Conservatives ‘are really in trouble’ as leadership plot falls apart

“It is funny that the only people who seem to be worse at politics than Rishi Sunak are the people plotting to remove Rishi Sunak.”
Matt Chorley, Robert Crampton and Alice Thomson discuss how the Conservatives are “arguing amongst themselves” so much that they can’t unite behind a successful plot to oust Rishi Sunak.
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[@willowspencer9696]

Nothing of value was actually said in this clip. The state of British journalism is just sad now

[@thedon1004]

4:45 Wrong. The single worst thing for the Tories isn't infighting. It's 14 years of totally inept government. It's fascinating listening to the chattering classes 'analyse' politics and get it so glaringly wrong. For most people the Tories could argue all day everyday, as long as they were competent in their day job, effective administration. The state of the country after 14 years of their mismanagement is what led to the local / mayoral defeats. Hopefully since they show no understanding of the concept of accountability the ballot box will teach them some.

[@mulengae5]

13 years of total disasters

[@stephfoxwell4620]

14

[@garyturner5739]

One after another.

[@BrianHamilton-zv6on]

Never trust a tory

[@TG-ts3xn]

As opposed to..?

[@OneTrueScotsman]

Or Labour at this point, given how many Tories feel comfortable moving there.

[@cashkitty3472]

Never trust a labourite either. Both useless

[@Nick-fg4dq]

​@@OneTrueScotsman2

[@trevorhart545]

Q Misprint, NEVER TRUST A Story?

[@daithomas9859]

The trouble is they belong in a bygone age .😂😂

[@trevorhart545]

Harland & Wolf TITANIC? or Upstairs Downstairs or Boys From The Black Stuff?

[@ML-or2ot]

That’ not true about having no tradesmen to build houses. I am bricklayer live in Scotland and there is hardly any work here because the interest rate is so high no one is buying houses. We don’t want immigrant tradespeople as they drive the wages down and have poor standards and low skill base .

[@susanparkauntiesuze5447]

Apparently Gove is the architect of it all- say no more.

[@martinmcgurk5150]

Tories are Toast 😂😂😂😂

[@edwardduff4746]

@edwardduff4746 20 minutes ago People are absolutely mental if the vote for labour or conservative. David Kurten Heritage Party We are now in our fourth year since we launched as a party in autumn 2020. This is a vital year for us as there is likely to be a General Election at the end of 2024. We will also be contending local elections in England and the London Assembly election next May. In the UK, the old political parties continue to work in lockstep together to allow perverse materials into classrooms for Relationships and Sexuality Education, permit open borders with unprecedented levels of both illegal and legal immigration, and make war on motorists with increasingly onerous restrictions on travel for ordinary citizens such as LTNs, 15-minute cities and the ULEZ. The Heritage Party is the only UK-wide party that will end the climate emergency hoax and lift all restrictions on carbon dioxide emissions. We will ensure that people can continue to buy and use petrol and diesel cars and keep gas boilers in their homes. We will repeal regulations that require homes to have SMART meters and meet impossible new building emissions criteria, designed to force the abandonment of older buildings that are a precious part of our heritage. We will introduce a Child Protection Bill to protect children from propaganda that attempts to confuse them with gender ideology or groom them into early sexual activity. We will also control our borders by pushing illegal boats back across the Channel and introducing strict caps on student and work visas while ensuring we train enough young British people to do the jobs that need to be done in this country. I Edward say that if anyone votes Lib/Lab/ Con or any other left wing parties they need their head examined. Heritage could, with your help make Britain great again. Anyone who votes labour or tory or any other left wing party need their head examined

[@lewisbarber1875]

Yes, housing is the barrier to most people being able to move and be productive. UK policy and greediness on housing has cost young people the chance of the good independent life and then the government turn around and call them lazy and label mental health as fictious and overplayed.

[@AndyRossism]

Micheal Gove, is what drugs take to get high.

[@grahamturner1290]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@mac1975]

The weasel of Westminster and his scheming wife

[@joelboy19]

hahaha

[@dalecrocker3213]

Nobody wants to go down with the sinking ship. It's the post-election leadership which is important.

[@chrisbos101]

To quote Graydon Carter, "Arrogance, ignorance, and incompetence. Not a pretty cocktail of personality traits in the best of situations. No sirree. Not a pretty cocktail in an office-mate and not a pretty cocktail in a head of state. In fact, in a leader. It's a lethal cocktail."

[@billygnasher]

Kick Sunak out ex veteran

[@adamday2067]

Sunak looks weak, and is weak. He must go !

[@BrianHamilton-zv6on]

The uk is weak never mind sunak

[@copaloadofthis]

@@BrianHamilton-zv6onsays a bot that joined 1 month ago 😂

[@BrianHamilton-zv6on]

@@copaloadofthis thos bot would kick ur tory baws

[@BrianHamilton-zv6on]

@@copaloadofthis you no handle the truth and whats it gotta do with how long people joined ya 🤡

[@Truthsayer-sc9uq]

Yes, the longer Sunak clings on, the more difficult it is for the left and ‘Ola-Ubers’ to take over this country. Well done 👏 👏 You all have no idea that you hated on a wrong man ! Now wait for the ‘Ola-Uber’ chants everywhere the Labour and ‘greens’ win!

[@captainfrandad1138]

It will be very amusing to watch a leadership fight after the next GE because, with any luck, the current prominent contenders might not even be MPs.

[@PassiveAgressive319]

Let’s hope

[@Martynjs]

The problem is the party not the puppet shoved out as 'leader' - as we have seen time and again with the Tories. We have not had an effective government since 2010.

[@jonmoore873]

Pretty sure he got the job to go down with the ship. I don’t feel at all bad for him but it was a no win for whoever got it.

[@cashkitty3472]

We haven't had an effective government since before 1997. All of them since have been bloody useless Tories and Labour are not fit for purpose

[@trevorhart545]

BEFORE May 4th 1979? that is when it all SPUN out through the drain pipe! Never recovered since but almost went down with the poops when BoJo the Clown took over!

[@trevorhart545]

@@jonmoore873 Humza Yousaf, John Swinney Todd, BoJo the Clown, David Cameron, John Major, Nicola Sturgeon, Alex Salmond and Old Uncle Tom Cobbly and All.

[@jdg9999]

Lol, Labour was an effective government was it? The people who set this country on the road to total ruin and whose policies that Tories have done nothing but continue.

[@OLDSKOOLRAVER1]

So its not the millions of immigrants putting stress on the countries housing,benefit systems, schools and health services. Lets vilify the mentally unwell or disabled people that have paid into the system for decades and so have their relatives before them and have children that are continuing to do so .As an English man i couldnt illegally enter any country i choose and be housed given money and use the same services as the native people .

[@xaiano794]

Yet I'm willing to bet you voted to bring all those migrants here. I bet you voted for Brexit

[@josephmalik3861]

Pass the pop corn and hold my Beer 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ZombieWoof794]

Gove is the arch right wing plotter. What is he dribbling about?

[@TG-ts3xn]

Right wing?!! Where?

[@trevorhart545]

Q. when did he learn to draw?

[@trevorhart545]

this was sent as a comment to "susanparkauntiesuze5447" BUT KZbin have problems yet again!

[@julianmorrisco]

That’s 8 minutes and 3 seconds I’m not getting back.

[@_Meng_Lan]

Your choice!

[@saragonmcenany6229]

No more chances Tories out on November 14th. Right Gove urges against a lurch to the far right

[@cashkitty3472]

Let's not give labour a foothold either

[@MurphyOCP-001]

Times Radio trying to make sense of the words of a known coke user is quite funny

[@ellenoneill7853]

I have just read the 116 page report called "Why Britain needs a better approach to immigration" By Robert Jenrick MP, Neil O’Brien MP & Karl Williams. Clearly this panel have not read it as they are stating that Britain needs mass immigration for x, y and z. However, the report clearly demonstrates that mass immigration does not bring economic prosperity to the UK. Some high skilled immigration from certain countries does bring in higher taxes but most does not including the 146,000 people who came on the Health and Care Visa route and their 203,000 dependants. All using public services, the NHS and using housing. Please look at the details before declaring something as fact.

[@prideofdurham4776]

Robert Jenrick stating facts?😂😂😂😃😂

[@ellenoneill7853]

@@prideofdurham4776 They are not his facts, it is various data from the ONS, the 2021 Census, the Home Office etc.

[@northleedspoppa]

Sorry we have real problems we can't indulge right wing weeping about immigration fantasies Shush now

[@clintcumberland1664]

What are these fools babbling on about 🤦‍♂️

[@crayontom9687]

Who gives a toss about the Conservative Party? How about the Times does its job and looks at the state of this country

[@toysntings4087]

Because they aren’t journalists they are activists who want labour in with open borders so they can’t mention the fact we are spending billions on illegals already.

[@jmmypaddy]

These Tories have absolutrly zero interst in governing to show they are competent, but instead focus on power, which shows they aren't interested in the collective society. If the Tories get battered in the election, they can point to this problem as the reasoning. Labour need to spell out a vision to solidify a reason to vote for them, not just simply not voting Tory.

[@grahamturner1290]

"Orchestra", indeed. The Tories are going to have a Thrash Metal experience at the next GE. 🎸

[@RobBCactive]

They're more Rick rolling not thrash, begging non-listening voters not to give up on them!

[@grahamturner1290]

@@RobBCactive 😂

[@williamfraser8059]

What a tool.

[@rookie_]

I did previously travel to and work on Home Office projects in London as an IT contractor. Now IR35 (taxation) has been brought in and makes the weekly travel from Newcastle unworkable. Suspect that the many legacy IT systems are failing and this is resulting in the poor service being offered.

[@adampowell5376]

This alleged plot has been going on for months. These plotters if they are plotters are very inefficient. There is a chance that these alleged plotters are not plotters but individuals obsessed with their own egos.

[@michaelcrowe3278]

Is anyone surprised at this state of affairs with this bunch leading our great country?

[@jayrdee8542]

Most jobs are short term contracts, so you end up looking for a job 6 months down the line. It's easy for politicians and reporters to call people lazy when most of us are in and out of work every year.

[@techtinkerin]

Absolutely disgusting

[@Tom_murray89]

If Rishi was politically aware he would have called an election or resigned after the local elections

[@tt-ew7rx]

I think they've got a bunch of snare drums beating at their own frequency drowning out the conductor.

[@KevinMole-cj3kl]

Who wants to be leader of that party now

[@MurphyOCP-001]

I see the Times has either delayed or cancelled their PMQ analysis. Presumably they’re still trying to figure out a way to spin it in Sunaks favour.

[@PatrickMcGowan-ch4ho]

They can't even organise a plot, each of them is doing a little one person plot.

[@theman2017inc]

The fact that the plot is public means there little or respect for Sunak as PM and leader of the Tories. Tories by nature are loyal (publicly) but have low tolerance for weakness and incompetence which Sunak is unfortunately. Ian Duncan Smith and Liz Truss were removed by the Tories for weakness and incompetence, Sunak won’t survive as PM and Tory leader unless they’re resigned to their doom and know as well as accept defeat at the general election!

[@Baschn66]

Another MP defector. Does not look good.

[@alvaroq2024]

I don’t follow anything much from around the world because here in the USA we have our hands full, completely 😞

[@robduncan599]

' Stormy ' weather?

[@alvaroq2024]

@@robduncan599that’s one aspect that’s getting all of the attention for now and with good reason!

[@kayoarawo6116]

Only the stability and power of the USA matters.America sneezes, and the world will catch a fever

[@politics392]

G E T. T H.E. T O R I E S O U T

[@MrKidOcelot]

Vote for the Citizen Independents or The Workers Party!!!

[@pureblood1980x]

Tories really don't get it do they? 🤦

[@vapete1237]

If they had the plot but no longer have it .. then clearly they've lost the plot .. whats new here?? 😂😂

[@evora9081]

Conservative party does not have anyone who could be the next prime minister. They are all lightweights

[@RaoulDuke333]

Yay 🎉🎉🎉😂🎉😂🎉😂😂😂🎉

[@nevillefinlay7538]

A plot or what ever get him out,both parties idiots.

[@user-pd5et5ft7p]

'skinny' here means having sensible viable policies.

[@TG-ts3xn]

If only they had a parliamentary majority and could leave the ECHR in the last 7 years! 😂😢

[@user-yx7uu6ki6u]

This man in number 10 needs to move aside we are not going to vote for him he and others got rid of Boris we cannot forgive them

[@elizabethbeattie6488]

We want a general election now thanks

[@litarosa6434]

"They" Lost the Plot!

[@maneshipocrates2264]

They said they are predicted to be in a hung parliament.

[@ManGoatHamburger]

They’ll say anything right now.

[@DavoInMelbourne]

The Tories will be just fine; the millions they’ve kept/put in poverty, not so much.

[@Cherrytune386]

Yay 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mariacrouch7109]

LEADERSHIP FALLING APART AS WELL AS SUNAKS PANTS IN AN ARGUMENT WITH HIS SHOES SO MUCH SO THEYV ALSO GONE THIER OWN WAYS AS WELL .

[@helenlloyd6564]

I don't know why that unelected squatter at number 10 is still there. Perhaps Sunak is like Raymond Reddington Sunak has got his own Blacklist and holding on to power by people who are on the list.😊

[@seanoconnor8843]

You have to applaud Gove. Not sure it's a genuine conversation. The right wing is just a bit more harmful than a poor diet. I'd like to see him argue for beneficial policies and ambitions

[@frankgrima1190]

Labour is not that good 😂

[@TelfordO]

The Plot, The Plan...... what a load of word salads from TORIES

[@Truthsayer-sc9uq]

Yes, the longer Sunak clings on, the more difficult it is for the left and ‘Ola-Ubers’ to take over this country. Well done 👏 👏 You all have no idea that you hated on a wrong man ! Now wait for the ‘Ola-Uber’ chants everywhere the Labour and ‘greens’ win!

[@johnbatch9276]

There is a place for sunak its called Rwanda 🇷🇼 😊

[@michaelkemp6857]

Elphicke was more right wing than the Austrian corporal!!

[@jennymcclean6212]

Get him removed now

[@pmartin54BB]

FFS : winning is "skinny", and whackjob policies are the "junk food" of politics - you're welcome.

[@alzo1sgood]

The longer rishi clings on desperately the worst it will only get for him and his party. He needs to call an election asap.

[@Truthsayer-sc9uq]

Yes, the longer Sunak clings on, the more difficult it is for the left and ‘Ola-Ubers’ to take over this country. Well done 👏 👏 You had no idea that you hated on a wrong man ! Now wait for the ‘Ola-Uber’ chants everywhere the Labour and ‘greens’ win!

[@Truthsayer-sc9uq]

Yes, the longer Sunak clings on, the more difficult it is for the left and ‘Ola-Ubers’ to take over this country. Well done 👏 👏 You had no idea that you hated on a wrong man ! Now wait for the ‘Ola-Uber’ chants everywhere the Labour and ‘greens’ win!

[@terryloftus3207]

Its not because their not right wing,its because their TO right wing.

[@Rozmic]

🤣😂

[@martinmcgurk5150]

Can't we just get rid of the SQUATTING SUNAK from Number 10.😂😂😂😂

[@sandyellis28]

Think the whole party (& country) might unite in the plot if they had an alternative. I’m sure Mordaunt will have rejected PM role right now - it’s impossible work, her seat at risk too, no ones listening to the Tories & just want them out now. Suella too said Rishi needs to own this (failure) & sure Kemi feels same. It’s a poisoned chalice, nobody wants that legacy. Best thing Rishi can do is call a summer GE, it’s only going to get worse for him.

[@Truthsayer-sc9uq]

Yes, the longer Sunak clings on, the more difficult it is for the left and ‘Ola-Ubers’ to take over this country. Well done 👏 👏 You all have no idea that you hated on a wrong man ! Now wait for the ‘Ola-Uber’ chants everywhere the Labour and ‘greens’ win!

[@twenty3_co_uk]

The only chance to win, dump Rishi

[@LeonardHayward]

That's what happens when you have Ghandi as PM

[@drc4563]

This was very poor. I make no judgement on the politics but there’s no real analysis here. It’s all personal and no real analysis or content.

[@darrencady4261]

We have a choice: vote tory or vote tory.

[@xaiano794]

Vote labour, everything was better under labour.

[@jameslawrence3666]

As a trombonist I am appalled !! 😮 I shall be demonstrating the art at Louie, Soho tonight @ 10pm

[@UKsoldier45]

When leaders in organisations fail to realise they are part of the problem, it shows just how unethical they become. A greater number of people would vote Tory if Sunak was not the leader!

[@user-cf3cr8ki7e]

Bad omen Rishi dishi sunak likely to lead the Nasty Tories company, penny pincher, Fillibustary, with Casting Bad omen into next election 😂😂😂😂

[@Garwfechan-ry5lk]

These lot here are talking gibberish!

[@dutchdocherty6882]

Not worth reading. Sunak is a dead man walking now.

[@chrisgregory9836]

well lets hope the Torys get disbanded and Reform takes over their position then we can get rid of the Labour party next and get all Muslim Mayors out of offices over the country they have no right to tell us British what we should and should not do their countries are big enough to take them all in and leave the UK to the British and take their religeons with them

[@pega1ag171]

I think rashi sunak could stay it going back to gye falks the big plot

[@user-mx1gh3mn3w]

Leftie talk times radio!

[@davepalmer151]

What happened to pmqs unpacked?? My Wednesdays are grey and dismal without it....

[@geoffreyharris5321]

Kick labour out and get rid of the little mayor

[@RichardSmallwood-du9qb]

Speak up please, I've got my Laptop going flat out! You're just mumbling!

[@wendymoney2043]

As an old lady with a plethora of life skills + experiences + didn’t graduate until my early 40’s…l speak with honest openness… It’s not only in our nation but across the world itself…we have + continue to elect, privileged bullying cowards without any life skill experience, to make the most appalling political decisions, on our behalf…+ then we habitually moan + complain…yet…condone them. Life is a pendulum which unless it’s monitored regularly + checked for its stable effectiveness…will…swing indiscriminately out of control…+ is precisely where it’s at now. We have under our belts, 3 decades of the worst educated people since the end of WW2…+ until this is rectified in our own educational system, alongside effective parenting…there is absolutely no hope of any positive progression now or in the foreseeable future. I’m 76, had my first vote at 21 + supported Tory visions. Since 2010, they have steadily broken piece by piece the Greatness in what Britain was…to where we are now, with a wealthy educated unsafe lunatic at the helm. I cannot support Starmer, IMO, he’s inadequate for the role. So for the first time in my adult life..l won’t be voting at all + take my chances with whatever arrives on our doorsteps!

[@Truthsayer-sc9uq]

Yes, the longer Sunak clings on, the more difficult it is for the left and ‘Ola-Ubers’ to take over this country. Well done 👏 👏 You all have no idea that you hated on a wrong man ! Now wait for the ‘Ola-Uber’ chants everywhere the Labour and ‘greens’ win!

[@Jctkno1]

Starmer, working class, degree from Leeds, ended up being the head of the CPS - yes, he’s inadequate…. I despair at comments like this

[@user-ce8rm9tb6v]

stockholm syndrome

[@patriciakidd1947]

This country needs an English man with passion for how the country used to be not people from immigrant families

[@OneTrueScotsman]

"How to win an election?" Lets move even further to the right, and away from the centre, that will get us more votes....

[@jdg9999]

I love when leftists give advice to conservatives on how to win elections "oh, you better not do anything right wing, you will never win an election that way". The Tories aren't right wing at all, so how could they move "even further to the right". In the real world, outside of your moronic leftist narrative, they've moved even further left by putting Sunak and Remainer liberals in charge, and they've collapsed in the opinion polls after doing so.

[@davewhite3629]

They must be saying at least the Asian guy with no shame is taking the falls.

[@lordbonington]

I've never come across a right wing trombonist....being one myself.

[@andrewwise9184]

Liz twuss on the wadio

[@niallp342]

SUNAK IS SUKNACKERED...