Consider Yourself DEAD Without This In COLD WEATHER! Part 3 - "Something to sleep in"

[@carltaylor4942]

The few times I've had to sleep outdoors in the cold I always made sure I had a big sheet of cardboard underneath me. Saved my life in winter. If you find yourself outdoors in winter make that your first priority.

[@mrakl3]

To me, it's a great set-up... I've done this almost the same way many times. Thank you.

[@EsyuDach]

the bugnet suits and camo nets are useful in both warm and cold weather, and are not effected by their getting wet. They dont make a sleeping pad big enough for me to stay on it. I toss and turn a LOT and wind up with a knee off of the mat, getitng cold, maybe wet, waking me up. IF you have enough debris, that's nice, but often, there's not enough debris, or it's all rotten or soaked. I have a way to discretely dry out enough debris to give me another 10F degrees of warmth and that debris is then portable, between the bugnet suits, worn as longjohns , with more debris held around me by wraps of the camo netting. Iif I havve that much debris) if not, the netting works pretty well, especially inside the wraps of drum liner and PEVA. The PEVA of course, can become the "front window' of a Kochanski supershelter and the drum liner has many uses. Oonce I set up the hammock/bivy/envelope, I leave it set up as a unit, until there's reason to change it. Same with it set up as a supershelter. I use the gorilla tape for most of the assembly of the supershelter, and have spring clips to hold-shut the corner that i use to enter and exit the shelter.

[@jcee2259]

I did not use tents in my weekend winter camping. Because the upper extent of a limestone cavern I was exploring was not freezing. damp. or windy. Warmed by hard labor using hand tools I was OK. No wood fire, ever, as cave smoke would be lethal.

[@michaelliebe5028]

Love my MSS, In the winter that's all I use. I humped with it in the Army so it's no stranger to me now that I'm 50. The gortex cover is the best thing ever made lol. Great video.

[@awayinthewilderness4319]

@@michaelliebe5028 Full overnight video on the channel. Thanks for watching! It really is a great system.

[@baronedipiemonte3990]

One can make a very decent "debris bed" without the same exposure to ticks & other nasties by snapping a halfway decent (and large enough) poncho - treated with permethrin - closed and stuffing it with leaves & such. Lay on it & compress, and re-stuff until you achieve desired thickness.

[@awayinthewilderness4319]

@@baronedipiemonte3990 I think the bivy on top accomplished the same thing.

[@RAYANDERS-w4t]

THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@michaelbrunner6654]

Thats why I think it's important to test your gear before you need it.

[@OutlawCamper]

"practice with your stuff" That's what we say at #outlawcamp.

[@EsyuDach]

that's still 6 lbs of stuff and a lot of bulk. Much of the year, debris is wet, rot, or absent. So I always bring a 1 lb net hammock. You only need one tree to rig a way to sleep in the hammock. Fires and shelters dont keep you warm and dry when you are hiking/hunting/fishing, getting water or firewood or as you find/create the shelter/fire. So I developed sleeping gear that i can wear as clothing and modify according to conditions and needs. I use a couple of 1/4 lb each amazon bugnet 'suits" and a couple of their half lb each "cut leaf" type of camo nets, all worn as longjohns. Twist the camo nets so that the "leaves" cannot "lay flat" and they provide an amazing amount of insulation. The netting cant get wet, from sweat or rain, I use a 1.5 lb. XL size tyvek bivy, from 2GoSystems. NOT the regular size. as it's too small. i taped together a couple of SOL heat sheets and installed a couple of sleeping bag zippers, I use this reflective plastic bag as an "envelope" around the bivy. You can't let the bivy touch either you or the envelope. You need those two layers of trapped air to insulate you from the cold. I pull the hammock and a ridgeline thru the bivy, with the envelope around the bivy. I have another ridgeline between the bivy and the envelope. The bivy is $95, the heat sheets about $10 each. the bugnet suits and camo nets about $30 each, Ditto the 10x50 ft, 2" mesh, monofilament gillnet from Miller's Netting. If need be, I can make a raised pole bed, cover it with deberis and use the net hammock to hold lots of dry debris around me, wearing the bivy , sometimes even the enevelope as a poncho. I carry a 3x6 ft hunk of clear PEVA shower curtain, cordage, Gorilla tape and stakes, in case I have to set up a Kochanski supershelter and heat it with a Siberian fire lay, aimed at the PEVA side of the lean-to. i dont need a sleeping bag, sleeping pad, tarp, groundsheet, poncho, or heavy clothing. Im up off of the bugs brush, steep hillside, thorns, rocks, roots, mud, snow. I can be 15 ft up in a tree, if need be, with a couple of hours of making a ladder. out of reach of dog packs, or people who dont have projectile weapons.

[@awayinthewilderness4319]

@@EsyuDach 👍 Whatever works for you! Thanks for watching

[@OutlawCamper]

Really depends on where in the world you are and when you're there. Also, 6# of gear is nothing compared to old timers carrying 60# of nonessentials! Good stuff.

[@EsyuDach]

@@OutlawCamper i dont think anyone carried 60 lbs of non essentials. They had a horse, donkey, etc or slave carry such things. But they carried 30 lbs of stuff that was and is very inferior to 10 lbs of modeen stuff, for sure.

[@awayinthewilderness4319]

@OutlawCamper I don't think 10 pounds is a lot. Especially if it will keep you alive and somewhat comfortable. Thanks for watching, man!

[@swampdaley6088]

Make a video or just a sketch please. Sounds ideal.

[@thevirginiabushcrafter8833]

That is what I Preach. thanks for sharing.

[@EsyuDach]

A hammock is an essential part of my setup. If you press-together any of my layers of tyvek or heat sheets, you lose the valuse of the layer of air that's trapped between those membrains. The bugnet suits and camo nets are present mostly for summertime The camo nets WILL shed rain pretty well if just hung on your person, while you walk. and they excell as insulation that keeps your sweat from dampening your cammies. Contrary to what people "think", spiders and ticks can survive 2 weeks or so at 20F degrees by burrowing into soft debris. Iif you're using that debris as insulation,, you either need a bugnet suit or you need to heavily smoke each handful of debris., which is a royal pita to get done

[@EsyuDach]

most places, you can heat up rocks to put inside the footbox your sleeping gear, or heat water and put it into bottles , used in the same way. You can heat the ground where you'll lay, or heat BIG rocks to put under a low slung hammock, with your tarp being in an A frame configuration, over a ridgepole or ridgeline, Bring the tarp all the way to the ground, and stake out its bottom edges, so as to retain the stone's heat for as long as possible.

[@EsyuDach]

yt has vids about the Siberian fire lay and the Alternative Swedish fire torch, 1-2 of which are used to ignite the protruding ends of the Siberian, if all is wet. I rarely have access to 8 ft long, 8" OD logs, so the fire has to be attended to frequently, but sedatives, sleep mask and earplugs let me get the needed rest. It is no joke to be deprived of sleep, folks. If you go 48 hours with no sleep, you're worthless., unable to do much of anything. You need hot, fatty food out there in the cold, too. I dont care for coffee or tea, but hot chocolate is SOUL food when it's cold. So is chile, mixed with jerky. Salt pork does ok once the weather is freezing, but it wont "keep" well in hot weather. I use peanut butter, granola, Koolaid, powdered milk, flour tortillas. jelly. salad dressing.

[@BradtheButcher1234]

You need to get to know our venerable recently past Canadian guru of bushcraft....MORS KACHANSKI.....he was bushcrafting grandfather...HE TRAINED CODY LUNDIN his supershelter with a space blanket and a big sheet of plastic is better than anything else you can come up with.......over 70 degrees in the shelter....Dave Canterbury after Cody built one on dual survivor said it was the warmest shelter he had ever seen....screw that hammock garage......I live in CANADA

[@awayinthewilderness4319]

@@BradtheButcher1234 I've seen the super shelter. I don't think it gets nearly cold enough in my area to warrant using one. I might try one out one of these days.

[@BradtheButcher1234]

@awayinthewilderness4319 you end up sleeping on top of your sleep system or have it wide open.....t shirt and sweatpants in minus 30 degrees CELCIUS

[@brianfoltz-p9y]

How dependable is the gortex bivy? All the gortex i have seems to become non water proof/repellent before long.

[@awayinthewilderness4319]

@@brianfoltz-p9y I've never had a problem with it, but I have also never slept right in the rain with it. Maybe I'll test that out sometime. I'm always under some form of shelter with it.

[@markledford4370]

BE SAFE AND WARM ⛺🫕🛶

[@ScottCarlson-cz7wj]

I enjoyed all 3 of these videos. I like keeping things simple. These vids contain bedrock truth.

[@awayinthewilderness4319]

@@ScottCarlson-cz7wj Thanks for watching, man! ✌️👍 Keeping things simple is the way to go.

[@leschatsont9vies]

there's ticks, spider and more in dead leaves, and fongus, fire keep animals away !

[@vanwhalen3719]

Very good advice

[@awayinthewilderness4319]

@@vanwhalen3719 Thanks for watching!

[@awayinthewilderness4319]

@@vanwhalen3719 I've learned the importance of insulation from the ground the hard way.

[@user-yu1zp2vu9x]

Thanks for sharing. I’ve used my green bag inside my black bag. I’ve never used the bivy. I’m afraid it would be like a rain suit and I would be sweating in the night.

[@awayinthewilderness4319]

@@user-yu1zp2vu9x I've slept in it quite a bit and have never had that problem. Possibly if you kept your head inside all night and was breathing in it and not allowing it to vent.

[@michaelkurz9067]

Just give me a thermal sleeping pad and a 110% wool blanket and I'm good

[@bparkerfool]

Hah. I Had the sleep system last weekend in the teens and it was cold as shit. It was right after it snowed and iced then melted so it was super moist . I woke up to my bivvy covered in frost along with my sleeping pad

[@stevec5576]

Over, under, & in, it’s simple .

[@EsyuDach]

I've never had any luck with lean-tos, especially not small ones. Winds change directions,especially during rain storms and then you can easily wake up with wet bedding/clothing. If it's cold and windy, that's dangerous So I just insist upon complete enclosure. Sometimes, tho that enclosure is just bug netting, cause it's hot weather. but I always have something over me, vs rain, dew, frost, snow. Packing away wet gear so you can keep hiking is a very bad idea and it can take a long time to dry stuff out especially if the day is overcast. It's very easy to shake rain off of the heat sheet bag.

[@user-yu1zp2vu9x]

And…….how dry does that bug net keep you when it is what you brought to keep over you? You know that you can fly a tarp over your bugnet just in case a storm does pop up unexpectedly. Plus if it is hot the tarp is shading.

[@EsyuDach]

@@user-yu1zp2vu9x can you not read? the bugnet "suits", i said, have something over them, vs rain. Nowadays, I use a couple of SOL heat sheets, assembled with tape and sleeping bag zippers., but I also have one of 2GoSystem's XL size reflective tyvek bivy, which can be unzipped to lay flat as a canopy.

[@davidturner3014]

I had this dream... There was this four-post bed with a canopy, and mosquito netting, and Egyptian cotton sheets, and a duvet... Just like in a vacation paradise where they pay an arm and a leg for... That some would give a really lot for... And no one knew where it was but God... A place where a sad princess would sleep, because the prince would rather be a "troop". Or some sort of "Fern Gulley Destroyer", never coming to awake her with a kiss.

[@OutlawCamper]

Another great video from you, my man. I really appreciate what you're doing and I hope you keep up the good work. As an aside, don't trust the weather forecast! Past week, ours has been 20°F and no precipitation, but its snowed all day, every day and night and the temperature never got above 0°F. So, there's that.

[@awayinthewilderness4319]

@@OutlawCamper Very true. I use mainly to get an idea.