Control - Alan Wake and Tom Zane Meet

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[@aliteraryfrenzy]

It's interesting to come back to this after Alan Wake 2. Here, Alan's hair is longer than it was in Alan Wake 1, but not as long in the sequel. Also Zane completely mirrors Alan here where in Alan Wake 2 he started to take on his own appearance. So, with every loop there is a sense that Zane keeps pushing Alan to change more and more. Change the reality of the Dark Place, but also the reality of Wake himself.

[@greekjohn1998]

This could also be Mr. Scratch pretending. That's my theory at least.

[@SuperHansimann]

It's not a loop. It's a spiral

[@kalebb7170]

@@greekjohn1998*Spoilers* Scratch is Alan is Zane is Scratch. We were explicitly told that scratch is Alan when possessed by the dark presence, and ever since Alan Wake 1 a bunch of characters have referred to Alan as "Tom", and Alan and Zane had basically the exact same thing happen to them. They're the same.

[@VinceGameplays]

The conversation is almost the same when Alan meets Zane in AW2

[@anxia-tea5846]

fun fact, how jesse describes Alan afterwards depends on whether you’ve read files on him or not

[@LSK2K]

I think this was also in one of Alan's failed attempts. In the sequel he meets Zane and the dialogue is almost exactly like this. Not as obscure and vague as this one but still.

[@MrGruntful]

Maybe one of the many hundred attempts to write an escape. Zane mentions that he would deal with Scratch but not in AW2's scene.

[@lentinant]

Don't forget about "spiral". Sometimes what Alan or others do becomes the reason for events that already happened. AWE alarm in Eldest House was received few years in the past, while we now know it actually happens in 2023. Jesse might in fact look into the future in this moment. This might be why we see her in this cutscene in Alan Wake 2.

[@marcane6122]

Great theory. I think at times it's more clear than the scene in AW2. I was confused if Zane was a poet or film maker but now it's clear with this scene.

[@Axel1790]

Also should note that Esteves says the Oldest House is “in the dark” at the moment in AW2 so the two events could be happening at the same time. No a door to the Future. But happening simultaneously, Since we know time in the Oldest House is kinda weird, Like how post game control you go and clear a few hiss out, and Dylan already grows a full head of hair and beard is that short amount of time.

[@theghostoftom]

Darling just casually in Night Springs.

[@novachikun]

Not so casual if you saw all the episodes in Final Draft of Alan Wake 2.

[@sandmanofchaos]

I think this conversation was early in the spiral/loop because the dialogue is almost the exact same as in AW2, very interesting stuff.

[@GuharoLeon]

And that's the way how Jesse perceive the conversation what we see in Alan Wake 2, nice.

[@kenkaneki9176]

Alan's lookin' rough. 10 years in the dark world, can't imagine what all he's been going through in that place. He's been writing for 10 years, and it seems, he's close, very close to breaking out.

[@LSK2K]

A beginning. A primordial forest. The colors of the fall. The mist. A caldera lake. Silence echoes, loud, it's too late to hear the words. The man, naked, crawls to the shore. Like a birth? To say that would be a lie. Nothing like a birth, the opposite. He staggers to his feet. A carcass of a deer lies on the shore rotting amidst drift wood. The man is afraid, beside himself. Who is he? He doesn't himself know. Dark waves have washed it away.

[@LovecraftianToenail]

write an AW fanfic, I'd read more of this

[@LSK2K]

​@@LovecraftianToenailThank you, but I can't take credit for something I did not write. That was Sam Lake himself. He basically spoiled the beginning of Alan Wake 2 but it was so cryptic that all we can do is simply speculate. I did however write something, a description of Alan trying to escape the dark presence hunting for him in the subways. I think you'd like it.

[@forest8779]

GREAT clip, love the blast "negative" stargate effect, sooo awesome, CANNOT wait for part duece next month!

[@ManthonyHiggs]

not zane at all, totally just scratch fucking with him

[@LeocaprioDinardo]

Its 120% Zane.

[@LeocaprioDinardo]

F idiot, Scratch has been in the real world for 13 years since Wake got trapped in the Dark Realm.

[@W980WVW]

I think this is Thomas Zane's doppelgänger (the film director) messing with Alan. Thomas Zane, the poet, is the one trapped in the Darkness

[@ManthonyHiggs]

@@W980WVW that's an interesting theory. Zane knew about scratch in aw1, maybe ge had his own scratch?

[@LeocaprioDinardo]

@@W980WVW tomorrow if Im not busy and dont forget I will help you.

[@radutron]

Alan Wake is an "altered item".

[@quintontyler7390]

I really want to know the song they used between alan wake and tom zane.

[@pgat5]

Or maybe you look like me you handsome devil

[@avilesgx325]

Why I think Thomas Zane Is not good like wey think all the fans ? And its behind the events of Alan wake 2 ?

[@LSK2K]

I'm not sure. What I'm sure of however is that this guy is definitely Scratch.

[@ghostrider2521]

I m thinking that is bad side of Zane like alan wake have mr scratch

[@Spooky1611]

Love that Thomas Zane has Ilka Villi's voice, and Ilka being the likeness of Alan with Matthew poretta voicing it. They are in fact very meta an ''artistic collaboration'' 🫡

[@daniloassis8958]

i wish it stayed that way for AW2

[@Spooky1611]

And it did! Ilka villi plays and voices Thomas Zane in the oceanview motel@@daniloassis8958

[@davis9671]

@@daniloassis8958 it literally did tho? tf

[@prettieboiswag6659]

Aside from Ilka's slight accent, i couldn't even tell whos talking sometimes

[@daniloassis8958]

@@davis9671 chill I realized on my replay lol I thought it was Matt doing a slight accent just shows how good Ilka is

[@denverm7909]

control was good, alan wake 2 very bug