Conqueror's Blade - Imperial Javelineers - High Damage, Low Ammo?

[@clash2392]

I’ve been watching a lot of your videos because of those ads, found you yesterday and watched a lot of videos. This is a great channel, good job. If I had a good pc I would download this game, but I have a rubbish pc.

[@EvoLozGaming]

Glad to hear your enjoying the videos :) ah that sucks you cant run the game :(

[@clash2392]

I think I’m a month I’m getting a better pc which I think meets the requirements for this game, can’t wait to play it.

[@iforgoynae9690]

@@clash2392 its a good game , im playing beacuse of the adds

[@Mark101dg]

I feel like - to make the most of these imperial javs - it is important to own the hybrid nature of the unit. Going all top for the daze makes him decent at dazing units and heroes, which is actually great for defense. They can't hit you when they are constantly dazed. For my battle flow, the trick is to first dump your first volley into a group of units or the face of a hero, and then engage in melee if you have the upper hand. In most 1 v 1 situations, that will be the case because the javelins wiped half the unit (or the hero). When in the thick of melee fighting you can just hit 1 and the second jav volley will wipe the rest. I sometimes play an entire game with just this unit that way, getting 100+ unit kills and 5+ hero kills. I also find that the map and positioning is very important with this unit. They are quite poor in large open spaces because enemies can walk out of your volleys. Put them on a narrow staircase, on a supply point, in a narrow street, or waiting at the top of a siege engine though and the highly clustered enemies mostly just eat your javelins and die. If I wanted full melee I would take a melee infantry unit. If I wanted to stay ranged I would take javelin sergeants or muskets. Another great use of this unit is that inexperienced players will underestimate them, get too close and become easy kills, and experienced players will be wary and not engage unless they think they can pull it off. I keep these guys around on my dual blades a lot, and enemy heroes will think twice before getting close. Allows you to be more aggressive with the hero. The main weakness I feel is that these guys are not so great against shields. I avoid those engagements at the moment. Currently leveling toward the block break on the unit tree, and I got the epic jav doctrine to try once they fix that. Perhaps that will change things (a bit). Just my experiences so far, just having elited the unit.

[@EvoLozGaming]

A great write up! Its a good point about their hybrid nature and something that I certainly struggle with (and is reflected in the video). This is probobly in part why I tend to prefer the jav sgts as they suck in melee so allow me to just focus on the range element. Glad to hear you're getting on really well with them though :-D

[@Mark101dg]

@@EvoLozGaming Thanks! I didn't think you really struggled with the unit to be honest, as much as that the sergeants are just better for your play style. You can handle the melee perfectly fine with your tanky dude, so having multiple ranged volleys to back you up is hugely beneficial. Thanks for the great video!

[@hi3988]

that flying damage numbers are so satisfying :D

[@EvoLozGaming]

:-D

[@king.kthebest6158]

I just unlocked the guys and I'm already loving them, it's so satisfying

[@EvoLozGaming]

They are a very fun unit :)

[@king.kthebest6158]

@@EvoLozGaming thanks for the vids, they are really helpful.

[@millsy4606]

could you revisit men at arms

[@EvoLozGaming]

They are very much in my list as a unit to revisit. I just need to spend some time to get them levelled

[@jaricoecke4985]

You should make a tier list off al the units. I think it would help a lot of people. Great video's you make keep up the good work!

[@EvoLozGaming]

That would make for a good video, I guess I do slightly feel that I need to unlock a wider selection of units first though :)

[@jaricoecke4985]

@@EvoLozGaming Well I'll be happily waiting for it ;)

[@williamhowes8967]

Great vid evo and I def like the javelin sergs because of block break and I loved you stream

[@EvoLozGaming]

Yeah they are a really nice unit. I love it when you get the hero one shot with the javs so fun :-D

[@minedoimperija]

When Johny comes marching home rhytm at the start, coincidence?! I think not

[@Hary0n]

Great Evo! I couldn't find you on NW discord anymore, did you drop it for now? I had a cool blast, when turned this video on and found myself out watching and ad with you! Congrats.

[@EvoLozGaming]

Yeah should still be on the NW discord, shame about the delay but still super hyped for the game :) Haha yeah the conqueror's blade devs seems to be really pushing my ads which is super cool :D

[@emresar6364]

This unit used to have "charge" attack were snipping ability. You could throw two volleys of javelin first then you can charge them to the enemy which was pretty effective. In supply defense they were really good with permanent ammo. If there was someone to reach and kill them melee just charge and see what happens. I got really milked with this guys in beginning of the game nearby 7-8 months ago. :)

[@EvoLozGaming]

Didn't actually know they used to have a charge ability, thats pretty cool! Guess it would make the unit even more powerful :)

[@emresar6364]

@@EvoLozGaming Before the great UI changes and other overhaul before season 1, they had charge yes. Usually enemy thinks Javelin's job done when their ammo is empty, they were came and when they see charge i don't know what kind of shock is it? :D When i get bankrupt i still use some 2-3 star units roster like Pike Militia, Javelin Militia, Prefecture Archers etc. Javelin Militia has charge ability, still does good job.

[@istvanpalanki5316]

hahahaha those trapped monastics made my day

[@EvoLozGaming]

Hehe yeah it can be quite satisfying when you get to kill t5 cav!

[@istvanpalanki5316]

@@EvoLozGaming maxed my marksmen and yesterday wiped out a full rattan rangers unit during TW. Best feeling ever

[@istvanpalanki5316]

They are crazy good btw

[@wahba759]

Is the Assassination Doctrine really worth it on Javelins? When they hit the enemy hero is dead no matter what... so it seem to be a bit overkill putting a Assassination Doctrine on them. What do you think about the Assassination Doctrine at all? Looks like it is the perfect doctrine for every "Cover Commander" unit otherwise the Breakthrough Doctrine seem to be much more valueable.

[@EvoLozGaming]

Yes it is a little overkill and as you say better for cover commander units (I use one on my spear sergeants) but absolutely prefer the breakthrough doctrine but I seem to get a lot of assassination doctrines and very few breakthrough doctrines so a little limited on choice sometimes :)

[@jacksongouveia9427]

love the videos buddy! One question, im still kinda new so what's better man at arms or perfecure guards? i saw the video about man at arms but that one was really old so i dont know.

[@Pyan1]

both are good, but if you're looking for a tankier unit, men at arms is better. they are stronger but cost more leadership because they are a higher tier unit. prefacture guards are a tier below so they cost less leadership but are still very solid. they have a prefacture drill which makes them fight better for a short time.

[@EvoLozGaming]

I really need to revisit the men at arms. I'm a big fan of the prefecture guards but haven't unlocked the later palace guards yet so cant really comment on them

[@roelven1282]

i still use my squires even to fill that role and with my setup they still go toe to toe with prefecture guards (even did a test last week with a few m8s)

[@The0culus]

Love your vids! They got me to try the game out. What server do you play on? when I try to get any battle on NA I get horrible ping up to 200ms. Seems like it’s matching me cross server into an EU game. Not sure if it’s bc lack of NA games but it’s basically unplayable :(. Shame cuz I really wanted to get into this game.

[@EvoLozGaming]

Yeah they basically enabled cross server matchmaking for most battles as the NA population was getting a bit low whilst there was a lot more people the on the EU servers. I think you will occasionally find NA hosted games with lower ping but for the most part 200 ping would probobly be the normal unfortunately :( Is the ping to bad to make it playable?

[@nervousdog1]

I like them, I use then has shield unit for our pike units, and they have a great hero kill ability :)

[@EvoLozGaming]

Yeah they are certainly a nice unit, I also love the fact they can kill heroes in 1 volly :D

[@francesco8000]

Do you think it's worth to spend honor on unit upgrades in the tech tree? For high level unit those cost a lot BUT for 2* units you can give significant boost in power for a pretty cheap price and those are units that you end up using a lot. 2 Good example are ironcap archers and swordsmen: the archer can get extra range and precision while the swordsmen can get minus 6 seconds charge cooldown and plus 30% charge damage (going for the charge bonuses in the veterancy tree give a 35% bonus for comparison).

[@EvoLozGaming]

It's a good question. No super simple answer but i'd say possibly, if they are units you super regularly use then yes it can be but equally it's worth considering what else you could spend the honour on, you may well be preventing yourself from reaching higher tier units.

[@1thecoker]

I've been pumping a lot of honor into my imperial javelineers and while I'm only 1/3 done with their upgrades, I've noticed a difference. If you total the damage boosts from tech it adds up to 30% extra damage plus the increased block break which is hard to quantify. If I'm only getting 10% now and I'm noticing a difference, I'd say the upgrades are well worth it if you're taking them to every battle like I am. But it all depends on whether the unit is a priority to you or if you're more interested in something else. There's a lot of other things you could do with that honor investment.

[@Mark101dg]

Just noticed you skipped over their unit tree upgrades. Any idea when they do slashing damage? They've got a unit tree upgrade for it, but when do they slash?

[@ichtus1]

how you feel about bottom line in skill tree? also does it lower the cooldown between throws aswell (the 2 seconds reduction) -> instead of 5 between just 3? hope that makes sense^^

[@MrRenox23]

What skin are you using in your heroe. I'm new and been watching your vids learning about the game, pretty useful.

[@EvoLozGaming]

Glad to hear the videos are being useful :) I've got the templar hero skin on but unfortunately its from the games pre-order pack so isn't avaliable anymore :(

[@AnarchistGrandpa]

Wouldnt it be cool to have a jav unit with unit piercing javs (javs that go thru 1 target and hit the target behind it)?

[@EvoLozGaming]

That would be very cool! Might make the unit a little to powerful though :D

[@zurtafixXL]

Which WEAPON skin are u using on POLEAXE ?

[@PhaceplaM]

is daze not good?

[@k.eubanks6473]

Ay evo, not sure if u remember me, been watching ur stuff since beta. Don't tell people about javs >:( they will get nerfed! But yeah, if you use glaive's Warlord's greeting then the commander focus ability on imp jav/sarg's you will instant kill most heroes without them able to do much about it. sometimes it bugs out but you are almost guaranteed a hero kill out of it. Javs are hidden OP right now for their price, throw unit damage on sarg's and hero damage on imps and you are solid. I'm still unlocking the imp jav line for the shield break, but the sarg's line looks to be better for honor upgrades. I was surprised you didn't go for chance of melee stun on hit? how is shield bash? Are they shield bashing enough to warrant blunt damage over pierce with how hard blunt hits? At any rate u enjoy yourself, my lineup is as follows: Imp jav, jav sarg, Pref Guard, filler. Buckler line: (+23 leadership on guard gloves) Rattan roundshields, Pref guard, rattan pike, ironcap swordsmen, squires (Try this setup dude! all u do all game is charge into the enemy!)

[@EvoLozGaming]

Hey glad to see you're still around :) Yeah I agree with javs being one of those hidden gem units and the hero killing potential is really second to none. Combine that with there decent melee capability and it makes for an excellent unit. I'm not sure they shield bash that often to make it worth the blunt upgrade no

[@mdhnndmrzz6806]

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[@hudscales]

Honest opinion (I have very beginner troops), when capturing flags, what are the best troops to defend the point while capturing?

[@ytkhunter]

Demenese spear are a good option early to defend. Later imp spear or spear sgt. Dont get ironcap spear, they are useless. Halbediers can also work in defence if they have ally shields to protect them

[@joaojordao6411]

spear militia, pike militia so cheap and do a lot

[@นวพัทธ์ปลื้มจิตรชม]

Can u give me your honest oppinion of short bow plz.

[@EvoLozGaming]

Not played the shortbow for a long long time so a little hard for me to comment to much but from generally what i've heard it's not quite as good as the normal bow or musket class

[@stolemycoconut5448]

Really high burst damage but with that said you also rely on your abilities and combos. Is meh with meh gear but with good gear it's getting pretty powerful. Scales well with your own skill to. And you want to abuse the enemies weak spots. Like the head or on the back. Can beat any class in 1vs1s as shortbow you need to focus heroes and archers it you can't focus heroes. But it's a difficult class because I'd your doing none of those you will end up feeling like your doing nothing. Even with your ultimates you which is if you execute your combos well and for example with headshots can deal up to 15k damage against heavy armor but also a wholesome 1.5k if you don't... . But its not reliable and hard to execute. And I'm no longer a ultimate in shortbow as I swapped it out for the dodge. Pretty much a sum of shortbow funny enough people call the class underpowered and then there's me and type16 who make it look broken.

[@jakezee9427]

It’s a great support class against hero brawl but it relies heavily on the abilities. Really bad at wiping out units by themselves as it doesn’t really have a aoe skill that does much. It best at putting pressure on heroes in mass brawl.

[@leckteck5694]

you have to play imps diffrent from seagrents because Imp javs are against heroes with javs and seargends are there more for tha unit kills

[@pw5232]

sQUIRES OR pREFECTURE gUARDS?

[@EvoLozGaming]

For me prefecture guards! but squires are also very good. Just finishing off maxing my squires currently then I plan a direct comparison video :)

[@Jixxor]

That opening scene tho. 3 heroes literally 2 feet away and 20 javelins miss on each throw, yikes. This game's unit AI is so damn bad sadly xD

[@EvoLozGaming]

Haha yeah they did miss somewhat, got them in the end though:) I thinks that's why the javs often work well with the poleaxe because the poleaxe ultimate can lock heroes in place so the javs can't miss

[@Jixxor]

@@EvoLozGaming I tried the same with my musket ult, but when I knock them down with the bomb, my javelineers keep throwing at chest-height and as the enemy is on the floor, miss 100%. Not sure what to do to have them just miss the guy thats on the ground, not moving :D

[@eldrenofthemist2492]

Have you tried playing as a team with Friends. And trying to use the Pike and Shot Formations. So Some of your team Runs Musket men. while the other half Run Pike men. :) I would love to see a video. where you and your friends. Try to do Pike And Shot Formations. :3

[@EvoLozGaming]

I do often play in groups with others but tend not to record so much at these times. Interesting idea with the pike and shot groups, could be good fun!

[@roelven1282]

nice vid m8 ... but i have to pass on the javis ;) never liked em hardly played them so disbanded them

[@EvoLozGaming]

Yeah I've heard a few people who dont get on with the javs playstyle. Which is understandable, but for me I love the mix of ranged and melee

[@roelven1282]

@@EvoLozGaming that the fun of the game... for every playstyle there are units ;) ... .but im gathering so much silver nowadays (600+k or so..) and i earn more then i spend.. .so i might get either the shieldunit or the javis (silver costing mercs.)

[@stolemycoconut5448]

@@roelven1282 there's a high chance at some point you won't be using mercenaries anymore as they underperform in comparison to other units and if you win you bet a higher reward then when you lose. If you do good in a match and consistently you will earn more then with that 10% bonus and lackluster units You can fit 2 silver era units and a golden era to level up and use occasionally since silver era is really good already. Or a 3 4 5 setup Been using my black dragon archers for a longtime though but in high level matchmaking you can notice the difference

[@roelven1282]

@@stolemycoconut5448 stopped using the archers (black dr.) for a long long time now.... but becasue im at 20/20 maxed out barracks... any unit i buy with silver is adding a dedicated barrackspace for that unit ( i cant delete it and keep that space) ... so adding a diffrentunit i can add to some builds i use for the fun is a plus ;) .. .and hell ... what would i do with all that silver anyway ... (im first waiting to see what season 3 brings before i buy any merc unit ;)) all my silver era already maxed out, same goes for quite a few 5 star units now.

[@waughy9103]

just press 1, and everyone dies INVEST