Conversations With History - John Mearsheimer & Steve Walt

"Domestic Politics and International Relations"
Conversations host Harry Kreisler welcomes Professors John Mearsheimer of the University of Chicago and Steve Walt of Harvard University for a discussion of how domestic politics influences the making of U.S. policy on the Middle East.

[@jedeye15]

If there was a thing called academic bravery or heroism - this guys would be the living definition

[@tikkunolam613]

Can you imagine what an example it would set for the world if we were able to find a way to live in peace in Israel/Palestine? All the pieces of the puzzle are there: a shared monotheistic tradition, a shared land, and shared interests.We are closer to actualizing this than most people realize.Peace is in the best interest of all parties involved...it is a non-zero sum game.May G-d bless us with the wisdom to see clearly that peace is a matter of creating the conditions for mutual prosperity.

[@MrWhitecloth8]

Interesting!!!

[@Maino88]

This really does mark a remarkable U-turn by these two giants of offensive realism. I've just had to pinch myself to ensure I wasn't imagining it. John Mearsheimer just advocated that, in hindsight, the US should have had close co-operation with Iran. Great to see two giants of realism seeing the error of their previous assumptions.

[@Shpira]

The US political system is in need of reform so as to assure that it works in the best interest of the US populations rather than for those individuals who donate money to political campaigns.

[@guruapa]

i study international relations. i must buy this book now

[@haupper]

@4bimmers lol. Sounds like it was composed on a computer the night before the first show aired.

[@emotionalinvalid]

The problem is not lobbies. It is the fact that these lobbies have such an influence on our lawmakers. There should be a constitutional amendment that bars foreign or corporate lobbies from our lawmakers, and any lawmaker or prospective one who accepts lobby money for election campaigns is committing a crime. The private and public sectors must be seperate. The fact that they are not is why our political system is so corrupt and disturbing is that it is legal corruption.

[@AtlasandLiberty]

A really great book that should be written is one that explores the contrast between the Partitions Germany / Poland (Poland partitioned many times see Europe Map 1772, 1792,1793, 1810, 1815 through 1920 & Post 1945). Why in Europe successful with stability and why Partition in Middle east went wrong. I argue the Soviet Union's opposite Foreign Policy. Refer to the Book: "The World was going our way: The KGB and the battle for the Third World" 2005. Pages 139-262.

[@Mister0Alexi]

@lacarneceria613 it's true. It's probably M & W's most significant shortfalling in what otherwise is generally decent scholarship

[@evamerritt9308]

I’m listening in 2022. Why does Israel get $10 million dollars a DAY now in foreign aid?

[@christophmahler]

«The most immediate danger in the Middle East, according to Mahan, was Russian pressure upon Persia. (...) To counter Russian ambitions in this area, Mahan urged the sea powers to support the creation of a "highly developed modern state, with an effeciently organized army and navy", situated in "Asia Minor, Syria and Mesopotamia".» ("The problem of Asia: its effect upon international politics"; Alfred Mahan; 1905, "Introduction to the Transaction Edition" by Francis Sempa; 2003)

[@aristocris]

Por qué no lo subtitulan?

[@chrisjohn1284]

taco taco burrito

[@anubis1405]

What do you mean by walt and waltz?!

[@Shpira]

You kinda missed the point its not about AIPAC its about the way the US political system works. As long as you have political contributions from lobby groups this kinda thing will continue...furthermore its not about Israel. Its about everything including the US health care, construction regulations, oil drilling, the kyoto protocol and many other issues where there is no balance of power between two pressure groups.

[@wotan20]

-Cont.- Book sellers are picketed, editors are intimidated, university presses and distributors are threatened, university presidents are blackmailed, local and national candidates are browbeaten and smeared, meetings are canceled and venues are pressured, -Cont.-

[@antonio703]

@innyopti no te preocupes, cuando alguien no tiene argumentos para refutar aprovecha cualquier falta que tengas en el idioma en el que escribas para tratar de ridiculizarte¿motivo? que defiende lo indefendible, le faltan argumentos asi que tiene que utilizar lo que carece de importancia.

[@WingThaiJ]

@perussell66 - You read what Zahir admitted to... as long as they have an argument against Israel, there is a better chance for Arab Unity.. Common enemy .... Again, they pulled out in 2005; what happened? You know what happened.

[@abaouais1]

34:00 = then why did they adopt it if it was so obviously misguided and doomed to failed?

[@antonio703]

@innyopti ja ja ja

[@joecasey7415]

These guys are underplaying the situation. The Israel "Lobby" is in fact a massive Crime family that bribes, blackmails, extorts, and murders people

[@wotan20]

-Cont.- their position in strategic executive offices and their army of academic scribes from Harvard, Yale and Hopkins churning out bellicose propaganda in the US media. What is striking about the position papers and op-ed reprints in the Daily Alert is the total absence of any deviation from official Israeli pro-war positions: -Cont.-

[@wotan20]

-Cont.- The ZPC is much more sinister both as a transmission belt for the policies and interests of a colonial power hell-bent on domination in the Middle East and as the most serious authoritarian threat to our democratic freedoms: no single individual who dares criticize can escape the long hand of the pro-Israel authoritarians. -Cont.-

[@tikkunolam613]

J'accuse Mr. Mearsheimer.

[@jalllaaavg]

You accuse him of knowing or not agreeing?

[@WingThaiJ]

Sometimes having the power via $ contributions is a good thing. U don't need $ to realize Israel are favorable to what surrounds them; U just need common sense. Certainly they r going to do things disagreeable, as our own country does. I prefer the democratic process in Israel than Sharia law in surrounding countries &While all are not anti-Semitic, a # of people allow such a feeling to dominate their thought process.

[@WingThaiJ]

@perussell66 - BTW, the PLO admitted that the entire thing against Israel was only a means to unite the Arab community and admitted that the palestinians had no more rights than the Israeli's did. If you really want me to dig up the exact quote, I will do this for you along with the guys name who said it.

[@innyopti]

Its like someone decided to write about shit that does not make sense and then you go thumbs down bc you are honest enough to call duck by its name. ROFL. PC Patrol is ruining USA.

[@innyopti]

Es un tema academico. Estamos en clase de idiomas? Cual logica existe? Si estas viendo halgo en otro idioma y no entienes aprendalo. Es la palabra exacta... Ignorante. O como es profe??

[@tikkunolam613]

Solidarity with one side over another is not justice, although it is proffered as such. Solidarity with one side OVER the other only exacerbates the problem. The discourse is so tinged with racism and hate (on all sides), each claiming to be acting justly. Justice framed in terms of a victim and a victor (as a zero sum game) is facile and dangerous, and will not lead to peace. Justice is a dialectic. Justice is a non-zero sum game (win/win or lose/lose).

[@hufclufc]

israel deserves all their criticism...and then some! of course anyone who does so is immediately labelled anti semitic. This is the ADL's et al's raison d'etre.

[@WingThaiJ]

@perussell66 You know why, don't you? They were offered everything they could possibly want and Arafat turned it down. Again, PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein admitted in a March 31, 1977 interview with a Dutch newspaper Trouw admitted that the Palestinian people do not exist. He states, "The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity." The Qur'an 17:104 - states the land belongs to the Jewish people

[@HamidSain]

the basic presumption here is that the US is a Democracy?

[@WingThaiJ]

@kadanwallaSBaha All countries, how own need to correct things, but as a whole Israel is a friend of US &contributes to world health via their inventions

[@DJO1O1]

These are the two brilliant scholars of UoC and Harvard? *rolls eyes* Hannah Arendt, they are not.