Conservative Civil War EXPLODES! Tucker, Candace, Vivek, Shapiro & MORE!

linktr.ee/rattlesnaketv to reach me on all platforms
t.me/rattlesnakedaily 👈 join the Telegram for daily discussion! 🚀
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
📞: Book a consultation call with me: calendly.com/jakerattlesnk/co...
🤐: Join my LOCALS community (Uncensored, Unfiltered, exclusive content!) rattlesnaketv.locals.com/
🥇: Make a One Time Donation Via Paypal: paypal.me/jakerattlesnk
📷 : Follow Me On Instagram: / jakerattlesnk
🐦: Follow Me On Twitter: / jakerattlesnk
❗️: Follow Me On Rumble: rumble.com/user/RattlesnakeTV
🌍 My Travel Channel / @rattlesnaketravel
🎥 My Clips Channel / @realitybasedmedia
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
👍 🔔 Make sure to like, subscribe and hit that notification bell to make sure you never miss out! 👍 🔔
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
A list of some of our favorite equipment and where to buy it 😁
📸 Main camera - amzn.to/3JzxBxc
📷 Second camera - amzn.to/3NsYRPd
🎙️ Microphone - amzn.to/3r2cddV
🎤 Interview Mic - amzn.to/3NQBHUz
📦 Storage device - amzn.to/3CKVmPn
SD card - amzn.to/44bC8hs
Camera lens - amzn.to/3XrPUdv
💻 Computer - amzn.to/3NPRfI7
💡 Lighting - amzn.to/46n1WJn
Tripod - amzn.to/3Pz5anc

[@rattlesnaketv]

linktr.ee/rattlesnaketv to reach me on all platforms t.me/rattlesnakedaily join the Telegram for daily discussion!

[@JENSDEN]

of course you shouldn't believe the narrative we have been told,they didnt start lying or start demonizing anyone they dont like in the last decade, its been going on for over 100years. dresden was a war crime, i was banned from youtube after 12yrs 1 strike in jan 2021(this is another account) bc i put up a video in 2014 showing what it was like 1920s Berlin (weimar republic )with the title history is repeating itself with a caption in the description and you know what they say about not knowing your history,youre doomed to repeat it. with all this transgender being pushedy and how the same communist behind it then are behind it today but they couldn't/didnt do anything until they changed their terms of service and made it more strict.

[@MarcherLord]

check the crimes the american military on the German people after the war , and the solders who surrendered were made to starve fighting over a loaf of bread , im proud my country BRITAIN was the very last country after the war to come off Rationing 1956 ( if im right ) , germany our enemy we gave to the lost of our people but is greatly overlooked

[@JENSDEN]

@@MarcherLord everything you were told was from the same people telling you today

[@MarcherLord]

@@JENSDEN no ..from the German people in the 50s up to Today JEN , am telling you Today

[@ca8944]

@@JENSDEN we have pictures, videos and soldiers who were there telling us. Stop believing leftist propaganda

[@LukeCassidy]

I love the US. I am an American. And I will defend this country. But to think that the US is not capable of committing horrible atrocities abroad is naive. America is a piece of land, a continent, ruled over by human beings. And THAT is the issue-human beings. We are capable of horrible evil. Being an American doesn’t preclude you from that fact.

[@Juide80]

No matter what nation or group of people we're talking about there's no way around what you just said.

[@Strikeoutking]

All true. It's also true that Tucker is an idiot. And doesn't know what he is talking about concerning the advent of atomic weapons and the use of them on Japan. He is a simple minded Luddite that has weak geopolitical awareness.

[@danrother3707]

I have said this multiple times over decades. Every always stay silent. When I question something as being misleading the question would come out to if America can do anything, why can't they do that? If America led to the people, who better to do it then Gov? Nobody answers this. Yet bc we have no proof Ben wants us silent bc we didn't find evidence first? Tsk

[@78LedHead]

Extremely well said, and positions of unbridled power? They tend to draw narcissists and psychopaths out of the pool of humans. It's becoming more and more rare to have honorable, uncorruptible people manning positions of power.

[@OrenPanitch]

Is someone saying we're not?

[@BenJamin-jc4jm]

Soviets didn’t commit many war crimes, tell that to the 2 million German women who were raped. Come on.

[@WarrenKirkpatrick]

A lot of countries committed war crimes, however, without the soviets, we would have certainly lost.

[@gregcrane4953]

​@WarrenKirkpatrick and without us, the Soviets would have been decimated.

[@Lizards_Lounge]

Funny how tribal everyone gets... Wy I see it, NONE of the comments in here are valid, because I WASNT THERE TO SEE FOR MYSELF. MEDIA LIE, its actually thier job.. and MOST of what people think they know about history was what was broadcast on media.. to convince the public to support the corruption. ALL COUNTRIES have good and bad in thier past.

[@bradschaeffer5736]

Thank you! I'm also sure the starving Ukrainians (1930s not today), the Kulaks and the millions who died in the Gulag would also have something to say on this.

[@ocheokoh3942]

I think you misunderstand. No one is defending what the soviets did. It was horrible and very wrong. But while mass rape is definitely a horrendous atrocity to carry out in the name of war, you have to agree that it is definitely far less horrible than mass murder, and it would be disingenuous to pretend that both crimes carry the same weight of evil.

[@mjbwhu]

History is rarely black and white. The debate about the morals/ethics of the dropping of the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki is still very much ongoing today among historians (I follow it closely as a current postgrad Modern History student). And both sides have very good arguments! Tucker saying that anyone arguing the pros of dropping the bomb is 'evil', is lazy, reductive, and just plainly anti-intellectual. It's important to have the conversation, and labelling all those who have a 'pro' stance as 'evil' before the conversation starts is no better than labelling those who (for example) have an anti-immigration stance as 'racist'. The whole debate is complex and filled with moral vs pragmatic arguments at every turn. Using the bomb ended the war, saved lives, and prevented the Cold War from turning hot. It also brought immense short and long-term suffering upon civilian populations In short, the only thing you CAN be sure of when it comes to this debate is that anyone who claims that it was solely good or solely bad is someone you shouldn't pay any attention to if you're serious about gaining a well-informed opinion on the matter

[@CyndiGabe]

Yes to this!

[@GordonFreeman.]

This is a great response. It is so frustrating that someone like tucker Carlson is boiling something so complex down to “kill civilians = bad”.

[@hsld8930]

This comment is very well thought out. I struggle with understanding the situation as a whole. How do you hold people who commit war crimes responsible without committing war crimes yourself? Pearl Harbor then fire bombing Tokyo, the genocide of east Chinese by the Japanese its very tough to defend either position without falling into evil acts in general.

[@MrSirRambo]

Well said!

[@synewparadigm]

It's all come down to the question if you want your children to survive or the enemies kids?

[@madMARTYNmarsh1981]

My grandad served in the Second World War, he was my hero. He taught me that 'blind loyalty is not loyalty, it is subservience, whether to the person or the idea. Real loyalty demands the asking of questions and the willingness to attempt to persuade someone you love that they are wrong if they are. If you can't persuade them, walk away. Remove your support. Hope they see reason.' It is a hard creed to live by; people are stubborn. I have lost friends, but I don't get dragged down with them.

[@danrother3707]

Been my life motto. Never taught. Learned from life. Why I say to religious people of blind faith when they only assume bc someone said it or wrote it down.

[@donquijote6030]

Great comment. Your grandfather said something very similar to my WWII veteran grandfather. Wise words from wise men.

[@noncekilla8848]

Respect, my Grandad was a paratrooper and path finder in WW2 and a peace keeper in Palestine for 2 years after the war Peter F Charlton on the paradata website, the world owes that generation a great debt, respect to your grandad 🫡

[@Lizards_Lounge]

Same, slowly over the years always losing people because I challenge them to question things. To me thats REAL compassion.. most just go along with the crowd because they are SCARED to be called crazy or go against the brainwashed majority., its a WEAKNESS that people dont question things.

[@gaborbazso7812]

@@Lizards_Lounge "Real loyalty demands the asking of questions and the willingness to attempt to persuade someone you love that they are wrong if they are. If you can't persuade them, walk away. Remove your support. Hope they see reason." Ok. In any military environment what you are suggesting is a seriously punishable crime. What you are saying is a good guideline in a responsibility-less civilian setting, but never in a military setting. And I don't mean just in my area, but in every military that have ever existed. It only works if you guessed right to not comply and can convince your higher ups. And that is always a guess that you take, because you will definitely not have all the needed information on the fly, the most crucial info usually comes out after an incident. The correct way to handle it is if you have doubts then leave the military while not on duty and not sabotage the whole chain of command and the operation. And even that could be a crime depending on the circumstances. If you are on duty to do that you need to be certain that either you have more and more correct information than your higher ups or that they are compromised.

[@robertbrown6513]

Ok so when was the last time anyone in government was actually held accountable... I think it was when tar and feathers were sold at the hardware store

[@rksocal2828]

Im a big tucker fan and can't stand ben but i personally think this re-hashing of history without the context of the time is ridiculous and no different than what the left currently does regarding slavery or native americans. None of these people criticizing Americas use of the bomb were faced with the responsibility of being part of an American ground invasion force into mainland japan and putting their own lives on the line, its very easy to criticize when it's other peoples fathers, sons and brothers life on the line, they are all saying this from the comfort of their air conditioned studios and have never even served in the military or seen combat, the Japanese where infamous for their Samuri spirit of fighting until their last breath and who knows how many tens of thousands of American lives would have been lost clearing mainland japan house by house/buidling by building/city by city, this is why im so anti-war, war is a horrific game of attrition that has no real winners in the end and of course no one wants to see any civilians killed but to over simplify it like this into a bad guy/good guy situation is ridiculous and a revisionist form of looking at history. Even if we did launch a ground invasion into mainland japan which would have caused thousands of US lives, B-52's and the US Airforce would have been bombing every city ahead of the ground forces to make way for the troops to advance so there would have been mass civilian casualties anyway you look at it and If you really are "America First" you would rather have those casualties be Imperial Japan supporting people who side with the "axis of evil" rather than American people, however tragic may it be. For some reason Tucker is able to recognize nuances and call out this good guy/bad guy narrative in the Russian-Ukrainian war but all of a sudden its lost on him now regarding WW2. I just think its really weird to out of the blue start blaming America in 2024 for using the A-bomb to end WW2 and save American lives at the expense of the Imperial Japanese, it seems like something the left would do to further push the narrative of "America bad", I cant believe tucker who I follow closely and respect his journalism greatly has me siding with ben shapiro who has been wrong on almost every major issue the past 15 years minus a few things (being a leading voice for free market capitalism, fervent supporter of a religious America, finally endorsed Trump ect) P.s. my grandfather was a Dutch civilian who was captured by the Japanese in Indonesia (former Dutch colony) and put in a Japanese labor camp, he was tortured, beaten and worked to the bone until he passed away from starvation, the imperial Japanese had absolutely no regard for civilian life, they were brutal and ruthless tyrants on all the civilian populations that came under their control and were not some poor innocent angels in this war.....

[@ww2marineknight]

Well put

[@CLCL-hb8vd]

I am 100% on the same page. The mission of invading Japan was called operation downfall. The estimated casualties to the American soldiers were between 220,000 up to 3 million. I think Tucker is amazing and I’m very disappointed to see him say anyone defending dropping the bombs was evil. It’s sad but it did save lives. The Japanese might of never surrendered

[@kazamaxi]

I really think Tucker has lost it

[@hitthurdeaux]

Perfectly said. I agree with everything except the stances on Carlson vs Shapiro (I’m lukewarm to both). And what bothers me is: what’s the purpose of Tucker’s childlike take on America in WW2? Why is he talking about this, and if it’s about Israel-Hamas, what point is he trying to make?

[@nebulous6660]

Where exactly here is Tucker just asking questions? 🤔 He doesn’t sound skeptical at all about his position on the atomic bombs, the Iraq war, UFOs, Evolution etc… Aside from his Putin interview, characterizing his positions on Rogan as “just asking questions” sounds like a straw-man being used as a shield to turn this into a free speech argument which it is not. Reminds me of when Jon Stewart would hide behind “I’m just a comedian”. It's ok to have opinions, just own it.

[@kazamaxi]

He is not just asking questions he is using this to push a subtle justification for Putin support and support of Gaza

[@caracoidwren944]

No one is trying to stop the flat earthers or deniers of the existence of Australia because nobody is dumb enough to spend their time bothering.

[@user-qj8pc4dv7g]

"Bombing industrial targets didn't work" There ya go. He answered his own question: "IT DIDN'T WORK" Conclusion=Just give up and lose.

[@theskyisteal8346]

IIRC the Japanese were hiding factories in seemingly residential buildings in Tokyo and staffing them with civilians. As far as I am concerned, the firebombings of Tokyo are probably among the most defensible military actions undertaken in WWII

[@thefallen501st9]

@@theskyisteal8346my biggest issue is we call people who make weapons of war civilians like would u not be a passive participant at least if you repeatedly make the same rifle that is used to equip hundreds of soldiers?

[@theskyisteal8346]

@@thefallen501st9 when I said "civilians" I meant women, children, elderly and infirm

[@nickf8268]

Yeah that part had me honestly fired up. No pun intended.

[@jamesmitchell6483]

Proportionality in war is prayer of the side that initiated the carnage ! The extreme carnage that wars normally reaches is the reason NOT to start the conflict !

[@iurutanyensa]

What is this infantile “proportionate response” idea in war? You decimate your enemy so they are unable to threaten you again. Plain and simple.

[@ralphralpherson9441]

Correct. War isnt a f--king game.

[@jeffmitchell9831]

Well said !!! Apologists can leave the US or UK whenever they want - we are STILL the countries that keep the world free from autocratic and theocratic regimes…. God bless UK and USA 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧!!!

[@chivomartinez]

Exactly

[@mzarkovic90]

So why is everyone else a tyrant in a war but the USA is not?

[@hareltube]

💯!!

[@ytube777]

I would recommend rejecting counterfactual arguments. Place yourself in the historical context. Be open to further learning and updating of your views. Be aware that time and time again, the truth is obscured from us. What is that? The first casualty of war is truth.

[@CyndiGabe]

Thank you, yes!

[@QuickCuriosity150]

can we all agree killing people is bad edit: looks like agreeing people killing people is bad can’t be agreed upon either 😂😂 people there obviously reasons why it’s happens. im simply saying that’s it’s not ideal that it has to come to that as i said before “WE DONT LIVE IN A PERFECT WORLD”

[@jessequest8575]

I hear what you're saying but people have a right to defend themselves and especially when you're surrounded by people that want to wipe you off the face of the earth like Hezbollah, Hamas, and Iran lol Major problems don't usually get solved without conflict unfortunately. I don't know where you live but I think that the security you have now is a consequence of a lot of people dying. It's easy to sit behind your phone and virtue signal your morality but in the real world it has little utility.

[@WilliamFairfield-qq2tq]

That makes you anti semetic how dare you

[@ameliam7898]

So is allowing your ppl to be killed 🤔

[@Strikeoutking]

Lol, no. That mentality gets you conquered. These Candace and Tucker populists could use some history lessons.

[@ADAMBUFFOLINO12]

Yes. It can also be a good thing in certain situations.

[@georgeclarke2258]

Bottom line is that we can pretend that there are rules of war, but the only rule is I win and you lose

[@chivomartinez]

Absolutely

[@Adroit1911]

There is no such thing as a fair fight. Just winners and losers.

[@ASTRALSTUDIO84]

but it shouldn't be like that, you should keep your moral compass... what happens to standing for what is right? what keeps you from starting as a hero and ending up as an oppressor???

[@kezman74]

@@ASTRALSTUDIO84 Everyone's moral compass faces different directions.

[@khaicapital2142]

Its insane how these people dont understand WW2 WW2 wasnt a normal war There were maniacs willing to kill their whole population in order to not surrender

[@reenatai75]

I'm depressed 😔 and really disturbed 😢 .God save humanity from its stupid politicians

[@tessajoy5085]

Trying to apply moral and ethical standards to intense wartime activity may make one feel virtuous 80 years after the fact but it is nothing but self-serving posturing from the safety and comfort of your home. America was becoming depleted physically and emotionally after severe fighting in European and Pacific theaters. As unpalatable as the use of atomic weaponry is, and nobody looks back on it with relish, it was the best option to end that war at the time. America didn't start aggression with Japan. Japan initiated it and America ended it. Hopefully, we ALL learned from it so that we never repeat it.

[@user-cd6yl4uc2q]

Mick Pompeo is a bully I want him to Free Julian Assange. The poor guy did nothing wrong he has suffered enough.❤

[@kaptaink1959]

What authority does Pompeo have? Even in a new Trump administration Pompeo may not have the authority to help

[@ryanroehrig54]

I appreciate that we are having this discussion.

[@FazeParticles]

The Bush conservatives are scared they’re going to lose any chance of remaining in power on the right wing.

[@dbgith]

I have the most insightful and shocking comment you’ll ever hear. Hindsight is 20/20.

[@BigAlSpeaks]

You cannot get beyond Candace/Shapiro.

[@1970BBB]

Time to move off grid 100% and be done paying taxes and funding this shit .

[@CheekyClapper]

Filtering out that old war-hawkish conservatism has to happen. You’d think agreeing with Biden on this one would wake them up. Not provoking others is a part of “don’t tread on me.”.

[@Strikeoutking]

You are setting us up to be weakened and conquered. The other powers don't sit still. I cannot believe how naive people are to believe these Tucker and Candace types. America is an Empire, all the comfort it and the world has is because of its influence.

[@Juide80]

Very well said.

[@tyler0267]

Agreed!

[@crispusattucks8265]

What does non-hawkish foreign policy look like?

[@CheekyClapper]

@@crispusattucks8265 America first. Fortified border and defenses over globalist expansion.

[@amamama4356]

I keep thinking - what can be shaken WILL be shaken. It’s painful, but pain is necessary to get beauty from ashes! Hebrews 12:27

[@dienomo]

I'm 72 years old and served 4 years in the USMC during the Viet Nam war but saw no combat. I believe it was around this time the idea of proportional response became popular. I think it's a terrible idea and ends up with more death and suffering .Overwhelming force is the quickest way to peace. The Japanese were brutal warriors that would rather die than except defeat .I know that the so - called rules of war were ignored in the Pacific.

[@kazamaxi]

The torture methods I heard about were horrific

[@hitthurdeaux]

Exactly. Once the “rules of war” are discarded by one side, it’s very difficult for the other to keep following them and win the war. And ultimately, survival matters more than a guilty conscience, especially when you’re trying to stop the aggressor.

[@nzskipster]

Since Shapiro fired Candace I lost all interest in the guy for firing her on daily wire regarding her opinion on Israel

[@synewparadigm]

She did it for financial gain. She doesn't care that she is splitting the right mouvement before elections.

[@donabrams276]

No cults

[@donabrams276]

No followers

[@Juide80]

Same here along with other dishonest statements. Good for you.

[@hitthurdeaux]

He didn’t fire her over her childlike opinion on Israel. He fired her over her not so subtle jabs at his religion. Only a dummy would fail to see that Owens never signed off her tweets with “Christ is King” until after Shapiro stupidly bashed her for her stance (which I still disagree with Shapiro on). It was childish on Owens’s part.

[@rememberstayangry2366]

I think way to many people apply modern military capabilities to past conflicts. People also apply modern intelligence gathering, communication capabilities, and computer technology.

[@Canecorsomomma]

I personally believe that as none of these people were there at the time, they can fake their “morals” real and imagined and honestly shove them.

[@user-qj8pc4dv7g]

The first war that the USA conducted in a deliberate attack against civilians was the Civil War, when General Sherman vowed to "Make Georgia howl", and he did.

[@hudsondunn6579]

A lot of people forget the American Indian Wars and Texas Revolution (Texas was not technically part of the USA, but let's be real... the US without Texas might as well be Greenland)

[@user-qj8pc4dv7g]

@@hudsondunn6579 I think that Mexico was inviting Americans to come and settle in Mexico and civilize it.But then the Americans overwhelmed Mexico in numbers. Kinda like Mexicans are doing to USA now.

[@piggypooo]

Was Georgia his pet basset hound or something?😂

[@hitthurdeaux]

@@user-qj8pc4dv7g or worse: how the Muslims are doing to Western Europe

[@DPTrainor1]

Too easy to look back 60 or more years and second guess decisions made at a time of war.

[@78LedHead]

People knew back then that Japan was defeated. There was no need for it. It was just to flex. Dresden too. In a time of war you should have leaders who aren't psychopaths who don't want the war machine rolling at all costs for profit. Being in a time of war does not give a nation carte blanche to kill civilians. It's just common sense. Anyone with a heart wouldn't proceed with such a thing, and many warned against it back then.

[@crispusattucks8265]

@@78LedHeadthis is factually false.

[@78LedHead]

@@crispusattucks8265 Factually false? It's historically accurate. There was a lot of shady stuff mixed in with the Manhattan Project. You can't just take what you were taught in high school at face value. You have to go deeper. There were several men of integrity who started questioning things towards the end of the war, and went on record saying so. Unless you work for Dick Cheney, it's historically true, we're just never taught these things. Dwight D. Eisenhower knew it was true. Gen Patton knew things weren't above board with how it ended in Germany, with the bombing campaigns. Oh, btw, nice examples of where I'm factually wrong or the evidence to back it up. You're like so many others, just wave it off, out of hand, before looking into your self like an adult American should.

[@daveking9393]

​@@crispusattucks8265yup big time. So sad.

[@ryangifford3500]

@@78LedHeadyou’re wildly incorrect. Japans estimates as well as ours… many several million lives lost. More modern estimates are even higher. Japan didn’t want to surrender after the first bomb and even immediately after the second. Read a book.

[@dallasmiller4324]

Everyone needs Jesus

[@notsoshadey]

Tucker is not asking a question he is making a moral statement

[@GordonFreeman.]

An incorrect moral statement.

[@synewparadigm]

He is also not smart to do it before elections. He is splitting the right mouvement.

[@kazamaxi]

@@synewparadigmmaybe he wanted to do that

[@synewparadigm]

@@kazamaxi He want to have Lose the election and 4 more years of Bidem?

[@flamingosaregreat]

Keep going man. Younare literally a G!!!!! Can't wait to see who you interview in London. I hope to god it is Douglas Murray.

[@DailyFactzDF]

Douglas Murray is boring

[@WilliamFairfield-qq2tq]

Andrew Doyle much better

[@ameliam7898]

Disagree with him all you want but Douglas Murray is brilliant. You would be wise to consider what he says….

[@carriep.mccannon2952]

Douglas Murray is awesome!!

[@Juide80]

@@DailyFactzDF Douglas "Doug" (😉) Murray is anything else but boring. You must have the attention span of a gold fish. I really hope Jake will be able to catch an interview from him.

[@gifthorse3675]

The guy at 25:00 basically said we can’t defend ourselves or end a war because it’s bad.

[@sandythai3390]

Real evil exists. We have ti try to fight it and sometomes there will be casualties. Unfortunately in modern times the evil comes from within.

[@jakelee8538]

"Or are you firing your virtual machine gun and hoping something lands"....that's gold, Jake.

[@SWN66]

"I'm just asking questions" is better than saying "It's Obvious" to something you're not sure of.

[@paulsoldner9500]

Massively lost respect for the historian when he claimed the Soviet Union didn't commit war crimes when they invaded Eastern Europe and Germany while pushing back the Germans. Not only did they absolutely target civilians to kill, but their mass rape campaign (indiscriminate of age) was so severe it fundamentally changed the genetic makeup of the region. To claim that bombing civilian populations is a war crime but close quarters murder and mass rape of civilian populations is not is really disingenuous.

[@kazamaxi]

I know Polish people that hated the Russians for what they did to their country and people. They destroyed everything in their farms, buildings & lives. Nothing is black and white, there are shades of grey in between

[@sweg5989]

Also, the difference between US and soviet, was that soviet chose to sacrifice russian lives, while US chose to drop the bomb instead.

[@kazamaxi]

@@sweg5989 because they do not care about the lives of their own people

[@Gilmore72]

Well, Jake, the question here is why the right questions asked are considered wrong or even subversive in a “democratic” country.

[@Sony_Toprano]

Because they point at the truth like nah tseas did.

[@hitthurdeaux]

Why is Carlson “just asking questions” by pushing a childlike narrative about America in WWII in the context of the Israel-Hamas war? What point is he trying to make, beyond telling everyone that his take is intellectually lazy?

[@user-ot3wl3ky9i]

Mr Tucker has a genuineness . Also the objective of life is to learn and grow and our eyes are opened along the way. He is brave and I applaud his openness.

[@stevendouglas3781]

This is why I hate the trolley problem. It convinces people there are situations where they understand every variable and have access to alternate timelines.

[@TheMFox]

Countries and their leaders are not infallabale. We have the benefit and luxury of heinseigh. 1) Go and get definition of collective punishment....2) Ben is correct. We can't just "ask questions," we have to propose and pursue answers. Sometimes the truth is painful and we have to choose between two horrible options. Also, Ben has invited Tucker to sit down and talk for months and Tucker keeps dodging.

[@cryxibus]

Why don't Shapiro and Tucker just have an open debate about this?

[@seminoleboy96]

Ben Shapiro too scared to debate anyone who isn’t a snot nosed college socialist

[@doomraven0]

It would be interesting for sure. Ben has openly sided with Tucker on a lot of things so the debate would essentially be pure isolationism vs. Some US intervention overseas.

[@kazamaxi]

I have lost all respect for Tucker

[@Juide80]

Because most of the Daily Wire people are cowards who can't stand behind their own words or policies. Why won't any of them debate with Myron Gaynes or Andrew Wilson about Red Pill and marriage? Because they would be decimated!

[@EmreDemirkayaLoves]

Never trade Humanity over Patriotism !!

[@Drahazar1]

Yes we were targeting industrial areas and it do effect Germany we have seen it in the production or tanks, vehicles and weapons. Do to the damage to the industrial complex it created problems and malfunctions in German equipment and greatly reduced how many tanks and such they could manufacture to the point the could not meet quotas.

[@MrRetluocc]

Oh no! People disagree about the ethics of historical events... Quick, get me some pearls to clutch!

[@williamlawrence3661]

So now it is don't ask questions and do not do your own research! They want robots willing to walk over the edge of a cliff without asked where they are going! HELP!

[@ca8944]

That’s not what he said. Geez, you people have turned into the left with not thinking critically

[@daveybigtechsno1fangurl518]

The question is age old how many lives do you feel are equal.

[@AGVolonakis]

We are now resorting to calling executioners murderers in the name scoring points…YES!!! “War is hell!” Just ask the Chinese civilians of NanKing.

[@reginagilby1101]

Russell brand has a great interview with a colonel Douglas Macgregor from 2 days ago is brilliant

[@frankmiller4550]

What? Thanks, first I've heard of it.

[@markl8111]

We're definitely living in the beginning of WW3! The only reason to discuss history is to learn the lesson, going forward. Not to rehash all that could have been done differently. What we should never do is believe the approved narrative without factual information supporting the narrative. There needs to be a cold dispassionate review of history, policy, and future plans.

[@micheltremblay4170]

There have been many neutral dispassionate reviews of history. Read books and stop listening to pundits.

[@Juide80]

More importantly there needs to be truthful review of history, policy and future plans. As long as it's factual and truthful in every way I don't care how fiery and/or passionate it is.

[@andrespena2354]

It's easier to wage war than to make peace. After all was said and done the war is over what country helped Germany the most?

[@stevendouglas3781]

“The enemy just nuked Boston!” “That’s gonna save a lot of hypothetical lives!”

[@JustinWilley-nb3ck]

It's always odd to hear a so-called man of God calling for the death of anyone, let alone innocent civilians. I don't think God intended for the American government to be the worlds judge, jury, and executioner.

[@brandonpeters1618]

I would agree But there is many times in the old testament where such actions are allowed and even sanctioned by God. Things get skewed with civilians when at war, but the Ten Commandments say “do not murder” not do not kill.

[@BasedBill]

@@brandonpeters1618 There's one religion with a serious focus on The Old Testament, and they certainly are warmongers. Their justifications are incompatible with Christianity's beliefs, which are more in line with modern morality. Using the Old Testament as proof of morality only works through the lens of that religion, not any form of Christianity. Pretty sure it's always been "Thou shalt not kill".

[@ca8944]

Who?

[@Kmurray9244]

So is a crime a crime.before the crime.is.defimed? Does the crime get definition from Geneva convention, Geneva Protocal, Geneva Accords the International criminal court....was it a core international criome before we bombed? Did Japan commit a war crime by attacking a neutral county not involved in the war ? This is all nonsense and has not legal standing in the time of the act ..

[@branchesofYAH]

We have never not been in war. They call them kinetic exercises, support, and a myriad of other terms.

[@chickbowdrie4750]

The way see it, these folks are all leaders. It's very common for leaders to argue and debate each other and disagree.

[@j-cbaumgartner5761]

Personally think this is total BS , the battle for attention , contents please

[@breakthroughmadeinusa9184]

Shapiro is eivl

[@georgejcking]

I agree with Tucker %100 on ALL of his views. He is, by far, the most honest, intelligent, and intuitive person in the industry!!!!! Tucker should be president!!!🎉

[@raybojr1]

Ah yes, polite war

[@colinbell3374]

What is the difference between a civilian and military in a drafted war? This is such odd logic. People seem to be saying it’s okay to shoot someone in the face who was involuntarily drafted into war today, but if he was shot yesterday before his paperwork was completed that’s a war crime.

[@Joseph-Mullins]

Exactly

[@Whickedlee]

Thank you

[@woolywarrior4God]

I'm confused as to where you are seeing that. The fact is bombing civilian targets includes civilian deaths of women, children, elderly, disabled, and sick, those who would not be drafted for war. Are you arguing that it is okay to murder these people just in case a truck shows up to haul off the able-bodied men in the community? Or are you arguing all civilians, aged 0 - 120, are drafted in a draft?

[@nekofjung]

@@woolywarrior4God The argument is simply that war is always terrible. It is very rare for anything good to come out of war. In war, the most important thing to end it as quickly as possible while saving the most lives of your citizens. Yes, it is terrible that citizens of the enemy may die during a war, again war is the worst type of conflict humans can have and nobody is saying it is good when enemy citizens or combatants are killed. That said, imposing moralistic rules on your own side that the other side is not following will only lead to more death of your side's citizens. It is not a zero-sum game where the countries at war treat the civilians of the enemy as being worth the same as their own citizens and troops. The enemy certainly will not - especially if it is a power-hungry enemy that is already trying to conquer the world and create mass genocide. Handcuffing your own generals in war to fight for the moralistic win is something you can only do if there is a way to win within those rules that does not sacrifice more of your citizens. I personally, believe we should not enter into wars except as an absolutely last resort, but if we do enter a war I would hope our side's generals would care more about being the most troops back home safely and keeping our own citizens safe to a higher standard than protecting the citizens of the country we are at war with, and they certainly shouldn't be accused of war crimes after the fact for making difficult decisions in the heat of battle.

[@woolywarrior4God]

@@nekofjung I agree we should never throw accusations of war crimes around callously, but we should be able to accuse our own of war crimes if they did commit them, or even have a discussion on whether or not they might have committed them. After all, we expect to condemn the other side of war crimes made in the heat of battle. Are you arguing the victory status of their nation is the only difference in whether they are guilty? Or are you arguing we should never accuse anyone of war crimes? I do concur that war is always terrible, and that, unavoidably, citizens die inadvertently in war. However, I do not agree that we should throw morality out the window because our enemy has done so. In the wise words of fairytales, we should not become the villain to defeat the villain. Furthermore, in the WW2 atomic bomb instance, Germany surrendered 2 months previously, and Japan was faltering and discussing surrender. As such, there appears to have been no power-hungry enemies that posed a threat anymore. Now, I do not know how much of this information regarding Japan our government had before they dropped the bomb, but this shows at the very least that our government can make mistakes when analyzing threats. It also shows there was probably no pressing danger to our own citizens. Given this, do we ever want our government to target civilian targets with weapons of mass destruction?

[@annex318]

Nice work as always Jake! I love how at the end you said, “Just asking questions…”. 😂😂💗

[@pedrohcp1]

“It has already come to pass that the demon of evil, like a whirlwind, triumphantly circles all five continents of the earth…” #Solzhenitsyn

[@jn-bl4ls]

The lice culture.

[@OutintheWild00]

This conversation is so fruitless. You can never change history. Let’s discuss how we defeat the current evil destroying the western world.

[@joshuapreston7170]

The invasions of Iwo Jima and Okinawa proved the Japanese were not gonna give up

[@Immortal-yf5tg]

L Ben. He is weak and evil.

[@synewparadigm]

Not an argument.

[@cameronhesketh6814]

The Dresden anecdote is the most overhyped bombing action in WW2 along with Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Why would the allies spare any major German city? If you made it clear to the enemy there was a major safe haven, guess what the enemy does? They setup shop in that safe haven knowing they won't be harmed, all their industries are placed there, seats of power and authority are stationed there, they'll be safe, as they know the enemy won't attack them. This is like HAMAS placing its weapons in bunkers around schools, hospitals, large civilian dwellings, shielding themselves, that's the theory anyway. Germany and Japan started the fighting, why shouldn't the allies finish it. The allies sustained huge casualties trying to stop both Axis powers, would have been a lot higher if they didn't bring those 2 nations to their knees. Over Compassion is the conduit for psychopaths to take control and take advantage.

[@ralphralpherson9441]

Agreed. "Winning hearts and minds" is how we lost Afghanistan

[@angelh5762]

Wasn't Germany bombing the cr@p out of London. How else can you stop someone with hitler's mindset.

[@mellowsecond4098]

I absolutely agree! The enemy would not have stopped unless the actions that were taken happened. I’m so sick of people being so bloody naive! The Germans wouldn’t have stopped, the Japanese would not have stopped, Hamas will not stop until they are completely crushed. You can’t have negotiations with someone or people who want to wipe out your entire country along with its people, down to the last child. People like Winston Churchill knew this. The west is weak and if it falls it’s on the heads of those naive enough to believe that everyone, every human is good deep down…sometimes they are not. Ask drug cartel members, ask terrorist organisation members…they will let you know that they are evil 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@kaptaink1959]

So true.

[@stevendouglas3781]

Maybe, but it’s less about quibbling over strategy and more dispelling the narrative that we were the uncomplicated good guys fighting to preserve innocent life and save the world. A narrative that has defined our culture for 80 years and informs almost every political argument. Where now native born citizens are experiencing the same de-hum-an-ization once pointed at the germans. Your argument seems to depend on the belief that you have access to alternate timelines. You don’t and no one does. You can only make choices based on moral boundaries. You might win a war if you don’t have any, but you lose something in the process. “Over compassion is the conduit for psychopaths” is exactly what I mean. Crazy thing to say. Would you feel the same way if we dropped 3 on 3 cities? How bout 12?

[@stevendouglas3781]

What’s most revealing about this debate is the amount of people who don’t know the difference between morality and pragmatism.

[@dougderubis648]

Asking questions is literally Tuckers job

[@bubbacosta8758]

When it comes to WW2 I question a lot..I finally realized that what was in the history books was propaganda

[@FazeParticles]

Of course. WW2 was a continuation of WW1.

[@kazamaxi]

We are living in 1984 now history is being rewritten 😅

[@alexandrescu6061]

Is the last man, debating Piers Morgan, really giving the Red Army as an example of a moral force for good?? Seriously?! Ask anyone from the Eastern European countries that have been "freed" by the soviets from the germans. They will tell you unimaginable stories of soviet soldiers behaving worse than animals, not just worse than the germans. The consensus is clear: the soviet army, supposedly "the liberatos", behaved much worse than the germans, the occupiers. I can't believe a serious hystorical expert would give the Red Army as an exemple of ethical and moral force. He sounds like a communist sympatizer.

[@GordonFreeman.]

Yea I was blown away by that. Sounds like something antifa would say. Implying Soviet Russia fought a strictly ground offensive to save civilians is so far removed from reality

[@hudsondunn6579]

He is not saying the Red Army was a moral force for good. He was replying to Piers and used Germany vs Russia during WWII as an example of a war being fought and won without specifically and strategically attacking large civilian population centers. I think he even voluntarily conceedes that Russian Soldiers raped and pillaged and comitted other war crimes.

[@arewestilldoingphrasing6490]

There was a Norm Macdonald line that was something like Arent we lucky that the Good Guys always won throughout history of this country. Right?

[@kel8026]

Can I just say I like that Jake just does his own thing here on KZbin instead of becoming all buddy buddy with the other KZbinrs who just keep interviewing each other over and over again.

[@benwolk2028]

And then he interviews Pearl Davis, the most inane KZbinr of all. 😆

[@NET-POSITIVE]

They is and never will be a "proportional" response to an attack, no matter who did what first. A "proportional" response is almost ALWAYS going to be excessive one way or another!

[@anthony452]

They forget the fact that they have NO IDEA how many lives were saved by murdering civilians.

[@kirkkeeling9436]

Real dead people vs theoretical dead people is a terrible justification

[@HFFCANADA]

​@@kirkkeeling9436if it was being used as justification yes. But to soley state the fact more would hae died had they not done it, yes its true. Justifying it means you're erasing any kindof moral quandries you might have, thats not what he said. To state a fact is not to justify anything or remove guilt.... I'll go further tho an justify it. Go in depth about what the Japanese had done and then tell me they wouldn't have wanted to kill EVERY single allied soldier and civilian. They tried. And they literally flew themselves into our ships and fortifications to kill us. Does that sound like someone who would'v not used the most lethal weapon ever devolved? You're completely naive if you think that they wouldn't have donethe exact thing. Not only wouod they have used it they wouldn't have stopped when we did....i doubt even if we surrendered they would have

[@OrenPanitch]

@@HFFCANADA I don't understand these "Captain Hindsight"ers position. We were (and are) at War with people who DO NOT believe in civil warfare as outlined by English standards. There is no shared etiquette. They want you gone and will do anything to do it. That is not justification for committing moral atrocities by your own standard, but War calls for some of the toughest decisions there has ever been made in Human history. The line between survival and non-existence depends on it.

[@JohnBrown-ce6uf]

​@@OrenPanitchWhen Japanese soldiers were being called back to defend the mother land, their Commanders ordered all wounded soldiers that couldn't walk, to be killed so they couldn't be captured alive.

[@OrenPanitch]

​@@JohnBrown-ce6ufcontinuing to make my point they play by different rules

[@stevendouglas3781]

I’m for anything the delegitimizes the current regime.

[@stevendouglas3781]

It will be interesting to see how these type of debates go when America is no longer the dominating super power.

[@LW1Tok]

That clip of Shapiro is being used out of context here. It has absolutely nothing to do with this issue at all. It was about conspiracy theorists who asked questions without atleast trying to provide proof of their argument.

[@Mrspuma527]

Yes, thank you.

[@JC-ok4yx]

Do they forget this is an election year?

[@mrmagoozle]

That’s sweet you think voting actually matters 😄

[@JC-ok4yx]

It’s not about voting, it’s about organizing. Leftists are organized but their ideological opposition is not.

[@mrmagoozle]

@@JC-ok4yx leftists are organised? Are you living on planet earth bro?

[@synewparadigm]

Exactly! Candace, Vivek and Candace are hurting the right before elections 😮.

[@josephlocantora7209]

I had to look this up to double check my facts.The International Humanitarian Law, or the Laws Of Armed Conflict was ratified in the four Geneva Conventions in 1949. On the surface there was finger pointing at Japan and Germany, but makes one question if the Allies were also being haunted for their decisions.

[@jackwolfe7493]

Ty. This was one of the best informative KZbin videos I've seen years.

[@QuickCuriosity150]

a wise man is one who acknowledges he knows absolutely nothing

[@kaliimyst7925]

Reminds me of a Shakespeare quote: "The fool thinks himself to be a wise man, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool"

[@QuickCuriosity150]

@@kaliimyst7925bro i haven’t heard that quote i love it ❤

[@gailg2327]

But acts, doing the right thing anyways! Thanks

[@Sony_Toprano]

Socrates

[@stevendouglas3781]

Then what’s the point of wisdom? Just not knowing things? Lol. Silly quote.

[@dac088]

I agree with Ben regarding the 'just asking questions' rant.

[@robsmalls]

"Just asking questions" is also known as the Socratic method.

[@cdistasio]

Topics that need to be discussed-- 1. The true nature of the income tax and why the income tax was never imposed on the average guy contrary to popular belief. 2. 9/11 and the war games that were going on at the same time the alleged attacks were happening 3. Operation Northwoods from 1962 4. Zero point energy

[@flee4urlives]

i cant stand this arm chair quarterbacking of WW2.

[@ca8944]

Me either!

[@michaelgaudette4015]

Very much agreed. Not only an armchair, but a big comfy one decades after the fact.

[@alxdom]

Right, we shouldn't ask questions and learn from the past!

[@kaptaink1959]

@@alxdomyou can ask questions but you should also have an answer and defend it. Tucker doesn’t do thar

[@flee4urlives]

@@alxdom im sure you've asked all the right questions and learned so much you can hop in your delorean and head back to 1941 and show em how its done.

[@DjNaste]

I love how Jake addressed Shapiro's rant about "just asking questions" by asking some questions.

[@Sony_Toprano]

Shapiro's tone deaf defence of Israel and effort to 'shut down' questions is just the zionism coming out in him. Like saying 'don't follow the money'. Don't ask questions! If we didn't ask questions we wouldn't have medicine and his WIFE wouldn't be a DOCTOR.

[@TonkaJay]

I did not know about those General qoutes and it is upsetting to me because if it is true Japan was going to surrender, then there is no reasonable argument for dropping the bombs. It sounds like Japan was a guy that got knocked out and is on the ground and America is the guy that came up and kicked him in the head just for fun. That is indefensible.

[@beholdapalehorse7700]

It's a lot different retconning/ judging history from the comfort of modernity- surrounded by peace.

[@user-ds8wy7mz3z]

Not defending all that Ben Shapiro says but, this clip has nothing to do with the context you're using it in. He was talking about conspiracy theorist commentators who "just ask questions" instead of providing proof or logic on their theories. I doubt it was done in bad faith, but you need to listen to his whole rant rather than picking one part to support your point.

[@chivomartinez]

I think our friend Jake is turning hard to the woke left. Hopefully he hasn’t been bought. Will see in his future videos.

[@ca8944]

Thank goodness for reasonable people like you! These other Neo-knotzees commenting is driving me up the wall!

[@user-ds8wy7mz3z]

@chivomartinez I'm thinking he's more on Candace's side of the feud, and he's lashing out at Shapiro for it.

[@AbbiShachar]

Agreed!

[@chivomartinez]

@@user-ds8wy7mz3z that's the problem with the right and centre right and the centre we are not united. The left and the hard left never break lines.

[@MyUserTubeAccount]

"as a matter of fact the nazis were trying to devolop nuclear weapons so it was moral to nuke Hiroshima" says the guy with a backup homeland

[@OrenPanitch]

That wasn't his argument

[@MyUserTubeAccount]

@@OrenPanitch it's what he said... my point is Ben just slipped in the word not see to justify his next point.

[@OrenPanitch]

@@MyUserTubeAccount Ben brought up the nuclear arms race with Germany and the Soviet Union to justify the US making them in the first place, not as a justification to use them.... very big difference. Having "mutually assured destruction" is what has so-far prevented large-scale conflict amongst the world's top powers - as Ben rightly points out.

[@MyUserTubeAccount]

@@OrenPanitch ok

[@user-ii7eo3ck6n]

Ben Shapiro is exposed as an Israeli agent who had to subvert the right into becoming a genocide supporting state. WW2 narrative Sold to us by Ben's family, is a big lie .

[@combatible]

My man! Luv your breakdowns! Been waiting for this one.

[@tangomoon111]

Thought the content was exceptional. Well presented and thought provoking. I'm on the side of peace. Feels right. Nice to see there are others.

[@jrc1219]

Seriously, I have been asking questions since I was a child (30+ yrs. professionally!)... one can take the other approach Mr. Shapiro as why is the other person not willing to provide answer(s)/ information!?

[@ca8944]

That’s not what he says. It’s asking questions without any kind of proof or evidence just to create a false narrative with a hidden agenda. How would you like it if I asked everyone in your neighborhood if you were a pedo file? I have no evidence or suspicious activity but “I’m just asking questions”

[@jrc1219]

@@ca8944 Of course; everything has context... questioning is better than assuming and/or going along per say!

[@Juide80]

​@@ca8944There's a difference between fair and unfair questions and all Tucker's questions are fair, at least in my opinion. And Ben didn't whine about the validity of the questions but the asking them itself. He's a dishonest creep.

[@ca8944]

@@Juide80 he has an agenda. Here’s a question. Who is funding Tucker?🤔

[@ca8944]

@@Juide80 no, Ben did not whine about anything and he has a point that some people hide behind “just asking questions” for their agenda. It’s clearly working on gullible people like you.

[@LW1Tok]

What do people expect in war? People die.

[@branchesofYAH]

They are not neocons they are leftists, they are left of moderate.

[@michaelparker7831]

The only legitimate response would be to move forward incrementally; assuming the agreed upon response.

[@kperson101101]

God I can’t stand Ben Shapiro and Jeremy Boring anymore. Everyone should unsubscribe from Daily Wire.

[@doomraven0]

Except for all the people that like using their brains. You hate two people, fine. There are so many different opinions on DW. And all of them are smarter, more well informed, and less arrogant and antagonistic than Candace Owens.

[@noanswersdad]

I like Tucker but his WwII opinion is off reservation.