Conventional Wisdom Is Wrong | Assess and Caress with Donald Osborne and Jay Leno

[@Matteo_Licata]

I could listen to Jay and Donald talking cars all day, every day. Love this video series!

[@66gtfb]

Truth!

[@somebloke5565]

On one proviso. It's Jag - U- Err. Please we beg you America. What's with the 'W'? Why the 'Waaaarrr'? Then and only then, run the 'Lucas jokes'. Drive a Wolls Woyce, a Wadillac, a K-Why-sler, a Chev-Wol-Leh or a Toy-Wota.

I can listen to them for 30 minutes once a week.

[@JTA8130LV]

Jay and Donald talking cars not only best section of Jay Leno’s Garage, but the best car segment on KZbin.

[@johnnymason2460]

Just add Dennis Gage to this set and it would be perfect.

[@quincee3376]

​@@johnnymason2460ahhh nice mention.

[@kha7705]

​@@johnnymason2460indeed good Sir 👍

[@TCEPSD]

💯

[@JohnKorvell]

I always laugh at how these 2 good friends tease each other. That's a good part of every episode!

[@robscafidi4070]

CR Patterson is a crazy success story, Charles Patterson was born a slave, and escaped to Ohio on the Underground Railroad around 1861, apprenticed as a blacksmith, learned the trade, then joined with a white business partner to start his own carriage building business in 1873, bought out his partner in 1893 to take full control of the company, died a millionaire in 1910, was an absolutely brilliant businessman and his coachwork was known for exceptional quality, which really helped them in their transition to making cars under his son's leadership, since they already had such a great reputation. Company survived all the way to 1939, when the Depression finally killed the business, had they managed to hold on another 12-18 months, they would have made it, since WWII production quickly gave manufacturers all the work they could handle and then some.

[@stevansaunders18]

That’s an amazing story! Thank you for the history lesson. Incredible!

[@darrylperry706]

This story of Patterson was a great discovery for me as well, did NOT know this story. This is exactly why I have such great appreciation for Jay Lenos Garage, Jay will always drop a historic fact with humbleness that just keeps you watching, learning and laughing! Thanks Jay Leno.

[@larryc8607]

His business was in Greenfield Ohio . Also the home of Johnny Paycheck.

[@hiredgun7186]

I have a 66 corsa, have had many cars, muscle and cruisers over the years, the corvair is by far my favourite. Had it up till 86, but being the broke young man, sold it, i got a call a couple years ago asking if I wanted it back, I bought it back for $50 ( nothing had been done with it , so everything I did back then on it has to be redone). poor thing has seen a lot of mouse damage over the 30 + years sitting, but it is MY original Corvair and the money will get spent to fix it. that and my grandfather ( A GM dealership mechanic from way back) was helping me with it, I found a wrench he had left in the frunk when helping me fix something on it, Gramps has been gone a long time by now, but that brought a smile to my face when I found it I have to agree the second gen corvairs were one of the most beautiful cars GM has ever designed

[@MarinCipollina]

However, keep in mind, GM cars of the mid to late '60s were the most beautiful to be had anywhere on the planet.. GM was in a different league than everyone else.. Consider the 1967 Buick Riviera, the 1965 Chevrolet Impala, the1966 Pontiac Bonneville, the 1967 Buick Wildcat, the 1967 Cadillac De Ville convertible, 1965 Grand Prix, the 1966 Oldsmobile Toronado, the 1967 Pontiac GTO, the 1968 Chevelle, the 1966 Corvette.... Every single one a hit. GM could do no wrong that era.

[@sanseijedi]

Amazing to have your grandfather's wrench & the memory of him, congrats. I learned to drive on a 1st gen corvair, black over red. We were driving home from the local mom-and-pop grocery store, heard a terrible grinding noise. Looked like the engine had dropped down (I think; I was a dumb kid). We walked home. Dad walked back with an hydraulic jack & some lumber & jacked the engine into place. My memory was it was the engine mounting bolts or something, but of course I may be wrong. It was a great car & I loved driving it. California plate ISA511. Good memories.

[@FrederickRH1]

Love these guys. The Abbot and Costello of automobiles. Thanks for sharing with us.

[@awegner6465]

Back in the day when I worked at a service station, we had a librarian who owned this year model Corvair. When the battery got weak in time, we had to go jump it for her and it would be fine for the rest of the day. My Boss tried to explain to her how a battery on it's last legs acts, but she insisted that it was fine for the rest of the day and therefore didn't need a new battery. My Boss finally got fed up with her and told her we were going to start charging her for each trip down to jump her car. So she bought a new battery. You should have seen my Boss's face when she called the very next morning to say "I told you I didn't need a new battery, my car won't start!" So he and I went down to start it, opened the deck lid, someone had cut both cables and stole her new battery! We had a good laugh over that one! Love all your shows!

[@littledexter]

Ya

[@ETr4d3]

why cut the cables tho?

[@awegner6465]

@@ETr4d3 If you are stealing something from someone else, you need to be fast, so who would take the time to unbolt the cable when you can just cut it. On a Corvair the battery is in the back next to the engine, and with no lock on the rear decklid, anyone can open it as was typical of all cars back then.

[@donmoore481]

In 1979, while stationed in Germany with the military, I picked up an NSU 1000 TT. It was basically a 90% sized Corvair. While not the fastest thing on the block, once you to it off the autobahn and out of town, nothing could touch it for fast fun. My daily commute took me down the autobahn for 20 minutes, then 30 minutes over a mountain pass and through the forest of the Taunus Mountains. I always arrived at work with big smile on my face.

[@jagolago-bob]

Nice cars, the TTs. They are pretty popular in racing and hillclimb. Were you at Wiesbaden?

[@emjayay]

The famous BMW 1800/2002 that put BMW on the map in the US was also Corvair influenced in styling. I was surprized they didn't mention it.

[@jagolago-bob]

@@emjayay Maybe the BMW is stretching it a bit? It definitely has similarities, but the BMW came out .in '66 which would have made it old-fashioned in the eyes of the consumer. The NSU Prinz and the Hillman Imp (1961and 1963) look more like the Corvair

[@harveyalan788]

I was - June 67 to October 68, 32nd Air Defense Command, HQ on Wiesbaden AFB. Love my time there.​

[@jagolago-bob]

@@harveyalan788 yes, Wiesbaden is quite nice. I used to go there quite often. There's still a base, there.

[@edwardgh57]

With my very patient dad, I Learned to drive in a Corvair in Eagle Rock back in ‘71. Felt like I was driving a big go cart. Jay Leno, I listen to your stories and I think about my dad and growing up in L.A.

[@blueribb99]

Didn't the Morgan appreciate the most at 25%? The Corvair was 22.222% and the Jag was only 10%. What am I missing?

[@dumahim]

22.222 has more digits than 25%. Same way 1/4 pound burger sold better than the 1/3 pound burger because people thought 1/4 was bigger.

[@MJ_Smoff]

22.2% is still less than 25%

[@condrumnumberone9456]

This is America, so the guy whose name is on the business is always right. Just like Trump is the course champion at every one of his golf motels. 🤣

[@mexicanspec]

I think we all saw that but Donald didn't see the graphic.

[@jamesmisener3006]

That was a mistake, so was Jay saying rope transmission instead of driveshaft, but it's all good.

[@geraldtompkins5775]

These two guys are hilarious.

[@DAVIDMILLER-nc9vo]

Jay Leno and Donald Osborne, on the same show, is a real treat!

[@jakephillips8697]

Donald is the man! Stoked to see this episode.

[@GhostOfRT300]

LOL, no. He’s starting to drink his own bath water.

[@jakephillips8697]

@@GhostOfRT300 God forbid the man has his own opinions..

[@stevebarcia5945]

I absolutely love the banter between jay and Donald. Donald is a gem!!

[@Redmenace96]

Visited an XK Jaguar club day at a Seattle auto museum. Just amazing cars. Perfected a style from 30's, power and handling from the 1960's. Nothing like it.

[@oscargonzales7948]

Best part is Donald giving a wonderful English lesson to Jay.

[@andrewdavid6054]

still got it wrong though, you don't pronounce the second 'a'. It should be more Jag-You're. Jason Cammisa covered this on the Carmudgeon Show podcast, he's the only American I've heard pronounce it correctly.

[@a11oge]

@@andrewdavid6054 @oscargonzales7948 indeed "Jag-You're"

[@paulqueripel3493]

I've never heard anyone in the UK emphasise the R on the end. It's more of an uh sound than an are sound.

[@mcjasper]

As a Brit, I’ve always called it a Jag.

[@stevenslater2669]

I always liked Corvairs. By the time Unsafe at Any Speed came out GM had re-engineered the rear suspension, making the mid 60s Corvairs little super cars. Nader’s book helped kill a fine machine. My personal experience with Corvairs involved fixing the factory air conditioning. My dad had a commercial refrigeration and a/c business. A good customer bought a brand new Corvair with factory air conditioning. The dealer couldn’t keep the a/c working. After many visits to the Chevy dealer, the customer begged my dad to fix the thing before his wife divorced him! We lit the halide leak detector (the old propane-operated system in those days) and the detector element glowed brighter than I had ever seen before. And the leaks were all throughout the car’s interior! The condenser was mounted on the engine cover lid with rubber hoses connecting to hard lines running into the passenger compartment and forward to the evaporator core mounted up front. Every rubber hoses connecting to hard line leaked. I used commercial solder-in flexible connections at every joint. The leaks stopped. The A/C worked great. My dad had me drive the Corvair across town in heavy Philadelphia traffic on a stinkin’ hot summer day. A/C wasn’t yet in the early 1960s. Most drivers had their windows down and they were cooking in traffic. I was cool as a cucumber in that Corvair. The customer was happy. His wife was happy. My dad got a call from the Chevy dealer asking him to explain how we fixed the leaks. Those flex couplings were expensive, but were the ‘secret sauce’ to making the Corvair system live. The lines were laid on the floor under the carpet. Cheap. Cheap. Cheap.

[@emjayay]

That's GM for you. The original Corvairs also had much cheaper interiors than Falcons or Valiants because GM spent the money on the engineering an unconventional car. Of course that's what a car buyer sees.

[@ToyKingWonder]

It really didn't kill it. If you do more digging and read about people at GM, it was the growing interest in muscle cars. One GM exec said it was more the Camaro than anything else caused the lack of sales All the guys coming back home from the war wanted a muscle car, cheap, fun, fast goodness.

[@EJFXxx]

Donald and Jay make a great team !

[@vettekid3326]

I liked the first gen Corvairs and back as a fourteen yr old was the first car I ever drove. A friend of mine's mom had a 1960 with the Powerglide transmission and we used to hot wire it when she wasn't home. I do remember you could get them with both three or four on the floor manual transmissions. One thing that was true about Ralph Nader's book was if you had the tire pressure wrong in the first gens it could be dangerous. We made the mistake of filling the tires up to what was standard tire pressure of the day, 32 psi and it made the car go thru corners like a brick on ice. When we got smart enough to read the manual we found out the recommended pressure was 16 for the front and 25 for the rear tires.

[@bobjohnson1587]

Yep! The correct tire pressure made all the difference!

[@donswier]

1st Gen Corvair inspired many other cars, including BMW sedans until the 90s.

[@richheckelmann3445]

The wheel rims on the 60-61's cause the tire to air out when pushed in a corner at low inflation - rim then dug into the road and jack flipped the car. Design issue? Not really Ralph. All cars would have the same problems at some level if pushed the same way.

[@jean-jacqueskaselorganreco6879]

Dear Jay, sincerely , after your "solo" shows (including the wonderful "pandemic edition"ones), this format with Donald are my all times favourites.Your exchanges, your humour, knowledge and style make the day, please keep this regularly on the programme.Any car could be interesting to be seen here,and it is such a calm and informative moment.Unfortunately, Donald mistakes on the Jaguar XK highest spec.(the XK 150 S):they never had Weber carbs, but the SU HD8 (identical to the 420 G).Jaguar never in any model had anything else than SUs. Congrats and thanks for showing all this to us

[@Anatoli50]

The XK150S had 3 SU HD8 carburetors.

[@jean-jacqueskaselorganreco6879]

@@Anatoli50 I know this, identical to my 420 G

[@dannyschoolcraft5984]

The two most entertaining car enthusiasts together is so enjoyable. Thank you all that makes these episodes the best. The front headlights bezels are from the 62' Impala. GM's only rear engine car. The Oldsmobile turbo was the 62' Starfire. 261ci.V8 Rocket.🌜

[@jalopy_jeff]

I can confirm at 6'0, the Jaguar XK120 Fixed head coupe is hard to drive comfortably, but it drives well.

[@tuberNunya]

My mother had one of those Corvairs when I was 7-8. Did great in the snow with the engine over the drive wheels. I have always like them.

[@fishbert17]

This is my favourite type of episode on the channel. Interesting car comparisons, and knowledgeable banter between two top guys

[@ppeterson9359]

I was looking forward to seeing the Corvair engine. I get it’s a survivor condition car and likely not pretty, but still would have been fun to see.

[@ram318yt]

It's an odd-looking thing, with the twisted fan belt running up over the top.

[@emjayay]

@@ram318yt Which had a tendency to fly off. They probably addressed that eventually.

[@phillipstewartsr.7625]

I love Jay!! I hope you continue to make videos for years to come!

[@ericholt6688]

My dad loved small cars and we had a 63 Corvair coupe as a family car for the 4 of us, never mind that when my brother and I had the back seat as teenagers, we had to sit with our legs crossed across the middle. But we lived in Colorado and even at 90 horsepower was a blast to drive on winding roads. It had an extra bonus because it had a trailer towing package which include a camber compensating spring across the rear suspension which made it a flat turner and over came any swing axle issues. Fun car.

[@richardmortenson8525]

So when is Mr Osborne getting his own show? Not only is he well informed, but he’s a great story teller.

[@briandurning9211]

I love their energy and banter. I'm glad that they are continuing this series.

[@cattlerepairmancattlerepai9414]

"Let's put you behind the wheel, I pour some gasoline in and a rag and then let's see how quickly you can get out!" Priceless.

[@GhostOfRT300]

Love it when Jay puts Donald back in his place with practical logic!

[@vintage76vipergreenBeetle]

😄

[@bobjohnson1587]

Isn't that what happened to Jay recently? lol

[@richdurbin6146]

@@bobjohnson1587He was working on a steam car when he got splashed with flaming gasoline.

[@bobjohnson1587]

@@richdurbin6146 Yes, I know.

[@ZEPRATGERNODT]

The warm (incandescent type) tone of the lighting, behind the cars in the background, reflecting off of the floor/wall makes for an incredible background.

[@cdstoc]

Great series. I love that they included a Corvair. I loved those as a kid, and in high school I drove a 1961 Corvair Lakewood station wagon. I loved that car. My dad had ported and relieved the heads, increased compression, modified the springs/shocks. It was dyno'ed at 160hp at the wheels, and it had a 4-speed manual, so much fun to drive. I wish I still had it.

[@scrambler69-xk3kv]

My brother now deceased, and I both had two Corvairs. To show you how far they fell, He bought a 1965 700 coupe for fourty dollars. When you started it, it ran full speed. We replaced the carbs, and it was fine. It was mint, both body and interior. They were just great cars.

[@JoelyLupe]

Like listening to your two favorite nerdy but cool uncles going in on cars. Awesome chemistry between the two of them. Donald should have his own independent channel as well.

[@mannyj4751]

I drove a four door Corvair a few times, borrowed, and once had to slam on the brakes. The weight of the rear engine made it swing around and it did a 360.

[@PeterTennant]

I would love if you guys Added Donald's Song from this segment on the CNBC show. "If you love Classic Cars then Donald loves you"

[@richardbranch5978]

Just love watching these two together, an excellent part of Jay Leno's Garage. I also love the way Donald tells Jay and, I guess, most Americans how to pronounce Jaguar and Coupe - he is of course right... ;-)

[@quig89GMC]

Absolutely love Jay and Donald together, poking fun at one another and enjoying each other company. Plus, their knowledge of the featured cars is suburb.

[@paulgracey4697]

Not my first car, but my baby sister's was a used 1962 convertible Corvair Spyder that I arranged for her to purchase upon reaching driving age in 1970. When she married I inherited it as a second car. I became quite familiar both with its good points, it went like a scalded cat AFTER the turbo finally kicked in, and its not so good points. GM designed it to only have an automatic, so when the four speed transmission (Corvette?) was adapted to sit forward of the engine all the control rods and cables had a very circuitous route from the drivers seat. 13 idle wheels for the clutch cable for instance. That it was fast, but shifted more like a VW than a Mustang is probably why it sold so poorly. I had fun with it but I also discovered why it needed that head temperature gauge when the fan belt slipped off one night on the freeway. The gauge was not the only thing that special version of the Corvair had to save the aluminum heads from melting, it also had a thermal ignition cut-off switch on one head and I got lucky that night to be close to an offramp when it shut down. That it was a light weight car became another good point as I pushed it into the nearby service station (try and find those any more), and got the belt back on myself. That thermo-switch did reset itself when it cooled sufficiently and I got back home without needing a tow. Thanks for the memories.

[@LeonardGarrison-ov8nk]

Great job!!! Very Enjoyable and informative. Minor correction.. The 1957 Morgan is a 4/4 with the Ford 100E Flathead & 3 speed. The +4 was equipped with the Triumph TR engine and Moss 4 speed gearbox. Again, I truly value and appreciate your passion for beautiful automobiles and making time to share with all of us. Please continue to make videos just like this one for all to enjoy!

[@kennethbedwell5965]

You are quite correct. The plus four did indeed have the triumph engine. Triumph only started producing the TR range when Morgan rejected Sir John Black’s offer to buy the company.

[@r.a.monigold9789]

1969 returning from extended 1966 tour in Vietnam, my wife and I bought a new Datsun 2000, drove it to Colorado Springs. In 1970 I was sent to school at Quantico, Virginia where we traded the Datsun for a 1949 Jaguar XK120 alloy body roaster. We drove back to Colorado, down to Tyler Texas then to Savanna, Ga. Bought another Datsun 2000, drove BOTH to Colorado were I sold the Jag. 1 flat tire was the only issue we ever had with "Rodney".

[@aztronomy7457]

How often did you hear “Fortunate Son” in Vietnam?

[@r.a.monigold9789]

@@aztronomy7457 Sadly, the reality of war - killing other humans at close range - unlike the movies, does not induce joy. Now 78, I am still haunted by the people I killed and maimed. Battle scars go much deeper than flesh. I worry about protecting the 2nd Amendment, but even more, I'm concerned for those who have never killed people, yet worship at the alter of guns.

[@BullittHilts]

The XK120 is my all time favorite car - Corvair is up there as well. A great episode! Love the banter betweeen Jay & Donald.

[@vapor4den]

See thoses two arguing and challenge each other's idea of what is or isn't the car; They are talking/telling their story is as funny as it is also instructive !

[@GhostOfRT300]

Not arguing, more like Jay correcting Donald’s bias and misconceptions.

[@larrylucas1234]

I love both of these guys, but the winner was the Morgan. It had 25% appreciation.

[@naysayer1238]

Yeah, that was weird.

[@spechti2045]

JLG keeps on giving. been watching this channel for so long, and little has changed. its great, its great as it is!

[@krisandelizabethringlee8438]

I too love this video series, the cars, the info and the camaraderie...I think the barb trading matches between such obvious friends are just delightful .

[@louisrauzi3872]

That f85 jet fuel was ethanol/water mix. In a reservoir sprayed into intake to reduce detonation on boost. Low reservoir shut waste gate. No boost.

[@hctim96]

When we were kids in the mid 60's we took out the triumph engine from the Morgan+4 and stuck in a 289 mustang V8 and borg warner 4 speed. The thing was a BEAST!!! Great fun until the windscreen almost ripped off at 100+mph... Then we did the same ting to an Austin Healy 100/6....great fun!!

[@johnd8892]

If you had put the Buick 215 alloy engine in it you could have made a near perfect match of what Morgan did a few years later with their Plus 8 model.

[@HighSierra49er]

So much great historical information on these three cars. Always an enlightening and enjoyable event to listen to Jay and Donald throw out details of the classics on these A&C presentations. Best of the best and a beloved part of Jay Leno's Garage. Keep them coming.......

[@12345682900]

Actually, according to the chart, the Morgan appreciated more in the last 5 years, not the Corvair. Still a great episode, thanks guys!

[@Redmenace96]

Ummmmm..... yah. I don't know what they are babbling about. Also, I would drop 11k on that Monza model Corvair in a second.

[@DannyDavisPhotographer]

@@Redmenace96 In the real world the market value is between the individual buyer & seller. We are car guys not math nerds, right?!?! At least I am. The 1962 Corvair Monza Spyder was the FIRST turbocharged production car on the market. Oldsmobile was also in the running but were held up getting the Jetfire Turbo 215 V8 to the dealers for sale. Olds gave up on the Turbo Tech, but Corvairs had them until 1966. I drove a 1964 Monza Spyder coupe for years back in the 1980s - it was a blast on mountain twisty roads! I've got a 1966 Corsa 180hp Turbo coupe that I've got to get back on the road!! Next Spring for sure!! ; >)

[@AlbertWeijers]

Correct, 25% is more than 22% but you have to be a real whizzkid to notice that.

[@12345682900]

@@AlbertWeijers Actually, to ensure compliance BEFORE I posted I triple checked those charts and the data, then called a "witness" to verify (speaking parenthetically of course). Trust me, I'm no "whizzkid." Many of us were shocked with this mistake; I had to be certain. Coincidently, I was in LA shortly after this aired AND was at Jay's "car warehouse" but did not seek him out. Now that his face is badly bruised, he has bigger "fish to fry." I doubt, however, a mistake such as this will happen again. I'm not certain "we" can handle another!

[@garyleibitzke4166]

My first car was a 1963 Corvair sedan. Check the gas and fill up the oil. The pushrod tube o-rings leaked like a sieve.

[@davebarron5939]

As a kid I rode on my moms lap with my teeth often clamped into the dash of Dads 1962 Corvair Monza, great car. Brings back great memories. And the XK 120 was one of Dads favorite sports cars, RIP Dad.

[@robertrotterdam9]

Great episode, very informative. One thing: my grandfather bought an XK 120 DHC new in the fifties and it stayed in the family for some time. My father was a 'spirited' driver and about the brakes he said: when you start braking at 120 mph, it will stop doing it at 60. After that it us up to your steering... :-) I fondly remember him saying that (he died many years ago). Thanks for this great video: looking forward to the next one! Greetings from The Netherlands.

[@Erik_Swiger]

Hey, Jay. A couple weeks ago, I got the surprise of my life when I got a job at Tebo's Garage in Longmont, Colorado. I'm part of a small team that drives and maintains a private collection of 385 cars. Hightlights include a Tucker, a really nice Dusenberg, JFK's hearse, John Lennon's Rolls Royce, and we have some big fire engines. My favorite is the '36 Auburn Speedster. It's a different experience, actually touching and driving these cars. In a funny way, it feels like watching your videos prepared me in part for this job. Cheers.

[@johnjaques342]

Jay and Donald, you guys are the best! This has been my most enjoyed KZbin video in months - probably since another one of yours! I sold my last Corvair 22 years ago and still muse of buying another.

[@rcmakingtracks18]

The jag u ar, is stunning...

[@BobSakamoto]

First, that Spyder was the roughest car I've ever seen on this channel, but still overjoyed to see it. Wish they'd done an engine shot. A 62 Spyder (but white/red interior) was my second car, bought used. I didn't have much experience at the time, but over the years have come to appreciate how good they were. Two small quirks: You didn't want to miss a shift at rpm because the vital fan belt made 2 90 degree turns and would fly off no matter the adjustment. And inside the front trunk, there was a central deep well which was perfect for holding a concrete block. Why was it put there? The car would get floaty on the front end at higher speeds, and the extra weight cured it completely. Years later, I found a 69 Monza convertible (final partial year, just over 500 built) but it was when I was moving away from the hobby and it needed a lot of attention. Finally, to be that guy, the Tempest they referred to had a flexible "rope" driveshaft, certainly not the transmission.

[@richheckelmann3445]

I never had a fanbelt jump on me so you needed to get the right one and adjust it correctly. there was a simple spring trick that also worked to maintain tension. Front end never lifted on me but you needed to keep the spoiler on the car and not knock it off in a parking lot

[@CLCIII]

ALWAYS fun when they get together! As Always, May God Bless you and yours! 😇

[@johnnydeville5701]

I absolutely love Corvairs! I have early models, late models and forward controls. Rather I'm driving my '65 Corsa convertible with the top down, or one 0f my sedans (early and late), or one of my Rampsides, I enjoy them so much. I've even hauled a Honey Bucket (porta-potty) in one of my Rampsides! I was driving my '65 500 sedan this weekend and the young lady at DQ said my "your car is very appealing to my eyes!" I enjoyed the 170 mile cruise Saturday!

[@Anatoli50]

I’m 6’1”, and drove an XK 120 Fixed Head Coupe for 47 years. It was snug, but my head didn’t hit the roof. My 1963 Series 1 E Type wasn’t any bigger inside, but ingress/ egress was easier when the top was down. I drove my XK 120 from Monterey to Seattle 1100 miles in one long day. It was fun running through the Siskiyou Mountains at 100+ mph playing tag with a turbo Porsche. Later XK’s (140, 150) had more room for the driver and other notable improvements but lost the purity of line and form of the original design. The same thing happened to the E Type throughout its development. Series 1 E Types are the most highly valued today for that reason.

[@hughchamberlain5018]

Someone may want to fact-check me but speaking of the XK engine, I seem to recall reading several years ago that the XK engine won LeMans five times. They certainly were a lovely engine.

[@randledmadden]

As a 66 year old quintessential boomer - I love the selection of these 3 cars. My dad had an XK120 (before I was born) and he was really into racing. As such I got taken to a lot of races as a kid and fell in love with Corvairs at that time (gen 2). Been a Corvair lover ever since. I think they're hugely underrated. Great segment.

[@boyddubard4197]

My 1st car was a 1966 Corvair Corsa with the turbo 4 speed convertible. Loved that ride. New Orleans to Upstate NY 2 times a year for 4 years of college.😊

[@Sezstu]

My mother-in-law had 2 Corvairs consecutively. In 1968 my wife (girlfriend then) and I were using Mom's '65 (or '66) when the fan belt broke. We pulled into a service station which actually had a replacement belt, but changing it was extremely difficult due to minimal clearance.

[@davekostka7151]

My very first car in 1970 was a '65 Corvair Monza I bought for $425. I loved it! Of course, it leaked oil like it had Exxon stock. I needed to be more savvy in performing car repairs at that time, and I would have kept it longer. Of course, I wanted a Camaro with a 327, another car I wish I had kept. The list goes on. Unfortunately, I had to sell one to get another car.

[@ppeterson9359]

Totally enjoy your videos Jay!! They’re all good, but the shop tours are my favorites!

[@SimpleCarGuy]

Absolutely favorite series on this channel! Please continue to do these with museum’s or your own cars!

[@jamesonpace726]

Aircraft guys used to pull non turbo Corvair motors for A/Ex as they were great 150hp, air cooled, prop spinners....

[@61rampy65]

You guys mentioned Dave Garroway. I have an old Sports Cars Illustrated (which later became Car and Driver) from November of 1955 which features the SS100 owned by Dave. His original engine blew up and he replaced it with what he called the "first XK120M ever sold independent of the car". He also called the SS100 as "The Most Beautiful Sports Car Ever Built", and I would have to agree! He used to road race his car, which is how the engine blew up. I'm old enough to remember Dave Garroway, but just barely. The magazine was my dad's.

[@olddynamite]

It's always a nice surprise to get an extra jay leno car video.

[@Mike-hr6jz]

You need to have this guy on more often. The banter is worth the price of admission.

[@andrewh6898]

I love it, educational and the two of you "crack" me up!

[@marinedrive5484]

I'm a three-syllable Jaaaaaaag guy and agree that the coupe is the prettiest shape. It also looks quite good with spats on the rear wheels, which give it an ultra-streamlined look and improve aerodynamics.

[@warrenjones744]

You two jokers are so perfect together and a pleasure to watch. My dad had a Corvair in the 60's I barely can remember riding in it. He loved that car. But alas he traded it in for a station wagon to better suite the growing family.

[@perry92964]

i had a 63 spyder, i paid 600 bucks for it in 97' drove it till 04' and sold it for 600 bucks. it was a good car, the best thing about it was while driving down the highway at 60 mph, windows down you could light your cigarette with one match while having a conversation with a passenger. it really was a pleasure to drive

[@groovygannon]

First car I ever bought was a 1964 corsair monza. 4 door. Auto. Paid like $150. Got it running. Had so much fun. No one my age knew what it was. Older folks it was a conversation piece. Every of age had a story about it.

[@lgude]

My family had 3 Corvairs 2 sedans and a van because we lived on a hill in New Hampshire steep enough so you had to get out and put chains on to get home in a rear wheel drive car such as the Fords my father always bought. He noticed that a friend up the road never had to use chains because they drove a Volkswagen. I ended up with the van because my dad bought a VW camper for retirement travel. It was supposedly just stock but it was much more powerful than either of the cars which were ordinary models. I remember driving that van across Nebraska at a bit over 95 MPH which was its natural comfortable top speed. Seems crazy now!

[@devinlaboda2572]

These two crack me up 😂 I love it! Love Lenos garage, so many awesome and new to me cars.

[@jackrice2770]

Had a '66 Monza Spyder, which I liked the looks of much more than the square older models. Loved it! It was about eight years old when I owned and had been used hard, needed a rebuild, but it went damn quick and, with some custom wide wheels, handled as well as any other sports car I've driven, within its limits. But in '75 I couldn't get rid of it! A fanatic merchant sailor called his wife from his ship and told her to buy it for the $500 I was down to at that point. I was sorry to let it go, but it was either spend the bucks to rebuild it or...eat.

[@Bronzebk]

Great guest. You both blend well together. Very knowledgeable and entertaining.

[@stimpdog53]

You guys are much better with cars than math. the Morgan won at +25% where the Corvair only got +22%, but I like the Corvair too, and a Monza was my first car, too, in 1969.

[@old-corvair-guy]

I still have and love my corvairs. Thank for helping to keep them alive.

[@Pohleece222]

My first car in 1969 was a 1960 four door Corvair. Drove it to college in my freshman year. Unfortunately my $100 Corvair was pretty worn out when I got it. But I’ll never forget that old gal.

[@parrotraiser6541]

It's always a pleasure to listen to Mr. Osborne's erudition.

[@1KJRoberts]

This series is my new favorite. More, please!

[@stephenreeder6608]

I really love this format, Jay and Donald have excellent chemistry between them perfect ying and yang

[@noscwoh1]

The stance and proportion of that Morgan is sublime compared to recent ones.

[@Hey_Its_That_Guy]

Growing up, our neighbor across the street had a Corvair. Always thought it was such a neat car. Thanks for bringing back those memories!

[@danyeager7561]

Great show, and terrific guest - I hope you'll have this guy on again!

[@JimIrelandIrishJr]

I have many memories of the Corvairs, from GMI students overhauling an engine in our apartment in Hazel Park to having my beater '61 Coupe stolen and unfortunately getting it back with still a full tank of gas and the noisy speedometer cable pulled completely out.

[@charleslaing3426]

My first car was my mother's '63 Covair sedan. It did have quirky oversteer because of the weight distibution and the swing axels, but was pretty peppy. It actually was intended to compete with the Plymouth Valiant and Studebaker Lark, and of course the VW Beetle. I learned how to double-clutch downshifting into low on a steep grade when the 63 hp wasn't enough.

[@25kmgb]

Boy I enjoy these episodes!

[@automatedelectronics6062]

Love the banter! Oh, nice cars too!

[@TCEPSD]

Please Jay do one of these every week! It was my favorite part of the CNBC show

[@joelpierce3940]

You mentioned Ed Wellborn. He was at Jim Hall’s Party on the Patio at the release of his autobiography. Midland, Tx.

[@markhodge7]

I miss you making me laugh each night. Salmon Colored Pants, goes down as one of your greats, Love you, Jay!! When you are deadbeat, you are 3 steps ahead!

[@gregedmand9939]

The second car I ever owned was a 68 Corvair. I bought it in 1972 and it had just over 60K miles on it. Being in my late teens with no mechanical experience at that time, I was pretty unaware of what happened to many New Hampshire driven cars at the time. It was a rust-mobile with holes through the floor and more to come. It was safety totaled for rust on its next year's inspection.

[@raisoreo]

Hey Guys, oh great, I’m looking at buying a Corvair and you guys showed it on the new episode with Morgan and Jaguar. And the Corvair is the most appreciated of the three! That means I have to pay more for Corvair! Come on guys, give me a break! I really like the new format of Jay’s show. Cheers!

[@Bill-xx2yh]

Love this, thank you Jay and Donald, seriously "lovely".

[@Czechbound]

*EDITOR* : You forgot to update the video description. Just a friendly message. All the best from Prague, CZ