Control your HELIX using MIDI from an iPad with FORSCORE

[@felix-antoinelebel755]

I bought a Yamaha MD-BT01 and installed the Korg BLE-MIDI app to my iPad Air and it works great with Forscore! The best trick to sync with the Helix is to use the Learn Controller feature of Forscore or Helix. I think it is most useful to use the Helix as the Master device in this setup instead of switching the presets from the tablet. It is faster to rearrange a setlist in the Helix while keeping the correct links to the charts in Forscore. I also use the Helix as a page turner with up/down buttons in command center. Again I used the "learn" function in forscore for that option. Thanks for the video, it was plenty useful and will certainly improve my live performances!

[@felix-antoinelebel755]

Here is a link to the Korg APP: apps.apple.com/us/app/bluetooth-midi-connect/id1108321791

[@randyrektor]

Hey Felix, thanks for the response! This is awesome to hear another workflow. It must be so satisfying navigating patches and watching your sheet music change. When you use the Helix as a pagetuner, which pedals do you assign? I haven't found a way that I'm happy with yet.

[@felix-antoinelebel755]

@@randyrektor For now I have assigned the Scroll up to pedal 5 and Scroll down to pedal 11. I have set them so send CC commands on two seperate CC# with value to 127. For instance: Scroll up is Channel 8, CC# 87, Value 127; Scroll down is Channel 8, CC# 88, Value 127. The most time consuming about that is to copy paste the settings to all presets and snapshots. I am still experimenting with it. I haven't had a show yet with this setup.

[@randyrektor]

This is really interesting! I’m going to have to give this a try. Seems like this will be easier than my setup once you get it up and running! Thanks for sharing man!! 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻

[@user-qi4fh2lx8r]

@@randyrektor hey guys, I struggle to send MIDI signal from Helix to forscore. However I can not success. I can only change the helix as per forscore. Can you give me advice how to set forscore and Helix for page turning performence.

[@Musicalpa]

OMG, finally someone explains where to find the information to put into a MIDI event. I may be over half a century in my age, but am only now beginning to look into MIDI communication for my Helix, Beat Buddy, and Boss VE-500. Learning this stuff on my own is enough to make a grown man cry, lol.

[@randyrektor]

Hey, I’m in the same boat. I find this MIDI stuff wildly over complicated. Some people really thrive with it, but it seems so unintuitive to me

[@randyrektor]

What guitar tone should we conquer first? Go easy on me.

[@randyrektor]

Early Eric Johnson sounds awesome! I’m actually working on a Clapton tone right now which is so influenced by Eric Johnson. This is a great idea.

[@josuastangl7140]

I saw you never posted a video about any presets/tones. Although I have my own patches, I'd still be interested in your take on a Don't Stop Believin', Brown eyed girl etc tone!

[@ilovepies2]

Great video man.👍🙌 Also, can u make the building patch from scratch vid? There are already like 500 videos showing us how to get tones of other artists. As a viewer, I would like to see ur tone and ur playing.

[@randyrektor]

Thanks man, I really appreciate that. I can certainly do that, and I see your point!

[@alexbaerg]

Even if I never use this, it is SO awesome hahaha

[@randyrektor]

But can we hook our Helixes together and setup a set to toggle both of our rigs? Please?

[@baileypelkman]

You’re good.

[@randyrektor]

Thank you.

[@Yahoomediaclub]

This is awesome...I’d use this at my home studio with Helix Rack ...any other ideas welcomed ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

[@randyrektor]

Sounds great! I'd love to see this in action if you get around to it!

[@Mattonzy2]

Hi, Teo questions: 1) can i use a lightning to USB Adapter to connect my Pod go to The iPad? 2) it’s possible to recall snapshots of a preset?

[@Plymouthmusicschool]

Another advantage to using buttons Is the ability to switch to completely different patches for different parts of the song

[@randyrektor]

Ahhhhh yes! What a great point

[@JaredGunstonTV]

Did you figure out what caused the disconnection at gig? I've had a similar thing happen yesterday and trying to make a more secured pairing, but not sure how. I'm using Widi and an ipad9.

[@randyrektor]

Yea so I have it narrowed down to waking too far away with my iPad from the dongle plugged into the helix on stage… OR closing (sleep) my iPad. One of those, but I haven’t been able to recreate it as of yet

[@josuastangl7140]

This is why I'm planning to go wired, I don't have enough faith in these cheap wireless dongles

[@smithophoto]

Any update on the disconnect issue on the Yamaha MD-BT01? "Before I knock these I'm gonna give it a few more tests and see if I can figure out what I did wrong that caused it to do that and give you a bit more of an update later on".... I've looked at this wireless BT interface several times but I wanted to see if you had determined the source of your disconnect first.

[@randyrektor]

I can’t be completely sure, but I think it’s because I locked my iPad and ForScore stopped communicating over Bluetooth. I actually haven’t been able to recreate it, so it may have been a one-time thing.

[@smithophoto]

​@@randyrektor Cool. Do you use this regularly and haven't experienced this issue since the first use? I use OnSong at my church and I have my helix connected to my iPad via USB to a camera connection kit. It works great but I'd like to get rid of the cable... Typically my iPad stays on a stand unlocked the entire time, but sometimes I do take it down to use a bible app on my iPad during the message and return for an "invitation song" at the end of the service, so I'm thinking I could have an issue there with it disconnecting. I do know that OnSong handles bluetooth midi directly in the app, so I don't think I'd need the yamaha app installed... because of this I'm thinking it may also handle reconnection more fluidly...

[@randyrektor]

That’s interesting. I’d be curious to hear your experience. I’ve actually only used this 3 times last year (when we were able to make music with friends lol) and due to the circumstances I haven’t been logging much time playing. So far it hasn’t happened again but I know that’s not much in the way of testing.

[@user-qi4fh2lx8r]

Can you give me app store link? I can not found Yamaha viz(?) for connecting with MD-BT01.

[@randyrektor]

This is the app here. I can't find the app on desktop but it shows up on the iPad app store - usa.yamaha.com/products/musical_instruments/pianos/apps/visual_performer/index.html

[@user-qi4fh2lx8r]

How to connect with Roland UM ONE? When I connected with helix, UM ONE is not working(Red LED also not light)

[@randyrektor]

I needed to use a third party app called VisPerformer to sync with the UM ONE. Once connected through the app, it should work okay. I hope this helps!

[@cattaylor2]

This is an amazing video, I've been studying it trying to get my iPad Pro to talk to my Pod Go, and while I can get the program change to work with the camera adapter and I can see the light on the Yamaha UD-BT01 reacting when I push the button in ForScore, it won't initiate the actual program change. I also have a MD-BT01 changing an Eventide PitchFactor, that works. I even tried switching out the USB-B cable, but that wasn't it. Both show as connected using the midiMittr app. Both ForScore and the Pod Go are set to midi channel 4. and the Tx/Rx is set to ON. Any thoughts?

[@randyrektor]

Hmmm interesting! If the signal is getting to the UD-BT01, it seems like it must be something downstream, likely in the PodGo. However, you may not be sending the correct signal, so it’s tough to know! I’d suggest checking out the PodGo manual under the midi receive. See if there’s anything we’re missing. Maybe it requires a certain combination? Sorry I’m not more help

[@cattaylor2]

@@randyrektor I'm not sure the Pod Go wants to play nice. I've swapped out the PitchFactor for the H9 (it should arrive today) since there are way fewer hoops to jump through and more effects. I may use the Pod Go for just basic sound/hardware and the H9 for the effects (electric violin) thus not needing the program change to the Pod Go. It's a challenge to find effects units that aren't so focussed on distortion. I was also having issues with the send/return so will try that again with the H9. Thanks for getting back to me.

[@randyrektor]

I totally know what you mean about distortion being the main focus of a lot of these pedals, and I guess for good reason, but I’m in the same boat! I hope this works better for you!!

[@cattaylor2]

@@randyrektor I just got ForScore to send the program change to the H9! There's mapping that has to happen in the H9 app, but it worked! I have a Telemann Canon in my sheet music that I like to connect to a long delay so I can play both parts. (I usually play Celtic and rock stuff, but grew up playing classical). Now I can do it with my other pieces. I'm so jazzed! Side note: the H9 won't accept program change messages via bluetooth so I had to dig a USB B mini cable out of the closet, but it worked.

[@randyrektor]

Omg what an adventure you’ve been through lol!! That’s so awesome to hear that you’ve got it up and running! Thanks for updating 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@kenpifher1483]

I play backing tracks from onsong (via 1/8 audio out jack) and control the backing tracks via blue tooth Airturn, can I still connect to the HX and control through onsong?

[@randyrektor]

Hmmm interesting. So setting up two separate pedals. I am not sure about connecting two bluetooth devices, but I don't see why not. I should try this.

[@liordavidshragg]

Hi, is it possible to do the opposite? I want to use my foot pedal to CHANGE patches in a synthesizer, sampler, GarageBand etc. Thanks!

[@randyrektor]

Yup, I’ve done this before as well. Just have to teach the synth what controls to look for

[@liordavidshragg]

@@randyrektor Amazing. Would you be able to point me in the right direction for this? I've been having an awfully difficult time setting this up

[@randyrektor]

It totally depends of what synth you’re using and how you’re configuring it. There are a few too many variables for me to give you advice from my end, but there may be some KZbin videos on it. Just search “change patches with helix” and see what you get! Hope this helps!

[@68535neck]

I connected ForScore to my HX stomp. Buttons for Program Changes work well. Now I want to create a button to switch on the tuner of the stomp. The manual says it should work with MIDI CC# 68. Is that possible by a ForScore button?

[@randyrektor]

I think so but you’d have to add that button to every score. Doable though, just add a button, select MIDI and add those parameters (068/000/000/127) try that, if not the last one might be 000 or 001

[@68535neck]

@@randyrektor That is not working. The first position should be my MIDI channel 4. Is it really program change what is needed to switch on the tuner in th HX stomp?

[@randyrektor]

@@68535neck Hmmm yea Im not sure how to send that program change

[@randyrektor]

Maybe it’s 004/000/000/068?

[@evanwiebe7096]

Um what about witchy woman eagles? Idk

[@randyrektor]

Nice! I like

[@craiggriffith9769]

Doesn't work with USB Lightning to USB on the helix, neither buttons nor metadata midi send messages to Helix. Also your video is not current, can't enter 001 only 1. That was a waste of $20. Should have stayed with ONsong - that was working just fine.

[@randyrektor]

You’re commenting on a 2 year old video. ForScore has recently updated their midi protocol. Still works, but functions differently

[@jakevanbuskirk1706]

How about 500 videos showing us more of YO PRETTY FACE. As a viewer, I would like to see ur face.

[@randyrektor]

This is very constructive. Thanks for the feedback!