Cooller vs CZM - ESWC 2005 Quake3 Grand Final 1080p Classic

[@bigsalty2003]

dont worry guys its 2019 and I still remember

[@phobos_2382]

big salty ...i played the whole afternoon deathmatches - Not comparable with Quake Champions

[@MrDo0bie]

@@phobos_2382 Q3A still online and alive. ThunderCats, we have 5 servers online 24/7. Have fun. All free.

[@phobos_2382]

The Doodleman oh yeah iknow ive Played Many times on Thundercats Royal

[@ruslannurabaev2384]

don't worry i still remember too

[@n3tfury]

@@snoosri yep! New FPS's just aren't the same.

[@The_Angry_BeEconomist]

the golden years of FPS

[@voidofambition]

Played this a lot back in the day. This is the purest fps, in my opinion. Straight up hand eye and map awareness.

[@TheVanillatech]

Was your name Escobar?

[@yudhveer99]

Ian Escobar agreed ....still my fav pc game

[@TheVanillatech]

MCBehemoth I think a WPM of 82 is just fine. I mean, I don't know anyone else who can do even 1/3rd of that in real life. For someone who basically learned to type by loading cassettes in a CPC464 and navigating around their storage under DOS 6.2 it's pretty fast. I have never worked in an office. What little typing I have done was a long time ago for college or University papers. I get by ... at least with 82WPM I'm basically writing at a reading speed level and can hold a text conversation in a chat room without any pauses. I suppose you can do 120WPM and that makes you a better person, yes? And sure, I was raping people with 1k+ hours on my first try online in UT2k4. Do I hate the game? Hell no. But it's not a great game, and the skillcap is far lower than many other games. It's more accessible because of this, and was infinitely more popular online because of this, and at the LAN parties I went to in the early/mid 2000's. Different strokes for different folks, I guess. I was brought up on a diet of Quake under wireplay and the Jolt 1v1 league, followed by division 1 Jolt Q3 OSP. Of course UT is going to be easy. I'm looking forward to UT4. It looks amazingly pure and the gameplay videos / duels I have seen so far are impressive.

[@mcbehemoth6230]

TheVanillatech No it's not, I've seen ten year olds pull off better speeds. As someone who has gamed competitively for several years, if not a decade AT Quake - your standards should be exceedingly higher. I can type slightly fast, but not at an exceptional level. Just 110+, although it's with a shitty laptop keyboard while lying on a bed. I miss my desktop and all. The average reading speed for fluent speakers of English lies in the range of 250-300+ WPM. I don't type much, but I think my fluency with the language coupled with years of gaming accelerated my potentialities for typing; not limited to that of course. Maybey. Doesn't sound too convincing, but it's not UT99 anyways. Amicably, 2004 was quite the disappointment, but your claims regarding skillcaps lack substantial reasoning. Maybe you meant that community's skill level in general, but even CoD potentially has an infinitely high skill ceiling. Some milestones haven't been reached yet - are you gonna even bother arguing with me about this? You might mean "skill-intensive", which Quake is undoubtedly moreso compared to the likes of generic shooters. At varying degrees, Quake definitely requires a lot more skill than other shooters - but you should stop implying that any single individual has managed to "cap" a skill ceiling. Absurd claims come with even more absurd complications. Define "skillcap" before you continue with bullshit. The only games I can think of that have achievable skillcaps are MOBA's, because of bullshit like items and builds and all. The individual doesn't really have to do that much. Yup, the newest UT has the most potential out of all arena-shooters I've seen to become really good - hopefully this will flourish further, and pave for the next competitive title in tournaments. Sorry for the long post. I had 20 minutes

[@TheVanillatech]

MCBehemoth Drawing a perfect circle has an infinitely high skillcap. You distracted yourself while trying to make yourself sound better than you actually are. Of course it is in relation to the average players skill. What else would you be talking about? The top 0.1% that dominate the other 99.9%? Get real. And sure, you have amazing fluency and mastery of your native language. Well done you! Only I placed first (absolute top) of my year in English Lit and Lang, at a school which came top of the country in the national exam league tables that particular year. So I guess your argument there has no credibility either, right? Bankers who retired at 27, Doctors, Laywers... all in my class that year. I whooped them ALL. 96 and 94% respectively. Sorry. And sure I could go faster if I gave a fuck. Obviously I don't. But I can build a house. Repair a 250 year old stone feature from a Church barret by hand using dry cast gear. I sell my illustrations for £250 a piece, portraits for £150 and I teach kids how to draw. Between these things and bringing up my two children, I don't really see the need to push myself beyond what is a perfectly functional speed of using a keyboard. Congratulations on your 110 though. Your mother will be proud. As will all of those 10 year olds you seem to enjoy competing with.

[@kuruptzZz]

I feel like those guys in the matrix watching morpheus and neo fight

[@Greghouse]

It took me almost 5 minutes to realize that they were switching between the players....I thought at first one of them was that good and never died.

[@climatechangeisrealyoubast3231]

took me like 8 lol

[@NightmareWalkthroughs]

2:22 This is what Quake is all about.

[@JaredDoyle76]

I remember playing the online beta demo and getting absolutely hooked. A 56k hardware modem on a clean phone line was all I needed in those days. Inviting friends over for all-nighter lan parties and loading up with energy drinks - PURE BLISS!!

[@stayin91degrees]

+Jared Doyle still better than anything today

[@DialthebarSoap]

How do you play LaN back in your days? Do they bring their own Computers or Laptop?

[@NONO-hz4vo]

@@DialthebarSoap Everyone brought their own computer and monitor which was like 50lbs of equipment.

[@CarlosChau]

That double air rocket at 2:20 was simply porno material

[@Nakilon]

PhD

[@-na-nomad6247]

almost pressed the tab button to check ping when they talked about lag lol

[@curseyehamewho]

same here all these years later, still ingrained in our heads lmao

[@-na-nomad6247]

@@curseyehamewho Yeah, for me I still play Wolfenstein ET so the same reflexes are used.

[@Mazxlol]

i miss how exciting it was to follow esports back in the day! i feel like gaming now is just not the same

[@willieb165]

Cuz it is an actual sport now?

[@kitosjek9541]

@@willieb165 no cuz it's a blatant soulless cashcow

[@panameadeplm]

@@kitosjek9541 all 3 of those words mean nothing

[@decebal01US]

Hello, just letting you guys know that I have redone this Grand Final in 4k at 60 fps: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZoK2aoicrcqGeM0 Here is a version without commentary, just with the in-game sound: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aHXUY4J9fseai5Y As a bonus, I managed to find the POV Demos from CZM for Map2 and Map3, so you will be able to see every frag.

[@TheNierbo]

+decebal01US Thanks for keeping all these an making em available.

[@Daemeon93]

2005 was 9 freaking years ago. Let that sink in for a minute

[@TheVanillatech]

10...

[@Daemeon93]

+TheVanillatech 11...

[@sylkuziel9450]

Now it's 12...

[@felixsylvestre]

12 years and still no other company that tried to come up with a fastpaced fps like this one

[@faisalalialazmy9920]

Daemeon 93 12 almost 13 wtf do you how to count?

[@EMB3D]

this is not a final ... this is a masascre

[@vastutnestoyalo]

Holy crap, I remember watching this online. Almost ten years ago, god, I feel so old.

[@sirkza8902]

Damn this comment was 6 years ago and here I am figuring out what this game even is for the first time

[@moki4011]

krisstrauma goddamn... that makes me feel so old. Played this to hell and back in elementary school

[@unclerhombus]

Now it’s been *another* 10 years!!

[@mymouseaintbroken8255]

damit@@unclerhombus

[@ProJanitor]

This makes me so proud to have played and thrived in this game.

[@TOCS94]

It's amazing to see how much faster and precise the meta got over the years. I still have some demos from 2015 playing QL against czm in some FFA matches. Good times.

[@Mazxlol]

To be honest game still looks great. What a great game, it was ahead of its time. Oh nostalgia...

[@majinbuu8579]

who's watching in 2015?

[@citroenzx1968]

:-P

[@CarlosOcelocoatlNungaray]

me! Dec 31

[@untoldstories372]

+Majin Buu 2016

[@pikachuchujelly7628]

+Majin Buu Who's playing this in 2015?

[@michael2305]

+Majin Buu its 2016 even and this match is a classic. =)

[@Ded_Babzdyul]

А я думал, что все с coller’ом видел. Боже мой, как давно я не играл в Кваку. Спасибо самоизоляции, поиграю сегодня. Вспомню как это было.

[@user-bd1kz8kh1j]

Так кто победил?)) Ни хуя не понял...

[@Ded_Babzdyul]

@@user-bd1kz8kh1j Дружба, очевидно же!

[@kathorsees]

​@@user-bd1kz8kh1j Наш победил, Кулер. Взял вторую и третью карты, первую проиграл - итого 2:1.

[@mayrolol]

The classiest of classics. Thanks for the upload.

[@goprodog4304]

This game is still the uncontested winner not only in its genre but considering all computer sports-games... and I played many since 1984 :)))

[@fnutek3720]

I would have to disagree whole-heartedly on that

[@goprodog4304]

@@fnutek3720 How?

[@fnutek3720]

@@goprodog4304 counter strike global offensive is easily the best eSports game. And id consider unreal tournament better in this genre

[@goprodog4304]

​@@fnutek3720 Why? I played both, I consider even Enemy Territory better in the genre, WoW is more exciting and involving all in all. CS is a camper game, no movement, UT is a Quake ripoff just lamer.

[@fnutek3720]

@@goprodog4304 Cs is a camper game, no movement? Just shows your incompetence. There is so much that goes into professional csgo. But i wouldn't imagine someone who considers Quake 3 the best esports game. Csgo's movement can feel more restricted. But it requires alot more precission. And now there is also other factors like teamplay, utility, timing, gamesense and reading. Most of what we saw in this quake 3 match would come in an average tf2 1v1 aswell. WoW is more exciting? How is WoW an exciting game. It's encaptivating but not exciting. UT was revolutionary and there is a reason its considered better by most.

[@NathanPerry.]

I'm sad when I realize this was 16 years ago, even though it feels like yesterday. I still remember these maps by heart including spawn times. :') They don't make games like they used to... [old man rambling noises]

[@Examus93]

Right there with you man :) It hit me hard when i realized that Q3 has already 21 years and will be 22 in dec. I still boot it up from time to time on the pro version with my lifelong friend and 1v1 on instagib with rails. Our skill decayed horribly from the glory days and we have only fraction of if but we still have a blast. We played around 60 hrs worth of 1v1's on quake champions but its just not it. Long Live Quake 3! Btw my first real multiplayer game that wasn't just a couch playing session on a console with 2 pads was Quake 2, i'll never forget it

[@NathanPerry.]

@@Examus93Yeah Quake Champions was a big old mess. The netcode was so f'ing bad... whereas I played Quake 3 with 200-400 ping sometimes back when internet got throttled during the day. Wasn't pretty, but it was way more reliable than Quake Champions with 50ms ping.

[@rizs1995]

Quake live still active :)

[@Kamdaman2024]

Gaddamn . Serious skill and memory do the map. Total domination

[@unsaltedbroadbeans1869]

There will never be a game like this ever again. *Morpheus and Neo fighting scene*

[@agamefan4481]

Who knows.

[@pollouk]

I must say these guys are just sick!

[@moejoe2949]

Quake 3 is still running believe it or not, Put in the old CD and it's updating Maps, New Maps on 2 Servers, I'm playing only one other player, CHECK IT OUT Quakers, Frag Ya Later!!!

[@pollouk]

When games became sports, here it is! Awesome!

[@Mr.Possums]

I remember back then whenever I go to a PC cafe, everyone's playing Counter Strike and I'm one the only one enjoying Q3. The fast paced non stop action was my thing.

[@AzaIndustries]

I wish arcade / scifi shooters would come back. All we have is CoD, CS and Clones of them. Much more interesting maps/weapons.

[@agamefan4481]

Introducing,Quake Champions!

[@trevnev2780]

@@agamefan4481 shit game

[@kristiankoski3908]

Arena shooters are coming back!

[@jenya_pu]

@@kristiankoski3908 when?

[@martin518441]

@@trevnev2780 It's good actually just has a small player base , all we have left is CSGO Quake live and Quake champions , live needs more players it's actually really good but it suffers from imbalanced mm because most of the people left are really good at it and when new people join they get insta recked and they quit the game fast

[@ReinierKaper]

God I miss this game! Played all my college years, wasn't good enough for duels, but our TDM was pretty solid :-) Will always be the best FPS game for me, unless some magical Quake 5 will be up to scratch :)

[@dasistmeinewelle]

then go for quakelive ... its free and servers are full nowadays!

[@Lat3ksi]

Reinier Kaper Try Reflex. It's early in development but it's very fun!

[@FelixMarshFTW]

Maybe try out Quake Champions?

[@tEaAOeww]

@@FelixMarshFTW no.

[@unclerhombus]

Quake Champions awaits you 💪

[@wrighrw2]

My teenage years Quake 2\3, UT such great games

[@TheVanillatech]

The fact you even mentioned UT in the same sentence as Quake 3 makes everything else you ever say total shitspeak.

[@metallitech]

TheVanillatech Could have meant quake 3 mod Urban Terror?

[@TheVanillatech]

metallitech Possibly. Urban Terror was legendary XD I played it for a few solid months back in the day, but lost interest and returned to OSP Q3. I did find out later that the community of Urban Terror continued to grow with more maps and guns and gameplay modes added for a long time after I left. Made me kinda regret leaving it. Thanks for reminding me about it! XD

[@SmotritelS]

Ut players always consider q3 as something primitive....

[@morky3673]

@@SmotritelS and vice versa. UT had inferior movement to me. Sluggish and inconsistent. Preferred some of the gunplay but at the same time the big 3 from Q3 make for a better demonstration of individual mechanics.

[@SagaraUrz]

They even know the cooldown left for the armor to appear.

[@morky3673]

Thats just the basics of quake chief.

[@Monikfrun]

Cooler was one of my favorites back in the day. Miss the quake days

[@VictorFernandes8]

2:20 .. gosh, this why I have massive respect from Quake veteran players

[@ale_karbi]

can't believe it was 10 years ago..

[@BeingofEvil]

+alex k yeah i feel old :|

[@tommasobonvecchio]

+aboomination cool!

[@salax44]

aboomination wat was ur fps on the gf1??

[@tiaracantik3615]

14 years ago.

[@dinomeet]

15 >.

[@areus19891]

2024 april and im here with my coco-juice, having a great evening .. enjoying this game from back then : ) LOVE IT !

[@n00ph]

2:21 it's incredible seeing thousands of hours of practice come together for a moment like this that doesn't even last a full second. quake is absolutely insane.

[@KlutchKwonDo]

I've never played Quake, but damn this looks fun as hell!

[@unclerhombus]

Try Quake Champions! Free 2 play.

[@pashastierle6405]

Watching in 2022, miss this age of shooters..

[@Traumwandler]

Cod, BF & Co are sooooo slowmotion against quake 3 :D

[@TheVanillatech]

***** Depends how fast you play it. There is a reason that Q3 was the premier FPS in the world for the last 15 years, and not Tribes.

[@TheVanillatech]

Lightnd Are you a moron? DEPENDS HOW FAST YOU PLAY IT! The simulated "speeds" at which you can "Ski" or whatever the fuck you do in Tribes has to be measured by the fact your opponent is probably 2.6 miles away from you most of the time, because it was huge outdoor maps with very little going on. Quake 3 on the other hand is like fighting a badger in a barrel. Not only that, but please never compare Quake 3 to UT. Finally, like I said, it DEPENDS on how FAST you PLAY the game, in other words how much skill you have. Why not take a look at the movie CYPHER CYPHER CYPHER here on youtube and tell me how slow Quake 3 is compared to Tribes ;)

[@Lightnd]

***** its about game dynamics and pace, not actual distance covered. Then freaking, 4x games are the fastest games out there because "ive never seen anyone traverse lightyears so fast even with vehicles" hurrr durrr durrrrr. And "starcraft is super slow because the marines walk at 6km/h" durrrr hurrrr

[@TheVanillatech]

***** It's hilarious. They have no idea of the superhuman manifestations that transcend our conciousness when we tear it up in ZTN at 3am in the morning sweating our tits off as we get spawn raped to fuck trying to get back into the game. I once took a 3 month break from QIII and one night I tried a little UT2004. Never played that game before ( I played UT2003 at LANS for a few weeks back in the day ) and I fucking RAPED everyone. Some guys were clanned up with thousands of hours clocked up on the game. Quake is for the best. The soldiers. The gods. When we move to other games, it's like Satan has thrown Hellfire on their servers, and the players tremble in the presence of our glory of the Quake Massive. -Quake III Master Race

[@TheVanillatech]

***** It actually took less time than you think. I write at 82 wpm and think so fast I never pause to correct or change something I said. You wanna take a game on Quake Live?

[@TheJayson8899]

Never seen 1440p in my life.

[@Gedux25]

LOL youtube now support even 4k

[@TheJayson8899]

Gedux25 What the hell?

[@amineaiffa]

It's so amazing even the title didn't believe it. Called it 1080p lol

[@computerscientist5953]

These players were fucking insane 15 years ago.... the tracking, the flicks.... and they didn’t have any aim trainers. All they had was quake 3 arena

[@daxi-yw8ui]

2021 and afps still hit different.....so good

[@Schatten2712]

I love watching these championships, I wish they pass this on tv

[@Kraken9911]

I never realized how much my favorite game looks like Minecraft in hindsight.

[@majinbuu8579]

oh hey! who's watching in 2016! Happy new year!

[@The_Angry_BeEconomist]

thankz for sharing this amazing final, 15 minute games, 100 hit point rail, fun times

[@mehmeta.164]

I am so proud that I was a part of this community. Quake 3 was the best.

[@randomcatdude]

I don't play Quake 3 at all, but this is really damn entertaining to watch. I like it.

[@seanvallegomez4704]

I still remember this game, my dad liked to play this game and I liked it to

[@daves6347]

2021..I can't be the only one!!

[@HaloGrey666]

i miss all the GIBS

[@GeneralOfKosovo]

4:13 O.o Cooller is GOD!

[@eblignoi]

невероятный уровень, впрочем, как и всегда, это ведь квейк между про игроками

[@colinchaput3586]

2023 and I still remember!!

[@GregosTH]

Played with Cooller on Gifford servers back in the days, everyone though he had a bot lol

[@Initialgs]

Gifford servers, now there was some good times....

[@metallitech]

CZM was super-human in the first game. It must have tired him out!

[@dktr2]

Beautiful times, it will never come back.

[@ZloYCaNta]

Чистейший ничем не замутненный экшн, один на один, выявляют лучшего из лучших! CS даже близко нет той зрелищности в матчах, чистый казуал)) но отдаю должное, что реакция и уровень игры у современных игроков намного превосходят игроков старой школы. Вот их бы да в старые проекты, типа quake 3 или unreal tournament, то матчи превратились бы в феерию экшена!

[@bikotheanimator6169]

I never got into Quake but Unreal Tournament is the greatest game of all-time for me. Unreal Tournament 2004 is the best first person shooter ever created.

[@baksteen123]

great upload

[@lordtesla9538]

It took me like 5 minutes to realize that they were switching players...I though the first one wasn't dying

[@suk4ed]

2024 - and still Cooller is the best thing has ever happened to Q3!

[@onmyj0b__]

still watchin… my childhood game

[@LexOtter]

Hard to believe this is the base engine behind cod its so different

[@bunnytrakt0r]

Golden time of q3. Very good game.

[@sakhadbd]

i watch this in 2016. damn, how can believe this game was 11 years ago?????

[@AlexanderBogdanow]

Back then, it was like a religion. Quake III OR UT. Counter-WHAT?! GFTO! Nice match btw

[@grenyena9190]

After watching this, I'm questioning why isn't there an HD remake of Quake, like from the ground up? Does it cost too much or are people just lazy because this looks like a badass game.

[@louflooue9138]

very high skill...

[@terasss2]

Quake was the only game with futuristic setting that I liked. Anyway, that was a great duel and a tournament.

[@Pro100Gadman]

Cooller Best of the best !!!

[@davidstud3952]

they have to be on some drug, no one can be this quick 😬

[@MaximG.]

Wow, the Camping Grounds looked much more claustrophobic than the Blood Covenant

[@miguelpereira9859]

Blood Covenant is awesome tho and looks way better too

[@anonanon5709]

the dm6 rocket jump by CZM and the comeback that almost was. The next tournament (18 moinths later basically) CZM was able to land a comeback on DM6

[@TopsyPlay]

1:32 top shot

[@ZakroyGlaza]

Это видео показывает, что раньше действительно было жестче. Сейчас уже вообще не то.

[@DarkPa1neR]

Nice editing. :) Thanks for upload

[@decebal01US]

Yes you are right :) But I didn't use the AGP video as a reference, I used the mp3 file I downloaded from gamestv. I could barely hear the jump sound, so I assumed it was bitterman.

[@craftuar2439]

Great Duel !! Good Players !!

[@ClaudioBOsorio]

Quake is such a good game. It should've been an eSports today :(

[@mitchellmitchells5950]

Why are they running IOquake3 or darkplaces (can tell from perpixle lighting)?

[@antioch4019]

I'd like to see the console fps fanboys claiming a controller is as good as m&k or even better, play this game or any of the original arena shooters with a controller and see how well they do against someone with m&k.

[@duxnihilo]

+Hagg Son No one claims that.

[@BeingofEvil]

+Hagg Son controlers are shit even for fightning games.

[@antioch4019]

BeingofEvil Well I must say I do prefer controllers over m&k for fighters, but the best for that genre is fightsticks imo.

[@BeingofEvil]

Hagg Son nah, mk is still arcade stick called hit box just without the stick.

[@antioch4019]

BeingofEvil What do you mean nah, that was all an opinion from me, there is no nah on an opinion. ;)

[@suk4ed]

2021 we still remember. And Ded vse esche v dele

[@suk4ed]

2024 we are still alive ❤

[@MrXuanB]

I remember I was here 😅 CMZ config looked so weird And Cooler answered his phone during the event

[@user-nr6yz9kh7e]

Кулер, Антон, ты ЛУЧШИЙ ! ! !

[@gratler]

was czm and cooller in the same clan? "x6"? does not seem plausible as czm was USA and cooller russian player. what am i missing?

[@mikekennethdevine]

One of the best games ever and my favourites.

[@SashaDovbnia]

2021 and still great

[@Walkman0007]

wow, big thanx man, gonna watch it laterz, but looks cool

[@jamesbund426]

Its november of 2023 and still got it )

[@bored7088]

When they got tired of Cooller winning all the time and introduced hub3 to the map pool.... 🤣

[@dark2ooth]

Yep. Cooller got him back on dm6.

[@ovol1ty]

classic! ty

[@Imi4000]

Good video! Thank you.

[@CTAPOBEP82]

я уж думал Куллер решил слить 2 матч) пощекотал нервишки

[@likemy]

crazy to see the level q3 was played at even back in 2005

[@pinbota]

After quake any fps is in slow motion.

[@Drum1984-tb5qv]

2024 and it's excellent with impressive

[@spacecassette2108]

bro wtf i just came here froma Halo 4 vid and this looks way more dope it really gets the senses going just like Brutal Doom

[@geertterharmsel]

this was peak quake