want to be forced to share a shop or restauarant with questionable people? humans are social creatures (hopefully).. if you want to be isolated all the time you're more than welcome to just stay at home..

[@ibs5080]

As someone who wants to keep their petrol car, I do wonder whether petrol / diesel stations will decline in numbers over the years and whether it will be neccassary to drive further to fill up.

[@ConquerDriving]

If the ban happens then I'm sure they will, but the decline will be slow and take a long time.

[@darkzim3872]

i think they will change to charging stations with quick chargers and a waiting room

[@tcaudiobooks737]

@@darkzim3872 Waiting room = sales of crisps and coffee will skyrocket. Sure they'll be fine with that.

[@darkzim3872]

@@tcaudiobooks737 oh I fully expect it will be a money pit along with paid WIFI access, snacks, drinks newspapers they could even change it to a small cafe they have a captive audience for a hour or more So I expect them to take advantage of it

[@pete2070]

It'll happen anyway as the idiots behind this electric car lunacy, close down the sources of petrol and diesel, to put to death the remaining hard-core drivers who love their I.C.E., cars!

[@minny6144]

Hi Richard! Just wanted to say thank you! I passed my test yesterday, took me about 60 hours of lessons and I thought I'd never manage to do it but your videos and advice have been so helpful, thank you for helping so many people, you deserve so much for doing this!

[@ConquerDriving]

That's fantastic news! Thank you for watching and congratulations on passing!

[@minny6144]

@Marc Caldwell DVSA says 20 hours of practice and 45 of driving lessons, I don't have my own car to practice in, so I needed 60 of lessons. What is the point of saying I shouldn't be on the road?

[@HumongousBob]

@Marc Caldwell don’t be a knob mate. No need to. I’ve also done 60hrs and got my test next month and so will many thousands of others because it’s hard to get a test now.

[@foppo100]

So you passed your test what now? More congestion on our already congested roads.You find out how much it is to run a car be shocked.

[@andysims4906]

If we only ever had electric cars and someone invented to internal combustion engine it would of been seen as a major breakthrough. Just think a car that could be filled up in 5 mins do 500 plus miles . And all the manufacturers and oil companies provided plenty of places to fill up. Just my thoughts

[@x66Hawk66x]

Very interesting video. I guess the best course of action would be to buy a petrol car just before the ban kicks in, then at least you can hold onto that car for another decade or so, giving Electric cars time to improve further and for prices to lower. my biggest worry will be the shape of the second hand car market as time goes on.

[@leifcian4288]

Unfortunately lithium supply's will be bottlenecked like this and it would probably be much better to focus incentives on making battery packs available for mid drive bicycle conversions. Many more bicycles converted to electric for the resources in one electric car, an old steel bike can be refurbished to handle 30/35mph pretty well and safely if there was a proportionate licence and maintenance regime to go with. You just don't need a whole car for every short to medium distance journey around built up areas, with no passengers or little to no luggage. Using your car for less journeys will save costs on maintenance and general wear and tear over time.

[@alg3n320]

or trains

[@leifcian4288]

@@alg3n320 And trains. For personal use over short to medium distance you can't do much better than a bike on balance for efficiency and agility around built up areas. With a mid drive motor and a battery on an old steel bicycle it's only around like a 35kg odd platform so exponentially more efficient than a 1 or 2 plus tonne car at velocities up to about 30mph, which is ALL you need for the vast majority of urban use cases. You don't make journeys any faster in the majority of instances by trying to push velocity harder than the environment can facilitate. Really you just make the majority of journeys slower for yourself and everyone else by decimating fluidity. You could have a battery pack charger near the home smart meter and then you also get the benefits of helping to support grid stability and having home power back up. Couple of decent and properly made E Bike battery packs would be much more accessible to so many more people economically if it wasn't for larger electric vehicles mopping up all lithium supply's and driving the price up a lot. Just buying a single 18650 battery for a flashlight or something became a lot more difficult all of a sudden a few years ago when all the electric vehicle stuff started to get pushed harder. Really there will not be any substitute for simply using cars less and there will always have use cases where ICE vehicles are a better more logistical choice. ICE has always been terrible and wasteful for built up areas but for longer distances there still much more logistical, also the largest vehicles due to the square cube law will still be better powered by combustion fuels for certain longer distances journeys. Its the smallest and more urban use case vehicles that are much better to be electric and that's the way its always been for over a hundred years really but the motor lobby pushed to have ICE vehicles accepted as everyone's general purpose day to day vehicles.

[@leifcian4288]

@@alg3n320 I hope you didn't mean battery powered trains anyway lol. If course trains shouldn't need no batteries to be electric therefore no issues around lithium supply and demand.

[@54356776]

This has nothing to do with the environment.

[@leifcian4288]

@@54356776 What I'm saying has plenty to do with the environment actually, although I didn't actually mention "the environment" until you have to comment being all passé contrarian like a right basic bruh.

[@barriedear5990]

Five chargers per pump in UK is a start, but a pump can service 100's of cars a day. Don't be too hung up about a large battery on a long trip. Size your battery on your daily mileage needs.

[@asprintablet]

Am I meant to have two cars? a city electric and a petrol for traveling out of the city? I live in Edinburgh and often if I am traveling out of the city I need at least 120 miles range and the electric version of my car claims it has a range of about 209 miles but all the reviews say they were lucky to get 160 miles predicted and what happens if I come across a diversion that increases my route, I then need to stop to find a charging point to be able to get home and hope it works once I get there.

[@barriedear5990]

@@asprintablet Charger anxiety is more of an issue than range anxiety. A lot of older single chargers are being replaced by banks of 4 or 6 faster chargers. Look at Harthill for example. It is really stopping being an issue. recently drove to Coventry in a 140 mile range car, just to see if it could be done, and it was very doable. No queues, no reliability issues. (Also Edinburgh resident EH4).

[@pier11francesco]

This right here Is why no one buys electric cars, Just reading this comment made me laugh loudly It's just complete insanity.

[@Dmxravin]

Using nuclear energy for hydrogen production takes the inefficiency and emissions issue out of the equation. Nuclear energy is very safe and clean.

[@RWoody1995]

you still need to generate twice as much energy even if you're using nuclear that's not great, you can supply all the power you need for all the BEVs in the world with half as many additional nuclear power plants as you need to generate all the hydroven needed if the same number of cars were FCEV, twice as many again if Hydrogen ICE.

[@Dmxravin]

@@RWoody1995 it will still be the only viable option going forward. ICE engines are only 30% efficient.

[@ajstevens1652]

@@RWoody1995 But you would need to produce 1/2 tonne batteries for every one of those vehicles, which will need to be replaced at some point in the car's useful life, at which point hydrogen becomes a more efficient solution.

[@RWoody1995]

@@Dmxravin hydrogen isn't much more efficient than ICE, there's losses in production and transportation and then only 60% efficient in the fuel cell. Battery EVs are 90% efficient from the power plant output to the turning of the wheels.

[@RWoody1995]

@@ajstevens1652 rarely. there are plenty of original nissan leafs still running strong on their original battery with 100-150k miles on the clock and that's one of the most (if not THE most) poorly thermally managed EV batteries on the market. There are even many original tesla model s with 95% of their original range after 10 years and 150k miles of driving. This idea that EV batteries will need to be replaced in less often is poorly thought out misconception that EV batteries and laptop/phone batteries are the same, they are not. Laptops and phones have no battery cooling. They regularly allow the battery to reach temperatures exceeding 40C, even maybe 60C+ and stay there for long periods while liquid cooled packs in BEVs never exceed 40C (they may purposefully heat them up to 40C during a rapid charging session as that lets them charge faster but they still won't exceed it and certainly will be cooled back down to 25C within minutes after the charge session completes). You also have the fact that phones and laptops are cycled almost daily or maybe even more often than that whereas the average motorist with a 200 mile ranged EV will only cycle the battery once every 20 days which already increases lifespan 20x. And for those who do drive high miles they'll still get 2k+ cycles out of their battery thanks to the thermal management and they'll get 400k miles out of the battery, most ICEVs are scrapped by 150-200k.

[@felawes]

My 20 year old Mercedes E Class Estate does 51mpg and typically manages 700 miles per tank. And I plan to drive it for another 90,000 miles to clock up 250,000 miles. And I bought it three years ago for £1,350. Oh - and I park it in Chelsea inside London's ULEZ, using my Freedom pass for the six months when I'm not living in France. Works nicely. If it gives up I'll buy a late model Porsche Panamera diesel. All of which amounts to a minimal carbon footprint compared to buying a new electric car.

[@lm971120]

Regarding manual EVs, would like to add that there’re quite a few of them in China, as some driving schools wants the low running cost/subsidy of EVs but also want to teach manual, and the manual is simulated. In addition some small electric trucks also have manual boxes as they need to make sure the right amount of torque is sent into the drivetrain at different speed to avoid damage/maximise efficiency

[@Brian-om2hh]

But why does an electric vehicle - which produces 100% torque from standstill - need a gearbox?

[@sqarefox3928]

@@Brian-om2hh For fun? Someone like me likes to shift gears

[@freedomlover2808]

Just in time from Klaus Schwab’s Great Reset.

[@2sik_UK]

1000%

[@coreofthespiral4757]

Been reading through the comments section to see how many are aware of what is really going on. Depressingly few. They still don't get it. People are brain-dead.

[@jannikmatthias9289]

It'll be a dark future if the majority of people comply. As it seems looking at this comment section we've already lost.

[@freedomlover2808]

@@jannikmatthias9289 Europeans being Europeans, unfortunately.

[@dixienormous2440]

''You will own nothing, and be happy''.

[@neilwilliams2907]

2:06 to 3.07 - 300,000 sounds great as you say, but just before that you showed a typical street where these would be used. People are going to drive home from work, plug in their car on the post outside their home and leave it there till they go to work the next morning. There might only be 1/5th of the fuel pumps, but each car only needs to be at one for 10 minutes once in a while then carry on their journey. Do you know the cost of the electric from these street posts? Will it be at home charging prices or more expensive like charging elsewhere at the moment?

[@ConquerDriving]

That's a good point. In this video I'm not saying it's good, bad, right or wrong. I'm just reporting my research.

[@neilwilliams2907]

@@ConquerDriving And report it very well you did too. I've just found your channel and will enjoy looking at your other videos.

[@EXSKIN]

And the cable cutting antics of the yoof of today just for laughs.

[@ibs5080]

I'm seriously considering buying another second hand car identical to my current 2009 model, in order to have a backup before they become extinct. Plus having two identical cars makes it easier for spare parts interchangeability plus familiarity with all the controls when switching from one car to the other.

[@ConquerDriving]

In my experience when cars are left to sit things start to go wrong. There are still at least 7 years of new petrol and diesel car sales.

[@ibs5080]

@@ConquerDriving Yes very true Richard. I guess it would be a case of alternating use between the two cars in order that they both get relatively frequent use. Interestingly, my Mum has a classic 1978 Mini Clubman owned from new...and it has now sat idle for about three years! I will have to charge up the battery or buy a new one. And I have to wonder how three year old petrol will fare, plus if any mechanicals have either rusted or seized. And now that winter is approaching, the Mini may stay unused for a while longer.

[@iandaniels8386]

going to do that get 2 motorbikes same model before ban comes in

[@paullamkin4062]

Interchangeable number plates too.

[@ibs5080]

@@paullamkin4062 Now Now!

[@jankubenka7476]

I don't think electric cars are greener than petrol/diesel... Those cars are able to run for 20 years with no major service, but electric cars and mainly it's batteries (about 8 years of lifespan, really high manufacturing costs due to use of rare metals) has really high service costs... The superior and low-cost solution is really the synthetic fuel :)

[@Ztallord]

I would like to point out one thing that i don't think most people now about and that is that there is also a hi amount of polution from tires and especially so from EV:s due to there weight and power. So banning ICE cars wont make the air better in the city it might make it worse. Not to mention that you also need raw oil to make the current lithium batteries so i can't se how EV:s are better for the environment.

[@Ca18detEnjoyer]

Oh shit I never even considered this that's like actually a seriously good point. I've usually been against saying ev's are good for the environment because by definition producing them is extremely bad for the environment so that statement is one I will never agree with but considering now that continuing to keep them going is bad too, even if you only look at the tire side of things and not the electrical systems, It just decreases the distance between how much ICE and ev cars effect the environment. Unfortunately however we are now at a point where most people are either all for ICE or only for ev so trying to bring up these types of issues are usually ineffective

[@Brian-om2hh]

HGV trucks have been wearing their tyres out on the roads for decades. Why is this suddenly an issue for you now?

[@Ca18detEnjoyer]

@@Brian-om2hh The whole point of the comment was to bring up that it will be more common with the increased weight of an ev and that's it... saying "why is it suddenly an issue for you now" just reeks of passive aggressive smugness

[@timsmith5339]

You are possibly right about tyre wear on EVs. I have had two and haven't noticed any difference but also haven't monitored it particularly. I have several friends with EVs too and they are in agreement with me, if there are studies that say EVs wear their tyres faster then we suppose they must, bit it isn't something we have noticed. What is a fact though is that tyre wear, though not good, is a tiny part of the polution coming out of fossil burning cars. Even if you don't count that ALL of the fuel you put into it comes out as polution, you also have waste oil, brake and clutch pad wear. If EVs do in fact wear their tyres faster, then they make up by having no clutch and only using one set of brake pads for the life of the car.

[@vincentbentley1079]

@@Brian-om2hh If 1.5 ton passenger carrying vehicle that typically conveys just one person consumes a set of four tyres every 30,000 miles. A 2.5 ton passenger carrying BEV that typically conveys the same consumes a set of tyres every 20,000 miles. The volume of airborne tyre particulate matter will increase considerably. As diesel HGV usually are on journeys carrying a full cargo load, there will be no increase to their annual tyre consumption. Also, the larger diameter the tyre, the longer it lasts. Passenger cars, even luxury SUVs with 22" alloys and low profile tyres only get around 25,000 miles from a set because they have a small rolling radius compared to a HGV tyre. Most HGV tyres are also recycled once or twice as remoulds further lessening the environmental impact of their use whereas passenger car remoulds have all but disappeared meaning every EV tyre will be brand new and every worn out one is someone else's problem.

[@momentomori5934]

Just like to say I passed first time a few days ago with 4 driving faults and only 28 hours of lessons, your videos helped me a lot 👍🏻

[@ConquerDriving]

That's fantastic news! Congratulations on passing!

[@itechtalk03]

I would not mind going electric, I personally only do city driving and very rarely do long distance. But the price of an EV is just way off the scale for me at the moment. Shame the government removed the incentives to buy an EV. Secondly if the cost of electricity would stay low or at a fair level then count me in. I would buy one. But these are my current issues and I’m sure I’m not the only one.

[@iskindersam7834]

It's all a scheme

[@nattywatty5711]

So the government want to install 300000 local charging points, when they could just make rail and buses more available and cheaper?

[@EhteshamShahzad]

Exactly

[@gotworc]

Do you think that would actually incetivize people to give up their cars? Nah no way people are way too stubborn even if public transportation in the entire world was amazing.

[@EhteshamShahzad]

@@gotworc thats because they have never been given good alternatives to driving. Just look at Netherlands.

[@Journey_to_who_knows]

They’re striking 90% of the year each year, not a chance

[@Brian-om2hh]

That wouldn't benefit me, as I live in a small rural village. There are just 3 buses per day. Morning, mid-day and late afternoon. None run at weekends. My wife works shifts on an alternating pattern. One week it's 5.30am start until 1.30pm. Then the following week it's 1.30pm start until 9.30pm. None of the buses running through our village would be any good to her.

[@christopherblade5984]

That street you walk down to town looks pretty clean to me. In regards to pollution I suggest people try living in Hanoi for a week. You can see the pollution there and many other places. I think UK is very clean.

[@winzfeld1]

UK breaches UN legal pollution levels on a daily basis. Air pollution here is linked to thousands of excess deaths a year. It’s not “Hanoi” levels of pollution but it’s far from clean

[@aalove1520]

Can you make a video about emf readings on EVs??? Please ! Your reviews are the only one i see reliable on youtube..thank you!

[@W1CKED__]

biofuels like the ones Porsche are developing seem like a good middle ground.

[@HR15DE]

no, they will be very expensive people are complaining with these fuel prices, people wont buy synth fuel will be used only by rich people enjoy the sounds of their sports cars thats it used car prices will skyrocket in ice ban countries

[@Brian-om2hh]

Forget it. They will never be able to produce enough to make it viable. They haven't even built a production plant yet. The figures I saw quoted showed they might (might) be able to produce 500 million litres per year. The World gets through more than that in a single day...... And then there's the cost. You can actually buy Aspen synthetic petrol now. The cost? Around £25 to £30 a gallon......

[@RJE48]

Thank goodness the word is spreading in regards to battery storage around the grid. Thank you!

[@iskindersam7834]

Sorry but I don't think you know how battery's work. It's not like a fuel tank that holds whatever about its inside 100%. Battery cells don't hold energy 100% but over gradual time it loses energy. Just like when you get a flat battery cuz you ain't driven it awhile. Tires can't hold air permanently hence every so often you got to pump them back up. Battery are the same. Everything single thing he did was wrong or a lie.

[@rufusgreenleaf2466]

I can't be certain what will happen for vehicles in ten years time but i just hope it becomes easy for everyone. I have fear of waiting in a huge tiresome queue just to charge my car up when filling with petrol just takes a few mins in and out. All the street charging points will be taken and the charging stations will be packed. People will leave theirs on charge after it's done hogging a space for no reason. You'll come home from work and the street outside your home will be filled with random people who don't even live there they just want to charge their car so you'll have to park three streets away. It is a worry, i just hope it can be solved. Also how batteries work in Winter is another worry but the biggest worry for me is supply and demand.

[@EXSKIN]

And feral youth cutting cables for a laugh welcome to the EV world. as happens now with railway cable thefts

[@stevied6965]

You’ll prob not be working or driving by that time so don’t worry about it.

[@rufusgreenleaf2466]

@@stevied6965 Why won't i be working or driving?

[@zzhughesd]

Richard, thanks , grey area this ban. 2030 / 2035 thing. At moment Truss’s wrecking ball is main agenda. To us Petrol lovers this is just a massive kick in teeth get back to being really angry about once economy starts recovering. And we know where we are

[@zzhughesd]

@@markyboy9332 WEP'll be the one

[@Journey_to_who_knows]

They want to force all the poor into public transport where you can only go where they want you to, welcome to the future

[@Betty_Feltersnatch]

"The government predicts around 30,000 charging points by 2030." No matter who's in power in the UK, the government couldn't predict a wet pavement in a downpour. Their predictions are worthless.

[@joebuden904]

Okay so, then how are you going to get all commuters to transition with the huge mounting costs to a vehicle class that has proven to have its own many disadvantages. Driving will be for the rich as will everything

[@ConquerDriving]

I hope driving doesn't become only for the rich. That doesn't sound like a nice future.

[@hamsterama]

No problem, Klaus Schwab and Bill Gates have a solution for that. You will eat bugs, live in the pod, wear a facemask, get the vaccine, have no privacy, and you will like it.

[@RWoody1995]

EV prices are falling every year, just a few years ago you needed to spend 50k for an EV which could easily do over 200 miles on a charge and now it's possible for less than 30k. still not cheap but add another 8-13 years of advancement and a rapidly growing market share and that'll easily drop below 20k imo (price of a VW golf, not a car only for the rich). Add another 10-20 years (because all those ICEVs built up to 2030-2035 won't just disappear overnight) and i'm sure we'll be at the point like we are now where 1-2k will get you a decent EV with plenty of lifespan remaining.

[@lm971120]

As a young person who likes cars (always did and can't lie about feelings, but also like buses and trains) and cares about environment (I try to cycle/use public transport as much as possible, despite I do enjoy occasional B Road runs), I do find buying cars to be a dilemma ATM. EVs at the moment generally felt too expensive for what they are (ie. ask 'if it's not an EV would I accept this price'?) and feels very 'mass-produced'. The used prices are very high and are unlikely to go down as demand far out-strip the supply, and new ones difficult to get even you can afford (was quoted 50 weeks lead time from VW). To me I feel to make EVs more engaging to drive will be more than merely imitating an ICE manual, but perhaps some other dimensions that was previously overlooked/not possible, yet are also useful. Since you've mentioned gen1 Insight, I drive a manual CR-Z (very good manual on a hybrid surprisingly) and can't find an exact replacement/upgrade (used MX5 and Giulia (only ZF8 tho) both look tempting, or even S2000 or VX220 - but would I buy them knowing I could've done better emission wise?) I do think it's possible to make engaging/fun EVs, just now the focus of manufactures isn't on that, but huge range (instead of efficiency), high power charging and crazy 0-60 times (not really fun IMO). In regard to emission, I feel the focus should've, and will become more on how the vehicle is used, rather than just what kind of vehicle it is and propose a one-fit-in-all 'solution'.

[@jessejames1827]

Very well said.

[@lobstepgaming249]

If they can make electric / hybrid cars affordable in 8 years I’m all for it!

[@AverageAlien]

No, fuck off. I will drive whatever I want to drive. The tyrant state will not tell me what I can and can't do. Electric cars are for pussies. They are soulless, bent, restrictive pieces of crap. They will never replace ICE cars. They will never compete. I don't want to drive some horrible, boring, quiet, plastic, chinese, killswitch having, government remote controlled toy.

[@thatslegit]

i highly doubt it useless the whole world suffers a great depression

[@Brian-om2hh]

Why wait 8 years? I've seen used EV's on sale at £6k........

[@cannaroe1213]

Great video, and I love that you plugged synthetic fuels, but I would have appreciated a nod towards the other benefit of biodiesel/LPG, which is that if produced from agricultural feedstock, waste cooking oil, algal reactors etc, then it's the only fuel that has a negative CO2 emission as it's getting it's carbon from the atmosphere to begin with.

[@ConquerDriving]

The trouble with synthetic fuels is efficiency, it takes a lot of green electricity, many more times per mile driven than charging a battery.

[@cannaroe1213]

​@@ConquerDriving Ah, that's a good point, if the source is the sun and the air then that's one thing, but if theres money to be made using high power lights, pumps, fans, whatever, then you're right, we might as well burn the coal directly :P

[@heliboyah64]

I wonder if anyone had thought about the environmental costs of all these docking stations all up and down these streets, all that extra plastic and wiring, trip hazards how is this more environmentally friendly?????. How about starting with all psv vehicles and hgv's. How about stopping diesel vehicles and see how that goes before a complete carpet ban on new vehicles???!!!!. Will common sense prevail????

[@iskindersam7834]

Well said

[@lm971120]

Well done, Richard! I'd say this video's probably better than any coverages (and the most factually accurate) on the issue from mainstream media I'm seen, yet you managed to make it so easy to understand (as someone who drove EVs on long trips for 2 years).

[@iskindersam7834]

Ha ha ha you sound sponsored but humour me for 1 sec and tell me which bits he got right. Guarantee you can't think of one.

[@kawsara5366]

From supercars to JMD to muscle the whole car community can agree that this is a sickening tragedy

[@timsmith5339]

A tragedy is the number of people with respiratory problems due to the pollution that they can't get away from. The word sickening is actually very apt.

[@oddities-whatnot]

@@timsmith5339 correct. Too many people stuck in the past. Im 55 and been driving since 1986 but even I will be glad when engines disappear. Change happens, thats the way evolution works. Nothing stays the same. Future cars will be virtually maintenance free, with far less to go wrong. Petrol and diesel engines are so old fashioned now. Basically the same principle to power cars thats existed for many decades. Obviously a modern engine is going to be more efficient than something from the 1950s but they are so complex, expensive to fix, plenty things can fail within the engine and transmission systems. Electric cars are far simpler by comparison and when we get the new solid state batteries, a lot of problems will be solved overnight. The only downside I can see is public charging stations may become expensive in order to get the most revenue possible if less ICE cars on the roads, so it will be the same common sense approach. Get an EV that has a very long range, same as getting a petrol car etc that can achieve high MPG.

[@timsmith5339]

@@oddities-whatnot You make a good point about the complexity of ICE cars. They are getting more and more complex in their attempt to get cleaner. Nine speed DSG gearbox? Variable valve timing? Exhaust recirculation? Turbos on everything? When I started motoring (a few years before you I'm thinking as I'm just turned 63), you could get anywhere in an engine bay you needed (actually get in with some cars eg. Triumph Herald). Today? Well, I guarantee you won't be ably to see the floor if you lift the bonnet!

[@AppleUK2000]

Good video. I refuse to buy an electric car. Until it is the same price, has the same mileage, can be recharged in the same time it takes to refill a petrol car; I will continue to buy ICE cars

[@Brian-om2hh]

Then your wait is over! New MG4 £26k New mid spec petrol Astra, Focus or Golf £27k.......... Just charge on cheap rate while you sleep. You *have* to sleep, so it's the best time to charge. It's also around 8 or 9 times cheaper than buying petrol.

[@EXSKIN]

@@Brian-om2hh Not the same time as refilling an ICE is it if you have to do it over night . petrol station 5 minute fill up back home sleep cars full when I get up

[@georgesbv1]

Huge difference between fuel pumps and public charging. One needs to be mostly on the road and you're done in 5 minutes. The charging takes hours and you cannot just stay there for it to end. On the charger side people will also tend to keep the car as much charged as possible (for the last 20% the charging power decreases), also a lot of overstaying after charging complete.

[@clivepierce1816]

A well thought out piece. On a personal note, there seems to be a growing polarisation between those who already drive EVs and are familiar with complementary tech such as ToU energy tariffs, solar PV, domestic batteries and heat pumps, and those who, through no fault of their own, have not been exposed to, or cannot afford to invest in these technologies. We run our EV and house for just several hundred pounds a year, using a combination of solar PV, domestic battery storage and an air source heat pump. Okay, there was a significant upfront investment, but at recent energy prices, the payback time is less than five years and the savings amount to thousands of pounds each year. Our EV is a cheap, secondhand Nissan Leaf which, contrary to all the criticism, has been entirely reliable on short and long journeys alike, and is ridiculously cheap to maintain and run - over the past two years it has cost us an average of 1.5 pence per mile.

[@iskindersam7834]

Clive you are wrong. It's not well put

[@turkeyssr]

Great video with a different perspective. You left out one very LARGE point. What amp service does the typical UK home have? In the US you need at least 200 amp service for 1 EV. (The US has 220v to the house and I assume the UK does too) In other words, how will all of the homes be upgraded and lines TO the home upgraded and who is going to pay for that? My home built in 2016 has 200 amp service. Most older homes do not.

[@moonbaby6134]

I live in a house that is 400 yrs old. The electrical infrastructure is around 50 yrs old and it’s not just me. About 40% of the houses around are in the same position. It’s,as Gunny Highway said, a clusterfuck. !

[@StupStups]

Typical average domestic supply is 60 or 100 amp, and we're 240v in the UK. A 7kW charger draws 32 amps. You've identified the main issue for the electricity network, it's not the overall demand on the grid but feeding the power to individual houses or on-street chargers. Major work needed on the low-voltage network all over the country. And every other country following this policy!

[@kapilbusawah7169]

As a car enthusiast, I rally behind cyclist and public transport because it means less congestion on the road which means less traffic and a better experience of being a driver 😊

[@unamed_user902]

hahahah

[@jasongoulden2938]

Speak for yourself On yer bike then lol

[@martinliu5480]

Well, not really. You’ll end up being stuck behind a cyclist because there would be more on the road. I mean, look at Vietnam on their mopeds. They are all over the road.

[@EXSKIN]

As a car enthusiast, your not really are you, you're just a bus wanker lol

[@DanM321]

I think in theory it's a good idea but the batteries is the main problem, if you look at a graph how much CO2 an electric makes compared to a petrol the electric starts off higher due to mining for the the lithium and etc, average batterys will take more damage over time eg if ur towing or going fast? So they will need to be replaced and that is pricey, I think an eco fuel is the way

[@nothingmuch.3014]

The majority of people do not drive an EV far enough, to offset the additional pollution caused in the production of that vehicle. And we still can't efficiently recycle lithium batteries on a large scale.

[@DanM321]

@@nothingmuch.3014 Yeah, I see the problems, I do understand why we are choosing electric but why can't we just use eco fuels ? Like we already have the eingines so why mine for batteries it doesn't make sense?

[@leo_warren]

@@DanM321 The current issue with eco fuels is that we need to actively make them out of CO2 to be neutral, otherwise we are just releasing more CO2.

[@scottcolpitts8521]

@@leo_warren I think the point is to use the co2 in the atmosphere using renewable energy for the process. Thus making it carbon neutral. Still very expensive at this point in time.

[@ajstevens1652]

@@DanM321 It's just a matter of scale. Eco fuels would be more environmentally beneficial than Battery Electric vehicles, however Eco fuels have not been produced in sufficient scale yet. That day however, will likely come.

[@iskindersam7834]

You are very dence to even suggest that electricity will be cheaper than fuel considering how everybody will be struggling to pay this winters electricity bills and now you expect us to charge the car. You sir are of your rockers!

[@Clarityinlife335]

So i think, new electric cars should have a option of range extender version. A car that can be 100% charged at home and then i can use that range extender (silent pure sine wave inverter generator that charges vehicle while running) on highways long routes that can only be switched on when battery goes below 80%. It will not give me unlimited range, but can extend my actual range by 1.5 times to 2 times depending on various conditions, so that i have to take less stops for charging.

[@Jer0nim0]

2:22 "The government predict............." That's OK then. For a moment there I thought it would never happen. 🤣

[@Ca18detEnjoyer]

Came to comment that, Being south african I can never trust a large organization that use the word "predict" in almost all their sentences.

[@lezhu6856]

With regards to hydrogen, it can be cheap and plentiful if you make it out of fossil fuels (Steam Reformation, accounting for 95% of H production). That's why oil companies like Shell are pushing hydrogen so much. I like hydrogen cars somewhat; the Hyundai N Vision looks sick. But hydrogen cars will never be as environmentally sustainable as battery electric.

[@ConquerDriving]

I don't know the CO2 output of a car fuelled by hydrogen which is sourced from natural gas. Would be interesting to know.

[@hugohabicht6274]

@@ConquerDriving absolutely none. If a car is using pure hydrogen, this hydrogen 2(h2) will react with oxygen (o2), which results in 2(H2O), which is pure water

[@TheJoaoSM]

he means considering the CO2 output from the natural gas used to refine the Hydrogen

[@maalikserebryakov]

@@hugohabicht6274 thats still producing hydrogen

[@leo_warren]

@Le Zhu The difference between battery and hydrogen fuel cell may converge in the future as batteries require lithium and cobalt, both of which are finite, compared to a hydrogen store, which with the correct design and materials will outperform a battery as the surface area: volume rapidly decreases. The issue still remains to find the correct materials to store hydrogen.

[@dikshant899]

I love manual cars 😍

[@Tensquaremetreworkshop]

A gearbox is a poor fix for a design flaw- the atrocious power curve of an IC engine. In a BEV they are non-existent, not automatic.

[@sqarefox3928]

@@Tensquaremetreworkshop But manual is fun. Automatic is boring (I guess DSG in manual mode is somewhat OK) and no gearbox is even more boring

[@Tensquaremetreworkshop]

@@sqarefox3928 It is transport. If you wish to engage in pointless activity for fun, can I suggest a computer game?

[@sqarefox3928]

@@Tensquaremetreworkshop Jesus christ computer games lmao. Some people love shifting gears just like some like playing football. It's the same. You wouldn't tell basketball player to go play bowling instead. There are people who consider cars more than A to B means of transport. Those are car enthusiasts - so you are saying that all of those people should rather sit behind a pc lmao ok sure

[@Tensquaremetreworkshop]

@@sqarefox3928 I repeat- gearboxes were a ( poor) workaround for a major failing in IC engines for road transport. EVs do not have this problem. I am sure there were cries of woe when the buggy whip was rendered pointless too. Do you want the advance/retard lever brought back? The choke control? Don’t live in the past…

[@TheOffertonhatter]

Very interesting video. One thing as a DEA that I know of, is that although we are using less electric than 2002, and would cover electric cars, the legislation about home heating is that gas boilers will be be banned from 2025 for new builds (that could change) and a switch to ground source and air source heat pumps, which demand a lot of electricity to run. So we could be back to square one and the grid will not be able to provide enough electricity for heating homes and transport. Would be interesting what the national grid think of this.

[@johnkeepin7527]

The National Grid end of the system may be alright, but the local District Network Operators (DNOs) are quite likely to be more problematic. E.g. the rating of buried distribution cables, local transformers etc might have to be altered, or else more remote control to optimise demand and so on could emerge.

[@mrpotz2479]

it's not even off street parking, think of Student houses, or general HMOs where you've got multiple people in 1 house. I'm in a HMO, and while I can park by the house, I can't charge there unless I run an extention chord out the window

[@sphenesounds]

Carbon tax is a tax on you, a carbon based lifeform. "you will own nothing, and you will be happy" - The World Economic Forum

[@stuartevans6807]

I honestly think you wont be able to buy a non ev by 2035. Not because of the ban but because the manufacturers wont be able to sell enough to keep the production lines going. The technology is there now, price parity is around the corner and if you consider total cost of ownership why pay more for ice?

[@HyunAOP]

electric cars eh

[@steve5825]

They ban petrol and diesel without any thought on how we get around this as they don’t care, not the governments problem, just ban them. Plus the unemployment it will cause.

[@knightime14]

Thanks for the video!! Can I offer a small tip for your audio quaility. Use a compressor. It will normalise the highs and lows and take away some of the harshness at the top of the volume range. It will make a huge difference.

[@shahvezkhan8598]

this goverment needs to get its priorities in order, dont care if they ban i aint ever leaving petrol and diesels

[@mhoward181]

uk population is 67 million. 0.5% = 335,000. You carnt complete with spending a few min to fuel up at A petrol station

[@Brian-om2hh]

Petrol stations can't compete with the convenience of filling up at home while you sleep, for around 80% less cost than buying petrol...... You *have* to sleep, so it's the best time to charge.

[@mhoward181]

@@Brian-om2hh unfortunately you are giving up a lot of control for not much gain. Also I wonder how enthusiastic you would be if it was ur kids being sent down a mine to get the cobolt.

[@EXSKIN]

@@Brian-om2hh Yes they can the open 24/7 takes 5 mins,

[@pauldavies198]

Points about managing use of electricity from national grid particularly interesting, also about second hand car prices - you can imagine if high end ICE cars suddenly are unavailable new the price of nearly new will skyrocket - drive a high end new petrol Porsche off the forecourt on Dec 31st 2029 and on 1st Jan 2030 it might be worth 1/3 more

[@Avelx]

Also its worth mentioning the towing of large caravans for example really reduces the range massively and performs much worse than traditional turbo diesel

[@wolvoman1]

And when those pop up charging points pop up along the street, where do the residents who used to park at that spot, now park ?

[@thrupnybit]

Interesting experiment. My style tends to be to accelerate quickly through the gears at middling revs (three to four thousand RPM) to the posted limit. I reset the average MPG at each oil change and to quick mental calculation at fuel refills. When the car was new, i.e. the first year, I was averaging 42mpg (US) well above EPA fuel economy estimates. Now the car is over three years old that overall average has fallen to about 40.6mpg. I do go to the redline on rare occasions.

[@Aatish2k8]

And what about us in high rise apartments? We're screwed if we get a flat battery and need to go to work or emergencies. Even if they install 1 or 2, it won't be enough.

[@srspower]

4:10 that's a great example. You should have done the same with petrol/diesel. A lot of people say things like 'a EV uses power made form fossil fuels anyway' and yes lets assume your EV's electricity ALL comes from natural gas/coal power stations. It is STILL at least 50% more efficient in terms of getting that energy from the power station to the wheels compared to petrol/diesel.

[@iskindersam7834]

Show me your source cuz in calling bs

[@jonnyvt6602]

Thanks for this, answered a few of the questions I had, n proved me wrong in some of my misconceptions

[@petea7323]

We will 6-12 times the number of charging stations than fuel pumps as it takes this much longer to recharge than refuel.

[@Brian-om2hh]

You also need to balance that against the fact that it costs around 8 times less to charge a car at home than it does paying for petrol. And if you charge at home while you sleep, it has zero effect on your life. You have to sleep anyway, so it's the best time to charge. It's also the cheapest.....

[@EXSKIN]

@@Brian-om2hh If your're on Octopus go other than that its not, and you think every one can charge at home.

[@criscross572]

How do i keep a couple of cans of electricity in the garage for emergencies, government is already warning of black outs this winter, the US already telling people not to change their cars its a con

[@Brian-om2hh]

If you bothered to read what the National Grid are proposing, you'd see they plan power outages during peak periods, from 4pm to 7pm. Most EV charging takes place after 11pm, when cheaper off-peak charging rates kick in. So any planned outages are unlikely to affect EV owners.

[@EXSKIN]

@@Brian-om2hh Burn Coal there wouldn't be outages ohh so I'm a EV owning cock these outages won't effect me sod the rest of you.

[@ThrottleBody]

What people haven’t thought about is if the majority of people switch to electricity, the electricity prices will inevitably go up even more than they are set to. Suddenly there will be no ‘off-peak’ time to charge at home. Does our national grid even have the power reserves for us all to charge at once?

[@Brian-om2hh]

Yes. In fact so confident are the National Grid, they were among the organisations who lobbied the government to bring the ban on the sale of new ICE cars and vans *forward* to 2030 from 2035. The NG anticipate around 9 million EV's on Britain's roads by 2030. And what you don't appear to have thought about is the fact that as more of us switch to EV's, then less petrol and diesel will need to be refined. The UK's oil refineries already use around 6 to 8kw of electricity to refine the 14 million gallons of petrol and 11 million gallons of diesel they produce each day. If that was back in the grid as spare capacity, it would be sufficient to charge around 4 million EV's each day....

[@ThrottleBody]

@@Brian-om2hh perhaps, but people will continue to buy EVs beyond 2030, so there will be a whole lot more EVs on the road in the decades to come. That’s why for me, EVs can’t be the only answer. Synthetic fuels may be needed to supplement this because no matter how good the technology gets, there will be a demographic that EVs will never suit.

[@soundseeker63]

The comparison with electricity consumption now vs 2002 was interesting. I really wouldn't have thought it would have gone down that much even with all the improvements in appliance efficiency and insulation etc. I'm also surprised National Grid say if everyone went electric it would "only" add 10% to demand. I would have expected it would be more. That said, I get the impression our generation capacity is also less than in 2002 and the system runs on much slimmer margins then it once did. There is also the question of the mining of precious metals for the battery packs, is there enough to go round post 2030? Are all the mining processes safe, ethical and environmentally responsible? Is the recycling system ready to cope with the huge influx of battery packs that are soon to head their way? There's a lot of unaswered questions still, but I found the video to be well presented, unbiased and informative. Good job.

[@keithnorman3519]

It’s all lies as the electric suppliers are toeing the government line.

[@EXSKIN]

Yes because they've shut down the coal fired power stations, dash for gas was the solgan, that's even bad now.

[@MARTINA-gc3tq]

Can you imagine the power cuts at night when everyone plugs in their electric cars? I’m sure solar panels don’t work well at night and wind only blows at the right speed half of the year.

[@Brian-om2hh]

Er, won't happen. It seems you don't understand that most EV owners have off-peak charging tariffs, which offer much cheaper rates during the night hours. These usually begin at 11pm or later, and allow you 4 or 5 hours at a around a quarter of the cost of the daytime rate. If you read and understand what the National Grid are proposing, you'll see that any power outages will take place from 4pm up until 7pm, which is the peak period. Therefore EV charging during the night hours, when demand is at it's lowest, will not be affected......

[@MARTINA-gc3tq]

@@Brian-om2hh you really shouldn’t drink on an empty head.

[@joelhunter1199]

The one critical issue you missed, is in order to get a BEV “carbon neutral”, you have tow it for 12 years.

[@adamlangwell1963]

Great video, I’m going to show this to everyone who try’s telling me hydrogen is the future and electric cars won’t ever take off because they take too long to charge and they’re charged up using coal.

[@nevetsks]

What is overlooked is that public charging attracts VAT at 20% currently, whilst home charging is 5%. That paradigm needs to shift.

[@alibro7512]

Thanks for a brilliant video, balanced, fair and clear.

[@robertgregory8964]

People need to be aware that certain fuels may start to become scarce before the ban comes into effect. In remote parts of Australia, fuel stations are no longer supplying LPG due to lack of demand. This is causing the remaining LPG drivers to drive much further for a fill. Also, lower volumes will increase fuel costs at the pump due to supply overheads remaining the same, i.e. fixed costs the same in order to supply a dwindling amount.

[@dansrandomvideos2515]

I never understood why LPG didn't take off. A relative of mine has had 2 LPG cars now.

[@Brian-om2hh]

LPG filing points are closing down in the UK too, for the same reason......

[@EXSKIN]

But your Goverment is happy to supply the black stuff to China

[@vincentbentley1079]

@@Brian-om2hh As someone that has been driving on LPG for 22 years I reckon it's the other way around. LPG refuelling stations have to replace their infrastructure every 10 years or so. Some have decided that the ban will mean fewer ICE vehicles so their ROI will be later or never. LPG stations are disappearing because the companies don't want the financial risk when it comes to equipment renewal. With fewer LPG refuelling stations, those with LPG cars are spending more money driving out of their way to refuel which in turn makes it less economical. Interestingly, the government has not banned LPG only vehicles. However, the one remaining company that produced Liquid Injection LPG systems went bust this year and the company that acquired their intellectual property has deliberately taken it off the market, presumably so BEV doesn't have any competition.

[@TriToGame]

What perplexes me is the rush to phase out functional cars on the road. The biggest chunk of carbon throughout the lifetime of new vehicles is from production. For electric cars this is approximately 45-50%. When passing my test this year and looking to buy a car, tax was the deciding factor. Many old cars on the market I would have been happy to purchase with low milage cost hundreds of pounds to tax. This prices old cars out of the budget market leading to their scrappage because who's going to pay £200+ a year to tax a £500 car? Thats a carbon investment prematurely removed from use meaning a new carbon investment is required to replace its space on the road.

[@Dudeshootsdove]

I’m not getting on board and I’m encouraging people to disobey this fast transition in favour of a much more gradual change. Geopolitical tensions are not being factored into the mix either. Oil based countries will be more powerful and productive than us🤷🏽‍♂️

[@krzysztoftryka399]

I buy used cars. 13 years old on average. Diesel. My 2005 VW Golf GT 138 BHP (Milage: 153,000) has cost me circa £1400 in December 2018. Over last almost 4 years it has cost me another £1500 in parts & labour (major: cam belt, ABS pump - MOT costs included). My average yearly milage: 7000 miles. Average fuel consumption: 50 mpg. 504 liters/year. 42 liters/month. Till March 2022, diesel price was £1.35 on average (Dec 2018 - Feb 2022). So the cost of driving my car between Dec 2018 - Dec 2022 is: 38 x 42 x £1.35 + 10 x 42 x £1.89 = £2,155 + £794 = circa £2,950. So the total (estimated) cost of buying, fixing and fueling my car over 4 years is: £5,850. Assuming £1.89/l for diesel from now on - another 6 years of fueling my car would cost: £5,715. Potential major repairs over this time (gearbox, clutch): £1,700 (parts and labour) total. Potential minor repairs (estimated): £1,200. Road tax over 10 years: £1,800. So, (almost) worst case scenario - total (average) costs for 10 years: circa £16,265. £1,626.50 a year. £135.50 / MONTH. Which includes theoretical future repairs and fuel. Car's life span (estimated): 23 years. In comparison: Cheapest 1 YO EV on quick search: Smart Fortwo Coupe 60kW EQ Exclusive 17kWh 2dr Auto [22kWCh] Range: 80 miles Deposit: £1,400 60 months finance: £323 / Month = £19,380 Final payment: £6,035 Total cost of buying the car (over 5 years): £26,850 Running costs over 10 years (if the battery would last that long): KWh price for calculation: £0.34 Running cost / mile: £0.0722 Yearly milage limit: 7000 miles Total cost of running it over 10 years (at £0.34 / KWh): £5,054. TOTAL cost over 10 years: £31,904 Average monthly cost over 10 YEARS (including charging): circa £265 / MONTH - instalation of home charging point has not been counted in though. So this EV is, overall, twice as expensive as my current car. In 10 years (at the latest) the battery will be dead. Cost of replacing it most likely will exceed the value of the car. Meaning - one will have to buy a new car. Over time, the range will drop. 60 miles - maybe. I think rather 50. These are the numbers - make of it what you will.

Did you count how much you have to drive with an electric vehicle if the battery manufacturing produces 10-15 tons of CO2e compared to a

[@logicalluke]

One thing you didn't mention is electric vehicle retrofits/ petrol car conversions to electric. Do you think this is something that will take off in a big way? Is it economically viable? Or not worth the hassle?

[@ConquerDriving]

I think there will be more retrofits but I don't think it would be a significant segment of the market. Mostly for enthusiasts.

[@ghunt9146]

​@@ConquerDriving some classic cars are being converted but it costs more than most of them are worth& the range is 100 miles max. Not viable in my opinion.

[@SimonAmazingClarke]

An excellent and well balanced video. There are a few thing that I think are worth mentioning. It's not just the UK that is banning ICE cars but most of Europe and parts of America. Other parts of the world will follow suit. As well as cars this ban will affect Lorries and Busses, not sure of the timings on those. Additional in 2030 diesel trains, new ones, will no longer be allowed.