Cool conversation between Spider-Man and Venom (MUA2)

[@CoolGuy-te1pt]

It’s so weird not hearing Spidey actually talk

[@andrewgarfield9898]

So awkward

[@DontKnowDontCare6.9]

He pretending to be Link.

[@mudkipzuzu]

Just think of it like you’re reading the comics again

[@kenallenchannel3911]

It really is

[@StylinSamrski85]

peter staring him down just makes him look like he's imagining what peter is saying or looking like a psychopath

[@jonintrovertednerd9988]

I'm not sure if you know what this thing antisocial personality disorder is. I think you mean "like a psychotic madman". Gargan has high antisocial personality disorder traits by lore.

[@StylinSamrski85]

@@jonintrovertednerd9988 oh ok i didn't know that

[@trasegorsuch5140]

I keep forgetting that Mac Gargan AKA the Scorpion was Venom for a while.

[@GodsRighthandman]

yea i totally forgot that this wasnt eddie

[@emmanuelojurongbe2469]

​@GodsRighthandman Me too. I keep thinking it was Eddie Brock because he is my favorite version of Venom

[@selinawalsh9075]

This game is such an interesting time capsule of what the current status quo was for the Marvel Universe at the time, I love it.

[@AutumnWoodham]

@@selinawalsh9075 Edge of Tomorrow too with Eddie being Anti-Venom at the time.

[@rudedude7874]

A long while

[@floodrunner_2042]

Venom: Great, the web-head wants to talk Spider-Man the whole video: 😐

[@jbktpl1245]

Oh Lord, he was the OG before the Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Venom jokes. 💀

[@theultimatespider-websling3950]

So that’s who under the Symbiote, Mac Gargan? Well that explains the look

[@thebloodedge284]

Yep, it's Gargan.

[@Hyena-t4r]

He even became Spider-Man when he joined Norman Osborn's Dark Avengers.

[@theultimatespider-websling3950]

@@Hyena-t4r WHAT?!

[@Hyena-t4r]

@@theultimatespider-websling3950 it's true.

[@kylesinkovich8332]

​@@Hyena-t4rIt was still the symbiote, but changed back into the Black Suit. This game is based on the Secret War comic and Civil War comic. In the Civil War comic Venom is Mac Gargan, which is the obvious reason why he looks that way, plus the voice. However in this game he has a alternate outfit which makes him look like the Edward Brock Venom.

[@thejordyoshi]

"Not as much as the ladies do." I didn't need that mental image.

[@xX_EltKLLgm-ng_Xx]

Sinister Spider-Man is a mini series showing Mac Gargan Venom masquerading as Spider-Man, he gets positive media attention and is a super star of sorts. He uses his fame to acquire lots of random women throughout the series. "Grab an ass or three, stick your tongue down a girl's throat" - one of his quotes from it

[@zachbyrd5968]

I forgot how weird Venoms voice was in this one.

[@Savagewolver]

Well it’s not Eddie. Unless I’m mistaken, Mac had much more control.

[@cujohjosefumi1252]

​@@Savagewolverto the contrary, Gargan lack the morale and will power of Eddie, so the symbiote usually was in control, which transform him into a canibal

[@madcap3450]

​@@SavagewolverGargan was by far the worst venom host and started the idiotic trend of "venom is literally whoever wears the suit" which marvel continues to this day

[@headshotmaster138]

​@@madcap3450I felt the same way as Harry being the venom host in the newest game.

[@thespider-boy9497]

More like in the newest adaptations. He was also Venom in the Ultimate Spider-Man show​@@headshotmaster138

[@Octopugilist]

The best part about Gargan as Venom in the comics was the Dark Avengers arc where Osborn would constantly gaslight Gargan and tell him that the voice he was hearing was just a hallucination, but he'd punish Gargan for screwing up by locking him in a pitch black cell so the symbiote could torment and humiliate him for whining about how unpleasant being Venom was. "I feel cold" "I can't feel my heartbeat" "I didn't mean to eat that guy"

[@jacsenwheeler875]

It’s weird to me that gargan is just casually calling Spidey Parker, like obviously it’s cause the suit told him but I think it’s weird the suit decided to share that information with gargan cause I don’t think it ever did in the comics

[@madcap3450]

I hated literally anyone except Eddie being venom and pretty well ignored all comics staring venom without Eddie, however if I recall Gargan used a lot of tech and things like that to keep the symbiote in control rather than just bonding with it like normal

[@rivers5628]

@@madcap3450What about Flash Thompson?

[@yxrackman2397]

I thought Spiderman revealed his identity in civil war so he must know from that

[@mariocollisionmaker]

When Spidey first joined Iron-Man's side in Civil War he had to first announce his identity to the world as part of the super-hero registration act. Gargan (A.K.A Scorpion who has the Symbiote in this video) knew about it from there, as did everyone else including Kingpin, to the disfortune of Aunt May.

[@Himdrewhimself]

I thought Eddie and the symbiote bonded made venom cause of their hatred of spider-man if the symbiote is bonded to someone else it’s not venom

[@deuxbriggs]

The fact that Gargan wanted Parker to kill him in case he gets taken over was the most noblest we expected from him.

[@BovineDesigns]

I love that they actually took into account what was happening in the comics at the time. This game rocked.

[@andrewgarfield9898]

The fact that there isn’t dialogue for Spider-Man here is pretty disappointing. Considering how in the previous game if 2 characters had history there would be actual spoken dialogue for them and not just awkward text speech

[@ShockHazard642]

Yeah, I agree. And it's not like they couldn't voice them in conversations like these because in a select few conversations the character you're playing as is voiced.

[@KingYahshua]

Ultimate Alliance 2 was a noticeable downgrade in quality from it’s predecessor. Quite a shame considering it chronicles one of the greatest comic book events in history. Loved the dialogue in the first game.

[@Cdr2002]

This is actually kind of interesting. There’s a *little* baseline respect despite the obvious contempt. I wish more of a character dynamic had been built between Peter and Gargan as Venom

[@GodsRighthandman]

this was such a cool thing to do since gargan was in control at the time in comics, and he asked him to kill him. like man i fuckin loved these games 😂 its such a unique thing to do that most devs dont do nowadays

[@MOTIONSOLDIERR]

7 inches of Venom for real

[@erickflostar9124]

Venom calling spidey " the web head " is like uncle ruckus calling black people the n word

[@Avalon64]

As Spiderman once said, a loser with a symbiote is still a freaking loser

[@Gamestaion5]

Mac Gargan also know as the X scorpion

[@JyMierCrawford]

if u gave scorpion web shooters he could literally be spiderman he even has his own "senses which are similar to the spider sense"

[@iveyyewitt1621]

This game was a solid sequel to one of my all time favorite games, but I'd love it a LOT more if it hadn't gone with Civil War as a plot. HATED that event.

[@pantherteen1997]

0:07 DAMN SPIDEY ☠️!

[@RRai2000]

How did someone like Gargan swap his Scorpion persona to becoming Venom?

[@Theonea883]

Green goblin gave it to him for his dark avengers, this happens after he becomes the head of shield

[@gentlemanmaniac9992]

In Marvel Knights Spider-Man Eddie sold it to a mob boss's son and then it left him and found it's way to Gargan.

[@Gandolfix]

@@Theonea883 Green goblin didn't do shit. The symbiote left Angelo Fortunato and just stumbled across Gargan.

[@RexfromIslaNublar]

@@gentlemanmaniac9992 would that mean that Eddie Brock would be Anti-Venom now, technically?

[@gentlemanmaniac9992]

@@RexfromIslaNublar Probably. I actually like to think this game is canon with edge of time and possibly web of shadows.

[@MrJol420]

I hate that I can't play this on ps5 because lisencing or something. :( Legit have to just buy a 360 or ps3 at some point to play all my childhood games

[@Savagewolver]

That or Wii. I just bought my copy for ten bucks on Amazon

[@solblackguy]

It's free on My Abandonware. Just google the fan patch to fix the sound glitch

[@chillguygaming420]

ps4 or xbox one so it runs good 👍

[@MrJol420]

@@chillguygaming420 I need a get a ps3 for games like shattered dimension and web of shadows. Gta 4 and dlc arkham origins... its so dumb you can't get them on the ps store there's so many. I still got a old ps4 though. Can I just ebay the disc for ultimate alliance 2/3? I didn't think it worked on ps4

[@chillguygaming420]

@@MrJol420 im not sure last i remember both UA games were playable on ps4, but that was at least 3 years ago.

[@burnthetrolls5971]

Should've had more VO with these charcter conversations

[@Captain8ball]

I forgot that scorpion had the Symbiot for a brief minute

[@kenallenchannel3911]

Spiderman looks like he’s dead inside

[@McDagger90]

I really didn't enjoy this game. I remember trading it in after beating it. The original was literally perfect

[@antoniogirgenti9738]

0:26 - 0:29 Hachacha 😏

[@A-Muse-U]

It’s weird they gave Venom voiced special dialog and yet didn’t give Spiderman any voiced lines

[@MegaManXPoweredUp]

It's because there are lots of playable characters, so having every character voice an interaction would've been too much. It's easier if only the NPC has spoken dialogue during these parts.

[@KazzKobb]

So Gargan had more control of the symbiote? He never says "we" in this version of Venom.

[@jf4132]

they got Ben Diskin to play Peter Parker in this game, and DIDNT have him voice act these lines?

[@LibertyBridgeProductions]

How is scorpion venom

[@Gamestaion5]

I’m guessing, either venom needed a break from Eddie or scorpion stole the Symbiot from Eddie

[@paveesfox375]

No, actually apart of the comics at the time

[@Gamestaion5]

Oh I know what it is the dark Avengers

[@encerdardner]

It’s so funny it’s just spider man going…. 😐

[@Churrowhisperer]

How does gargan know Spider-Man’s secret identity? Did the symbiote tell him?

[@Spidey852]

Marvel ultimate alliance 2 story is set during the civil war, in this event after some heroes cause an explosion that kills a lot of people, the goverment wants to control every superhero in the Planet by a document, but they want to force the héroes to reveal their identities, captain Améria is against this and iron man in favor so a conflict between the two was just a matter of time. Tony recludes múltiple héroes to follow the goverment desires and reveal their identities, Tony managed to convince Peter to reveal his identity in a public interview that was broadcasted all around the world, after withnesing with his own eyes what Tony was doing is wrong, he switches sides and Iron man start to recruit criminals and psychopats to his team. This is from the civil war comics, i recomend you to read them, you will like them.

[@NiGHTSfreak235]

Are they using the Raimi spider symbol on Spider-Man?

[@TheN7Spartan]

Yes

[@thesupersonicstig]

Shouldn’t Venom be saying “We” and “Us” instead of “I”?

[@lord5814]

Nop, Macgargan say's "i" instead "we" because he's dont care about what Venom thinks.

[@CaptainCretaceous91]

I wish you added the other choices.

[@geekhero7841]

0:03 😶

[@Awesomemusic19]

Ugh, God do I hate Gargan Venom. Or really any non-Eddie Venom. But especially Gargan lol.

[@OrenjiMura]

DIPLOMANTIC

[@manwithoutmercy]

Why does this have an ad?

[@ShockHazard642]

I can't monetize my videos yet so it was probably one of YT's forced ads

[@shadowclaw7210]

@@ShockHazard642 if they force add they lest should give you percentage. Because i much prefer when adds lest benefits who ever makes video.

[@manwithoutmercy]

@@ShockHazard642 honestly I’m not accepting an ad for a 47 second video. Either blocking the ad or will be on my computer with Adblock. No disrespect

[@demonwolf570]

@@manwithoutmercy Yeah, KZbin does this even on "controversial" channels with no monetization. Greedy bastards.

[@Venom_zm]

Wait how does he know his identity

[@ShockHazard642]

Venom retains all of his host's memories even after detaching from them, so anyone who has bonded with him knows Peter is Spider-Man

[@Venom_zm]

@@ShockHazard642 oh wait yaaa i remember i was like scorpion never knew my bad i dont know how i forgot

[@nofacedgoldfish6216]

​@@Venom_zmAlso, Peter was forced to make his identity public by the registration act during Civil War, so pretty much everyone should know who he is by now.

[@Venom_zm]

@@nofacedgoldfish6216 oh yeah

[@Thaltas]

​@@nofacedgoldfish6216 That was retconned long ago. The game is quite based on Marvel 616 pre-CW due to Venom and Gargan's temporary bond (around the same time Pete fought Morlun a second time)

[@Geozone117]

Always hated this version of Venom.

[@lord5814]

Best Venom version,he's a absolute monster with no heart,not a pussy anti-hero or pussy god of symbionts.

[@dylansearcy3966]

So wheres eddie brock?

[@solblackguy]

Dead

[@idkidk503]

He was Anti-Venom in comics when Gargan was Venom so I'm assuming he's Anti-Venom in this universe as well

[@cheese4g]

Seeing this makes me wonder if the Venom we'll see in Insomniac's upcoming Venom game will be Gargan? I know, I know, he's dead, but since when has a comic book character stayed dead?

[@idkidk503]

Comic book characters only get ressurected in the comics, they mostly stay dead in other adaptations, so yes insomniac mac is dead for good

[@cheese4g]

@@idkidk503 Well that's just being willfully ignorant.

[@skullyinc.]

This feels like a shit post 💀

[@CursedShinobiClown]

Ah yes mac gargan venom aka the venom literally no one likes 😂

[@idkidk503]

Worst venom. He was just a mindless goon of norman.

[@lord5814]

If no one liked it, it wouldn't have lasted for years. Mac Gargan has one of the most influential and iconic Venom designs in history, Web of Shadows, Ultimate Alliance 2, and his entire phase as his host shows the monstrous part of Venom that is sorely missed nowadays.

[@idkidk503]

@@lord5814 everyone hates the current 616 Spider-Man run yet it has lasted for 2 years

[@vivaelgato4541]

I? Me? Not us/we?

[@calvintyler9281]

Gargan doesn't have a bond with the symbiote. It's just a tool to make him stronger.

[@vivaelgato4541]

@@calvintyler9281 🤔

[@Morningstar91939]

@@calvintyler9281it’s well established in the comics that the Venom symbiote doesn’t bond as well with anyone who isn’t Eddie Brock (or Flash Thompson during the whole “Agent Venom” thing).

[@degu5414]

so boring this game was

[@ShockHazard642]

😨