Controller Tap Strafing - How you should do it in S20

[@maxburmab7962]

I've been using such method since the moment they banned lurch on controller input. The reason I only see it now in your video and no one else doesn't seem to do this is that almost everybody is just scared of a thought of turning aim assist off, which is a shame. But your efforts might make a difference, so keep up!

[@sebastianedwards6731]

With aim assist ?

[@maxburmab7962]

@@sebastianedwards6731 I don't use aim assist for a couple of years now

[@paulodoremixd155]

well aim assist kinda... sucks today soo its not going to be a BIG problem but will change a little.

[@sebastianedwards6731]

@@paulodoremixd155they removed tap strafe because of aim assist saying it sucks is actually insane

[@KirkVz]

i've actually never felt any difference to having aim assist on or of lmao , neither on pc or console so this method doesn't affect me at all

[@IsolatedLLC]

great video bro

[@xshy2541]

ok mmm... basiically you need convert the controller on a K&M to make the tapstrafe?

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

That is correct. Super simple, only thing this video helps for is how to best convert controller to MnK for Apex

[@Empuhh]

Thank you for breaking it down like it should have been done at the beginning of removal of tap strafing on controller. The only people to actually made a video trying to defend controller movement on any platform was just idiotic degenerates who probably just abused stimmed neo strafing in pubs and still had a 1.5 kda. I learned configs and put in an entire year of practicing movement on controller and it was the best time I had with gaming for a long time. As you said in the video, they should have just reduced aim assist on controllers (from 0.4 to 0.2) instead of removing tap strafing as whole. I haven’t played much apex since the patch and it really affected me. And I think it affected a lot of content creators and their careers as well. (E.g extesyy, mizery, and so many more) I think configs became something the devs couldn’t tolerate anymore when people started selling configs through discord that included -jitter aim on controller -auto super gliding -auto mantle jumping -auto armour swapping -as WELL as neo strafing Tap strafing shouldn’t have been put in the same category as these cheating mechanics, and it’s honestly so sad that this, was the reason why devs removed controller tap strafing. I also think if you actually wanted to move as good as a mnk player did, or have the ability to have your reaction time correlate with your movement, you needed to play on a crazy high sensitivity with little to no dead zone, and that in itself took away a lot of benefits playing on controller. The higher the sensitivity, the less aim assist you could actually control, and I think only people who put in the time to get good at apex even before they learned how to tap strafe on controller know this type of information. I think you did a great job breaking it all down tho man, good video.

[@ItzzTBX2412]

hi, great video.. but i can't fing it on community layout

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

Open Steam, nav to Apex Legends in your library. Open your web browser and type this URL: steam://controllerconfig/1172470/3244540208 . When you hit enter, it'll ask if you want to open this link in another app (Steam). Open and apply layout. Now save that in your layouts. Sorry, this appears to be the only way I can share it for now. ALSO: STILL WATCH THE PADDLES AND APEX KEYBOARD BINDS SECTIONS OF THE VIDEO FOR BEST RESULTS

[@Flo1070]

Works fine but I only have 2 paddles makes the d pad down button the tap straif activation I would rather it be L3 click to activate tried changing it and It won't work any tips?

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

@@Flo1070 did you copy the rest of the settings, essentially rebinding your entire controller to MnK? If you don’t, tap strafing will be impossible. If you did and just rebound L3 to turbo W, then stand still and press L3. You should stutter step forwards. If you do then you set it up correctly. Now you have to figure out how to time pressing and holding L3 while hitting the correct left analog inputs to tap strafe. Keep in mind that this will feel completely different than the old mode-shift tap strafing method. This method is way more difficult. This also may be impossible or basically impossible with an L3 bind, I haven’t tested it yet

[@Flo1070]

@RobPlaysTooMuch yes. I just changed a few things around to match how I like my controller set up. I could have made a mistake but I double checked everything. I changed P for move forward from d pad down to L3 click and it wouldn't do anything

[@Flo1070]

@RobPlaysTooMuch I just tried putting it to w turbo and it works. Gonna take some practice but it was successful. You may still want to test it yourself cause you might find a better way. Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. Helped alot.

[@MMilan1]

Wait so pc gets to use hella high gpu and cpu high frame rate use their whole arm to aim have like 100 keys to do whatever they want with they can add macros and aim assist on mnk but when controller gets tap strafe to be able to kinda keep up streamers cry about it and get it removed smh this has to be the saddest gaming community I’ve ever experienced smh

[@kazukiv4126]

This is on pc for controller players

[@Crimsonwanderer27]

The most braindead person ever on earth lmao 😂

[@ianwaite3056]

so lost...

[@TurbosAndFPS]

This is NOT why controller tap strafing got removed! The beginning of this video is a misrepresentation of why this was removed. The ONLY reason that this was removed from the game was because of all the game breaking configs you could run along side it on controller making it EXTREMELY unfair. Tap strafing was no big deal and that’s why it was left alone on controller for over a year.. the problem was the tap strafing and then the neo strafing and all the weird configs… and then adding aim assist on top of that and your a walking impossible to hit *almost* aimbot

[@Crimsonwanderer27]

@@TurbosAndFPS you are right but steam configs even the tap strafe ones were overpowered,this was even said by. Faide who slammed Extesyy 5 times and extesyy killed him once when he thirded faide after he dropped down after fighting some one

[@STRIXBAMBOO]

my left joysticks stopped working after i used the settings

[@iiTzSyCo]

I may be a little late to this but I have had all of it done but it doesn't seem to be tap strafing. am I supposed to hold my back paddle as I'm tap strafing?? and also if I hold just the back paddle that's binded to d pad down it like jitter runs

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

@@iiTzSyCo yes, your explanation is correct. These binds emulate the way MnK players tap strafe, so it works very different from the old controller tap strafe macros. The paddle is strictly a turbo W bind. When you slide jump then hold the paddle while turning/looking left or right, you’ll hit a hard lurch to the side. Same works with any high-velocity movement (b-hops, jumping off of a gondola, nade boosts, etc.) The tap strafe paddle is emulating the mouse scroll wheel. So the “jitter run” you’re describing is the same thing that happens when MnK players scroll their scroll wheel. It’s a good indication that the binds are set up correctly. If you’re interested, it could help to watch an MnK tap strafe tutorial to learn how the tech works at a more fundamental level

[@Jackson.Day1111]

Thank you for that been wanting to learn. But every time I click my right d pad it takes me to this wierd screen that shows me my fps and my ping and I can’t get rid of it unless I use my mouse

[@Blink-ut7uh]

Hey for other community layouts tap strafing does not work at all. Ill press the tap strafe button and it will freeze my movement. Did tap strafing get removed or something?

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

Controller tap strafing using mode shifting was removed earlier this year. Now you can’t input a lurching MnK input within a certain time interval following controller input. Emulating your entire controller as MnK is the only way to do it now and that is wonky and disables aim assist. This video explains that method. Best of luck

[@Max01-xe4pk]

When im holding my jump for the neo strafe my fps drops very low and my game starts to freeze. any solution?

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

That’s weird. The processing needs involved in this method should be low, you’re just converting each button 1-to-1 from controller to MnK. I have seen stories of people having unexplainable FPS drops and other issues with Steam configs, but I’m not sure what solutions those people found. Maybe rebind your jump button to the controller button for jump just to double check that that is the issue

[@iMMoRDuL]

Let's say I bind one controller back paddle to a keyboard key so I can pop a battery, am I going to lose aim assist when I start fighting again? What specifically needs to occur to lose aim assist on controller?

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

If you are currently pressing any MnK button, you will not have aim assist. You won’t regain AA until you stop pressing that button then input a controller input. A good example would be to bind your right trigger to left mouse click (horrible idea btw haha). You’re strafing and aiming with aim assist, you have no aim assist while shooting then immediately regain aim assist when you let go of the right trigger (so long as you’re still strafing/aiming). Enabling button hints in the settings will give you some idea of when you do or don’t have aim assist with hybrid keybinds, but it’s not totally accurate

[@zenorii360]

am i able to use my own binds for this instead of default

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

Yes, but it takes a lot more work. You’d have to transcribe your MnK binds over your controller binds and be careful not to miss all of the extra settings that I set up for accessibility, including a few turbo binds. The “looting” profile would likely stay the same

[@kingfire32927]

I have a problem it won't get ride of the controller input how do i fix that

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

If you do this method, you should be incapable of pressing controller inputs. If you’re still hitting controller inputs, the setup must be significantly wrong. Maybe you didn’t apply the layout? Did you used to use cfg files for a controller layout? That may override this. Are you only able to hit controller inputs? Or are there a mix of controller and MnK inputs? If that’s the case, check your layout to make sure everything has been switched to MnK inputs. The analog stick settings are particularly easy to miss

[@kingfire32927]

@@RobPlaysTooMuch May I didn't do right, I have my buttons Also setup diffently my left bumper is my jump, my reload/pick/open doors is my right bumper. my sild is my right stick and i don't use back buttons bc i use claw. Is there way to be able to do that with stream configs?

[@kingfire32927]

@@RobPlaysTooMuch and it's mix of contronller and mnk inputs

[@pollodiablo_91]

I play on a ps5 controller using my custom setting. Jump with r2, shoot r1, slide r3 and also added the extreme rate kit (2 back paddles). I have to change something or can i literally copy this layout?

[@manutsarfat]

what if i dont have paddles

[@AasifSheik-o7j]

Please make a set up for 2 paddle users as well my controller is custom binds so this was actually confusing my game play please I beg u from south Africa lol

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

Play with four paddles! I’ll make a video, but it’ll probably be awhile. In the meantime, if I were you I’d try: 1. Bind one paddle to turbo W (d pad down, in my config) and bind the other paddle to crouch or jump, whichever is easier to pull off. Or 2. Bind one paddle to crouch, one paddle to jump and left stick click to turbo W (turbo W is set up in Steam settings). You’d have to learn how to press left stick click while moving with the left stick, but it sounds doable. But I’ll mess around with it and see what I figure out.

[@DanNguyen-bu5xl]

is this still working for season 21? because when i change the keys for buttons it doesnt work. only the dpad works now.

[@stayheartless9919]

#algs #tsm #controller #config #bestyoutuberever #season20 #apexlegends #tap #strafe luv u

[@johnjeral3951]

Any jitter aim guides coming soon?

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

Nah, probably not. Legit jitter aiming is impractical for controller players and jitter aim configs are cheating imo

[@perpetua1_sun52]

this comes at a price of loosing aim assist tho

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

It’s a bad trade off but it is fun

[@bleez4779]

Anyone else getting mad stick drift I just went and bought the same controller went over video 5 times now don’t see where I went wrong other than the 2000 For R.j inner deadzone after choosing custom that option doesn’t appear for me even with advanced options on yet everything else was exactly the same

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

Looks like Steam just updated that section of the controller config settings. Now you need to change deadzone source to custom. A blue bar appears with 2 sliders. Left slider is inner deadzone. My recommendation, move inner deadzone up to 2-5. Leave outer at default

[@bleez4779]

@@RobPlaysTooMuch it worked thank you👍

[@Zanes_Busy]

How do I set my left stick as my tap strafe button ?

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

I prefer the paddle setup, but if I was to use the left stick I’d bind left stick click to turbo W. Set expectations low, this is very different from the old mode-shifting tap strafe configs

[@Zanes_Busy]

I’m just confused because I want my jump and slide to be the same but the configs here change it all

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

@@Zanes_Busy these configs rebind [A (roller)] to [space bar (keyboard)] and [B (roller] to [C (keyboard)]. With default binds, A and space bar are jump and B and C are crouch. If you use a different controller or MnK layout in-game that’ll be messed up. You can change your in-game binds to match mine or leave as-is and just rebind each button to your setup. I use the default button layout for controller and the binds from 13:27 for my keyboard

[@umaninstrumentalityprject2989]

Time to learn no aa aiming

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

You’ll never be as good without AA, but it’s workable. I’ve spent a ton of time without it historically

[@freeofdeath]

i’ve been using this method and im lowkey getting use to no aa😭

[@Evisuusg]

Can you still tape strafe you bind the strafing button to left stick

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

You could bind turbo W to left stick click, but that’d feel awkward. I consider the old left stick click mode switching method to be cheating because it turns all of WASD into turbo inputs, making it far superior to MnK. MnK players only have one scroll wheel and they bind that to “W” and jump

[@Evisuusg]

@@RobPlaysTooMuch well they are configs so at the end of the day i hardly see that it’s cheating because some controller players do this but i do see your point, but it’s like the only button I don’t use on my controller layout because I have auto run

[@MyTHbIu21]

I'm not so good at English... I'm correctly understand this method is absolutely turn off my aimassist?

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

Yes, aim assist is off

[@MatuaBill]

What’s up Rob thanks so much for the help, now my stick is drifting in game, I’ve played around with dead ones but can’t seem to stop it please help

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

If you keep raising the deadzone, you’ll eventually get rid of stick drift. But I’d recommend going somewhere in the middle. Allow a little bit of stick drift so that you don’t make your stick too unresponsive. To be more precise, you can raise your deadzones in the Steam controller configs. Go into the right stick settings and mess around with it

[@ethangould3678]

dont forget to change deadzone on your looting profile, that was the issue for me too

[@hendrix87boss]

everyone should be on a fair playing field mnk with mnk rollers with rollers if u have to do all this to play then u have deff skill issues learn to olay the right way

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

“If u have to do this to play you have a skill issue.” Bro, any controller player that uses this method would play significantly worse…

[@demarion3447]

You’re honestly kinda dumb. This literally takes away the one advantage controller players have…AIM ASSIST. You have to be SKILLED in order to play like this in the first place.

[@0rcon]

as a mnk play i dont see anything wrong with doing this tbh

[@Evisuusg]

What if u play on evolved settings on apex what it change anything ?

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

You’d only have to change your Steam and paddle settings. Swap LB and A settings. Then swap B and right stick click settings. Then bind the paddle you want to jump with to LB and the paddle you want to crouch with to right stick click. This is all assuming that you use paddles

[@Evisuusg]

@@RobPlaysTooMuch the only buttons I use for my paddles is my tactical which for me is x on ps5 and square to interact and I crouch on right stick

[@gillesdascia1442]

I can’t find it on steam

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

Open Steam, nav to Apex Legends in your library. Open your web browser and type this URL: steam://controllerconfig/1172470/3244540208 . When you hit enter, it'll ask if you want to open this link in another app (Steam). Open and apply layout. Now save that in your layouts. Sorry, this appears to be the only way I can share it for now ALSO: STILL WATCH THE PADDLES AND APEX KEYBOARD BINDS SECTIONS OF THE VIDEO FOR BEST RESULTS

[@kasanova749]

make it universal, nerf aim assist a little, and I'll be ok with that. I'll actual shoot a lot better if they nerfed aim assist a tad. it actually henders me in certain situations.

[@SSGAidxn]

Are you able to do this without paddles?

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

You can. Without a turbo-W input (tap strafe paddle), these configs still feel very good. If you want the ability to pull off robust tap strafes, you’ll need to bind turbo W to something. I would consider putting turbo W on left stick click. This might even be superior to my setup but would be difficult to master

[@krzysztofs6847]

does this mechanic and setup work in season 21?

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

Yes it does

[@killerc1615]

@@RobPlaysTooMuchit’s not working for me I’m still keeping my old controller inputs for some reason

[@killerc1615]

@@RobPlaysTooMuchnever mind it works but can I remove the movement configs but keep the move an loot?

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

@@killerc1615 not possible with this method unfortunately. The activation criteria for the move and loot is that you mouse cursor has to be on screen, but the cursor pops up inconsistently on standard controller settings. Specifically, it looks like using controller analog inputs while entering the death box makes it so the cursor doesn’t pop up. It’d probably be possible and consistent with some kind of cfg, but that’s not something I’d know how to make

[@donc5075]

[@spacerider12]

People saying its cheating are just noobs and bad players lets be honest. No pro would ever give up aim assist to gain movement on controller. I‘m gonna try it out though. Maybe im gonna deal less damage but its probably gonna be more fun again with tap strafing.

[@BatHimself-v2v]

Cfgs weren't cheats it's a PC only thing

[@Tonybot716]

What if I don’t have paddles

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

I can’t imagine this method going smoothly without at least one extra button. I rebound a d-pad button to turbo-W then bound that to a paddle to use it as a “scroll wheel”. I think you can do the same thing by binding left-stick click to turbo-W and using auto sprint, but I haven’t tried that yet. You can skip it and and use basic lurching inputs without a turbo-W button, but you’ll miss out on real MnK movement

[@Tonybot716]

@@RobPlaysTooMuch can u add me on like dicord to help I’m confused

[@Fullmoonflex556]

I cannot find your config on the community 😢

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

Try searching “Controller as MnK FINAL”. Steam is so glitchy. EDIT: See below response. Sorry for the difficulties.

[@gillesdascia1442]

I’ve tried too it doesn’t show up 😭😭😭

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

@@gillesdascia1442 @Fullmoonflex556 Open Apex in Steam library. Open web browser and copy and paste this URL: steam://controllerconfig/1172470/3244540208 . This'll open the config. Apply and then save it to your Steam configs for later. Sorry, this seems to be the only way I can share it ALSO: STILL WATCH THE PADDLES AND APEX KEYBOARD BINDS SECTIONS OF THE VIDEO FOR BEST RESULTS

[@abegayed1156]

First

[@freeofdeath]

i dont see it

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

I’ll go try to share the community config again EDIT: See comment below. Sorry for the difficulties.

[@rileyredli8787]

Does not show up for me

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

​@@rileyredli8787 @vmar123 Open Steam, nav to Apex Legends in your library. Open your web browser and type this URL: steam://controllerconfig/1172470/3244540208 . When you hit enter, it'll ask if you want to open this link in another app (Steam). Open and apply layout. Now save that in your layouts. Sorry, this appears to be the only way I can share it for now. ALSO: STILL WATCH THE PADDLES AND APEX KEYBOARD BINDS SECTIONS OF THE VIDEO FOR BEST RESULTS

[@freeofdeath]

@@RobPlaysTooMuchthanks

[@NoAim0512]

everything covered in this video is straight up cheating, NO EXCUSE !!!! u are using a third party programm and that is literly what respawn has banned. I agree that respawn should add a way for rollers to move like mnk but rn IT IS CHEATING !!!!

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

Look at the usage demonstration section and imagine the inputs I’m pressing to do those movements. If Respawn added lurch-like movement to controller, this is likely exactly how it would function. This is mapping MnK inputs to a controller. There’s really nothing special, OP or disingenuous going on here in practice

[@NoAim0512]

@@RobPlaysTooMuch then i could add aim assist to mnk per rewasd(still possible) and say "but controller can do it too", i know this example is a bit heavy. Pls dont get me wrong it is not OP, but the usage over a third party programm is considered cheating

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

@@NoAim0512 I totally see your argument, but I do think we’ll have to agree to disagree in this case. Using reWASD to enable cheating features like aim assist on the superior-aiming-device that is a mouse, that’d more clearly be cheating. But using reWASD to gain access to features that *should* be available to everyone sounds much less controversial. Imo, reWASD use was probably banned due to the former. But if you’re of the opinion that Steam controller configs are third party software and are therefore by your definition cheating, I totally respect that

[@ilysona]

imo i don't think its cheating since your losing aim assist on top of that its still mnk inputs onto a controller so im not sure what your on about 😂

[@0rcon]

@@NoAim0512 rewasd is banned

[@royalpoop5122]

this is literally cheating. i love your vids but promoting blatant cheats is pathetic

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

I’m surprised to hear this opinion. Why is this cheating?

[@royalpoop5122]

@@RobPlaysTooMuch respawn literally said this is classified as cheating. Configs are cheating.

[@luciendison6180]

So you think PC players should be superior to all console players and that console/controller players should be left with horrible movement?​@@royalpoop5122

[@khaleelhusairi6033]

@@royalpoop5122 ...

[@Rohenx]

@@royalpoop5122bro apex mnk player are the biggest winey brats, warzone has steam configs too no one crying, its bc your dying game is so sweaty only mnk players can do something

[@veonush]

hey bro im having problems. Can u send me ur discord so then you can help me out. Much appreciated

[@RobPlaysTooMuch]

No discord unfortunately. Small KZbinr. But I can try to help you out via comments. Describe it or screen cap a video with your issues and I should be able to help

[@veonush]

@@RobPlaysTooMuch i have my own binds and i want it according to them but i dont know how to