MasterBox NR200P MAX Intel Core i9 13900K RTX 3090 Build

[@elbutchos]

Came here for the title , stayed for the soundtrack :))))

[@thehardwareguy]

For those interested, all components for this build have been provided in the video description. A lot of people have also been asking about temperatures, so heres my experience so far: The 13900k runs hot in any system, damn thing is running at nearly 6GHz which is crazy. I also have the 3090 in there which gets to around 70-80C while gaming. With Turbo Boost (5.8GHz), temps peak at 95-100C with the Multicore Cinebench Test. (Yes, it throttles between 3.2GHz and 5.6GHz) With Turbo Boost (5.8GHz), temps peak at 60-70C while gaming. With Turbo Boost (5.8GHz), temps peak at 35-40C with casual PC use. With Turbo Boost Off (3.2GHz): Never peaks above 60C in any scenario. I am yet to experiment with undervolting, but I am well aware that this has great benefits on these 13th Gen chips, even improving performance with lower temperatures. If I experiment with this, I will make a dedicated video about it.

[@wranefis]

don’t know much about pcs i know sad . but just wondering are these temp deal breakers ? for someone trying build a pc just like yours

[@PatrykPietrzak-vp9uy]

How much did u achieve in Multicore Cinebench Test?

[@francisgravel6593]

This inspires me. I'm in the building process of a similar PC. Nearly the same motherboard. I like the way you can open this case from every side as the motherboard I chose have m.2 slots under it. This is why I would like it. You've used the screwdriver 36 times.

[@Edemce1]

I just got done with mine , LOVE IT. I did notice i had to be careful with the wiring behind it.

[@orphanorbe]

Can you fit a 4090???

[@CosmicNewbie]

Is this undervolted to deal with heat ? Is the NR200P cooler enough ?

[@williamsmargilio7626]

What a fantastic build, can I ask you which RGB LED you have fitted?

[@thehardwareguy]

cheers! It ws just a generic LED light strip that plugs into the mains. I ran the power out the back of the case, this way I can control it with a remote control.

[@Norain1992]

Hey there! Would you still recommend this PC build today? Greetings

[@thehardwareguy]

Absolutely! it's an incredible machine

[@Norain1992]

@@thehardwareguy hehe good to know. :D Same CPU and same Mainboard? Why no Z790. Are you able to get the full potential out of the i9 13900k?

[@thehardwareguy]

I will upgrade to a DDR5 board at some point which might get even more out of the 13900k. If you can afford it do that! Even with DDR4 though board it makes easy work of absolutely anything I throw at it

[@Norain1992]

@@thehardwareguy okay you got me, going for the same build ;-P What values have you set the PLA1 and PLA2 in BIOS? I see that Asrock has just released new BIOS Versions (but Beta)

[@Norain1992]

@@thehardwareguy Great to hear that! 🙂but no need for you to upgrade in the near future? I see there is not a huge improvement of DDR5 over DDR4 yet. But in case, which DDR5 Mainboard would you get today? And what RAM speed?

[@vincentpatrick886]

Is the 280mm aio enough to cool a 13900k?

[@djktana]

I exactly have the same question

[@rtorbs]

Depends what you're after.....no one builds a SFF build with top tier high heat output components and expects it to be cool....the tradeoff is, you dont have a behemoth case at the expense of it running hotter than a mid tower atx with a 380/420 AIO. Undervolting absolutely helps, as does a a contact frame and then i found that contrary to standard airflow set ups, exhaust through bottom of rig not through top, pulling external air into rig through the rad keeping the cpu as cool as possible.....if you exhaust top, youre stifling the rad with the internal hot air which in turn raises the cpu temp

[@thehardwareguy]

That's an interesting idea, potentially worth a go. I'll test my temps with both configurations👍🏻

[@curiouspers]

​@@thehardwareguyhave you tested it? What's the result? Awesome video btw, cheers

[@terrytjandra]

what is your temp?

[@RyanStone143]

Great build, and I love that tune!

[@GreenEggsAndGraham]

How are your temps? Load and idle? Im contemplating a case swap and this could aid in my decision.

[@thehardwareguy]

I've put some temps in the pinned comment 👍🏻

[@EliasLobo369]

What are the temps?

[@heeku_]

would u recommend swapping the aio to a corsair h115i rgb elite? im going to use themaltakr toughfan pro 14 on either aio. using a 12900k thanks a bunch!

[@rtorbs]

Its defo a better cooler but id say try a contact frame, undervolting and change of airflow direction first

[@heeku_]

@@rtorbs legit don't wanna undervolt cuz i dont need to do so in my nr200p with the corsair aio, cpu isn't passing 65c..

[@rtorbs]

Sound I replied based on your OP where you didnt have the AIO@@heeku_

[@teachhimself]

I would use vented panel but hot damn is that a good looking build

[@Walkdthock]

I’m trying to build a 4090fe on this nr200p white. I cant afford to buy both max and white to swap them like you did. Is there a way to buy the aio from max ver separately? Or is there an aio that i can use on the non max version of nr200p? Thank you.

[@marcclarion6586]

spray painting them?

[@killrockstartv]

how are gpu temps in this?

[@sburnes5509]

Is it possible to squeeze in a full sized mb into one of these cases? Also 20 times i think

[@thehardwareguy]

definitely wouldn't fit a full sized board in there. Even the Mini-ITX is very snug, particularly on the right hand side near the power supply

[@Fjerid]

Oh the case has build in LED strips??

[@thehardwareguy]

It doesn't come with those, I added them in off camera

[@Fjerid]

@@thehardwareguy Thanks for the clarity! I'm about to buy one.

[@mojito6629]

What you wrote in the description is almost similar in what's in my head now about my system LOL

[@mojito6629]

@thehardwareguy 2 questions; -Instead of buying 2, why don't you just buy a white NR200 and the AIO and PSU? -Instead of DDR4, why don't you use DDR5 RAM & Motherboard?

[@thehardwareguy]

The NR200 is slightly different internally to the NR200P. The full size radiator wouldn't fit at the top, it would have to go at the bottom. I chose to stick with DDR4 because I already had DDR4 RAM and this motherboard was cheaper. The board I have supports Gen5 PCIE and the i9 is compatible with DDR4 and DDR5, so when the time comes I will upgrade the board and RAM at a lower cost. Personally I see no real world performance gain in DDR5, and it wasn't worth an extra £500 (board included)

[@mojito6629]

@@thehardwareguy did you deleted my comment? (about the advantage of DDR-5 vs DDR-4 for Music Production). I hope not. 1st that's a useful information, regardless your Beautiful PC build no matter you use DDR-4. Secondly, I'm just considering to subscribe to your channel and promoting it to my friends, but TBH I'm tired of unnnecessary censorship attitude, usually by more powerful side of something. Good day

[@thehardwareguy]

Hi, I didn't delete any comment. It's possible that KZbin somehow filtered the comment if it contained a URL or any bad language etc

[@mojito6629]

no bad language, I can assure you LOL. Maybe because I put a link to a website (which of a test result which shows that DDR5 has advantages (in music production work, at least) than DDR4). Ok, all good, good day@@thehardwareguy

[@jonnyfontane3607]

for the people asking for the temps, do your BIOs and youre fine, even with an i9 in this case

[@toma.cnc1]

Thank you, i already have the NR200P in black.

[@thehardwareguy]

It's a great case isn't it! Real fun to build in

[@toma.cnc1]

@@thehardwareguy yes it is, have the Ryzen 7 3700x water cooled, had the biggest Radeon RX6800XT OC in it but had to sell it last month. Now RX580 8GB

[@anonymeralkoholiker2880]

Why did u sell it and how where ur temps? Im Planning on a similar setup With a 6800xt.

[@toma.cnc1]

@@anonymeralkoholiker2880 I never used it for games, it was mining for nearly 1 year, while mining the temps were 52-56 without the lid mounted vertically. It was very quiet compared to smaller reference design RX6900XT i had.

[@nitrocranium]

Awesome build, after this video I’ve pretty much made up my mind on which case to use. One question: bottom fans are intake or exhaust? Thanks!

[@thehardwareguy]

thank you! I've set mine up as intake to help cool the GPU. In turn, this also helps cool the air that is drawn through the radiator and exhausted out at the top of the case.

[@captainlcm]

arrrr Haven't heard this matrix theme for a while

[@Getingen98]

I want to win the case because I’m upgrading my graphics card and the new one don’t fit in my LOUQE Ghost S1 MK3. You used the screwdriver 15 times 😆 great video!

[@Zambrana3D]

Beautiful

[@TheReayning]

Always a skip when connecting the GPU cables... Great.

[@thehardwareguy]

That's the easiest and most boring part of the entire build, why do you want to see that? 😂

[@TheReayning]

@@thehardwareguy I wouldn't call it boring and as I just built my first PC a few weeks ago, I was not sure about the double 6+2pin connectors for the GPU (of which there are actually 4)...

[@thehardwareguy]

yeah the bigger GPU's generally have 4+4 Pin

[@makewithmegma]

💕👌👍

[@98integraGSR]

Man, talk about sub-optimal flow management

[@thehardwareguy]

Temperatures have been very good so far! How do you think I could improve on that?

[@reverend_wintondupree]

@@thehardwareguy How's the CPU Temps been so far? I've been contemplating getting the 12900 but fearing the form factor may cause throttling.

[@jackryan8719]

Copyright music violation

[@thehardwareguy]

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