Convicting & Sentencing Animals to Death During The Middle Ages

[@itsacorporatething]

Why would you make the pig wear a human mask if you want the other pigs to recognize the convict as a pig and their execution a warning.

[@greatexpectations6577]

Great point 😂

[@coolandgood1010]

I'm guessing they wanted to humiliate the pig by putting a human mask on it? So that the other pigs would see that this is the fate that awaited them if they were to commit the same crime? Imagine a human having to wear a pig face mask on their way to punishment? It would be humiliating. It also could be a symbolic thing since the law apparently viewed humans and animals on the same legal par.

[@cainmathewson1857]

Lolz love it

[@h.huffen-puff4105]

Maybe they believed the piggy was a human reincarnated. 🤷‍♀️

[@stevem.o.1185]

Have you seen The Onion's "Porkin' Around America?" I imagine it's something like that.

[@lightyagami1752]

"Medieval judges believed in equality between animal and human rights" and "Both animal and human prisoners were treated in exactly the same way" are sentences that are somehow equally heartwarming in their enlightenment and horrifying in their ignorance.

[@jonathandoe2316]

Nice couldn't have put it better.

[@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307]

Animals guilty of "beastiality" with a human should be guilty of humanality!

[@ashgonza92]

Can't believe they killed that rooster for laying an egg 😂

[@richardblackmore9351]

Speaking of animals, I would be really interested in a video on pets if you have done the research. I know that people have had pets since ancient times. The ancient Egyptians buried their pet dogs and cats, and pets are mentioned in ancient Greek tragedies. What was it like to have pets before modern medical science? Did they live as long as they do today? Could they have possibly been healthier, ironically, than are dogs of today because of less inbreeding? We're pets loved and treated like part of the family the way we see them today, or merely kept for practical purposes like hunting or keeping property free of vermin?

[@Toshiro_Mifune]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKnPlJxnmZelhck here's a fraction of your question answered. same dudes have done doe the vikings as well. good stuff.

[@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307]

They still do it these days, its weird its always dogs they dont do it horses, cows, wild cats!

[@SallySpr0ut]

Imagine ordering flies to appear before a clergy and trying to banish them 😂😂

[@greatexpectations6577]

One must not forget that the medievals believed that animals possessed a moral agent like humans, all be it at a smaller scale. Therefore, it makes sense to put a violent animals on trial like human defendants.

[@heycrystalheyy]

Albeit 😭

[@tbjtbj4786]

I wonder how many parents killed the child. No shaking baby syndrome back then. And put something the the hog would eat on it.

[@IIIAmTheObserver]

Yeah, except an animal can't talk or even understand wtf is going on lol..

[@GillfigGarstang]

Which isn’t in itself incorrect; the absurdity in these cases comes from the idea that an adult animal can somehow participate in a social contract the way an adult human might. In a sense people now treat animals as possessing something equivalent to the moral agency of a human child or mentally disabled person; they can act of their own volition and even act maliciously but in most cases the blame for any harm they cause is directed at the individuals tasked with controlling their behaviour.

[@arte0021]

I thought they thought that animals had no soul

[@hesh8367]

“Be gone, vicious flies! The power of Christ compels you!” If that worked for the Church back then, I’m going to try it next time one finds it’s way into my home. I’ll let you all know how that works out.

[@rpannier]

You could try to blow them away with the 'Wind of God' like Kenneth Copeland

[@cadillacslim73]

🤣

[@deer563]

If you want the flies to go away just surround yourself with fans

[@CBrown86]

Yes try it on a mouse too!

[@hesh8367]

Update alert - flies may not follow Catholicism. Possibly atheist. Couldn’t get a good read on them. Perhaps they weren’t fooled by my lack of a big fancy hat.

[@jeanettw2341]

"How was your day at work?" "Oh, it was great, I hung a pig, donkey and chicken for murder."

[@yurtnurtgarr]

Defendant: "Shoo, Shoo! Bad fly! Get off my face! This is no way to behave in court!" The fly: *b u z z*

[@Lordkripple]

Love it haha

[@DrHenryAuD]

The fruit flies in my kitchen after I banish them: 👁👁 👁👁 👁👁 👁👁 👅

[@azuraroycroft2419]

🤣🤣🤣

[@cainmathewson1857]

This comment is greatly greatly underappreciated

[@bumfluffmcregor3730]

If these animals do the crime they have to do the time

[@bumfluffmcregor3730]

@Nature&AnimalLoverGuy88 not the ones guilty of crimes no

[@bumfluffmcregor3730]

@Nature&AnimalLoverGuy88 only the law abiding ones

[@thewasatch208]

I don't know how I found this channel, but I'm glad I did.

[@Feelthefelt]

Can you imagine if we were this brutal to humans? Oh wait.. nevermind..

[@elvenkind6072]

Like putting people inside cages for decade after decade, behind closed doors, only giving them 1 hours out of the 24 each day to see blue skies and smell fresh air, before being forced into a concrete room again. Seriously: Behead me instead of such a fate.

[@Feelthefelt]

@@elvenkind6072 Right? The video is entertaining because of the "It's absurd we would treat animals like this" but the real truth is, it's absurd we treat humans like this.

[@Orangestardust]

Don't we kill animals now in the present if they bite someone? How were they any stranger than us now?

[@marra9654]

@@Feelthefelt It's absurd we treat animals like this because we don't expect them to know and understand human morals. We can train dogs and we can stay away from wild animals, but there's always going to be a barrier between us. This means when an animal either follows it's instincts and "protects its territory" from hikers minding their own business, or snaps and hurts a family member for whatever reason, we don't expect it to go through our legal system and explain why it happened. We have no systems in place to help the animal get mental healthcare and there are no socioeconomic government programs the animal can apply for. Animals don't have to apply for a gun. I admit the prison system in America is effed up in a lot of ways but we also hold humans to a much higher standard, and humans generally understand that killing and maiming others is wrong.

[@velvetpilot2008]

@@marra9654 Thank you!!!

[@Oooo-bi7bi]

Loving your channel. It’s a shame they don’t present history the same way at high school. They could make it much more interesting for kids. I’m a big kid that loves history.

[@dineen1575]

Agree 100% My high school World History teacher stood in front of the classroom everyday and told History like a real story. It really made a difference and kept it interesting, especially the Greek mythology chapters. Most students were really successful in her class.

[@Oooo-bi7bi]

@@dineen1575 that’s good to hear.

[@danquaylesitsspeltpotatoe8307]

I want details of the donkey and pig who had reduced sentences!

[@_Coffee4Closers]

In 1916 the Town of Erwin Tennessee (USA) hung an circus elephant for murder. The elephant was actually convicted of murder in the nearby town of Kingsport where the crime happened. However, Erwin was the only nearby town with a rail-yard crane large enough to use to lift an Elephant.

[@lucianograff6512]

This is mentioned in the video

[@CountessKitten]

This is the craziest coincidence lol. I am obsessed with two things on KZbin, or actually, just in general! These two things are history, especially odd history, and also a True Crime case about a missing little girl, Summer Wells, who is from Kingsport Tennessee. Imagine my surprise when I see a comment here on one of my historical channels having anything to do with the Summer Wells case, lol!

[@_Coffee4Closers]

@@CountessKitten Yes Summer Wells case is BIG up here in East Tennessee.

[@CountessKitten]

@@_Coffee4Closers yes, it's pretty big all over the US, even world! I am obsessed by it! I just want to find her, and it's so so many rabbit holes it's unbearable

[@grantross2609]

you can find really weird photos of this notorious moment in history....

[@nergregga]

Who else is showing this to their naughty pets as a cautionary tale? 😂

[@klausgh]

I can't. I've already tried, sentenced, and executed them.

[@brandedsw0rdsman1]

lol

[@ZarHakkar]

bro pet owners are insane

[@karlalandaverde3113]

NO😥😓

[@andreweden9405]

I was honestly surprised that there weren't any stories of cats being persecuted. The poor kitties took a lot of abuse in the Middle Ages! However, much of that changed once it was learned that cats would help get rid of the mice and rats that carried the fleas that transmitted the plague!

[@kellykane7586]

I can see the confusion with mammals, such as farm animals domestic cats and dogs... But the thing with the flies was just crazy! And is it me or does it seemed like the punishment for everything was death!? Torture and death? Or if it wasn't too bad they would strangle you before they burned you alive..😞

[@RozettaVyper]

This is why I believe things like television, radios, video games and internet put a halt to all of this. Once we got movies, tv shows, video games and internet, all of a sudden we stopped with the whole everything must be tortured. In fact, public executions and humiliations were entertainment for the masses at the time.

[@MissMentats]

My mums cat literally just bit me, I’m going to hire a solicitor

[@greatexpectations6577]

Hire me.

[@Apegabe]

😅

[@merikatools568]

Just don't bugger it's litter hole

[@jamesmichael20910]

If you are interested in this topic, the go-to resource is The Criminal Prosecution and Capital Punishment of Animals by Edward Payson Evans (1906). A very interesting read.

[@kathryncarter6143]

Thanks for the source

[@AS-qg1xu]

I'm going to try to get that book. Thank you James.

[@satapon4129]

I kinda understand because of how villages were set up, you had to make sure everyone was safe. But the punishments given were quite awful. I admire how they viewed animals on the same level as humans though, I bet they treated their well-behaving animals with a lot of love!

[@Beastgrows]

Yeah, a whole lotta loving! Bestiality was rife between 1000-1800CE (NOT AD!!) It's Common Era because we have zero evidence of the Bible's veracity.

[@satapon4129]

@@Beastgrows My country is next to Wales, I know about that type of love and I do not like it lol 😶 But nooo I mean like, normal "Betsy the cow is like family to me, I read her poems and play my Medieval instruments for her" 😭

[@satapon4129]

@@Beastgrows I mean... Beastiality is still disgustingly rife, so yes AD lol 😶

[@jessica_R_9167]

People didn’t get much of anything extra for being well behaved back then, except maybe a place in heaven, wonder if any exceptional animals made it into medieval heaven?

[@satapon4129]

@@jessica_R_9167 Medieval heaven still sounds a little more like hell in my standards lol. But yeah I'm 100% assuming they believed good animals went to heaven!

[@carmenmonoxide7459]

THAT was really interesting. This channel is fast becoming my favorite.

[@Strabo4]

Aww, you bring up Mary but no mention of Topsy, the elephant Thomas Edison electrocuted to showcase the dangers of their competitor's AC system!

[@kathryncarter6143]

Very sad

[@rhondajohnson8310]

Sacri-licious.... Love it! Keep up the great work!

[@derekjohn178]

During the Napoleonic wars a monkey was shipwrecked in Harlepool. Because it couldn't speak English a court decided it was a French spy and was duly hanged. Since then local residents havebeen known as monkey hangers.

[@thepaleceltic7137]

Wouldn't it be fantastic to see Judge Judy get worked up into a tizzy and sentence an animal and its owner to death for buggery???

[@aldiboronti]

There's a great quatrain in one of Dryden's satires (MacFlecknoe I think). "The woman that committed buggery, Was rightly sentenced by the law to die, But 'twas hard fate that to the gallows led, The dog that never heard the statute read." Excellent channel, just subscribed.

[@tmr4342]

This reminds me of the Blackadder episode "Witchsmeller Pursuivant"

[@joanhoffman3702]

Beelzabubbles!

[@yager943]

and thats why aliens keep a dintance of couple of lightyears away from SOL system and only visiting us every 2000-3000 years :))))))

[@rosemarysynnott6544]

Finally a comment to like lol

[@jonj1163]

You are kidding me. Just when I think I've heard it all. The part with the flies was particularly hilarious.

[@SpiltBowlOfCereal]

This is both funny and sad at the same time

[@bakerfftoo2912]

Boi you'll be rocketing to million sub in 3 months keep it dude

[@jackiereynolds2888]

Well when you think about it, if some animal IS vicious or bites, injures, or actually kills someone 'today', - said creature is STILL imprisoned, relocated, or yes even dispatched.

[@kingexplosionmurderfuckoff9376]

Exactly. We are still bad today

[@thebilldozer7970]

Pretty sure it is mostly dog attacks in America, and yes if a dog is vicious it needs to be put down.

[@fighterck6241]

@@thebilldozer7970 usually due to poor care and training by its owner...

[@Ashurbanipal7446]

@@kingexplosionmurderfuckoff9376 if an animal kills someone or maims someone it should die, what are you on?😂

[@arte0021]

@@kingexplosionmurderfuckoff9376 so if we were good we would allow dangerous and vicious animals to roam free and do more damage?

[@Apegabe]

Medieval madness indeed...

[@MasterHastur]

The ending got my hopes up for including the 19th century execution of a monkey in Hartlepool... For being a French spy. True or not it's still a banger 😂

[@C.V.C.494]

Someone make a channel named Present day madness!!!! Great content!

[@kathryncarter6143]

Will have to go to Florida for that one.

[@akumarmalai]

Dude your channel is the only one that I have watched more than 5 videos and still counting.

[@joemama397]

This reminds me of modern day South Sudanese trial of a ram convicted of murdering a woman

[@jonatandybro1205]

You should make these into a podcast - just release the audio. The stories are so full of details they'll work perfectly even without the pics

[@sophroniel]

You can do that with yt premium tho? As in, you can turn the screen off or go into other apps whilst letting yt play...

[@deeperinsider2544]

there's a compilation on the channel. works just like you want

[@feelthejoy]

Play this and don’t look at your phone - boom, you have a podcast

[@impofstpete727]

I recall a case in the old west when Governor Hedley Lamarr had a man and a horse hung at the same time.

[@nefariousteapot8676]

Good content, but there were some mistakes in pronunciation. 'Bestial' is pronounced as 'Best-ial', not 'beast-ial' and while one might 'sow' a field as one 'sews' a dress, a female pig sounds like sour without the 'r'.

[@marcuscicero3576]

Great stuff!!! Keep it coming!!

[@chrisper94]

Cruel and inhumane punishment. Literally inhumane.🤭

[@jonathandoe2316]

Everytime I watch these videos I feel like playing Skyrim VR. The title and picture of this literally made me laugh out loud like you serious. And I'm the type that generally like animals more than people.

[@CrackingCody]

These animal criminals should be ashamed of themselves! Bet the other pigs had seconds thoughts of chewing on people after these sentences! (I love this video)

[@lilbullet158]

When sentencing Insects one must remember : *Time Flies like an Arrow* *Fruit Flies like a Banana*

[@AS-qg1xu]

Very entertaining video. However that's so extremely sad about the children that were killed especially the baby whose face got eaten by a pig and whose arms got ripped off by the pig. How horrifically sad.

[@johnnys3487]

This was awesome can you make more medieval true crime?

[@sophroniel]

Read bede, he wrote some scandalous sh1te

[@justinakers3196]

This sounds like an episode of South park. There HAD to have been people just shaking their heads at that trial, at least I hope

[@BeastlyMussel61]

Always interesting thinking about these medieval towns and areas and the battles they will witness hundreds of years later.

[@MsDboyy]

I don’t know what I was expecting when I clicked on this video but 🤔🤷‍♂️ It’s still pretty crazy and surprising

[@davehoward22]

How does the convict plead? "Moo"

[@C.V.C.494]

Here's why the channel is named medieval madness. Good news is we haven't improve as much as we think..

[@SpamMouse]

Sir, Your videos are really good.

[@djm24able]

I live in Tennessee! You can imagine the shock I felt when you said Tennessee lol.

[@deltonmcclary7341]

Did they eat some ham and bacon after the poor piggy "went to market"??

[@djdeemz7651]

Super max pig is too stringy

[@Chadmiral]

The flies have got to be the most hilarious one on this list lol.

[@speedingatheist]

4:24 The stock footage shows the town of Füssen in Bavaria, my birthplace. What a coincidence... ;)

[@CBrown86]

Lmao “excommunication of a mouse” 😂 The only way to excommunicate a mouse is to kill it. They will keep coming back until they are dead

[@laneatkinson6441]

Jesus, who knew that human children are considered a delicacy by pigs??

[@jcire4785]

I sometimes wonder if we ever really moved on from our primitive state. Trials for animals?! Lol

[@BrianHassanBadi]

* Hi, I'm Saul Goodman. *

[@toryistatertot5394]

I love the attempts not to outright laugh.

[@JoshuaNorton]

The only outlandish thing about this is how this was allegedly treated so official with court and all. Them getting killed for killing a human is still the norm, mind you. Animals that attack humans get put down, don't forget. It's just that we skip any judicial procedures and hand over the animal to the vet right away. We save the legal proceeding for the owner who might be guilty of negligence. Imagine how a history youtuber 500 years from now will judge us for this.

[@willy4170]

In those cases the responsibility is always of the owner, so the right thing would be to process the owner for negligence and spare the animal.

[@ReaperCH90]

I like your optimism

[@flannelpillowcase6475]

unless it's dog attacks. for some strange reason, dog owners are not held responsible for their dogs attacking people anymore. just take a look at some dog attack reportings, especially in California.

[@420deadbirds4]

@@willy4170 At that point the animal is now just a liability and not fit to be integrated with humans. Owners fault or not the animal is damaged and should be put down. Owner should still be punished though.

[@kingexplosionmurderfuckoff9376]

@@willy4170 Exactly

[@michaellyons5208]

How many times have I told you children to stop horsing around!?

[@angr3819]

Isn't sow pronounced as in ouch but without the ch?

[@segalman]

Torturing human is one thing, but sentencing animals like WTF?😂

[@nkohu]

Love this channel. Are you gonna do just Middle Ages or other periods too?

[@HornyIndianMan]

He should stick to the Middle ages for the most part but do the Seventies now and again for shits and giggles. Those were wild times.

[@nickdiaz1814]

well the channel name is "Medieval Madness" , that should answer your question

[@thewhitewolf58]

Nice concept but when animals have a very low idea of complex concepts i feel like its just more of a show trial for the humans involved.

[@toko_ribbon]

My face the whole time watching this 🥴😝😂🤣

[@realnizefilms]

Is MedievalMadness part of the thoughty2 expanded universe?

[@TheGedas900]

I realy enjoy your content my friend, do you have a patreon?

[@MrSpacelyy]

Animals still get the deathpenalty. If a dog bites someone, he or she often is executed for example. Horses if they hurt their ankle? Deathpenalty.

[@chendaforest]

I'm going to show my cat this if she keeps misbehaving...

[@tricivenola8164]

Gosh, those Medievals were deluded! While in the early 2000s, people's lives and careers were ruined simply by accusation, whole sections of society believing them culpable simply on the say-so of one or two people.

[@ItsGroundhogDay]

How common could this have really been?

[@sophroniel]

I totally understand this. The victims were mostly such innocent young children and infants that the grief stricken family and community would desperately need some place to pin their misery, and by prosecuting the (mostly) pigs who did these things, some sense of validation, vindication, and absolution, knowing that justice has been served and that the limits of retribution have been carried out, so as to bring some sort of relief to grieving folk. Otherwise, the idea that _someone_ must pay for this crime goes unsatisfied, and breeds anger, regret, hate, and other actions that could tear a family-or even the wider community-apart. By executing the animal perpetrators as if they could receive judgement (by way of having the same degree of consciousness) to the same degree as a human, they are meteing out a clean sentance and consequence, so that all involved can move on.

[@tiddybearkush]

I believe the same.

[@rosemarysynnott6544]

And the donkey and cow that were sodomized?

[@Down_the_Wind]

Pit bulls would definitely be on the top of this list, breed wise in todays times.

[@CookingwithStormi]

These people were bored …

[@killaken2000]

the animals should have been judged by a jury of their peers - that being other animals (pigs, donkeys, elephants, etc.).

[@apogeus2]

you getting more views on your videos! im sure glad

[@gavenmace7779]

Im still giggling about the fly trial haha. the defendant managing to get the flies an acre of land to retreat to is so funny. But overall the idea of certain animals getting their own trial makes sense. Like you explained with the last two modern cases, thats logical. The animals are never intended to represent themselves but like with the modern bear case, its not so much the bear but the reasonability of the park rangers to not let that happen. Elephant makes sense too.

[@elderlord5164]

Wait...are you saying that you don't think other animals are sentient?

[@anitarichmond8930]

I’ve heard of execution on animals before, tragically my daughter’s little friend was the victim of a vicious dog attack

[@knowyourrights9793]

Tell me!! Tell me what other KZbin channels can you find such Amazing Content!!!! This channel is on a Level all it's Own!!!!

[@KingdomDumb]

Anyone who doesn't think that education is important, or takes it for granted in modern civilization, needs to watch this. Helps you understand why things such as Science are so important. If not to just dispel quaint religious superstitions.

[@robertabray-enhus3198]

Those people were so ridiculous then Why didn’t they just eat the guilty animals?

[@pain.497]

When we look back on this it's quite dumb but that's why we evolved from said times

[@ZealKingdom]

These trials were such a dog and pony show.

[@rjc7289]

So if a medieval executioner killed pigs on a regular basis, did he at least get to keep the meat?

[@richardpadden]

As a long life animal lover, I find this rather brutal. But, that was then and this is now.

[@SignOfTheTimes008]

I know what you mean. I feel sympathy for those that suffered for evil dictators that ran things back then. Even though their suffering is over now, its just not right and just like inflicting pain and watching those, including animals suffer.

[@garrymcdonald5456]

We still kill animals if the even attack humans let alone kill them.

[@zachdalmaso2131]

What's being done to animals on farms today for mass meat & dairy production is more brutal than anything that was done to animals in medieval times.

[@milkwalkerjones633]

@@iii___iii Have you or do you just believe what you see on KZbin?

[@dickrichard626]

That sounds inspecific and dumb.

[@saltymemesmith]

I couldn't bear the last one story

[@Simon-1965]

Is it any different from destroying a dangerous dog in the modern day?

[@debralittle1341]

Did they really believe animal's knew the situation difference between right and wrong? To us this seems ridiculous.

[@theshadowman1398]

Obviously lawyers were there the profit from this as much as possible.

[@stevenguegens7047]

The dog 🐕 would of said to it's lawyer c'mon man this is some kind of ruff justice being meted out to ME

[@watchout5508]

Id give an arm to watch a medieval animal trial XD

[@siemprerosso]

Why was pig made to wear human mask while being on trial is something we'll never know...

[@Ann-ub4mf]

Damn! Even the Animals where not safe!😮😬

[@richardcooley6061]

This whole vid sounds like a concept skit from Monty Python! (judge) "How dost thou plead?" (dog) '(Whining)' (judge) "I do not think I appreciate the tone of thy voice!" (dog) "Bark! Bark!" (judge) "Thou art in contempt of this court! Thou shalt face the same fate as thy bestial cohort; the sentence is DEATH!" (dog) '(Whimpering)'

[@nostromo4217]

Basel is in Switzerland, not Germany.