Bungie Turned An Old Favorite Into A Modern Masterpiece

[@CoolGuyGames]

Thank you for watching! I love this pulse and still looking for a 5/5. What rolls are you liking?

[@ScribeLur]

Repulser brace and desperate measures

[@otisdriftwood7094]

I have a zen moment/headseeker roll and it's great. It doesn't have ricochet rounds or a range masterwork so I'm still focusing on this till i get that roll. Extended barrel, ricochet rounds and a range master work is what I'm after. Mine now has 75 range so it's useable but not 5/5.

[@SonicVibe]

Rocking hammer forge rifle ricochet rounds zen moment desperado range masterwork I’d like to try the head seeker roll with zen but I really like this roll desperado fells like kill clip

[@KinesisOnXbox]

​@otisdriftwood7094 I got a shiny 4/5 early on and haven't used it yet just due to not playing pvp at all yet since onslaught released. Super excited to try it out. Let me know what you think of it.

[@JohnSmith-uf3yn]

You don’t have a shiny god roll lmao

[@bumponalog5001]

Just wanted to say I really appreciate how you go over the best pattern for the deterministic recoil. Not many other creators do and it’s now a vital piece of info to have.

[@CoolGuyGames]

Np ❤

[@Screwball-D2]

Seriously. I think other people's reviews are really missing out by not covering it, I think it's really important

[@darriangario3447]

Literally like 2 content creators do this everyone else is like "it has kill clip it's a god roll😂"

[@st0nedpenguin]

I was just about to post the same thing. The classic "get to 100" just isn't the same anymore and seeing the actual recoil helps immensely.

[@spicy_xinger]

*cough cough aztecross* some real thorough testing he did by looking at it on paper

[@theoutlaw6044]

Overlapping the sights for w/o Zen Moment and with it was goddamn genius 👏, love that perk and anything that makes people see how much work it does is awesome

[@vitor0tritto]

was about to drop the same comment! Really cool to see the difference real time. Kudos, CoolGuy

[@life-destiny1196]

Yeah, great editing there.

[@BenDover-rz3kq]

i have a zen, desperado roll. 0.55 ttk , blindingly fast

[@xPangu]

You can definitely see how much effort goes into editing these videos. That zen moment overlap clip was genius. Really showcases just how good the perk is.

[@voodoolab814]

Your weapon reviews are without a doubt the absolute best on youtube CoolGuy with no one else even close. Thank you!

[@CoolGuyGames]

They take a lot of time, I know I'm never "first", but I really appreciate that. I am proud of the things i put out and am glad you enjoy them.

[@vampyrusblack494]

one thing alot of people arent talking about is how good the sight on elsies is a translucent sight with a clear red dot its what sights in this game wish they were

[@iponce2]

Destiny might be the only game where the sights don't bother me much. I kinda wish more guns had straight up irons lol. But I agree, elsie's is real clean. Gun feels good

[@althechicken9597]

Yeah, the messenger red dot gives me tunnel vision. I miss when it had scope options.

[@Brad-ut1ro]

It’s what ur mom wishes u were… Yeah… I’ll just c myself out…

[@sahande.2557]

Just a little correction for what's said at 5:40, flinch resists are multiplicative but since they are fractions of

[@charcovex4411]

I managed to get a special edition one with arrowhead break, high caliber rounds, zen moment/under over in the 3rd column, and headseeker/kill clip in the fourth. I could not be happier with it

[@ZoneZero253]

Sounds perfect for pvp 1000%

[@hadokenchild]

I'm sorry, but that's illegal. Delete it for the good of the crucible.

[@Schutzi]

prepare to get messiges like you are cheating

[@MYDOMAIN002]

Under over desperado . Is cheating😅😅😅😅 got that roll and haven't put it down yet lol

[@asaabed4200]

you have actual hit the jackpot, that is insane. Enjoy it man

[@andrewpantalones]

I have a Zen Moment/Headseeker roll with arrowhead, ricochet rounds, and a ranged masterwork. Imma have to take this thing out for a spin.

[@hauntedhotdog]

Zen Moment on Elsie's Rifle feels amazing. Almost feels like a lock on... it just pins your reticle right in the enemy's face. I knew it was elite the first time I killed a random hive with it. It definely has the secret sauce, and the fact that it has a considerable stat advantage over The Messenger is wild. Bungie brought the goods with these weapons.

[@charlesabuah2331]

Spot on. Elsie’s Rifle is quite formidable. I’m eagerly anticipating Blast Furnace and Luna’s Howl as well.

[@mr.goochthethird1222]

something to note for a desperate measures roll is on a normal melee kill you can get 2 stacks, so melee one person into buffed gun dual :)

[@Enerjay88]

I'm intrigued on a warlock PVP build with desperate measures on Elsie's. With either Zen Moment or Over Under.

[@JRen87]

My roll; Extended Barrel, R rounds, Zen, HS, with Range masterwork. Can confirm it’s a laser on console

[@MrLycan329]

Also can’t forget that all primary weapons got the flinch reduced by 15% so that combined with zen moment is what’s making all guns feel like it’s no kick on the guns everything is a laser

[@Veirdjil]

I have only one problem with this gun. The stock is so big, it block 1/4 of my screen

[@thenexus7343]

Sounds like a fov issue.

[@setwhen2]

Skill issue

[@Sypitz]

They also made the sights smaller

[@Sam-pr9rr]

That’s why I like console reticle cantering instead of middle cantering

[@ilikaplayhopscotch]

The stock is why the stats are so good though, think about it.

[@n3crobard]

Appreciate the detailed review and analysis on stuff like recoil direction and the effects of zen moment. Great breakdown of what is clearly a best in class pulse with a tremendously bright future. I can't wait to lock in an ideal zen headseeker roll and enhance it up!

[@PlatinumAssassin]

The overlayed recticles is a great visual. Good stuff as per usual, CG. Thanks!

[@aarongregory4980]

Thank you for going into the depth you do for these reviews. The recoil pattern testing is especially helpful. You’ve been my main guy for reviews for years now and I know I’m in good hands with your recommendations.

[@and...and..]

Zen+Head Seeker already top tier and will have +10 stability next expansion (enhanced perks) which is crazy.

[@EraOfJack]

He said that in the video. Congrats on repeating him.

[@ICannotBelieveIAmHere]

For shiny guns only or regular versions?

[@darklordshuaib]

​@@ICannotBelieveIAmHereregular as well. 😊

[@and...and..]

@@ICannotBelieveIAmHere Both

[@tuyet4841]

I never really liked even pre nerf desperado on the messaged or broadsword, but zen moment desperado on this thing made me completely fall in love with desperado, being able to use it to farm kill people as they get res’ed in trials is beautiful, and unlike those other weapons it still feels like I can hit the 2 burst constantly with desperado active

[@LuisHGarcia]

Finally, a Void high impact pulse you don't have to farm Pit of Heresy for and given high impact pulses in the energy slot are EXTREMELY rare altogether (only four in the game's history with Premonition being reissued ages ago after being sunset). Also, thank you for talking up Desperado. I get the bigger appeal of Kill Clip and maybe Desperado could use a slight buff (i.e. the added stability and aim assist from Necrochasm's version of the perk), Desperado can still cook when it's going. Always has for the most part in my experience. Something I recall from another vid when talking about Desperado to consider... "In pve desperado is the only 30% increase in weapon efficiency for legendaries in the game after the kill clip nerf In pvp desperado is the only damage perk that universally shifts ttk's for all archetypes of pulses (not factoring in like taking a single bullet out of a burst like kill clip does. Plus, the forgiveness of desperado is based on correcting for MISSED shots (because you can send a followup burst faster) while kill clip adds forgiveness for just BODYSHOTS Overall desperado has a higher activation requirement, but imo it does add at least something to the table"

[@DPantherful1]

I wanted to look it up, and yeah, there's only 4 'second-slot' high-impact pulses in the entire game: Premonition (Pit of Heresy) Stars in Shadow (Crucible, Season 12) Phyllotactic Spiral (Neomona) Elsie's Rifle (Into the Light). One for each Light element. Crazy stat. I'll share another: There's never been an Arc Lightweight Frame sidearm. . . Unless you count the Vinegaroon-2SI with an Arc Damage Mod wayback in the beginning of D2. 😂

[@brentbonham9427]

Thank you for the fantastic weapon review, in-depth exploration of zin moment, and the perfect overlay to show it in action.

[@yeet_master_5k653]

I got a zen moment desperado. It feels so good. I love it in crucible. I loved desperado since it was originally introduced and I used to use the original Redrix in PvE. Desperado is such a good perk imo.

[@soooluscious5636]

I loved seeing the regular version laid on top of Zen moment! It really shows how good it is.

[@suni3709]

Nobody is doing it like CoolGuy. He is getting INTO IT, devil in the details

[@ogLenas]

Damn, didn't know Zen literally pins your reticle in place. Great visual representation. Thanks CG.

[@spicy_xinger]

other reviewers didn't even mention the shitty horizontal recoil in their supposed god roll recommendations. CG the goat for weapon reviews bc he actually tests them

[@cuppy666]

I’m loving under over on this thing, void titans literally don’t expect it at range

[@chrisdacosta4182]

I agree with your assessment. I am solely grinding for "my" god roll version now. So far zen and headseeker is my favorite for a dueling weapon. Just trying to find the best barrel (range and stability) and masterwork for it.

[@Spatan295]

Ended up getting extended, ricochet, zen, headseeker. I’ve always loved this gun model since destiny 1 and it is my new favorite crucible dueling weapon tbh. I sometimes switch to the full bore barrel with counterbalance and it feels like it hits more crits than extended sometimes.

[@Karandar]

I was insanely lucky the other day with an Elsie's drop - the Shiny dual perk version. Zen/keep away & desperado/headseeker with range MW . Crazy happy! The weakness is barrels, i have chambered to help Recoil, and fullbore as options. Flared or extended mags

[@BlaquePeople]

I have a third axiom with zen moment and head seeker. That combination is a must have. It must be perfect on Elsie's Rifle.

[@Rilo888]

I personally like under over head seeker. I have a zen roll too and it’s great but I use the under over for the fact that I always 2 tap everyone. Even through over shields aside those given by well or bubble

[@ItsMendes]

I got a shiny variant with Smallbore/Arrowhead - High call/Ricochet - Under over/Zen - Headseeker/KC. Played one match, fell in love.

[@davidcintron8991]

I love that you cover the record patterns now. Best weapon reviews I never miss one, watch most of them multiple times

[@gamesux1590]

Mines got Extended Barrel, Flared, Keep Away, Head Seeker, with a Stability Masterwork. It is shiny and I love how it looks, Flared + Keep Away is a crazy combo to look for, genuinely, when Keep Away is active that 75 reload speed suddenly turns into a 100 reload speed and now its a kill chain monster with Desperado (which is my other perk but I prefer Head Seeker for consistency). This thing is gonna be hard to compete with going forward because no other pulse will be like this

[@zukie8082]

I'm excited to jump into Crucible one of these days and use my zen/headseeker shiny (with desperado as the alternate perk). Chambered Comp and high cal rounds. I'm excited after this vid!

[@badbadleroybrown650]

Great video as always. I have about 20 of these but only 4 are good for me. I have Zen / Kill clip, Under-Over/ Kill Clip, Under-Over / Adrenaline Junkie, they are great. But I am still looking for a Smallbore, Ricochet Round, Under-Over (which is a perk you opened my eyes too), and Headseeker. That’s my PvP good roll. I have a Repulsor Brace/ Destabilizing Rounds roll that’s nasty for PvE, I plan on pairing that with Gyrfalcons.

[@SY-mo2rs]

Thank you for the rd breakdowns. I think I can manage perk combos myself these days but I’ll tune into every review for that

[@arcann_de]

09:24 since i tried my adept messenger with under over desperado just for the fun, and realized that it was melting through guardians, i immediately fell in love with it.

[@Sup3rMoos3]

Honestly your weapon reviews lately have me re-evaluating rolls on the new brave weapons as well as older guns. I've also started looking at perk combos I might not have considered with the sandbox changes. Also, loving the included recoil patterns and the overlay with the two different reticle patterns is top tier man; keep it up!

[@ZensivYT]

I loved strangers rifle in D1, was one of my most used weapons. Was so excited for Elsie's Rifle and when i heard it was getting zen moment and headseeker i knew it was gonna be able to compete. So happy they brought it back in a good state

[@happypie1362]

first elsies roll i got a holofoil one with zen headseeker, high cal and arrowhead/fluted, extremely consistent roll.

[@shecallmearbyz9099]

I have been following you for a LONG TIME!! You have the most informative reviews… so imagine how appalled I was when I realized I wasn’t subscribed. Fixed that! Keep up the great work

[@d3adman101]

wow the recoil direction is so fucking helpful dude ive rewatched all these vids so many times man. You are a blessing brother

[@alicegotlost8369]

I was JUST looking at reviews after getting a smallbore rico ka despo stab shiny, nice timing! Hope all is well ❤

[@robertdewolfe1654]

Thank you so much brother. You have the very very best weapon reviews. Always have, always will.

[@SomeGuyOnHisPhone]

I just got a roll with arrowhead brake, Richochet rounds, Range mw, zen moment and head seeker. I just started playing again too 😅

[@-gg8342]

You nailed it! I was destroying with a keepaway desperate measure roll

[@dezzdinn]

Finally have time to go back and watch your vids. I haven’t even had time to take these beasts into the crucible. Good stuff as always man

[@amorfati4927]

It really does just feel different. Also helps that I’ve had the most luck with drops on this. Got the PvE rolls you were talking about. Also for PvP I got Arrowhead Brake/Ricochet Rounds/Zen Moment/Headseeker/Stability Masterwork. An absolute dream to use. Also got Arrowhead Brake (or Hammer Forged)/Ricochet Rounds/Under-Over/Headseeker/Range Masterwork which is perfect to switch to when you have those overshielding teams.

[@Blackhart-7]

Unfortunately I've been so busy I only got to farm foir Recluse so far, but I can't wait to get and use this one, it was my favourite pulse in D1 and I was so sad it was light level locked... I hope your health is holding up okay, do take care of yourself you hear? o/

[@tenacity25]

This is the first high-impact pulse to actually catch my interest since I got my Zen + Celerity messenger. I can finally meet the stats of that thing, with zen, AND another perk to care about - headseeker.

[@IveBeenWithBruma]

fun fact keep away can have this rifle out range other elsie's users

[@shadowsa2b]

In pve I proc V-rounds on every void build. The fact that Brave weapons all give Light subclasses grenade energy is awesome. So Elsie's and Recluse will help you get back thst grenade you just tossed to proc V rounds. Pair with a Vortex grenade and explode groups of enemies. No need for D-rounds. Go ahead and take a damage perk

[@adummy9664]

A quirky perk I honestly have my eye on is Loose Change ever since they buffed it to give +20 Aim Assist and 20% reduced ADS speed penalty, basically twice as good as Moving Target but with an activation requirement. And since it's a Void weapon it'll work with Gyrfalcon's with the Volatile Rounds so you should easily have Loose Change active in a duel, probably not as consistent as Zen being up all the time but I feel like it's a gimmick combo worth keeping in consideration.

[@abacate]

CoolGuy, my guy. I can't believe that you out of all people missed out on combining Loose Change + Desperate Measures with Athrys's Embrace. I've been having such a blast with that combo these past few days. Try it out, if you get one with those two!

[@althechicken9597]

No one Elsie tests recoil patterns! You saved the day cool guy 😎

[@xPureAndTheTaintedx]

BXR is a good example, my current crafted roll is 80 range, 61 Stability, 73 Handling, 65 Reload Speed.

[@csharp57]

I can’t get the proper god roll to drop and I know it’s because Bungie wants me to grind this mode 😢

[@naota3k]

I've never been a fan of slow pulse rifles (besides Bygones), even though they are generally my favorite primary weapon type (I prefer rapid-fire usually). Gotta say, Elsie's has blown me away. I found myself using it as a go-to for early Onslaught waves before I swap over to Graviton Lance/Disorienting Grenades. Absolutely SLAPS with volatile rounds, and the rolls are pretty incredible, much like with many of these Brave weapons.

[@nerdherder9340]

I have an old zen/desperado messenger and I really like that combo as it stacks up zen so quick

[@KLGChaos]

I got a curated roll with a couple good pve perks and Zen Moment/Headseeker for PvP. Combined with High Caliber rounds and smallbore for some extra range and stability and it was tearing things up today. Clean sights, feels great to use for me and could two burst better than any pulse I've used before thanks to Zen Moment helping control that recoil, even without arrowhead (also 72 stability thanks to MW). I play on PC, so its definitely not just a controller perk anymore. It's a beast.

[@almumin75]

Mine favorite has arrow head, armor piercing, keep away, head seeker, range masterwork

[@CaptainKush420]

I've been enjoying Repulsor Brace/Desparate Measures on Void Hunter with Gyrfalcons. Constant overshield and damage increase while clearing trash mobs

[@pencilswordfish]

I'm a believer now. It's magnet-ing shots I don't think it should and it's amazing. and it duels it's just rock solid no flinch at all, it makes me wonder if my Messenger was ever this consistent with the two-taps. This thing is best in slot Hi impact pulse now for the energy slot, AND it pairs with Conditional. People were silly for scoffing at this and it was announced.

[@EtotheFnD]

Thanks for gettin nerdy with buddy...👊

[@aaronsmith4273]

Solid video. Really appreciate the overlay of the sites with Zen versus non-zen. It always sucks being on MnK with different recoil feel. I never FEEL the impact of Zen on MnK, and really notice the impact of Keep Away. Would have loved a comparison with Keep Away on this as well as the Zen. Performing the same Sights overlay with crits versus non crits.

[@hellsing1983]

This is for sure my favourite high impact legendary in pve and pvp. For pve I fell in love with repulsor brace and destebalizing rounds, it just wipes everything. For pvp it just feels great, and if it feels great I do well.

[@spartanzealot9]

I got that Over Under Kill Clip roll and holy hell it's so fun. It tears through 6s.

[@luckybuizel15]

I got a zen frenzy shiny as my first drop from the 10 wave onslaught after I unlocked Elsie's and it is glued to my hand, it shreds and its impossible to miss with the thing absolutely a dream!

[@AsenDURE]

The review I've been waiting for since the introduction of onslaught. Thank you!

[@exxy9931]

I was really wanting a under-over/kc (or headseeker) roll for this but I wound up getting a holo with Keep Away and a kc/headseeker swap. Ricochet rounds, smallbore and a stability MW. Honestly love it.

[@DaveyZyxaa]

This isn’t the only Pulse Rifle with Zen Moment + Headseeker. You reviewed Syncopation when Witch Queen launched, and that was before both perks got their buffs. I would like a re-review of that weapon since it can get ENHANCED PERKS. I for one use it that Stasis Pulse Rifle so much and love using it. 4:30

[@Reapers-Riot585]

I've tried pretty much every roll and keep away head seeker feels amazing. Smallbore ricochet and your good.

[@aa4a-a4]

On the first day I got a 5/5 keepaway/headseeker roll, and I put nearly 300 kills on it in a week. This thing rocks.

[@HerpilOG]

Repulsor brace and destabilization rounds!!!! Goes insane. Zen moment and kill clip for PvP. Energy messagenger!!

[@TerraTheWise]

I’ve gotten multiple really solid rolls but still chasing that Zen moment, Headseeker, Ricochet, Small bore/Arrowhead, and Range MW. Once I get that roll I’m pairing it with conditional or an smg/sidearm and never taking it off unless I feel like getting some spicy one taps with Hawkmoon.

[@alex62965]

i loved this gun in destiny 1 but i couldnt ever get a good feel for no time to explain, gonna give this a go

[@austynndamron9749]

Got headseeker and keep away. The roll absolutely slaps people down at range.

[@Proverb.]

If you are a super min-maxer then it's worth noting the Under-Over roll. If anti-barrier pulse ever comes back it would be the best void option with Frenzy for champ stunning. Pretty niche end-game use case but uh, being best-in-class at something is worth a mention I think

[@arcanite_force]

My first shiny drop day 1 of Into the Light was the Zen/Seeker roll of this gun and i could tell immediately that it was special

[@fenixstorm2165]

I have saved every single roll not sure what i should be looking why I came here

[@osyemi]

Under over is my favorite perk to run now especially against healing nades

[@alextokmakoff6521]

I recently got a roll with Arrowhead, ricochet, range mw, zen moment, and desperado. I haven’t used desperado much but I’ll have to give her a shot !

[@stevegaspar]

I'm a Day D1 player and have played this game for years. One main point that kept me here for so long is way the gins feel when I shoot. Very satisfying. Thats why stopped playing other FPS games as it wasn't as satisfying. Well i just started playing CoD MW3 and though, overall, it's not a better game than D2 i was shocked how good most of those guns feel. Especially ARs and SMGs. They still lag behind D2 for HC feel but pretty much everything else feels better. Why say this? D2 is long in the tooth and it is now behind its competition for gun feel. And I'm confident unless there's a D3 with new engine etc that D2 has slowly become a dead man walking. Why write this here because this gun performs well and it still just a run of the mill D2 weapon that just feels "meh" sure lots of success and damage etc but the feel of the weapon is really nothing special as with nearly every other D2 weapon and I wouldn't have known this by not playing CoD (which I'll admit was shocked to be playing again after a very long break).

[@WGG-01]

I feel like a lotta people are sleeping on the 60 base reload and 42 base handling, like those two stats are so huge for the feel of a slow firing pulse. It is one of the reasons why having a great rapid hit pulse can feel rough. Having solid handling and reload truly make the gun feel like a gun and not like a chore.

[@scottparrott5674]

My favourite was a keep away headseeker it has 85 stability and 75 range with keep away it feels so good. I like the zen moment one too though just couldn’t get the same stats as my keep away one.

[@BigPapasmurf84]

I have many awesome rolls for Elsie’s rife but the roll I am loving right now is under over with head seeker.

[@Enerjay88]

I wonder how that would work in The crucible. I have that on a shiny as well

[@BigPapasmurf84]

@@Enerjay88 I played a few games with this roll in crucible. I can’t tell you the numbers but it does stack on players with over shields etc.

[@Dynasty1818]

Always found high impacts fire so slow that people just run and hide after the first burst.

[@Decoy303]

Not one these. They are pretty quick firing and stable.

[@Spoooodyman]

I got Corkscrew/Ricochet rounds/Zen moment/Headseeker w/ range mw. 80 range and 70 stability (80 once both perks are enhanced). It feels so good.

[@BionicThiago123]

You know what might make a really interesting vid, honestly - is a breakdown of how you manage your vault. You cover tons of rolls all the time, but eventually you gotta make room for the next review - what do you choose to keep? Not a Datto cleaning or anything like that, just your own decision process from a player’s perspective and how the content creation affects it, etc.

[@diontes1480]

With the new changes in Exotics and subclass verbs, I am surprised to say that Loose Change is viable with this, especially with Headseeker. It is essentially triple the Aim assist, and double the ADS strafe speed of Moving Target with a reload bump and headshot damage bump. W atith Gyrfalcon Hunter, it will give you wall hacks, and damage groupers! Pair it w Rat King to keep it going

[@da_mitchello2815]

You know… I wish forerunner had discord; it’d be on a whole different level

[@banksy_gg]

This weapon is the secret meta right now, and I’m going to continue to abuse it in this new sandbox.

[@xAJAxY]

Machina Dei 4 - Curse of Osiris

[@Drakon4324]

I got the smallbore, ricochet rounds, zen, headseeker, and range roll. Oh when I just play a little further back it’s juicy

[@gryphon123456]

“Look at homie right here”. 😂😂lol

[@miguelarroyo8335]

I have Chambered, ric rounds, keep away , desperado and I really like it. Definitely top tier

[@p1nkbanana4582]

Cold Denial did have headseeker and zen moment beforehand, we just didn’t expect the buffs to the perks 😢

[@2Gals1Monkey]

i was lucky enough to get a shiny version of it straight away with zen/head seeker and desperado.. Thing slaps in pvp