Conversations with Cornel West | Glenn Loury, Cornel West & Teodros Kiros | The Glenn Show

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Conversations like these are the way back for this country.

[@GnarlyBolt]

HEAR HEAR !

[@ChasingTheMammoth]

@Brandon May In the same way Cornel and Glenn approach every anticipated disagreement by carefully bridging the gap via shared principles, you could make your case rather than implying people who disagree with you are doing so either in deliberate bad faith or ignorance.

[@ChasingTheMammoth]

Intellectual humility really is lacking online

[@ChasingTheMammoth]

Yes, I don't doubt you earnestly believe everyone who has a different ideologically perspective is a dishonest actor lol

[@ChasingTheMammoth]

@Brandon May would love to know how you managed to discern that from literally anything i said

[@shok24199]

Regardless of West's political views, I've never heard an interview where Glenn was able to unleash himself to this degree and be met with honest debate. No umbrage taken, no retreat behind ideology; just honest and heartfelt expression.

[@andremader7326]

Very well said

[@DP-by4fq]

I think this is honestly one of the most informative, impressive & moving discussions I’ve ever heard.

[@christianacker3543]

Agreed. This was a beautiful picture of intellectual exchange and generosity all around.

[@yeaown8139]

I absolutely love how heartfelt and sincere Glenn is. The authenticity. His heart really shines through, as it does for West.

[@russellambrosini5344]

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[@SvenErik_Lindstrom3]

Still, I really prefer Glenn's amazing talks with John McWhorter.

[@billsimms2511]

@@SvenErik_Lindstrom3 Mcwhorter on this panel would have been very interesting

[@annieviolent]

Agreed.

[@noeltaylor3594]

@@billsimms2511 West would have beaten his pragmatism down, as he kinda did Mr. Loury. Mr. Loury is one ofthose economist who doesn't deal much in emotion, but in boxing terms, West had him on the ropes, counter punched him, and had him thinking.

[@stri8ted]

Got to give Cornel credit. I may often disagree with him, but he is clearly willing to entertain opposing views, and not afraid to be challenged.

[@iangoddard5915]

Classical Left, not possessed by today's cancel culture.

[@JohnSmith-hs1hn]

Unlike Trump.

[@JohnSmith-hs1hn]

@@iangoddard5915 Classical left doesn't mean anything if you truly think he's classical left.

[@Abitflippant]

Loom up Prof Richard Wolff if you want to see Prof West from a secular viewpoint

[@taiotoshiburger]

@@Abitflippant eh wolff is ok but he can't hold a candle to west

[@DerryckBirch]

Only 15 minutes in but Cornell made me remember why I found his writing and philosophy so engaging previously. Thank you Glenn for reaching out across the political isle.

[@royhurst1004]

But West isn't part of the Left-Right paradigm. He is much more independent than that. I follow both Loury and West closely for their analysis and I am nourished by both men.

[@overtonwindowshopper]

@@royhurst1004 amen

[@tpsmith800]

Same. Wonderful conversation. Thanks to all involved.

[@JMo-uh5cd]

Yes! This was so refreshing to see people that disagree arguing from such a place of goodwill

[@TheNas45]

@@royhurst1004 Thanks. Sometimes even your opponents have something smart to assert.

[@MrBishopmontgomery]

Professor Loury is such an admirable human being. The fact that he is extremely knowledgeable, yet he transparently wrestles with these complex ideas instead of coming to quick conclusions like so many of our commentators in the world today is humbling. Whether on societal issues, problems facing academia, or even his own personal bout with the faith, He openly and honestly shows what true intelligence does when faced with complex issues....it wrestles. He is indeed an intellect in pure form, and young people everywhere should glean as much as we can from men like him. Since discovering Professor Loury, Mcwhorter, and the great Thomas Sowell, I can say that my life has truly been enriched.

[@TheNas45]

It feels good to talk to your crowd

[@billsimms2511]

Check out David Hasselhoff as well. He is an intellectual powerhouse in his own right .. right up there with Loury and Sowell

[@polythenepam5032]

Don’t sleep on Cornel West!

[@j316slaveofchrist6]

Yes ! Please don’t sleep on Cornel West and the Jesus he exalts

[@MrBishopmontgomery]

@@polythenepam5032 absolutely! He too is a powerhouse!

[@kimmieb9435]

This made me choke up. Three brilliant minds from different political and spiritual backgrounds having a meaningful discussion. Some agreement and some disagreement, but respectful and elevated in their positions and speech. This was a great example of how we should engage with different ideas.

[@emmanuelboakye1124]

👍👍

[@andremader7326]

I felt the same way. Everyone should hear this.

[@jonathandrake8640]

In awe, such are the rhetorical gifts of luminary and early proponent of Critical Race Theory (New Press '95). Glen is no doubt well aware of views that are beyond the pale & discredited but manages to meaningfully engage with West.

[@strezztechnoid]

You are spot on, today's discourse is riddled with pre-arranged agenda set talking points--at best. With discourse, and that is demonstrated here, understanding and growth can happen, without it we descend to our base instincts and worst behaviors.

[@RobertWilliamsRDubJr]

Dr Cornell West’s assessment of Russian Literature is SPOT ON. And his comparison to American black Jazz/art is brilliant. Man…he is so right.

[@dylanstack8710]

One of the best things about modern technology is conversations between brilliant people like these men are widely available.

[@Free.DaLand]

Dr. West really pulls at the root of what it means to be human. The polorization of politics doesn't allow for beautiful long forum conversations like this to happen on mainstream media. Grateful for Glenn Loury and that I stumbled across this. Forward ever!

[@s.l.george7348]

Setting aside his politics, Cornel West is simultaneously exquisitely spiritual and intellectually brilliant. His breadth of knowledge is staggering and he is always engaging. He is unique and a gift. Glenn Loury is, as always, compelling and commanding and equally philosophically gifted.

[@twntwrs]

West's cringe-inducing god-bothering is unbecoming of an intellectual...

[@carolblume7624]

Ikr. He's too radical politically, but you can't help but like him because he is so funny and eccentric. And he is a Christian. I hope he can bring Glenn back to his Christian faith.

[@psharelater172]

@@twntwrs Should an intellectual know the boundaries of their knowledge and knowing?

[@dreamstever]

@@twntwrs Incorrect.

[@twntwrs]

@@dreamstever The sheer sagacity of your argument is truly breathtaking!

[@michaelhands2189]

Listening to Glenn and Cornel together makes me feel like this is what it would have been like to listen to Cicero, Roosevelt, Churchill, and the great orators of history. Feel very fortunate.

[@boliusabol822]

oh boy

[@wildflowerpower]

I think about that often. I just get to click some buttons and suddenly I'm listening to great minds in "contestation!"

[@billsimms2511]

Don’t forget about the other intellectual powerhouses out there today. People like Joe Biden, Oprah Winfrey and Cardi B are just a few

[@chrisfazio9934]

@@billsimms2511 😹

[@TheNas45]

@@billsimms2511 How about Donald Trump and his minions? 😜😂

[@JGSmith82]

Sometimes, I'll listen to things that Cornel West says and it pisses me off. Then I listen to other things he says and find myself speechless, thinking "he's exactly right"....and I take all of that as an affirmation that he's somebody worth listening to.

[@ssevkin]

Same, I have a real soft spot for him even when

[@dipthongthathongthongthong9691]

He's a complex figure. A HUMAN who sincerely grapples with life. The kind of man we should all want to listen to because whether you agree or not you know he is a man of conviction. I'd argue Loury with West is more beneficial to the public discourse than Loury with McWhorter (no disrespect to John) bc it shows that black people ARE NOT A MONOLITH of thought and belief. Two black "conservatives" talking becomes an echo chamber. Conversely it can happen on the left as well.

[@paulyshore1942]

Yeah- love me some Cornel west he’s definitely one of the best leftists. I disagree with some off his things, his heart is in the right place. Unfortunately that’s all too common

[@billsimms2511]

I wasn’t too familiar with Cornel until this discussion. He’s a passionate guy and I’m with him on a few things

[@angiescorner9549]

I have disagree with Cornel on things but he does hit me in the feels. He is a legend

[@abbaeben6409]

When honesty speaks it has no political aisle, it is of no party, left and right disappear. Thank you all for such a wonderful discussion.

[@rollinginthedeep6900]

Just goes to show how different politicians are from intellectuals. Politicians will know the same thing is true and still say the other is wrong; intellectual will go out of their way to try to affirm what is true.

[@lbamusic]

Wow! Never have I heard something like this, at the highest intellectual, ethical, and spiritual thought levels, from Blacks who think, care, and most importantly, love!

[@keithmoore1518]

It is always enlighting when Dr. Cornel West is speaking. Thanks Glenn for allowing Dr. West on your platform, to present the truth.

[@62Cristoforo]

I wasn’t expecting this kind of brutally honest convo, but rather enjoyed it, especially when they’re on a roll, as if you can feel it

[@dancewomyn1]

Inspiring conversation! The willingness to disagree, to question our ideas, to dialogue with folk who have disparate views, then finding those places where we meet and see our shared human experience..This is where true learning happens. To talk only with folk we agree with is nice, that kind of camaraderie gives us a sense of being truly heard, but this is what is needed more and more, right now! More of this please. :)

[@pherwhite]

what beautiful men you all are..........inspiring, heartfelt, clear and so wise. brought tears to my eyes.

[@IzabelParis]

The parallel between Russian literature and Black American music brought tears of beauty to my eyes.

[@hitech0202]

Intellectual powerhouses right here! How lucky are we to be able to learn from these geniuses?! What a great pleasure, indeed!

[@jessicakalfaian851]

Cornel West speaks like poetry. Two of the most brilliant minds and souls I’ve ever heard. Thank you for having this conversation.

[@iamomegaboss]

There were 3 people 🙄

[@userumbleandgettr4freespee501]

West is brilliant? If he were so brilliant, he wouldn’t have the stances he has

[@darrylpete7551]

@@userumbleandgettr4freespee501 if it different from your perspective it’s trash? West is a brilliant man, only a fool couldn’t see.

[@userumbleandgettr4freespee501]

@@darrylpete7551 All the racial and socialist based over thinkers are idiots. It has nothing to do with being different from “ME” & has everything to do with the destruction these people cause. They are all shills there for political purposes. The conversation in 2020 and during President Trump’s term has gone so far whacky with the left, that anyone strongly fighting for that side of things is the moron. Especially the hardcore leftists

[@matthafer2415]

Been digesting as much Dr Cornell West as I can. I've been exposed to his exceptional speaking, this showcases his listening as well. He's just spectacular.

[@jonathandrake8640]

TRY DIGESTING HIS WRITING AS A PROPONENT OF CRITICAL RACE THEORY.

[@matthafer2415]

@@jonathandrake8640 any suggestions where I should start?

[@sliewehr]

This. Conversation. Right. Here. Damn, I wish everyone would listen to these men speak to each other with such love and respect, regardless of their viewpoints,, exploring humanity and exposing their own vulnerabilities.

[@craigramirez948]

Having listened to this excellent conversation (and his appearance on Joe Rogan’s show), I am more than a little ashamed to admit that for years I have judged the proverbial book that is Cornel West by the cover without actually taking the time to listen to him more clearly. Like Glenn, I suspect that there is still much that he and I would disagree with, but as some other commenters have mentioned, his worldview does seem to come from a place of love which I think can be starkly contrasted with many of the prominent “thinkers” that are so prevalent today. Both he and Glenn are demonstrating exactly what our country and world need. They aren’t lecturing (or worse hectoring) one another. Rather, they are challenging, discussing, learning, growing. Thanks to all for having the courage to participate in this conversation (most of which admittedly went way over my head!).

[@DanielSanchez-qs8nr]

A lot went over my head too but it was such a beautiful dance to be a witness too

[@crisjunfan2139]

Agreed. People agreeably disagreeing. A model for civil discourse.

[@parentsarevips]

I agree with you. I am listening to them discuss the poor. I am wondering if Mr. West heard Mr. Sowell's research on poverty. His research indicated that married AA had a similar poverty rate to other communities. Single AA had higher poverty rates than other communities. I take that to indicate that being poor is not so much a political problem as it a social problem on micro level, meaning the family has a great deal of outcome when it comes to poverty. Just a thought.

[@thomaasfist6494]

@@parentsarevips Dr.West is looking at that single parenting vs married parenting issue and saying we need to look at the history of white supremacy and the institutional relationship that influences the outcomes of black Americans. He is not denying the individuals ability to effect their own outcomes but if we ignore the pressures that influence those outcomes greatly than we can not fix those institutional issues to make a more equitable world for all people.

[@forrestchristy6631]

I just want to comment on how gloriously data dense this is for anyone who may have felt like the conversation went too fast - utilize the pause button, rewind if you need to - Mr. Cornel West really did come through with a beautiful standing point at the end of a deep, respectful and most importantly functional process of true dialectic. Seriously useful "Steel Man" material. I absolutely love the 5 day work week advocacy point. It's clear everyone had fun, and I'm positive most listeners did as well. The hard part is going to be conveying this message to faux-intellectuals wherever we can, by strictly avoiding Straw Man fallacies and choosing dialectic without compromise. Regards

[@doobeedoo2]

Expected nothing from this vlog but holy crap from almost the git-go it is full on. I'm shook only 10 minutes in and gotta walk around the block. I wish more people would see this.

[@Nikonfanboy1982]

That was possibly the best conversation I’ve ever heard of people whom disagree yet use it to propel a conversation forward vs letting their disagreements hinder. I strongly disagree with a lot of what Mr. West has to say but I cannot help loving him and admiring the brilliance in his packaging conversation

[@joeruf6526]

Awesome. Bring Glenn home Cornel. Never let your brothers stray far. We all have doubts. Dante answers his doubts beautifully.

[@DrMandrill]

This version of Glenn is so endearing. No defense mechanism; very genuine.

[@DSTH323]

This is proof *conversations* (!) can still happen! Even in 2021!

[@eduardoalvarez1921]

Cornel West is a true Christian. Educated and humble man. His narrative is love and forgiveness.

[@AkilanNarayanaswamy]

Even though I'm libertarian, it's great to see a genuine leftist in conversation with a conservative. Glad to see Cornel West still doing the rounds

[@highpriest8571]

ONE THING ABOUT CORNEL WEST HE WILL SPEAK TO ANYONE EVEN GAVIN MCAINES

[@genzcurmudgeon8037]

@@highpriest8571 Gavin is a beauty.

[@ReyO0]

@@highpriest8571 if you mean Gavin McGinnis then that would be fun. Gavin has a dishonest rap. He’s nothing close to a white suprematist.

[@highpriest8571]

@@genzcurmudgeon8037 legend

[@genzcurmudgeon8037]

@@highpriest8571 beauty legend.

[@jackspratny99]

I am a classical liberal which has put me at odds with many on all sides over the years. As someone who has formal training in economics though I do find myself in admiration and agreement with Prof Loury most of the time it seems but I so welcome him talking to everyone and everybody. Maybe I am naive but I also admire Prof West because I think he speaks with love and not hatred. I wouldn't expect to agree much with brother Cornel on policy prescriptions but I can't be a hater to someone who seems to engage and listen to others with an open heart. Bless both these men.

[@andrepack]

I don't have any training in economics, it just makes sense what glenn references.

[@sirfortesque8757]

Yes brother. We need both. It doesn’t have to be either or. “Free markets” and the “ public good”.

[@thepasswordisrhubarb]

This conversation is the apex of human dialogue and a shining example of what we should all try to be as humans. Most notably, the love and respect these men have for each other and the way they can disagree vehemently. Glen is so efficient and precise with his insights and Cornel so poetic.

[@johnyoung6680]

You can feel Glenn's heart and soul when he talks.

[@anthonynyman167]

One of the most sincere and honest conversations I've heard in a long time. God bless these men.

[@jdion79]

as a centrist and a member of the silent majority... this kind of conversation plays in a loop in my head all day everyday. as a person of color in a country and western band... haha... i have a lot of stuff to work out in my head. man, this was amazing. i check in every few months with youtube to hear new dr. west content. and thanks to this i'm gonna subscribe to brother glenn's channel. fascinating/scary/beautiful content.

[@Smokedilla]

This is arguably the best conversation among black intellectuals I have ever heard. I love the fact that this is an “intra” conversation within members of our diasporic communities. I say that because others, with different interests, have historically weaponized our own ideas against us. I gotta give props, especially to Prof. Loury for recognizing that keeping this conversation black.

[@fredschwartz1259]

Listening to you Dr. West is ALWAYS... ALWAYS a deeply enlightened experience. Sending Luv from Chicago!

[@MrDellasc]

This is the best episode I’ve listened too. I don’t agree with Glen on much, but I wanted to reach out and console the heart in his heart. As a catholic, I’ve gone through similar feelings towards the Church, but I haven’t given up on Christ yet. And Doctor West is an amazing orator, and even though I don’t agree with everything he says, I know he’s coming from a place that isn’t vindictive or angry.

[@noahfranks984]

I’ve had tears in my eyes throughout this whole thing

[@mikegray8776]

Glenn Loury is a most unique and refreshing academic. His words, thoughts and conclusions are so deeply insightful and sincere - and whilst he delivers this in perfectly chosen vocabulary - he is NEVER bombastic or abstruse, and never succumbs to default smart academic jargon. Sure, he is passionate and often animated - but if there is one living source I would turn to for an honest, balanced and understandable insight - on any topic - it is Glenn.

[@emmanuelboakye1124]

Thank you sir👍👍

[@bud1239]

One of the best conversations yet on the Glenn Show! I really appreciate and would like to thank Cornel and Teodros for speaking on the Glenn Show!!!

[@garrettford7232]

The Renegades! The most intellectually curious , profound. relevent, and bravest voices in America Academia today. Stay engaged Glenn!!

[@PR-lf1qr]

This is a beautiful conversation. You could see the light come on in all three of these men

[@morganrainey176]

Wow, this is beautiful. Tuned in merely because of how much I enjoy Glenn. Hoping to enjoy strong debate, about identity politics. But what’s moving me is how clearly Dr West preached the Gospel to a struggling disciple. And what’s surprising me- I’ve only ever perceived Dr West as a race baiting ideologue. Fresh respect for this entire group.

[@noorzanayasmin7806]

Cornel has never been race baiting ideologue.

[@floater5851]

An oasis of realness. So precious to have you gentlemen.

[@American_Gooner]

Man I'm so glad I found out about Dr. Glenn Loury today

[@johnmooney2411]

Gentlemen, thank you for another provocative, inspiring, and incredibly brave discussion. I stand in awe.

[@JosephBojang]

One of my favorite Glen Show shows...great honesty, transparency, and care for one another.

[@lexparsimoniae2107]

I love these people so much. I love the spiritual / emotional direction that immediately sprang up in the conversation.

[@basedcentrist3056]

Glenn absolutely ON FIRE sharing this one far and wide

[@ondolite3789]

What??! Are you sure? Lousy has chosen to extinguish his own fire. Very sad.

[@Ac-ip5hd]

Thanks guys, I’ve been waiting for a serious conservative for the 21st century to have a grown up conversation in long form with Dr. West, and was introduced to a new thinker in the process. I hope to see this good faith debate in service to real dialogical discourse continue between you guys.

[@Ac-ip5hd]

@Aaron Hackett Yeah, I’m exactly on the opposite side of that, except I think there’s plenty of intelligent people in each group not being heard in proper discourse. Mainstream…. Yeah, we’re riddled with anti-intellectual red meat slinging (I think that’s also because the corporate media, wokeness, and the red meat slingers all pick out the stupidest left wing axiomatic articles and statements in the culture war, and we ignore serious discussions from people that would challenge us.) I’m so conservative I love radical thinkers from Dr. West to Jung, Hillman, Taussig’s mimesis and alterity. I don’t agree with Dr. West politically, but man, the way he talks about philosophy, agapic love, Plato, Socrates, Chekhov, and cultural exchange, and the black stake in American culture: he conserves it more than neocon pundits who turned it into a slogan.

[@Ac-ip5hd]

@Aaron Hackett but I totally get where you’re coming from.

[@Ac-ip5hd]

@Aaron Hackett I'll check it out, I've been trying to digest the overload of stuff I read, haven't read as much political stuff lately. Thanks.

[@DSTH323]

One of the most profound conversations I've heard in a long time.

[@ondolite3789]

No, just profound Cornel.

[@joenobk]

This was one of the most honest, expressive, mind opening, deep, respectful, substantive discussions I've heard for years. I want to thank everyone involved for expanding my perspective on enormous issues facing humanity. Our civilization would be much improved if this type of engagement were the model to seek truth and progress. Genuine heartfelt thank you for an antidote to collective psychosis.

[@teresalmassie]

Thanks for a profound philosophical conversation on the economic and political implications of governance on the survival of Black America.

[@Unclejamsarmy]

Rare honesty and genuine dialogue, truly great conversation. I’m politically much closer to cornel west but I also follow and appreciate glen

[@daraghcrowley8435]

This convergence made me happy more than anything else. So beautiful to watch and listen to these men share their hearts and minds so openly. Deep love and respect to them and the spirit of people coming together in this way. Peace

[@charlesislaw]

We need to see more Elders talk and debate like this for the younger generations.

[@xraydavidhr]

This is about as good as it gets. Who could be thumbs down?

[@Honkthentrumpets]

How have I cried twice 6 minutes in. Wasn’t expecting this!

[@jamesholiday321]

My god you too . This feels so personal and it's so honest

[@Salty_Boogers]

I’ve got 12 more hours in this road trip. Good to know I’ll have an hour of this to enjoy Excellent as always

[@SaminHam]

Really glad to see you do this Glenn!! I’m sometimes concerned about echo chambers in your discussions so good for challenging yourself here. Respect

[@logiconlifesupport1899]

Considering how often Glenn and John disagree , I have never considered Glenn show to be an echo chamber

[@SaminHam]

@@logiconlifesupport1899 their disagreements are pretty small in the broader political landscape

[@logiconlifesupport1899]

@@SaminHam I'm not gonna argue with you

[@SaminHam]

@@logiconlifesupport1899 glad we agree

[@TheNas45]

This is not the first time Glenn and Cornel have engaged in conversation or debate. They’ve debated a few times in Boston in the 90s. Glenn was a conservative then became a liberal and now a conservative again. There are always multiple solutions to a problem. They have respect for each other, period. Conversations are not always about winners and losers.

[@TheNas45]

@Brandon May I like both Glenn and Cornel. However, most of the comments seem to be celebrating the wisdom of Glenn while mocking that of Cornel. I, therefore, sense a bias against Cornel, hence most of the viewers of the Glenn show are diehard fans of him. There is a blind spot that I'm detecting. Glenn can't just talk to people that can affirm his positions. That will be preaching to the choir. If we only talk to our kind, no progress will ensue. Cornell West dialogue with anyone including Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, Laura Ingram etc, etc.

[@go2therock]

Regarding the bit where Glenn admits his "cover story" and his guests respond. Time and mortality are doing their work and it is a beautiful blend of humility and perseverance to witness. The concept of the struggle of birth, to be 'born again' may be what we are witnessing. It is humbling to witness. I pray that it is so. I sit here as one among many, I know. A single candle in a sea of lights shining in the darkness, bright and still in devotion one moment, waving and flickering in response to the buffets and blows against it the next. We are the throng who love and pray for our prodigals.

[@valencia4215]

Regardless of West's identification as a democratic socialist, I've always found him to be a bright, likable, and respectful character with good intentions although questionable social and racial analysis. A good historian with consistent nods to music icons that feed his soul. Like Glenn, I also walked away from Christianity many years ago. Yet, ironically this conversation caused a reawakening to bubble up inside reminding me that the one thing humans cannot explain is how the natural world seems to have divine order which never deviates from what it is. Metaphysicians might say we are essentially spiritual beings having a human experience hence, functioning in perpetual conflict and confusion. Wow, I loved this session. Thank you, Dr. Loury.

[@Tayloratjuc]

you might find that many democratic socialists are different than the way the right portrays them...

[@valencia4215]

@@Tayloratjuc I simply go by the meaning of that term void of influence from the right or left.

[@Tayloratjuc]

@@valencia4215 I hope you're aware that Einstein, fleeing the nazis was a socialist (google it), MLK said we might need to move toward a "democratic socialism", Charles Sheldon, the WWJD guy identified as a christian socialist... I find it very hard to believe someone can go by the meaning of the term void of influence. if you've lived anywhere that Reagan was influential the influence is in the air we breathe.

[@valencia4215]

@@Tayloratjuc Lol. That sounds like one could only know that water is wet if someone else confirms it.

[@EternalModerate]

@@Tayloratjuc Most democratic socialists are perfectly fine people, but their economic ideas are still flawed.

[@whitneystreethouse]

Historic. Sincere thanks to all three of these gentlemen for their expressions of intellect, wisdom, and vulnerability.

[@craigsmith1443]

This is a magnificent conversation from three brilliant minds; I do not have the words to express my gratitude and admiration for it and them. Listening to each other, respecting each other, disagreeing with each other, debating each other, and caring for each other --- this is how all debates and discussions should be. This is reason, fact, passion, mind, and heart in service to the Good. America would be healed if we followed their example.

[@andremader7326]

So moving to witness such honesty and trust, on issues of such importance. Made me realize how seldom I feel I can really trust what people say in this space. Glenn, you're a real treasure. Please live to be at least as old as Sowell, and never stop speaking to us!

[@daffyduck4674]

What an honour to listen such a fantastic discussion. I have to admit I had a pretty stereotypical view of Cornell West and whilst there’s much to disagree there was plenty I did. More than anything what struck me was listening to two people who for all the fact they come from very different points on the political spectrum are both underpinned by that most maligned and sneered at in the modern context of ethical positions, namely humanism. It was wonderful to hear them defend the outlook from their own perspective, in such articulate terms.

[@royhurst1004]

Love this conversation between these brilliant men.

[@seanjohnbull1670]

This is very real Glenn. As a believer, I hear you loud and clear brother. This is the song of Solomon.

[@nathanrhodes4131]

Glen the show looks and sounds so much better now! You really stepped up your game!

[@marycarlson3857]

This is phenomenal. Food for the mind and the soul.

[@emmanuelboakye1124]

Glenn loury can explain things so simply. A good teacher can take something that is true and communicate it simply.thank you.👍😁👍

[@andremader7326]

Yes! "The definition of genius is taking the complex and making it simple" - Albert Einstein, apparently. What a pity that so many people think genius is anything that sounds complex.

[@rodbrown8076]

Excellent conversation! I agree with others who say this is the type of dialog that needs to occur in all levels of our society to breakdown the current divisive rhetoric that has seriously infected our society that left unchecked will be our demise. Thank you Glenn for hosting this discussion.

[@rodrickgallien2621]

Dr west your mind Gifting from the Lord is paramount. FROM ME as one Beaumont tx, to Orange Texas for your Mother , May your mother rest in power.Keep on Keeping on....ie...You Hope me man...

[@Drixidamus]

The Christian tones in this, and Glenn's sentiments makes me hope we see Glenn in conversation with Jordan Peterson. Cornell West as well for that matter.

[@kenboyd8925]

@@Jack-nn5wn me too!

[@Abitflippant]

@@Jack-nn5wn have you watched jp and Russell Brand? It goes on for hours.

[@rodneydungan8965]

I love Glenn, so brilliant and though I'm conservative I love Cornel West and his thoughts, it's always good to see a different perspective. I grew up a 3rd generation Seventh-Day Adventist and I can tell you that religion does leave scars. Most judgmental "religions" do. I'm only now opening myself to Jesus and his teaching after a twenty year "sabbatical" and have come to the conclusion that human beings need faith/belief because if we don't we'll begin to worship man and governments, party's, become fanatical with secular "faiths" which appear to have no room for forgiveness or love in their philosophies.

[@lbamusic]

Rodney Dungan...and that pure faith can only come from Almighty Creator God, who gives liberally to those who seek Him with a pure heart.

[@mcnallyaar]

This is in my top ten internet events of 2021 so far.

[@dman5ful]

I could listen to Glenn all day 🙌

[@Krillisander]

The Glenn Show: *3 Brilliant minds wrestle with the future of human existence* Meanwhile, on Netflix: *New show about a deer-boy*

[@JMo-uh5cd]

😆😆😆

[@matthbva]

I won’t lie: I liked the show about the deer boy, AND Iove the Glenn show.

[@rodneydungan8965]

LOL!

[@billsimms2511]

A deer boy?

[@matthbva]

@@billsimms2511 “Sweet Tooth” on Netflix.

[@johnfoppiano7058]

This is by byfar one of the best discussions I have heard on your channel. I am giving all three of you a genuine hug for the thought provoking discord all three of you had. We need more of this. Much more✌👍

[@nothingbutthetruth3227]

If we knew all the answers, their no need for faith! Praise Jesus! 🙏❤️

[@mgriff0309]

Incredibly important conversation, thank you gentlemen!

[@MrAhuraMazda]

LOVE Cornel West. So glad this meeting of two mutaully respected titans could happen. For those hating on Dr West, I implore you to actually put your Anti Woke pom poms down and listen to him. He is not Michael Eric Dyson, and he's not even Woke per se. He's an independent thinker, who is an advocate for black people. That is NOT Woke. He is actually very refreshing, considerate, reflective and articulate and we need more of that. Don't buy these comments that treat him like a verbose Ta Nahisi Coates. He is NOT.

[@BenWeeks]

Agreed, in fact Coates left twitter due to a disagreement with West. For West Coates made White Supremacy into such a powerful mystical force that it would be pointless to resist. West found it harder to engage activism as a kind of self righteous nihilism had taken hold of many, in part due to Coates writing. Coates disliked the correction-but instead of addressing it, and changing course, kept milking the guilt of one group and the resentment of another.

[@MrAhuraMazda]

@Bob Charles Glenn Loury flirts with the idea that there may be a biological explanation for black delinquency. He says we at least have to entertain that scientifically. Now the entire Nazi regime stems from that French theory. Hegel may be the "core seed" of wokeism but i dont believe wokeism takes any of their founding tenants seriously. They take everything and turn it into cheap garbage. So simply by citing Hegel or even Marx isnt enough to disqualify Cornel. And apparently Glenn entertaining a Eugenics style causal factor isnt enough for him to be disqualified in your eyes, so spare me. Your disqualifying of Cornel West on the grounds that he sees some good points made by either Hegel or Marx is the same rah rah rah closed mindedness that we accuse the woke Left of. Youre no different. Not driven by intellectual curiosity, youre just a cheerleader for a different team.

[@MrAhuraMazda]

@Bob Charles btw the same arguments can be made for every single Republican who champions Libertarian Austrian School of Economics principles. Libertarianism and its founders, if listened to in their totality would be a nightmare on par with the worst of Marxism with massive oligarch monopolies owning everything and dumping toxic waste into the water supply they also own. But again, do we silence Ron Paul cause he says we need more Libertarianism or cites the Austrian School? No we dont. Even if Dr West cites Marx ad nauseum, that still doesn't make him woke or unlistenable if what he actually says on its merits seems decent and helpful. Im capable of doing more than saying "oooh he cites Marx, im not listening." You probably havent even read Hegel or Marx lets be honest. I can promise you, Nietzsche is 100 times darker and people cite him all the time

[@dipthongthathongthongthong9691]

@@MrAhuraMazda Well said. "Marxist" as a dismissive epithet is par for the course in the US. Reductive, reactionary labelling. Every serious scholar, intellectually curious person, person with a basic understanding of economics recognizes Marx and his critique of capitalism as indispensable to understanding the modern world. It does not necessarily mean one embraces his solutions. But "Cultural Marxist", a right wing bugaboo, plays well in the soundbite environment and the reactionary echo chambers.

[@TheNas45]

@Bob Charles Peterson is overrated; not on Cornel West level

[@anonosaurus4517]

Great show, this is why I support Glenn's show. I would also add that the reckoning did and has been taking place, beginning before the Civil War, starting in bloody earnest in 1861, and go on from there down to the present day.

[@pattithompsett9540]

so much truth from three amazing minds. i will listen to this several times to reap all the information held here

[@GnarlyBolt]

I am surprised how much I loved this.

[@forrestsamnik1661]

I am a 66-year-old white woman and have been elevated to a perspective that aligns withTruth; spiritually, culturally, and psychologically. Thank you for your illumination 🙏

[@jonathandrake8640]

Why must you first be a "white" woman? I'm ostensibly bi-racial but unlike you my identity along racial lines will not and cannot define me, that is racial essentialism dividing us into political tribes, my faith however, DOES define me.

[@forrestsamnik1661]

@@jonathandrake8640 I appreciate your feedback!

[@mickiemallorie]

Thanks to Glen for giving Doc West his space. There are people who listen to Glen who may have never heard this b4. Maybe they heard West on Rogan. There are sectors of society that don't have ability to understand the complexity and nuance of true lefties and that at the end of the day we are just as torn but have the best interests of everyone in mind.

[@sandradrury1558]

Honorable Glenn. Your struggle with your faith comes out so clearly in your conversations. My prayer is for you to see how the Christians in your past and in your wife’s past has no bearing on your walk with the Lord. If Peter and the apostles had been your focus why would you follow the Divine? No brother, Jesus is your only example of love, and faith and service. Simplistically, your teachings on racism compel your black family to look forward. So much of your faith struggle is represented by exactly what you teach your followers on many fronts. You are the one sheep the Lord pursues as He leaves the other 99. Struggle well brother. He will never leave YOU or forsake YOU.

[@edwardyoung8241]

For me, this conversation could've just gone on and on. I feel a lot of hope when I listen to these gentleman speak. Even the arguments that don't get resolved and won't be for a long time, the path to the solutions is revealed best by conversations like this happen. After righting this, I realize I just said what slider292 already wrote, so I guess this is my 2nd to that post.

[@lames6444]

Please have another conversation, fellas. This was great.

[@Via-Media2024]

A brilliant conversation!

[@jdion79]

THIS NEEDS TO BE A MONTHLY DISCUSSION.

[@eemoogee160]

Really cool discussion. I once stumbled across Professor West's office at Harvard and was starstruck just seeing the door. He was away for the summer but the secretary there said that were he here he would have hugged us, that he was ever brimming with warmth and love.

[@samkim3923]

Thank u for this podcast. I'm going to take my time to digest the depth of feeling and thought I've perceived from this discussion. When philosophically minded, compassionate people can speak a more common language, it can only help us closer to the Truth.

[@jaysway9251]

Was not expecting Cornel West but holy cow, this was a great episode.