I’m excited to see more consumer products being analyzed by Monro and Associates. Love the content.
@Urgelt3 жыл бұрын
This is a good expansion of subject matter for your channel. Interesting point about the quality of automobiles. It's true - we obsess over panel gaps on a car you'd need a micrometer to detect, yet we tolerate crap quality in even the most expensive consumer refrigerators. On that Sub-Zero fridge, the sidewall is damn near as thin as foil. No resistance to a bump whatsoever. The plastic trays on the Frigidaire *will* break during use. A nasty burr coming off a fastener where hands will go - unconscionable, really. I'll enjoy seeing what else you can discover about these products as you tear them down.
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Urgelt! We always appreciate your feedback. cheers.
@fabreezethefaintinggoat54843 жыл бұрын
Yeah expensive appliances ...
@dr-k16673 жыл бұрын
This channel is the the wake up call for consumers that Consumer Reports use to be relied upon to deliver. It's exciting to see more than just cars here, because what you spend your money on, should be worth what you spent.
@markplott48203 жыл бұрын
no one Reads CONSUMER FRAUD anymore. they are BIASED.
@linster2493 жыл бұрын
Consumer Reports has only counted cupholders for a long time
@Lysander-Spooner3 жыл бұрын
@@linster249 And they often get the count wrong.
@nerdfulthings46703 жыл бұрын
Yes, I remember when they did extensive testing. Then an announcement that models change so often there is no time to test and publish. Now you can only hope the frequency of repair, etc is accurate. Seemed to be for my vehicles.
@nerdfulthings46703 жыл бұрын
@@linster249 I remember in the 70's or 80's them de-rating a car because the the gas filler was hard to use, the seats not easy to adjust and the like. A better rated car had lots of black dots for the engine and transmission, while the former hat all good mechanical rating.
@necrojoe3 жыл бұрын
The $2900 is already 4x as much as we paid for our last fridge, and that felt like a lot. :)
@skenzyme813 жыл бұрын
I wondered, “Why not use proper wooden crates?” So I looked it up: A proper 48 x 48 x 80" heavy duty wooden crate from Uline starts at $820. Their 84 x 48 x 48" standard crate is $465. The crates alone weigh 297 lbs and 200 lbs, respectively. The weight capacity of either is crazy overkill (they allow STACKING). So that’s why no wooden crates. Maybe such crates could be reused, but now you’ve doubled the truckloads. 🤷♂️
@d75883 жыл бұрын
with lumber prices these days, its higher than usual.
@jbbuzzable3 жыл бұрын
No matter how well you package a product, poor handling can still damage it. The sturdier the packaging. the more people think that they handle it carelessly.
@ShotGunner56093 жыл бұрын
The weight has hardly anything to do with it. A standard semi can carry 45-53,000 pounds of freight with a 53 foot trailer. They are not gonna double stack these. A trailer full of these is probably 25,000 pounds. Plus truck and trailer. Weight really only matters in air freight. Otherwise the cost of shipping for the company hardly changes. A trailer full is a trailer full.
@pipublisher3 жыл бұрын
@@jbbuzzable You could be on to something....Bosch appliances have the worst packaging ever forcing you to treat them with care
@echtogammut3 жыл бұрын
Even custom cardboard boxes are a lot more expensive than most consumers realize. Depending on production volume and origination you can have products where the box is more expensive than the product. There have been many times where I ordered something and I was more impressed with the diecutter than the object shipped in it.
@stevehockey43 жыл бұрын
Love this new direction. Could really see Munro grow to rival Consumer reports as a completely unpaid and unbiased consumer advocate. Keep up the great brainstorming and I cant wait to see these teardowns and analysis.
@burkiwa3 жыл бұрын
I encourage you to continue the type of content. Love the EV stuff, but this is just a interesting and important to the public.
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill! More to come.
@StoianAtanasov3 жыл бұрын
Wow guys, more please. I was never interested in a fridge this much. I want to see what you got!
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Stoyan.
@virgilwhetsel52893 жыл бұрын
Please use a thermal imaging camera when you pull open the freezer drawers. I anticipate that you will see a significant amount of the cold air fall out of the Sub-Zero basket as compared to the Frigidaire. The heat introduced by the warm air that flows in to replace the cold air that fell out will require more cooling to recover. I'd like to know how much. Also, please clarify if these units have separate evaporators for the refrigerator and freezer sections, are they inverter driven compressors, does either actually have completely separate refrigeration circuits, each with it's own compressor? How do they defrost? (any reversing valves?) What refrigerant is used? (I asked this same question about the HP system in the Model Y and had to find out from a different source that the refrigerant in Model Y is 1234yf and not 134A.) Those of us in the market for a new refrigerator are going to be watching very closely. My 1997 Frigidaire has had a new ice maker, a new defrost element and new water dispenser switch cover and is still clicking along but..... I did a lot of service work in my time and at seventy three, It's not as easy as it once was.
@pasad3353 жыл бұрын
Air has so little heat capacity relative to the food in the freezer that losing that air makes little difference. Keeping your fridge and freezer full of something, even just water or ice, is the best thing for efficiency. I've currently got a Bosch unit with true dual circuits, inverter driven, and it's amazingly quiet and efficient.
@Phoen1x8833 жыл бұрын
They could maybe put some sheets of paper up to visualize the cold air loss, but as the other guy says, the specific heat of air is hilariously low compared to what you're actually trying to keep cold.
@whattheschmidt3 жыл бұрын
@@pasad335 yep, and if you have say a 'drink fridge' or 'fridge up north' or something, keep a gallon or two of jugs of water for the thermal mass. Loading up an empty fridge does not work!
@pasad3353 жыл бұрын
@@whattheschmidt I will add however that if you live in an area with high humidity then the moisture you introduce into the fridge or freezer by opening the door does have a significant impact on the energy consumption. Thermal mass won't help you there either.
@owggarage7233 жыл бұрын
What a treat! More like this please! Sounds like Adam can't stay at a job long given how many he's had.🤣
@adamleech43363 жыл бұрын
💯 The truth sometimes hurts. 😂 let’s see how long Cory and Sandy keep me around!
@owggarage7233 жыл бұрын
I was just kidding, you brought many points to light about these products that I hadn't considered🤔. After considering my comment, it could be your employer's didn't value your opinion of their products and you moved to someone that would. I hope you have great success at Munro and Associates!
@adamleech43363 жыл бұрын
@@owggarage723 your comment is totally fine, so do not worry. It made me laugh pretty hard.
@GoCoyote3 жыл бұрын
@@adamleech4336 I agree with OWG Garage. I have worked with many companies that did not want feedback for improvement and optimizations. Now you get to apply your skills doing what you do best and love.
@dalerichardson72023 жыл бұрын
@@adamleech4336 As a former Bio-Rad product manager from long long ago, it was considered a career detriment if you stayed at a company longer than 2-3 years. Why? Because you receive so many calls from headhunters offering 20-30% raises if you were halfway good, and if you weren't getting those calls, then what's wrong with you?
@jamesl1979993 жыл бұрын
Definitely still would watch these consumer videos. Interested in all the stuff you do.
@UnipornFrumm3 жыл бұрын
I like this video. Fridges are important machines,everyone has one.
@markplott48203 жыл бұрын
I have Two Fridges , one LG and one Samsung , both are a DECADE old and still kicking , cooling capacity is intact. I will never buy "American" Consumer Appliances again.
@Lysander-Spooner3 жыл бұрын
@@markplott4820 Reasons?
@markplott48203 жыл бұрын
@@Lysander-Spooner - the KOREAN and JAPANESE brands are SUPERIOR to anything by American Consumer OEM's, and I dont have to spend 10k on a Commerical fridge. also, I need two to store the FISH I catch During non Commerical fishing season, I catch COD, Salmon Halibut and Trout.
@bobo-cc1xw3 жыл бұрын
Commenting for the algorithm. I like the series and it works well with 2 presenters to give differing opinions
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
thanks bobo!
@michaelg6593 жыл бұрын
I almost didn't click on this because "what do I care about refrigerators?" but I'm glad I did. It helps put car build into perspective and it is interesting in its own right.
@nuggetsyl3 жыл бұрын
I love the direction Monroe and associates went in with this video. I am really looking forward to seeing more breakdowns of products like this.
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thank you! more to come.
@noahmospan56603 жыл бұрын
Love this stuff, a more related Consumer Reports. I happened to be in the market for a fridge, so thank you.
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for tuning-in Noah!
@j4k3br4k33 жыл бұрын
That's what I was thinking, a REAL consumer reports that isnt just a walking ad.
@JW-19803 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. I couldn't stop watching, so interesting!
@Gojoe1073 жыл бұрын
I can't believe how interesting this is. Sometimes I'm even tempted to think about switching away from my IT engineering career!
@krisvandermeulen2533 жыл бұрын
I thought 'ah a fridge...' but there is always more than meets the eye
@stevegarrett56453 жыл бұрын
You can’t critique the door alignment until the units have been leveled properly. Even if your floor is flat these two items are still sitting on the package material and this could easily cause the misalignment in the doors and access panels. (Used to work with furniture that was shipped like this).
@pablopicaro76493 жыл бұрын
LOL they shouldn't be so damn flimsy that they go out of square! maybe without being level door wont self close, but the cabinet should be quite rigid even a cheap one.
@debl99573 жыл бұрын
Different kind of vid for Munro - I like it!! Adam is the kind of workmate who'd get on my nerves after a while.
@gregfredericks52013 жыл бұрын
Wow Cory, thanks for an insight to refrigerators!
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Any time!
@xyz123345678983 жыл бұрын
Love the series, Adam seems humble and very knowledgeable. Please keep it coming!
@shazam62743 жыл бұрын
Not so much, seems like an arrogant, narcissistic hipster so far.
@russmusselman9623 жыл бұрын
Haha are you Adam?
@lobotomite32483 жыл бұрын
I like Adam. Munro is full of talent
@shazam62743 жыл бұрын
Not so much, seems like an arrogant, narcissistic hipster so far.
@ikocheratcr3 жыл бұрын
I really like that you go into the packaging, not only on the protection, but if it is recyclable or not, waste generation. I hope this series goes super well on YT, so later down the road you can tackle other appliances like washing machine, dryer, oven, etc; all of those items everybody basically needs to buy or maybe nice to have.
@kurtzxcvb34813 жыл бұрын
The funny part is that we got the old crappy fridge from my grandparents when they moved into their new house it was a stainless steel GE it's about 20 years old now and brand new Sub-Zero has had to been worked on four times since then the crappy one that came with the house they bought still working strong
@b48045143 жыл бұрын
The problem with the old GE is it uses 4 new fridges worth of power. I was shocked at the amount of power these old units use when i replaced mine The power company took it away and gave me $100 bucks.
@kurtzxcvb34813 жыл бұрын
Except your dad to buy for frigidaires at the cost of $2,800 a piece my old refrigerator probably just cost me an extra $30 a year in electricity if that only pay $0.08 per kilowatt-hour
@TWFydGlu3 жыл бұрын
Surviver bias. Only the good units survived to be old.
@pablopicaro76493 жыл бұрын
Yep I have a 25 year old and 23 year old fridges that work fine with just a few repairs over those decades.
@theadvocate46983 жыл бұрын
@@pablopicaro7649 23 years on mine and 75$ for repair (done it myself!)...
@wolfejar3 жыл бұрын
8:17 😂🤣😂🤣 I love it. Please keep these videos along with the uncut mishaps in the videos. It makes the videos feel genuine and entertaining to watch.
@cybertruckingcampering47873 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the expanded content. One observation, I feel objectivity would be an essential trait when evaluating products at Monroe, Adam seems to have developed some biases related to “Far East products”
@mark484303 жыл бұрын
Adam sounds like every smart engineer I've managed over the years. Great to have on the team, but the flip side is that they often lack the verbal filters necessary to get along in corporate America (or make KZbin videos). I'd give him some time. Making your first video like this is stressful. I've done it. If he's really smart he'll watch his performance and figure it out.
@xxwookey3 жыл бұрын
@@mark48430 Remembering not to mention your biases obviously in public is not quite the same as not having them :-)
@ihurtyourbrain36852 жыл бұрын
Everybody is biased and it's a lot more valuable to a listener or viewer if the bias is not hidden or manipulated in the first place. You can simply factor that bias into your own perspective.
@phugoidmode96833 жыл бұрын
Great content. Keep it coming. Hopefully Adam will stick around.
@JamesUKE923 жыл бұрын
From the sounds of it he’s nomadic with his workplaces
@shazam62743 жыл бұрын
Without an attitude change, probably not.
@JulianFoley3 жыл бұрын
A brilliant concept for a series. This could be a gamechanger in the quality of consumer goods.
@V10PDTDI3 жыл бұрын
Love any tear down of any product. Panel gaps anyone !
@gth0423 жыл бұрын
"Fearless Leader", niiice! At some point in this delightful series, I hope some efficiency issues are noted with the so-called French door design. For example, a long-IR look whilst opening that ridiculous freezer could give a visual impression of the convection losses. Another fun one is the total door-seal area and the barbaric methods to defrost. ...Thank you for sharing what you do. Oh, please don't forget power factor and actual/billed "KWh" when you do get to that part.
@EntirelyHonest3 жыл бұрын
I feel like OCD is a requirement to work at Munro and Associates, and I don't hate it :P
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Great point!
@ShumaBot3 жыл бұрын
I've been hoping for this kind of coverage for a while. Cars get wall to wall coverage since they're so cool, but getting the same story for appliances is a rarity.
@AFCFWA3 жыл бұрын
Munro and Associates taking up the mantle of Consumer Reports.
@markplott48203 жыл бұрын
CR is a FRAUD however.
@JW773 жыл бұрын
This is interesting. I've always wondered what the 20k fridges are about. I searched the internet forums and see many people say something like "my parents subzero lasted 45 years" but then if you read further down there will be some others say "yeah me too after replacing the compressor it's going strong after 30 years". And I was like WTF the compressor doesn't last? My grandma's old GE fridge could have lasted 40 years too if we had the compressor replaced. I personally don't care if the shelves are made of metal. If they are good plastic then I prefer them over metal baskets. We've all seen good sturdy plastic parts on cars. I also don't care If the front claddings are perfectly aligned. For me It's the performance that counts.
@jnc17713 жыл бұрын
If you are paying 10000 for a fridge you'd care about alignment. If a 500 cheap fridge made of mostly plastic and glass shelving can be aligned so can a 10000 one.
@Ryanstuff3 жыл бұрын
He didn't say subscribe! Sandy will never let him hear the end of it 😄
@Cor973 жыл бұрын
In this first episode I've got the feeling that the testers are somewhat biased against 'far east' and 'plastic'. I am looking forward to the actual testing and how the products really compare. How much better has the sub-zero to be to justify a 3 times higher price. Is there a business case to be made for either of these products?
@StevenBanks1233 жыл бұрын
Adam especially seems to come with some pre-judgement. Hope he’ll be objective.
@carmispicer94403 жыл бұрын
I hope Adam can find ways to state a hypothesis and then look at data. He seems like a hammer trying to make everything a nail at first impression. Sandy at least has a character and demeanor that you know he just wants the best. Hopefully we see that with Adam too. Otherwise he may be the kind of person that would make a good day crap just through attitude.
@axiomic3 жыл бұрын
Haha, us Munro regulars are brutal in our 'honesty-meter' personality assessments.. but it's true. We are cautious around corporate career types..
@davidhumeston52923 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that you guys don't edit out much stuff.. just roll with it...
@MarkXHolland3 жыл бұрын
Woah, uncharted territory! But I'm loving it!
@livefromhollywood1943 жыл бұрын
Just my 2 cents, Adam is a GREAT host, he gives off similar energy to Sandy.
@rodrigobejarano13493 жыл бұрын
I agree with the energy he gives off, unfortunately he has a very noticeable bias against products manufactured abroad. Impartiality is required in this job. Additionally, the difference in the price of the products to be compared must be taken into account; by treating such different priced items as similar, is like such as complaining about the finish of a Hyundai Elantra compared to the finish of a Lexus ES250
@justinmallaiz45493 жыл бұрын
I agree with above poster. Adam is unfortunately biased, when impartiality is required. This is the best part of Monroe : an honest inside look (at products that speak for themselves) before we jump to opinions please.
@kschleic90533 жыл бұрын
@@justinmallaiz4549 I didn't get any impression of bias... His point about co-location of engineers with manufacturing is valid, as was his point regarding the quality of the packaging.
@H-Yeti3 жыл бұрын
@@kschleic9053 what stands out to me is when he says “that’s just Far East stamping capability for ya”. To summarize an entire region’s manufacturing capability with a sample out of a single factory in Thailand is definitely biased...
@justinmallaiz45493 жыл бұрын
@@kschleic9053 It was obvious 0:17 seconds in before he even said a word
@johnclark51483 жыл бұрын
Fantastic consumer series! Please keep it up.
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
More to come!
@x_ph1l3 жыл бұрын
Nice to see consumer teardown series for a change! Thanks!
@StevenBanks1233 жыл бұрын
Sub Zero typically rates very low in reliability at Consumer Reports. Looking forward to Munro’s take.
@Czechbound3 жыл бұрын
CONSUMER SERIES : This was really FANTASTIC, and will have a much broader audience I think. Looking forward to seeing how these things rate. I think we'll all PICK UP TIPS on what to look for WHEN BUYING THINGS FOR OUR HOMES.
@flossing1o13 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this. Love the channel and it is awesome that you all are branching out on your channel to show more of what you guys do.
@LaurentVitalis3 жыл бұрын
I bought a Sub-Zero, fully intergrated, with custom panels matching everything else in the kitchen. The engineering to adjust the panels on the doors is OUT OF THIS WORLD... Really well done. Truely a great product.
@LaurentVitalis3 жыл бұрын
Also, after 7 years, the SubZero is the only thing in my kitchen that still looks brand new (and did not need to be replaced).
@misteratoz3 жыл бұрын
Make a Monroe user buying recommendations guide!
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
we are considering it!
@tobybeat3 жыл бұрын
Yes please! Could you make it part of your website to drive traffic or something? I would gladly pay a bit to see if the brand that I'm buying from is making a solid product on the inside.
@misteratoz3 жыл бұрын
@@MunroLive I would pay for that.
@gth0423 жыл бұрын
@@MunroLive Please include the proper Scotch for watching.
@eidee3 жыл бұрын
Came for the EVs, stayed for the fridge reviews. Love it. Now the question is, will these companies actually do something about the defects you find? Wish I had some optimism left in the tank...
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Thanks eidee! we appreciate your patronage!
@j.m.59953 жыл бұрын
Hey those slight damages are a god send for us cheap folks who don't mind it if they knock a few dollars off
@Eric-xp1kl3 жыл бұрын
Cory, I’m still watching the video…this will be a great comparison. A few years ago we built hopefully our final house (#10 house) and put in Subzero & Wolf. When buying a Subzero the rep came and installed, aligned and cleaned. A much different experience vs our past multitude of Samsung’s, Whirlpool, etc. Now I’m hoping it last 40 years like one my Aunts has.
@eugeniustheodidactus88903 жыл бұрын
*Very cool!* Love Adam's funky Christmas socks;)
@markmaher6653 жыл бұрын
Really look forward to this. One issue I have with Consumer Reports appliance reviews is their general focus on FEATURES, (many of which I don’t care about) vs core functionality and especially durability. I think a buyers guide that focused on these elements would be very popular. Could even have that as a subscription service.
@jamesengland74613 жыл бұрын
$600 at Lowe's for me. The last one I bought was the same price and lasted me 22 years and we left it when we sold the house. Good enough for me!
@stipriausias3 жыл бұрын
never thought I am gonna look at a detailed fridge tear down on youtube and it's gonna be interesting for me XD
@butchbailey85653 жыл бұрын
Great expose.
@HylanderSB3 жыл бұрын
If Adam were a Boy Scout, he'd have a corner off his Totin' Chip. Don't cut towards yourself! LOL
@morkovija3 жыл бұрын
i thought they were being super nitpicky with the shipping damage on the first one, but that GASH on the second one hurt me =0
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Yea, it was bad, and the top access panel does not open.
@sandfly273 жыл бұрын
The other 50% is where it is at! Excited to see you dig into dishwashers, washing machines, fans and hvac
@2nd3rd1st3 жыл бұрын
This video is like when Marvel Studios had massive success with their Avengers movies they thought 'Fkuc it, let's make Guardians of the Galaxy!' :P
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
HAHA we try.
@kschleic90533 жыл бұрын
And guardians of the Galaxy turned out awesome:)
@jamesmoline44113 жыл бұрын
I have a 39 year old Subzero that continues to work flawlessly. I find them to be worth the money. And their customer service is extraordinary.
@jimmurphy53553 жыл бұрын
The Styrofoam from the top was not dinged on the front. You had the top backwards when you found the ding on the Styrofoam. I lean with damage at the factory before the Styrofoam was put in place.
@petrapatia63953 жыл бұрын
I was so sure I wouldn't stick around but by golly, y'all made refrigerators fascinating. Hats off.
@JW773 жыл бұрын
17:11 when I shifted my interest from motorcycles to cars, I was flabbergasted by the fit and finish of cars. Motorcycle parts are like art pieces compared to cars. The weld lines of frames, parting lines of cast parts, surface finish, etc are all far better on motorcycles than cars. I guess it's because motorcycle parts are more exposed instead of hidden behind some panels.
@markplott48203 жыл бұрын
MOTORCYCLES are a DEAD Industry , Electric ones are SUPERIOR and dont burn Fossil Fuels.
@none37633 жыл бұрын
Cory looks like he knows his way around a fridge.
@MarcAndreSurette3 жыл бұрын
Great idea on the consumer series! Love the idea and wow, how bad is that Sub-Zero for close to 4 times the price!
@ronniet72513 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love this! Thank you for the diversification and continued efforts in bringing so much value to everyone 👏
@sandfly273 жыл бұрын
This is excellent! Hvac needs to be next. It would be great to see you show the important benefits of heat pumps instead of fossil fuel heaters. What is the best compressor design? Is trane really worth the price? What about Goodman?
@Rouge_73 жыл бұрын
Thank you for starting this comparison of foreign manufacturer v US manufacturer build quality. Both Corey and Adam are highly respected people dealing with manufacturer build and quality control, showing expert observations of both expensive to the consumer must-have home products. I have recently purchased a microwave and refrigerator and wound up sending both items back to the place of purchase because of poor packaging quality control in that both showed damage to exterior packaging. I look forward to continued videos in this Consumer Series.
@00sean003 жыл бұрын
More content like this please! ❤️
@bakerpete25273 жыл бұрын
I'm real glad you are examining consumer products. The same rigor in construction should be applied to them as vehicles.
@OrganicStuff13 жыл бұрын
Holy new content ! I had a Electrolux vacuum back in the day it was great
@paulwujek52083 жыл бұрын
About the freezer shelves - grid vs plastic tub: having had had both the plastic tubs are preferable because the grids release all the chilled air out the bottom of the fridge while the tubs retain the cold air around the contents. The tubs mean the fridge has to do less work to return to temp after opening, and the contents are subjected to less warm air.
@axiomic3 жыл бұрын
My thoughts too. Plus all the ice fragments, etc. are contained in the bucket and do not fall out on the kitchen floor.. I think buckets are such a brilliant idea for fridge and freezer.
@gregcollins34043 жыл бұрын
So good to have content from some real engineers...
@ecdubytecdubyt3 жыл бұрын
Great series! Looks like a more intense and invasive version of Consumer Reports. Looking forward to more!
@MrGonzonator3 жыл бұрын
This left me cold.
@toronado4553 жыл бұрын
😂
@draco_27273 жыл бұрын
Never have I wanted to see a fridge teared down this bad 😂😂😂 Bring this new content Munro team 🙌 All jokes aside, this is another great insight into what we (consumers) should be on the look out for. And what will give us the best bang for your buck.
@glenmattson37653 жыл бұрын
I look forward to the comparison analysis and evaluation of these two refrigerators. It would be helpful to compare the service responses for the damages and any other things not meeting customer specifications. ??? I personally do not like how the bottomless drawers dump ALL of their freezing air on the floor every time you open the freezer. There is wasted energy each time you access the freezer. The Frigidaire at least has plastic tubs that help hold the sinking cold air from dropping out.
@ElDJReturn3 жыл бұрын
I agree @Glen Mattson. My first thought on the Sub Zero freezer drawer was how it must be a pain in the ass to clean if something spills in the freezer since there is nothing to contain a spill.
@dalerichardson72023 жыл бұрын
Great point about the immediate loss of cold air from the freezer! Munro should put in temperature monitors in the boxes and do a time series of temperature drops in the fridge and freezer compartments after opening the doors for 1 minute. That's a good proxy for energy efficiency.
@GoCoyote3 жыл бұрын
The embodied energy held by the air in the freezer area is actually quite small. It takes about 0.03 watt hours (30 milliwatt hours) of power to cool 5 cubic feet of air from 75ºF down to 0ºF. And if your freezer is full, it will contain much less air than it's rated volume. This will vary slightly by your home humidity levels, but not by much. I thought the same thing, but now that I own one, it is vastly more efficient than my old fridge.
@aaronbounds13363 жыл бұрын
This is sooooo much better than consumer reports and other review outlets. Keep it up! All kinds of products, please.
@lilliansteuben97933 жыл бұрын
Considering our fridge is missing two shelves and the ice machine clogs…. Cory we might need to use this data for an upgrade. Also benchmark buggies bc have 475 in the garage.
@JN-gc3jp3 жыл бұрын
Hi guys - great to see you sharing more of Munro’s expertise - as a retired Lean Six Sigma Master Black Belt the channel is music to my ears - re: plastic fridge parts, slightly dismissive comments seem a bit at odds with Munro’s consistent quest to replace metal with plastic or carbon fibre on EVs
@peterricker41773 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to viewing more on this series.
@josephaharon3 жыл бұрын
This is what I've been waiting for from you guys! I remember Sandy teasing this back during the model Y teardown
@mr-huggy3 жыл бұрын
That Sub Zero fridge/freezer at the cost of $10,000 is about what I paid for a brand new car for and that car looked better than the fridge. I like the idea of doing consumer products, going to be interesting to watch.
@yrj773 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely fantastic. There is so much free education from your videos. Businesses would do well to watch these videos.
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, Joel!
@ArrakisIndustries3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see some focus on Appliances, as a third generation Appliance Tech, I'm increasingly jaded with the units I come across, irregardless of the brand and price point. It'd be great if y'all could try and obtain some critical parts for each, so as to highlight the difference in customer service experiences as it relates to availability of parts/documentation. It's a key pain point for customers when they eventually need a technician, which in my experience averages out at 3-5 years for just about everything.
@FuzTheCat3 жыл бұрын
... regardless ... do you unpeel your bananas?
@danlucy19563 жыл бұрын
I have thoroughly enjoyed watching this channel for some time but as an appliance store owner for over 40 years this took it to another level. You could use some training on box removal.
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
agreed.
@pablopicaro76493 жыл бұрын
It is a BOX that gets cold inside. Any more than about US$900 your just stroking your own ego spending more money. (for residential category).
@MunroLive3 жыл бұрын
Great point Pablo. We are going to dig into the guts of the Sub-Zero to truly see if they put the Money into the design. thanks for watching!
@DKWhipple3 жыл бұрын
Gotta agree... some functionality is worth a few bucks, possibly serviceability, and efficiency. Don't most homeowners move every 5-7yrs??
@dogbreath69743 жыл бұрын
I think Cory got it right on the Frigidaire damage being caused by production, the dent looks like it was caused from the front, hence the spike at the top, whereas the packaging was hit from the top and almost doesn't line up with each other.
@sonyajones3 жыл бұрын
Definitely looking forward to more shows like this! Thank you.
@ah2448953 жыл бұрын
This is awesome. Looks like a really fun series to watch. Now you have opened the door to testing Bosch and other refrigerators for an ultimate showdown.
@sp00l3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff! Keep it up - This is just next-level unboxings! New meta.
@ElDJReturn3 жыл бұрын
OMG! This is awesome! I'm so happy to see Munro do a Consumer Series because I have always wanted to see more of your other works. Now just to see you do an Aerospace series?
@adaption1963 жыл бұрын
I'm a test engineer and I do unboxing on units like this all the time, I love this shit.
@s1nb4d593 жыл бұрын
fantastic guys,nice to see you tear down a different product for a fresh view on what you guys do.
@naeem_bari3 жыл бұрын
First off, thanks for this - definitely appreciate this consumer teardown, really love it. Secondly, lol, it didn't take long for the new guy's arrogant disdain for "far east manufacturing" to be punctured 🤣. I have the misfortune of owning a new Sub-zero fridge and a new Wolf microwave (Wolf is owned by Sub-zero). I say misfortune because they are crap. The microwave had to be serviced three times before it finally worked reliably. The fridge doesn't come with a water dispenser (seriously, a $12K fridge that doesn't have a water dispenser), and you need to pay over a grand to get it. And the water dispenser has *never* worked properly. They changed everything on the damn thing - including the entire front door - and it still does dispense water reliably (for some reason it has a finicky motorized cover over the dispenser that often does not open properly, causing water to go everywhere). The ice dispenser gets jammed a lot as well. My old stainless steel Whirlpool, which cost $1500 20 years ago, still works like a champ. If this sub-zero had not come with the house, I would never have wasted the money on it. Get a Samsung or LG instead, I think.
@brad75713 жыл бұрын
Your Wolf microwave is actually manufactured by Samsung. They make it for Wolf, and Samsung owns the patent for the drawer design. I own the same one. Here is a tip - once every few months get on your hands and knees and clean the top inside of the unit. Since they are mounted so low - they get really dirty - and that will cause it to malfunction. Repair guy explained it to me. After that we haven't really had an issue with it. My sub zero has a glass door - so I got a nice carafe for my RO water.
@naeem_bari3 жыл бұрын
@@brad7571 thanks for the tips, much obliged!
@stephenkyu3 жыл бұрын
@@brad7571 It is made by Sharp, not Samsung.
@naeem_bari3 жыл бұрын
@@stephenkyu Thanks. either way, the name plate says Wolf, so we have to judge it that way. I can see Sharp (or Samsung) not giving their best engineering to a competitor.
@brad75713 жыл бұрын
@@stephenkyu You are correct! My bad.
@patriciacorahharter54473 жыл бұрын
great job guys, didn't miss Sandy at all, um, well a little.
@ToddGotsch3 жыл бұрын
Looking forward to these new videos. Based on how unreliable modern appliances have become I am sure it will be entertaining and sad. I am sure some executives are getting a bit nervous.
@dranthonyv54753 жыл бұрын
Consumer Reports reviews Fridges, Cars etc. CR’s Oct ‘21 issue scores Chevy Bolt an 82 & the Bolt EUV a 76. I didn’t find any mention of recalls, fire warnings etc. Thanks to ML & KZbin, I think I see how I can save money, trees and space on my magazine rack.
@Prositon13 жыл бұрын
Not enjoying that they disagree a lot…. The guy in the red polo seems pretty competitive. Still a great format. Would love to see sandy and the black shirt Consultant. Not trying to disrespect anyone.
@richardnedbalek19683 жыл бұрын
“Honey, grab me a cold one from the ‘fridge!” “Can’t, dear. Someone tore our ‘fridge apart!” 🤣
@markplott48203 жыл бұрын
I still want a Fridge than can Dispence 12oz cans like a Vending machine.
@kelvynbettridge3 жыл бұрын
Love the new series. Q. Should fit and finish only be assessed after leveling on solid ground?
@PathosBedlam3 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see which fridge gets colder for the least power. Then to see which one has the best compressor so you can tell which one would work for longer at the least lifetime cost. I like the addition of different tear-downs to the channel. It would be interesting if you did a comparison and tear-down of a bunch of top tier solar panels so people know which ones offer the best watt per dollar. As well as which one is most likely to last the longest with the fewest issues. Keep Up the Great Work Everyone.