Kalam And Gabz Questioning Muslim Claims. Shamsi Gives Explanation | Speakers Corner

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@adelbelaifa5492
@adelbelaifa5492 7 жыл бұрын
First time watching this gentleman called Shamsi. Mashallah for his knowledge in Islam!
@amir123786
@amir123786 6 жыл бұрын
Shamsi needs bigger platforms. He speaks from ilm
@bayramozkaya5043
@bayramozkaya5043 5 жыл бұрын
Selamünaleyküm brother Amir
@alhajihassan7477
@alhajihassan7477 4 жыл бұрын
Shamsi may Allah guide you.
@comedownmachine4682
@comedownmachine4682 4 жыл бұрын
his youtube channel dus dawah
@JennaKovacs
@JennaKovacs 6 жыл бұрын
Bless you brother shamsi.. Always on point ❤❤
@baderaf1
@baderaf1 5 жыл бұрын
@KHALID OUTARI stop trying to slide in her DM's
@theman8070
@theman8070 3 жыл бұрын
Like what
@KingdomOrDieTrying
@KingdomOrDieTrying 3 жыл бұрын
Nope. Sadly he pulls up the oldest discrepancy the old testament like its news. It's explained away with common sense.
@sammyrahman6341
@sammyrahman6341 7 жыл бұрын
My brudda Shamsi stands like a lion, showing no fear..
@rapaelkorine1790
@rapaelkorine1790 7 жыл бұрын
Br shamshe
@sammyrahman6341
@sammyrahman6341 7 жыл бұрын
Rapael korine say that to his face if you want a 1-2 combo
@sammyrahman6341
@sammyrahman6341 7 жыл бұрын
Isaac NOT Ishmael! Lol my man is a boxer.. unless you can handle yourself boy, then be quiet
@kingking-yb2in
@kingking-yb2in 7 жыл бұрын
Sammy Santana ALL HE SAID IS LIES AND YOU KNOW THAT BUT HEY THERE IS SOMETHING CALL TAQQIYA
@sammyrahman6341
@sammyrahman6341 7 жыл бұрын
king king so there's black betterment building and there's kemets.. pick one! Don't be a snake like kalarrrm
@teefx5681
@teefx5681 7 жыл бұрын
Shamsi was bang on point
@rapaelkorine1790
@rapaelkorine1790 7 жыл бұрын
What point was that?
@rapaelkorine1790
@rapaelkorine1790 7 жыл бұрын
What point was that?
@hishamradwan7058
@hishamradwan7058 6 жыл бұрын
sal john ha?? Haha no need to use big letters just come forward with your proof and verses so we can reply..shouting won't get you anywhere Kidda
@hishamradwan7058
@hishamradwan7058 6 жыл бұрын
sal john again post it for me cause I read it and have no idea what your talking about so plz enlighten me , cause there's no mention anywhere of Jinn writing anything down we do have they would listen to the Quran? And we in Islam believe the Jinn are an older race then us, and from what was sent we have Jinn who are muslim christian whatever u want they got it like us..So again plz Post it argument with PROOF don't say it's there cause I read it and I must be blind so show me good sir
@hishamradwan7058
@hishamradwan7058 6 жыл бұрын
sal john I'm sorry I don't understand your argument and how you read it that way, the verses are ALLAH telling us what the discussion the Jinn had since we as humans cannot hear it, the same way Allah says *this tribe said this* or the disbelievers said that in your logic does that mean the disbelievers wrote the Quran ? Cause I'm confused on your argument and I don't think you Yourself read the whole surah
@mikerevs34
@mikerevs34 6 жыл бұрын
If Kalam can't even get the meaning of a couple of BASIC verses,from the Qur'an, right, re; "if you are in doubt ask the people of the book", then who cares what he has to say on anything else. Even when the verses wete explained to him he didn't acknowledge his error, he just raced on to his next mistake. You can't trust a man like that. Well done Shamsi. Loving your style, knowledge and intelligence for the sake of Allah SWT. Jazak Allahu Firdaus May Allah SWT guide us all.
@deanblack4957
@deanblack4957 5 жыл бұрын
mikerevs34 that’s very well said and a point that a lot of people would have go over there head!!. Well done
@deanblack4957
@deanblack4957 4 жыл бұрын
Truth seeker-Leard OfTheFamily Matturi-LawfuL ReBeL what lol???.
@In3inity
@In3inity 10 ай бұрын
it was a false explanation, shamsi was talking nonsense
@GEEKSYFE
@GEEKSYFE 7 жыл бұрын
The oldest Manuscript of the Torah is 1000 years after Moses pbuh. So Gabz what are you talking about ?? You have ZERO Manuscript.
@khalidmohammed2970
@khalidmohammed2970 7 жыл бұрын
The torah isn't reliable don't talk about manuscripts when you don't have a manuscript that isn't anywhere near the time of moses you idiot
@khalidmohammed2970
@khalidmohammed2970 7 жыл бұрын
Uthman was the prophets companions by the time he complied it there were hundreds of thousands of people in the arabian peninsular that knew the quran from cover to cover had he made a mistake in the quran he would have been corrected and by the way he complied it few years after muhammad and why are you dodging the question why is the oldest manuscript a thousand years after moses and tell me how can a book that was written a thousand years after moses be reliable
@jaysaviod9581
@jaysaviod9581 7 жыл бұрын
your prophet is a bloody kiddy fiddler..bloody fake self proclaimed prophet, may shit and piss be upon him for eternity!
@tdsdave
@tdsdave 7 жыл бұрын
Khalid Uthman compiled the Quran according the the same hadith because he feared it would be lost because so many of those who could recite it were killed. So your hundreds of thousands narrative is completely at odds with the account. You don't even have a full version of the Quran from the Uthman era anyway, your oldest full Quran dates from about 100+ years after Mo died, and its simply propaganda or a delusion that can make you think the version you have to day is "original" , even surviving early fragments lack diacritical marks and more, such that its modern meaning is added and not present in what we can see of the earliest texts.
@GEEKSYFE
@GEEKSYFE 7 жыл бұрын
Jews at the time of Moses pbuh should follow the Torah.
@MurdocK786
@MurdocK786 7 жыл бұрын
Br Shamsi schooled these fools Subhan’Allah
@yaodiniii790
@yaodiniii790 6 жыл бұрын
He weren't saying nothing. How can the Arab world school Kemet..
@denohart4929
@denohart4929 Жыл бұрын
@@yaodiniii790 because Kemet got wiped out, it was a weak civilization that worshipped the Sun, true knowledge is with the Quran and Sunnah as Islam is worldwide now and people are reverting to Islam in large Quantities just like how Allah mentioned will happen…
@Wa7edWisikh
@Wa7edWisikh 7 жыл бұрын
Brother Shamsi is beast!!
@otaigbestanley3052
@otaigbestanley3052 7 жыл бұрын
shamsi is a dumb fuck
@happyvalley8800
@happyvalley8800 7 жыл бұрын
Wa7ed Wa7ish I can't understand what he is saying most of the time. It's just stuttering babble.
@Wa7edWisikh
@Wa7edWisikh 7 жыл бұрын
Happy Valley sorry to hear that, they have English classes that would help you with your not understanding problem.
@happyvalley8800
@happyvalley8800 7 жыл бұрын
Wa7ed Wa7ish I think that you will find that it is the waste of space, stuttering, mumbling Shamsi that needs English lessons. Speech therapy would also be useful for him.
@Wa7edWisikh
@Wa7edWisikh 7 жыл бұрын
Happy Valley that's your opinion, or maybe you are the one that needs the English lessons.
@halim6150
@halim6150 7 жыл бұрын
Wallah if you read the comments from christians/pagans you'll facepalm. They're rooting against Shamsi just like blind football supporters. And on the Day of Judgement the same people will wonder why they hadn't been guided. You guys are dishonest. The whole video is a sincere muslim teaching his religion to a troll who just wants to argue forever no matter the answer given to him.
@georgewilson3110
@georgewilson3110 5 жыл бұрын
you follow a delusion lol. Jeusus is the son of God only through him can you know God. u trust a man who told you that you cannot know God, who thought he was demon possed who had sex with a 9 yr old, thats face palm.
@03mIbrahim1
@03mIbrahim1 5 жыл бұрын
@@georgewilson3110 embarrassing man.
@georgewilson3110
@georgewilson3110 5 жыл бұрын
@@03mIbrahim1 yh it is embarrasing. i am not making it up. pray you find God hee sent his son to save
@03mIbrahim1
@03mIbrahim1 5 жыл бұрын
@@georgewilson3110 there is no difference between you and polygamies..
@georgewilson3110
@georgewilson3110 5 жыл бұрын
@@03mIbrahim1 there is, and you got the word wrong. Polygamy is a sin though One wife one husband anything outside of this and divorce as Christ the son of God said is hardness of heart and not the way it was from the beginning mattew 7-9.the difference is we follow the one true God who sent his son Yeshua, you follow a man who fabricated a delusion and and put words in the mouths of propehts . propehecised in a different name than the one God woudl send propehet in "Iam" Exodus 3:14 Yahweh. and denied who the son was what he did and who he is. he thought was demon possesed. In Deuteronomy 18.18. who do you think this prophet is, the son of God word word of God in the flesh, from the father ..an Israelite.. of whom God said this is my son and his son said you know can only know the father through him the prefect example tried and tested stone of isiah, Emmanual (God with us)isiah 7.14 the one who will sanctify the world and save all those who take refuge in him and who death and resserection will save Isisah 53 (suffereign servant) the one who fullfilled the law. or a man who thought he was demon possesed who said you couldn't know God and used his fabricated heaven to get ppl to kill for him. who changed tried corruptig the message of the torah put words int he propehts mouts. commitied acts similar of the antichrist t pray you wake up. who ;legacy is pagan rituals Christ propphecised against and who has you crushing ppl to death in stampeded to kiss a black rock that your haddetehs says has a punisehd angel inside. face palm. anbd could go on pray you wake up!
@seekforjannah2432
@seekforjannah2432 7 жыл бұрын
Big up brother shamsi
@nawarsaleh2476
@nawarsaleh2476 7 жыл бұрын
dick head... be polite. You don't have to insult, discuss instead. Btw, he's an Amazigh - Berber, an Algerian. They're hot blooded people. In addition, there's no way of inferring from this video if he's an "extremist".
@markhall4778
@markhall4778 6 жыл бұрын
lets unite to truth Sahih Bukhari (6:60:79) (alt link) - Two people guilty of illegal intercourse are brought to Muhammad, who orders them both stoned to death. Apparently their act was out of love, since the verse records the man as trying to shield the woman from the stones. Sahih Bukhari (83:37) - Adultery is one of three justifications for killing a person, according to Muhammad. Sahih Muslim (17:4192) - This hadith clarifies the different penalties for adultery (when the subjects are married), and fornication (when they are not): "in case of married (persons) there is (a punishment) of one hundred lashes and then stoning (to death). And in case of unmarried persons, (the punishment) is one hundred lashes and exile for one year" (See also 17:4191) Sahih Muslim (17:4196) - A married man confesses to adultery. Muhammad orders him planted in the ground and pelted with stones. According to the passage, the first several stones caused such pain that he tried to escape and had to be dragged back. Sahih Muslim (17:4206) - A woman who became pregnant confesses to Muhammad that she is guilty of adultery. Muhammad allows her to have the child, then has her stoned. The description is graphic: "Khalid b Walid came forward with a stone which he flung at her head and there spurted blood on the face of Khalid and so he abused her." Sahih Muslim (17:4209) - A woman confesses adultery and is stoned to death on Muhammad's order. Ibn Ishaq (970) - "The adulterer must be stoned." These words were a part of Muhammad's farewell address to his people on the occasion of his final pilgrimage to Mecca. Islamic Law - "The stone shall not be so big so as to kill the person by one or two strikes, neither shall it be so small that it cannot be called a stone" The victim is intended to suffer.
@meone2867
@meone2867 6 жыл бұрын
Regardless of religion you can see who is humble and who is not,I may be wrong and I could be very Judgmental in saying no Muslim in these debates look like there kind or even friendly in anyway.In all honesty they should simply say they have absolute disrespect for any other teaching than theirs and just leave it at that.simples
@ishmaelsali2634
@ishmaelsali2634 6 жыл бұрын
lets unite of the truth truth loool why would god's word speak to the pagans and give the pagans orders.
@fatimam5484
@fatimam5484 7 жыл бұрын
Allah bless Shamsi full of knowledge Masha Allah, some people can't handle him because they can't handle truth.
@easyak
@easyak 7 жыл бұрын
King shamshi too much respect to this brother!!!
@Grasseatereu
@Grasseatereu 4 жыл бұрын
@Jesus Or Muhammad actually, you sir are directly talked to in the quran, jesus will not be on your side when he returns.
@revanvonheaven8270
@revanvonheaven8270 4 жыл бұрын
@@Grasseatereu Why wouldn't he be you and Jews are self righteus.
@Grasseatereu
@Grasseatereu 4 жыл бұрын
@@revanvonheaven8270 Well, I did not say that, I am not self rightous, I am refering to what Jesus Will say according to the scriptures. But then again, even if if neglect what the God says in the quran, then you must see that christians as a whole genneraly are not close to doing what was told by jesus in the bible.. - very few places he is cited saying something directly and those places most people seem to ignore. It has nothing to do with being self rightous, it is about being honest to others and yourself.. the Quran proves itself over and over the word of Allah, you should read it and then you can allow yourself to not agree out of feeling its not truth, but saying someone is wrong out of lack of knowledge is the worst. you cant go to a scientist and telll him everything you teach is wrong, if you did not care to read what he says, and sit down and at least argue why its wrong. May God give us all guidance.
@hasansami1099
@hasansami1099 4 жыл бұрын
@Jesus Or Muhammad Jesus will then say: Get away from me you evil doers Because you worshipped him besides God Almighty He is not your God! The Father (The All Mighty) (Allah) is ! The one and only God!
@KingdomOrDieTrying
@KingdomOrDieTrying 3 жыл бұрын
Respect for lies and misinformation? Your love for the brother blinds you to the nonsense he spits....sadly
@battalionlead4128
@battalionlead4128 5 жыл бұрын
Shamsi is the unsung hero of the park mashallah
@KingdomOfBoxing
@KingdomOfBoxing 7 жыл бұрын
Kalam getting schooled yet again
@MegaTrueTalk
@MegaTrueTalk 7 жыл бұрын
The Other Way Round.
@jbsounds3236
@jbsounds3236 7 жыл бұрын
No schooling here mate soz kalam smart just mention one an two things then he just listens to man chat bare waffle. I do respect shamsi tho his bless
@KingdomOfBoxing
@KingdomOfBoxing 7 жыл бұрын
Kalam got smashed so bad he almost bust out into tears haha kemet fools are all blind followers who don't even know what a criteria is😂 rip kemet it was good while it lasted but all false hood will perish when truth is spoken well done brother shami
@KingdomOfBoxing
@KingdomOfBoxing 7 жыл бұрын
S kay I feel sorry for you're mother😂
@KingdomOfBoxing
@KingdomOfBoxing 7 жыл бұрын
S kay how can those failures be Muslims when Muslims are the highest in giving to charity? What a dumb ass you think they rob people's property then give there money to charity 😂 your a joke I bodied you so many times now
6 жыл бұрын
Tbaraqallah khouia Chamsi. Shamsi really knows his stuff. He stands firm because his convictions are based on reason and logic. Bless.
@BH-rz2ye
@BH-rz2ye 7 жыл бұрын
This SNAKE should be getting no time from any1 in the park. #kalamisasnake
@modsad4616
@modsad4616 7 жыл бұрын
Just facts the misionaries do that, not Be shamsi
@abuaishah340
@abuaishah340 6 жыл бұрын
sal john I've seen dumb people but you're altogether on a different level. I think it's futile to even explain it to you with such a high IQ
@KingdomOrDieTrying
@KingdomOrDieTrying 3 жыл бұрын
Shamsi doesn't know what he is talking about and makes it up on the spot. If he gets proved wrong he runs
@idilcimen1157
@idilcimen1157 5 жыл бұрын
May Allah guide this man. He said May peace be upon him about our prophet so I really hope Allah guides him for that respect he showed for him.
@Wenutz
@Wenutz 7 жыл бұрын
3:15 . Shamsi talks about Rabbi Tovia
@teefx5681
@teefx5681 7 жыл бұрын
Wenutz what wrong with Tovia singer. Just want to know
@khalidmohammed2970
@khalidmohammed2970 7 жыл бұрын
rabbi tovia knows more about the torah more than the 'so called' hebrew Israelite
@irfanlokhandwala4823
@irfanlokhandwala4823 7 жыл бұрын
This fool Kalam is a clear hypocrite this namus topic he has argued with adnan rashid in the past and adnan rashid refuted his claims with clear explanation but still he kalam comes back with the same claim Kalam s clear agenda is to come up with such claims and create doubts in people s minds
@lotsofqurans
@lotsofqurans 7 жыл бұрын
namus isnt even Hebrew. Its Greek and doesnt refer to an angel. so whats waraqa doing with a greek word when he is translating Hebrew?
@halim6150
@halim6150 7 жыл бұрын
He just plays, he likes to argue and he doesn't want to find the truth.
@irfanlokhandwala4823
@irfanlokhandwala4823 5 жыл бұрын
jxcess3891 come out of this hate that u have to use such words and be sincere and respect islam get to know it from correct sources and then make ur opinion It’s your loss if u don’t understand Islam Islam will win without you but the person who will be at loss is u
@ndhikaatube
@ndhikaatube 4 жыл бұрын
to show you that actual shayateen is real
@aishaomar2137
@aishaomar2137 6 жыл бұрын
Lol shamsi put that guy in his place
@quest3290
@quest3290 7 жыл бұрын
Kalam stands there with a grin on his face just nodding his head like he's actually listening. This guy I tell ya.............
@loasemanija8743
@loasemanija8743 7 жыл бұрын
Shamsi took him to school MashAllah.
@hakarsalam6388
@hakarsalam6388 4 жыл бұрын
OMG ! Shamsi is really incredible 😮👏👏
@wunwun8875
@wunwun8875 6 жыл бұрын
These two are two of the best in the park. Both speak respectfully and both come with good arguments
@abraraltaflone
@abraraltaflone 6 жыл бұрын
actually after carefully watching Kalam from past few months I realised KAlam has already found the truth of life i.e ISlam but he doesn't want to accept it .May Allah guide us
@sareb234
@sareb234 7 жыл бұрын
I pray to Allah to give me 10 sons like br Shamsi
@w3y3z
@w3y3z 7 жыл бұрын
and then the very next week Shamsi brings evidence that shows that there were Jews who believed that Jibril came to Musa. But of course Kalam tries to weasel out of that one too, but to no avail. Kalam is debating for the sake of debating and to stroke his own ego. he doesn't even believe in the position he's holding. Sometimes these guys claim Musa A.S. never existed and the next, it's "oh Musa came from Kemet and he got it from us". he just tries to check Muslims by trolling but ended up getting "g" checked by Shamsi.
@thelight8034
@thelight8034 7 жыл бұрын
Kallam showing his ignorance and arrogance when the truth slaps him in the face.
@Oness2024
@Oness2024 6 жыл бұрын
This is a message to all Muslims around the world we must support Celtic the Celtic Fans have been supporting Palestine we must promote Celtic and support it
@dmney854
@dmney854 6 жыл бұрын
MashaAllah ☝🏼If only we had 300 Shamsi in Hyde park only.
@abubakarsadiqusman4280
@abubakarsadiqusman4280 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks may Allah bless you brother shamsi
@faisalmohammed3486
@faisalmohammed3486 7 жыл бұрын
Shamsi is a buetifull brother may ALLAH azzawajal protect him and protect him from the shaytaan and the shayateens Ameen
@moejimmy785
@moejimmy785 5 жыл бұрын
I am Egyptian myself and i can guarantee you people that christians today in egypt some of them pray to mary directly and inside churches they do that. You're not gonna believe me you europeans but come and see by yourselves and don't talk without any knowledge.
@moejimmy785
@moejimmy785 5 жыл бұрын
And that kalam oh my god... he talk as he's an arabic language professor or something 😂😂😂 man we arabs don't even know all about our language
@kkhanh4y
@kkhanh4y 4 жыл бұрын
Shamsi is a great guy, i love him so much. how old is the daughter of Shamsi? may Allah grow her blessed!
@ياهادي-ض2ق
@ياهادي-ض2ق 5 жыл бұрын
ماشاء الله ثقافة دينية وثقة وتدين
@MAli99923
@MAli99923 5 жыл бұрын
May Allaah preserve Shamsi
@DBKAQ
@DBKAQ 5 жыл бұрын
Kalam and Raspect, i honestly believe you guys are sincere and I pray that you will be guided to accept Allah and Mohammed PBUH. Love to both of you and Shamsi from Abu Dhabi peace bros
@lotsofqurans
@lotsofqurans 7 жыл бұрын
Ok guys, I want to join Shamsis _"doubt everything"_ theme today and ask THREE question: *(1)* "why Shamsi blindly believes the manuscript Waraqa was reading and translating was *THE TRUSTWORTHY, TRUE and ORIGINAL* book Shamsi thinks it to be? *(2)* Where did Waraqa get the manuscripts from since he used to be pagan before converting to Christianity?" and *(3)* why do only the manuscripts supporting Shamsis cause *magically* get a free pass *but* every other manuscript gets *thrown to to the wall, frisked, handcuffed and thrown to jail* on Shamsis orders? _Looks like theres a whole lot of corruption going on in Shamsis city._
@denohart4929
@denohart4929 Жыл бұрын
As a Muslim we accept the Quran as truth. It’s the only scripture that isn’t corrupted. Can you provide evidence that Waraqa didn’t have the original manuscript? We use the Golden chain of narration to identify who was truthful and who wasn’t a system you don’t understand. If the Quran makes a claim we accept it for reasons not only concerning history, we accept it for its linguistic miracles and it’s knowledge. Your name is many Qurans which already shows your upon falsehood. How many Qurans are there?
@lotsofqurans
@lotsofqurans Жыл бұрын
@@denohart4929 of course, if you say you're Muslim, I expect you to believe Quran is right all the time. This is your belief and you got every right to it. But not everyone believes what you believe in, so we try to reason with each other by trying to bring proof or counter proof. I can't prove or disprove much about waraqa. But I heard that your traditions say he used to be a pagan then converted to Christianity. I don't think you even know which group it was that converted him. And I don't think your traditions say what book or books he used to read/copy. So, neither you nor I can really prove anything much about him or the group he got his manuscript copies from. Quran just means a reading, proclaim, or recitation. Some say it comes from the Syriac. But the sense I am using it in is in response to when Muslim holds up a printed Hafs Quran and says "Look! This is the Quran. We Muslims only have one Quran in the entire world. Go to any mosque in the world and you will find their copy of Quran is exactly the same as mine - word for word, letter for letter, dot for dot." And BTW, there is not a single verse in Quran that explicitly say Tawrah, Injil, nor Zabur are corrupted.
@denohart4929
@denohart4929 Жыл бұрын
@@lotsofqurans The Quran is an oral recitation, meaning Muslims don’t rely on ink and paper. Now through my experience I’ve been to many different Masjids and the recitation of the Quran is the exact same place to place. That’s my personal experience. The claim is that the Quran is the exact same in every corner of the world, there are 7 different Qiraats of the Quran, meaning variations, there are slight differences in pronunciation depending on where you are from, however the meaning stays the exact same, which is explained using Hadiths. Now before we accept a Quran or a translated Quran we look at who published it and what credentials they have so we can rely on that specific Quran. Again in Islam there is the Golden chain of narration and it only doesn’t apply to Hadiths but it also applies to a Hafiz (Quran memorizer) We check who taught that person, and then who taught the one who’s teaching that person and it goes on and on until the time of the prophet (pbuh) and his companions. We can verify this chain as well. Now how the chain works is kinda complex but in short summary every person in the chain of narration must be considered knowledgeable and TRUSTWORTHY, and there is a criteria to determine those characteristics/attributes. Many claims in the Quran are based on belief, your right about that. I converted to Islam a couple years back because of the Ring structure of the Quran, it’s solutions to world problems specifically in the West, and the strict worship of 1 God. It’s rational to me. But, we can definitely know that the Quran hasn’t been changed and all Qurans published can be referenced wether they are correct or altered.
@lotsofqurans
@lotsofqurans Жыл бұрын
@@denohart4929 yes, the Hafs reading is probably the most popular reading, so you will mostly hear that. But other readings still exist. You will probably hear a Warah or Qaloon reading if you were to go to Algeria or Morocco. Sometimes you will find certain words missing when you compare Hafs to Warsh. Sometimes, the difference in pronunciation does makes a difference in meaning. Today, there are 10 accepted readings. But before that, there were 7 that were accepted. It's probably better to call them 'Canonical readings' coz they were chosen by certain scholars of the past. I heard that they chose these readings because their number starting to baloon out of control and each reader had some differences from his colleague. To limit the number of readngs, scholars limited the number of narrators for each of the seven famous Qari. For example, Hafs' colleague would be Sho'ba. They both say narrate from Aasim. But they are not 100% identical to each other. They had other colleagues who [also say they narrate from Aasim] who had their own differences as well. So there was no uniformity. p.s. When you hear the the number 7, it doesn't refer to the number of quranic readings but it refers to the number of persons/scholars. I.e., Aasim is one of the 7. But there is no quranic reading of "Aasim". the common denominator among these readings is that they are said to represent one of different manuscript copies Uthman was said to have sent to the different areas of the muslim empire. This means that the aural nature of Quran is kind of getting mixed in with a written form. And any reading that would be accepted would have to conform to the one of these uthanic manuscripts. But what about the time before the uthmanic manuscripts? Some hadiths record other companions readings that do not fit into the script that was imposed by the uthmanic manuscripts. So it sounds like, gradually, certain kinds of readings began to die out.
@PAGoldenglovechamp06
@PAGoldenglovechamp06 4 жыл бұрын
The Muslim dude lost this pretty badly
@alyssaalgeria2830
@alyssaalgeria2830 6 жыл бұрын
Machallah Brother shamci i'm proud to be mouslim 😍❤ proud shamci IS from my country Algeria 🇩🇿😍 all people in the World know Algeria had Big revolution they have many combattants &martyres historical Algeria IS so deep..Allah give all this martyres & combattants Janet lfirdews 😖😢 &give all mouslim in the World paradis ferdawss inchallah...
@hotschokom
@hotschokom 4 жыл бұрын
Alyssa Algeria Amin
@porkiesviews7227
@porkiesviews7227 7 жыл бұрын
Kalam let's people preach to him..that was 95% Muslim 5% kalam..he has knowledge but is a weak debater..
@pervazkhaliq
@pervazkhaliq 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing that so much info was discussed and Kalam and Gabz couldn't understand one word. sounds to me your doing this for the sake of argument
@DJOLAWA
@DJOLAWA 7 жыл бұрын
Kalam! You have to learn more from brother Samsh . And stop twisting and pretend you have knowledge about Quran!
@kingking-yb2in
@kingking-yb2in 7 жыл бұрын
Ousman also burnt half of the QURAN
@mdsaifuddinahmed2199
@mdsaifuddinahmed2199 6 жыл бұрын
Kalaam got ran over! That laugh from kalam was like ik im dead! The guy in the end said he had no information bt he also had no proff
@raymond942
@raymond942 7 жыл бұрын
And the irony is that a Christian (waraka) started Islam.. he was the only one who thought Mohammed’s torturing Jinn spirit was Gibrael..
@GEEKSYFE
@GEEKSYFE 7 жыл бұрын
False. Aicha he wife of the prophet Mohammed pbuh saw Gabriel pbuh.
@LB_die_Kaapie
@LB_die_Kaapie 7 жыл бұрын
Waraka wasn't even a Christian. He was some sect outside of the Church. Not even an authority in his own religion..
@raymond942
@raymond942 7 жыл бұрын
J .dV ... waraka was very familiar with the Christian doctrines.. they even mention in this video he was more than familiar with Jewish etc texts... Strange how when waraka dies, Mohammed’s revelations stops/slows & he gets depressed again (like when the spirit cane to him in the cave).
@smoothcriminal1835
@smoothcriminal1835 7 жыл бұрын
raymond942 The irony is this is coming from a sikh who's religion isn't considered as divine by anyone. All your main concepts are from Islam. The teachers of Guru Nanak were Muslim. The foundations laid down on the golden temple were by a Muslim. The Iranian flag emblem (Islamic calligraphy) saying Allah is taken and used as your khanda. A clothing of Guru Nanak in the golden temple had the Shahada written on it. So if your got a problem with Islam then you have a problem with Guru Nanak.
@raymond942
@raymond942 7 жыл бұрын
SMOOTH CRIMINAL1.. *i already previously showed these arguments of yours to be bullshit* ... But if you've got a short memory from all the inbreeding, here goes... (1). The Gurus themselves communed with the Divine, whereas Mohanmmed had no confirmation of whether it was a Jinn or whatever giving him instructions.. Plus, by their fruit you know them... Look at the respective communities contribution n the world. Action speak louder than words... (2) The Golden Temples foundadtion stone was laid by a Sufi-mystic MiaMir (not muslim), who themselves as a community, also communed with the divine, used music as prayer, had spiritual masters as intermediaries, all of which are NOT muslim. (3) I previously already told you Iran flag was only made in 1980s by Khomeni, taken as a dedication from his fathers connection to PUnjab/Sikhs respect.(4) The shahada clothing of GuruNanak was a gift from a muslim devotee; He was not a fundamantalist, that refused gifts from anyone, muslim, Sikh, or hindu.... Anyway, whats that gotta do with the topic of this video? *Stick to the discussion of this video* or is that all too unconfortable?...
@rowenaali4908
@rowenaali4908 2 жыл бұрын
Kalam did get him to admit there's no manuscripts on the Gabriel visit to Muhammad..
@sashagooch6401
@sashagooch6401 7 жыл бұрын
Kalam has a point that shamsi does'nt like him to put forth.
@seekforjannah2432
@seekforjannah2432 7 жыл бұрын
sashagooch like what
@sashagooch6401
@sashagooch6401 7 жыл бұрын
lets unite to truth the point that he cant bring forth evidence and never should we say that just because someones trustworthy that they could'nt (1) lie (2) make a mistake (3) be lied to which makes them beleive something to be true that is'nt.
@sibou5836
@sibou5836 6 жыл бұрын
Because they bring there own understanding get brainwashed by the devil en wanna live there own way and follow there desirers
@dipopeneng6188
@dipopeneng6188 4 жыл бұрын
No need to debate how the script came, because you can debate it until the end of time (if you are subjective person). Just dig and study all the scripts (Taurah, bible/new testament and Quran) and find yourself which one is logical/free from errors and from the God.
@Behappy23487
@Behappy23487 6 жыл бұрын
ماشاءالله brother ❤❤❤❤
@fareed3764
@fareed3764 3 жыл бұрын
Shamsi just shattered Kalam gibberish . All Kalam could do just let out the laughing defeats. LOL .Your Laugh can not help you , Kalam ! I wish that shamsi and Ali Da waah see eye to eye.
@baderaf1
@baderaf1 5 жыл бұрын
Kalam *breathes* Shamsi: look after yourself
@mohabenbali6081
@mohabenbali6081 3 жыл бұрын
you are a shia lol ,
@NourhanAshraf-bp8xg
@NourhanAshraf-bp8xg 3 жыл бұрын
The Christians and Shiites people of misguidance gathered together lol
@istandforjustice143
@istandforjustice143 7 жыл бұрын
+Kalam At 23:25 of this video (kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIbCpWmtfaeUna8) the speaker explains the name of Angel Jibreel(Gabriel) being Na-Moos. I personally would listen to the whole video but if you want to hear that part then go to 23:25 onwards.
@cityclips8479
@cityclips8479 6 жыл бұрын
16:33 Kalam destroyed himself 😂😂😂
@nv5687
@nv5687 6 жыл бұрын
Is Kalam Muslim? He says PBUH after Muhammad
@MAli99923
@MAli99923 4 жыл бұрын
@@nv5687 Kalam is NOT Muslim, he is doing it to show respect but dont let that fool you.
@iankennedy1441
@iankennedy1441 Жыл бұрын
​@@nv5687let me see if u are an honest muslim , where did u get that the Angel was Gabriel ,
@pentz1
@pentz1 7 жыл бұрын
Shamsi (bless him) talks shit but he is a sincere guy.
@rocksteady7863
@rocksteady7863 6 жыл бұрын
This is why they dont challenge shamsi his stance is firm and comfirmation solid like a mountain with no inertia ...my Allah keep ypu safe against these pagan who claim to be bani Israel...what a joke expose these clowns
@Gilgamesh999
@Gilgamesh999 7 жыл бұрын
The Arab guy is just ranting unintelligible verses and smugly confirms it to be authentic. That's a lot of bullshit.
@vimomax
@vimomax 4 жыл бұрын
Kalam just want your times. So, you cant enough time to give dawah to sincere people
@Tru162
@Tru162 5 жыл бұрын
Who built the first library in the Middle East and in all of the world?
@musacamara7366
@musacamara7366 7 жыл бұрын
Brother shamsi is incorrect when he said that inna is conditional inna is not conditional. Inna is translated as verily or indeed. However inn is conditional and is translated as "if".
@jonnyy4088
@jonnyy4088 6 жыл бұрын
My ears aren't used to the accent nor his speed of speech.
@yasserf8809
@yasserf8809 7 жыл бұрын
Kalam is throwing claims without backing it with a proof
@thefeeling5177
@thefeeling5177 4 жыл бұрын
Marshallah, Allah gives knowledge to whom him wills.
@Reason_over_Dogma
@Reason_over_Dogma 7 жыл бұрын
Big up on keeping it to the discussion and no rawr rawr! I enjoyed the discussion.
@cafeespresso99
@cafeespresso99 5 жыл бұрын
@28:45 is a credit to both sides.
@contemplaaation8052
@contemplaaation8052 3 жыл бұрын
May Allah guide this man, kalam.
@Goodborni
@Goodborni 4 жыл бұрын
Thank God that Shamsi was debating him, Kalam is truly a danger to Muslims he is there in the park just to create drama and put doubts in people's hearts from what I see
@KingdomOrDieTrying
@KingdomOrDieTrying 3 жыл бұрын
Every Book writer in the old testament had a scribe. A Scribe was a profession. If a writer has a scribe and the writer dies. What is the best way for Scribe to finish the work? Common sense isn't common
@Mustaza5
@Mustaza5 5 жыл бұрын
Mr. Emanuel Deutsch says: “The namus is a hermaphrodite in words. It is Arabic and also Greek. It is Talmudic. It is, in the first instance, , ‘law,’ that which by ‘custom and common consent’ has become so. In Talmudic phraseology it stands for the Thorah or Revealed Law. In Arabic it further means one who communicates a secret message.
@liaqatkhan4603
@liaqatkhan4603 6 жыл бұрын
The Arabs..before Islam..were pagans. .Christians. .Jew's. .and bedoiuns..who lived in Jahlia
@liaqatkhan4603
@liaqatkhan4603 6 жыл бұрын
Namoos. .would never be used for Gabriel. .Jabreel. .never ever ever..
@BlackDUST..
@BlackDUST.. Күн бұрын
BROTHER SHAMSI A BEAST WHEN IT COMES TO ISLAM, A TRUE SCHOLAR INDEED
@RawDollar
@RawDollar 7 жыл бұрын
If the guy on the left was genuine in his knowledge he wouldnt have a problem making eye contact.
@AGTV10
@AGTV10 7 жыл бұрын
The Roman Catholics till today mention and believe that Mary is the mother of God. Which makes her greater than God. So the Quran is saying the truth in the verse which states did you and your mother tell the people to worship you as gods instead of God?
@thelight8034
@thelight8034 7 жыл бұрын
Knowledge is truly power and the truth will always prevail. May Allah (swt) bless brother Shamsi. Ameen.
@antalu-al13-hichambenchaib70
@antalu-al13-hichambenchaib70 7 жыл бұрын
There is Jackie Chan 😂😂
@teikpekwao6303
@teikpekwao6303 7 жыл бұрын
One of the names of gavhrael meaning law giver Na'muz. Rabbi tovia singer says. Gavhrael brought the laws to Moshe
@Babsharker
@Babsharker 6 жыл бұрын
Salaam Br Shamsi Mashallah you educate us. But please slow down.
@iankennedy1441
@iankennedy1441 Жыл бұрын
This kalam man really won this debate hands down
@kingking-yb2in
@kingking-yb2in 7 жыл бұрын
The guy with the green jacket is so shocked by shamsi nonsenses
@SaRaGarvey2012
@SaRaGarvey2012 7 жыл бұрын
Sounds like preaching to me.
@Helalbhai
@Helalbhai 7 жыл бұрын
Looooool batty boy
@3KY20V
@3KY20V 6 жыл бұрын
You just salty that he wont give you time of day in a debate, lest he destroy you like Hamza did 😂
@داعيإلىاللهعلىمنهجالسلف
@داعيإلىاللهعلىمنهجالسلف 5 жыл бұрын
Lion Shamsi ❤
@AbdulWahab-fr7kq
@AbdulWahab-fr7kq 3 жыл бұрын
wow we ought to learn from shamsi
@istandforjustice143
@istandforjustice143 7 жыл бұрын
At 23:25 of this video (kzbin.info/www/bejne/iIbCpWmtfaeUna8) the speaker explains the name of Angel Jibreel(Gabriel) being Na-Moos. I personally would listen to the whole video but if you want to hear that part then go to 23:25 onwards.
@SoundSoCollective
@SoundSoCollective 7 жыл бұрын
Yes brother shamsi, i like these vybes here... Salaam-u-Aliakum my brothers and Sisters....
@MrRaiders209
@MrRaiders209 4 жыл бұрын
SubhanAllah, that was like a shotgun of debunking by Shamshi, mashAllah, and Kalam has a channel? and viewers? Yikes! Fear Allah and may Allah (swt) guide Kalam, aameen.
@tentonymason
@tentonymason 7 жыл бұрын
Kalam and Gabz M.I.B (Men In Black) throwing daggers at Shamsi. Lol
@worldworldss6250
@worldworldss6250 7 жыл бұрын
Shamsi destroyed Kalam, anyone with brains can see that.
@ottomanturk9037
@ottomanturk9037 7 жыл бұрын
It is Jibril, Becouse When you look at the night Journey of Prophet Muhammad, there is a place that Angel Jibril stops after that no other Angel Accomponies prophet Muhammed for the rest of the Journey. This shows us that Angel Jibril is the Highest of the Angels.
@ottomanturk9037
@ottomanturk9037 7 жыл бұрын
wjeo He proved that IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED. IF YOU READ THE FULL STORY OF THE MIRACH YOU WILL GET ALL THE ANSWERS.
@sharps8726
@sharps8726 4 жыл бұрын
Shamsi has refuted Kalam, Muhammed Hijab, Yasir Qadir, Mufti Menk, Nouman Ali and Imam Hussain. He is in alignment with Yazeed..........
@theknowledgeispower2501
@theknowledgeispower2501 6 жыл бұрын
Shamsi 💖❤💙💚👍
@ibrahimmakinde8990
@ibrahimmakinde8990 6 жыл бұрын
Even today, the Catholics called Maryam, the mother of Jesus(Eesah pbuh), out of ignorance mother of God! Nauzubillah!
@liaqatkhan4603
@liaqatkhan4603 6 жыл бұрын
Kalam is cool in this one..Shamsi. .is incorrect. .referring too text off men..and not Allah's.
@WolfBenjamite
@WolfBenjamite 7 жыл бұрын
I have the ORIGINAL UNCHANGED TORAH which is FULLY ENCODED so that is ANY word or letter is changed , added or taken away you will know.
@MrAlio84
@MrAlio84 7 жыл бұрын
Mr Cross There is no unchanged torah. The oldest Torah manuscript is 6 century BC which is about 1000 years after the time of Moses.
@WolfBenjamite
@WolfBenjamite 7 жыл бұрын
MrAlio84 You are entitled to your opinion...Which unfortunately doesn't hold weight to the fact that I have the ORIGINAL TORH. You say I don't, I say I do. We end it there. Belief vs facts.
@MrAlio84
@MrAlio84 7 жыл бұрын
Mr Cross You don't, no one does. There is not even a proof if Moses is a real charachter not just a myth.
@WolfBenjamite
@WolfBenjamite 7 жыл бұрын
MrAlio84 Question , Do you know me and know what my library contains? I DO.
@داعيإلىاللهعلىمنهجالسلف
@داعيإلىاللهعلىمنهجالسلف 5 жыл бұрын
Brother Shamsi the lion
@robertcantarero7652
@robertcantarero7652 4 жыл бұрын
God struck Metatron with 60 fiery lashes to show that he is not God
@tamim3463
@tamim3463 7 жыл бұрын
he provided clear evidence yet he says he hasnt given any, do you have selective hearing?
@crazyvidzuniversal8060
@crazyvidzuniversal8060 6 жыл бұрын
Does kalam debate Christians?? Or is just a hater..
@truthseeker2095
@truthseeker2095 6 жыл бұрын
As usual some left right combo by shamsi this guys some mayweather in da park!!!
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