Cooler Master NR200P V2 - It's a bit complicated

[@KitGuruTech]

Does this case appeal to you for any new build you have in mind? Have Cooler Master nailed the design for you? What would you change, let us know in the comments below.

[@Theunholydebunker]

it's a clear example of how to take a good case and make it worse in almost every regard but also charging more. the SFF discord laughed very hard at the changes, even the CM rep there alluded to the fact that he was against the changes. But hey CM does what they want with their money, i have no use for a case with a riser while i can better use the space by using the classic layout.

[@chrisbullock6477]

Don't think this is great for first time builders. I'd consider taking that fan out during the build and maybe swapping it for a slim 120mm fan for better gpu room on the bottom. I've done two builds with this case a Pink build for the wife in the original version, and my personal build with a 7950X-3D & 4090 using the NR200P MAX. It can be a challenge but satisfying once its actually done and working. It does make you miss cases like the Fractal Torrent Mini. I wished CoolerMaster would make a dual chamber version.

[@cars291]

They had already done that before this V2 was announced.

[@philipjfry628]

Love how the first minute of the video is taken up by explaining the labyrinthine naming convention they have managed to concoct.

[@xBINARYGODx]

not much of a labyrinth, some numbers/letters for a model ID, then they trough V2 at the end. The only thing weird is that its not a v2. It would be like Sony do a PS4/5 Pro that was weaker than the original, or just the same with nothing really to stand out.

[@boltsandbraces6261]

Fair conclusion Leo. I personally wish more air coolers could be used. Sick of AIO lately.

[@KitGuruTech]

glad you liked it but we did use an AIO in this !

[@boltsandbraces6261]

Would a flat style air cooler from noctua or thermalright definitely not fit in this case ?

[@Accuaro]

I love AIO's since, I've been using a D15 for years now haha

[@user-un8cm3ec1g]

Get the meshroom d

[@canarychrome7012]

Good real world build there. Fascinating watching the process. Not much room for anything after that

[@ivana6141]

The front cut out is not for airflow. It is for longer gpu

[@napoficial7123]

Great to see another review! Thank you Leo ❤

[@cars291]

A pleasure to watch as always

[@pctechadvisor]

Returned the V2 due to lack of options. Not really sure why this one is on the market. Leo did a great job with this review.

[@KitGuruTech]

Thank you 👍🏻

[@PixelShade]

I can tell you what happened. Executives at Cooler Master realized that they wanted to ship more of liquid coolers and power supplies. So they took their most popular case; NR200P. Which was absolutely brilliant and highly configurable. Discontinued it and turned it into a bespoke design for one configuration... So what consumers got was a worse product all-in-all... I would recommend everyone not to purchase this case to send a message to Cooler Master, that we prefer configurability.

[@theonlyredspecial]

Good review Leo 👍🏻

[@KitGuruTech]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@JeremyArchie]

They should have called this the NR210 or something. 'V2' implies that it's 'better' compared to the V1. The original NR200P is a lot more versatile, but I get why this exists. Lots of SFF enthusiasts would already have the SFF PSU and 240mm AIO, and would just need a case.

[@emily_dover]

Great review 👍🏻

[@jonevans2121]

It's likely good if you already have the parts or want to shop around and potentially save a bit of money, but for people like me who want the least hassle and clean cabling, I'll happily take the new v2 max :)

[@MikeKrasnenkov]

I already have an SFX-L PSU. I am planning custom loop with external radiator, so I don't need the cooler. This looks like a perfect case for me. If there was only MAX barebone kit I'd never consider it.

[@theduck17]

I don't mind losing that extra SSD in the front since you can just stack them in that single slot and the front panel will still fit without issue. That's what I'm doing now in the original NR200P, have 2 Samsung 870EVO's taped together so I can have all my fans routed to a Corsair Commander module on the 2nd SSD spot.

[@jdmmxbth]

Would love to see a noise-normalised thermal comparison with the original NR200, where the vertical GPU performed quite a bit worse than the horizontal. Even more so if the GPU is thick enough to deshroud and directly use the 120mm case fans to cool it.

[@mcsherlocks]

Great review, having just done a NR200 last September as my first build, it's very fiddly indeed. I hate that they have actually reduced the choice of CPU cooling and GPU mounting options. The best upgrades are the USB-C Front panel option plus the existing two Type A's and the cooling hole at the front (sorry it's a GPU poke through hole really) For now a 4080 i5 1300k is enough for a few years, hopefully by the time I need there will be a NR200 v3 with more config options.

[@bobbymoss6160]

It's worse than the original NR200P, but costs $120. WTF.

[@perdomot]

This case is simply for people who already have an sfx psu and aio and simply want the case. No need to spend more money on parts you already have. There are a couple of other cases I wish that did this for us.

[@brumby92]

I'm certainly glad the case exists. Many sff enthusiasts will already have a power supply or cooler ready to go. I'm certainly glad the Max exists to make the whole process easier.

[@vader3853]

They should have made it exactly the same as the NR200 but with the ability to top mount a rad or fans like in the V2 or max. And then called it the NR200 Evo....job done This is not great for those that air cool.

[@chopaki.testuja3618]

which direction is better to set the air flow? suck it in from the top through the AIO and blow it out from the bottom? Can it be the other way around, suck it in through the dock and blow it out through Aio?

[@andychen7016]

I think there are some people who wanted the Max but without the AIO and PSU, because I wanted to install an AIO or PSU of their choice. Another reason is for those who want to put a custom water inside it.

[@RainbowSunset-uq2hs]

I like it !

[@daibonehead]

I’m disappointed the Max has been discontinued, as that’s the case that makes most sense to me.

[@Accuaro]

This was a fun watch! Will you do more ITX case builds?

[@hairsprungdutchtechnique9626]

Not bad, seems massively restrictive for most builds, but clearly a case for someone with a very specific build in mind.

[@rossdev]

Nice looking case! I have an old NZXT H200i, debating whether to switch it out for something new like this? KZbin ads are really getting rather frequent and intrusive :(

[@ivana6141]

Can i buy this case to change the colour of the pannels (top sides front) on my nr200p max as well as the usb power switch module? i don't want to rebuild my pc just give it a face-lift.

[@deviantbuilds]

You can

[@ivana6141]

@deviantbuilds I never liked that muddy grey colour of the max.

[@kls1836]

Whats the difference in dimensions between max and the v2…? From the video the v2 looks smaller.

[@hairsprungdutchtechnique9626]

I think they now do a MAX 2 as well. THe Max is 377x185x292. The NR200P V2 here is 372 x 185 x 292mm - so I think they are the same, based on the CM website, which is a mess to navigate.

[@Robtang42]

I thought the V1 was going to be discontinued, it doens't seem like there is any stock of it atm. As a V1 owner I don't like the V2, the only good thing are the fan rails on the roof of the case...but it removes a lot of options from the V1. I probably looking elsewhere if I need to replace any of my V1s

[@hairsprungdutchtechnique9626]

I cant remember the V1, what did they remove in the V2 ? I see they have a V2 MAX as well out now.

[@deviantbuilds]

According to machines and more cooler master decided not to discontinue the far superior nr200p.

[@deviantbuilds]

​@hairsprungdutchtechnique9626 flexibility, the max and this doesn't let the user pick their own build. Can't use any great air coolers, can't do triple rad custom loop, can't choose vertical or horizontal gpu.

[@BouiBoui12]

Not sure how this is an improvement compared to the much more versatile v1… the front panel USB-C maybe…?

[@deviantbuilds]

The max had issues with the aio and psu. Noisy pump and psu, people would end up changing them up. So it would end up being a waste of money to buy it. I always thought it was an awful purchase, as it was 400 usd. Cooler master decided to sell the case by itself with new side panesl and usb-c but..... they did indeed want this to replace the standard nr200p, hence the name v2. Once this was reported by pc world, most of the community was not happy about it. Cooler master got lots of negative feedback, as the v2 is a far more limiting case. Eventually, they rolled back the decision to discontinue the nr200p and left the name v2 on this model. I'm guessing they didn't want to spend the money to reprint manuals and boxes to change the name.

[@drewnewby]

Cooler Master in it's heyday would have none of this. Now, just slap a newish name on existing tooling, and off we go with a "new" sku. I'm sure the manufacturer was thrilled.

[@DanIsNotHome]

The whole vertical GPU mounting only is dumb and riser cables suck! Every time PCI-E raises a generation it introduces a whole set of headaches and cost too. Not everyone wants to install an AIO with the associated extra failure points. To call this a real V2 upgrade, keep the USB-C Front Panel upgrade and the extra room at the front of the case for longer graphics cards, and maybe the changes to how the case can be disassembled. Another real improvement to the case would be some kind of concession for RAM cooling, as the limited airflow around that area of the case does impact tuning potential considerably. I guess this was too hard for the Cooler Master engineers to think about and design.

[@inmypaants]

Should just call it the NR200P H2O

[@daibonehead]

I’ll tell you why that case exists - they’ve taken the psus out of the old MAX stock, discontinued the MAX, then used the psus in the ncore max. Speculation on my part, but…..

[@vincentvega3093]

Had a NR200P and got rid of it the moment i got a Ghost Loque S1 at their sale. It was ok for getting into sff pc building

[@KitGuruTech]

So, as an (ex) NR200P owner, what do you think of the V2 ?

[@hairsprungdutchtechnique9626]

Why?

[@lovingthehardwarethisyea-py1xp]

$210? wow thats expensive for a small form factor chassis ! had to google it,. never heard of it.

[@notmatt5864]

This case could have been perfect with a horizontal gpu mount.

[@mathew6097]

the v1 is better, you option to put large air cooler or aio cooler

[@jNasz09]

Better use the mesh since you can't see the other components because it's covered by the gigantic GPU.

[@stickyfingers9710]

I quite like this design overall, but the naming and overall products they have for sale seem very very messy. someone needs to talk to the PM and start streamlining their range a little.

[@rufusmctavish1164]

Thats always been a Cooler Master 'thing' - their naming conventions and product stacks are very confusing.

[@Purjo92]

I don't see why this would be an unnecessary release. Some people already have SFX PSU and AIO but might want to switch to another case. Others may want to buy a different AIO, go with an air cooler, or prefer a custom loop. Some might choose a different PSU with different specifications or just like another PSU brand. Sure, I agree that the case has a little bit misleading name because it's strongly related to the previous Max version, but it's not the most horrific naming scheme, looking at you Nvidia.

[@hairsprungdutchtechnique9626]

Yeah good point, but it seems to be confusing a lot of people in comments.

[@buyingastairwaytoheaven5252]

Yeah Nvidia are the worst, no dbout about it. I think this V2 has a place in the line up, but their naming is just confusing people. Leo nailed it in this video. Its a pretty useful product as you say for people who want to switch and try a different cooler.

[@boltsandbraces6261]

I dont think this is as good as the V1 they cancelled. Fan rails are good in roof, but they removed some things I liked after doing some research.

[@CaptConfusion71]

Once again, Leo pulls no punches......

[@drian1236]

Oh gosh I really don't know what build to do next. For 16 years I ran everything inside the original Cooler Master Cosmos, with the original case fans, and my original 850W Cooler Master PSU working flawlessly for all that time. But now... I don't "need" HDD bays, or optical drive bays (useful, but not used enough so I would get a USB one). So I am really struggling for what build I would go with - ATX or SFF. I have an XFX MERC 310 7900 XTX, which is humungous of course, so something that fits that is essential. As for CPU - I generally rock the "700" version of a ryzen 7 CPU - currently the 5700X - I don't need a 100W CPU anymore but my use-case has changed from "scientific" to mostly "gaming" and photo editing. But I loved the Cosmos because of the sound-proofing inside it - I like quiet PCs! Though I appreciate maybe things have gotten quieter for case fans etc in the past 16 years. Yet, I don't like to lose performance... So is it possible to go SFF with such a huge GPU... or am I better off with an ATX build. I also don't want a gazilliion utilities for different RGB / monitoring software, so one manufacturer of most of the components is ideal. So where do I go!? Cooler Master? NZXT? If anyone can help...!

[@Prime0pt]

AIO pipes not long enough for this case

[@andrev5207]

Well it would seem to suit an Intel i7 and i9 which run far too hot for an air cooler anyway. Only problem is the minimum recommended radiator needed is 340mm. The NR200P max came preinstalled with a “special” 280mm radiator with an extra 25% fins over standard radiators which is just ok for an i9. So Intel guys are going to need to really think carefully about the choice of water cooler if they choose this case. I am building an NR200P max as we speak and purchased two optional extra fans for the bottom of the case. Unfortunately with the riser card in place, a slim “15mm” 120mm fan is the biggest that will fit under the cpu.

[@andrev5207]

Great review also. Straight down to the important stuff, no faffing about and no wasting time on shiny things.

[@NBWDOUGHBOY]

Quantum tech and Jayztwocents would put a 14900K & 4090 in this Water Cooled no problem.

[@thetechdevil-jn1vo]

Of course they would. It’s all they do

[@iamahappybunny7640]

And give health updates every 2 hours 😅

[@fairycat]

With such cooling system you could put here intel’s 14700kf .

[@justeddm]

Terrible thermals, sticking to matx decision

[@joemarais7683]

I just can’t believe they made the NR200P worse, and then had the brilliant idea of discontinuing the better version. Completely disinterested in the product.

[@matthewrezuke8130]

I'll take this over the Lian li A3..

[@darknessblades]

Based on the specs it looks like it might just barely fit a Powercolor red devil RX7900XT

[@LeMonke-kj8zj]

It fits my SFX 7900XT just fine and that is one of the biggest 7900XT cards on the market, just built it last night

[@Buffinator1988]

The nr200p max is end of life according to Scans website. Cooler master now have a Nr200p Max v2 on their website now, extra couple cm for gpu length, improved ventilation and the PSU is now atx 3.0 The non max version makes zero sense unless you've already got an sfx psu and an aio you want to reuse.

[@justeddm]

Cm should not produce this in big volumes

[@KitGuruTech]

Why ?

[@justeddm]

@@KitGuruTech waste of resources

[@xBINARYGODx]

Continue to flash the bird as us - so rude. One wonders if he has a specific person or group in mind.

[@naturalcauses1695]

It's a sign of respect in the UK

[@shaye-uv6tw]

this is legitimately just a worse version of the case- this has always been the affordable option for an ITX case and they go with 120 dollars- pure liquid cooling in mind Also, I don’t even know the purpose of them giving a tempered glass panel. It’s just gonna smother the GPU. This is a total step back in every single way I hope they start releasing the old version again because this is a step back in every single way

[@kearmau5]

eyy, easy with that case man, dont slap things to the table wth

[@theonlyredspecial]

It’s probably already in the bin so I wouldn’t worry about it 😅

[@kearmau5]

@@theonlyredspecial they don't care about them cause they got them for free from OEMs, unlike us who get this stuff with our hard earned money

[@100500daniel]

man that cpu cooler sucks for this 7800x3d. a 30$ phantom spirit will do a much better job

[@thetechdevil-jn1vo]

Well I agree. It’s a stupid name. 😂

[@BraveGuardian]

You can't see your components any More😂 bec of the graphics card Mount

[@vaporhazy]

the V2 is a straight downgrade- the design is very limiting now.

[@amalek.92]

The naming scheme IS stupid.

[@lucifersheadscarf6988]

I may be being harsh here but this case seems utterly pointless in their current product stack.

[@lovingthehardwarethisyea-py1xp]

its not really, its just a stupid name for the product. Like most Cooler Master products. They hire managers who just complicate things with daft conventions that make no sense.