Copart Walk Around OKC 11-22-22 + Bidding on a SCHOOL BUS!!!

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[@JJDrones]

If air pressure fails the brake Chambers expand and parks the vehicle. That's why when you push in the parking brakes you are adding air to the system to retract the parking brake in the brake chamber

[@Apk07]

TL;DR: Parking brakes on by default

[@bryant07681]

Randy had many questions that of course if he had a CDL he would know lol. He should do a series where he drives school bus. I believe it is air assist. Also because the door was open the amber didn't work.

[@adamholmes740]

As a bus driver i can confirm. Basically air brakes need air to disengage, so no air = you ain't moving lol

[@Apk07]

@@bryant07681 can't fault a guy for not knowing about something he's never had to deal with. I agree though, would be cool watching him get a CDL if he ever needs one.

[@buckeyejim2989]

Maybe Randy don't understand, the absence of air engages brakes. That's why you must back off brakes to tow non runner🗿

[@davidsalmons80]

The air pressure actually holds the brake pads from compressing against the rotors so if the air line fails the brakes will be permanently activated until it's fixed I learned this from my bus driver because I was actually curious

[@2011Ronc]

It can loose air the compressor cycles but it work in opposite of what you think if air pressure is depleated the brakes lock up air pressure is the way the brake is released

[@davidsalmons80]

@@2011Ronc that's what I was saying lol

[@gmcmitzu]

I appreciate your persistence with sticking to cars that the every day guy can buy. All too often, KZbinrs get too big for their britches and start buying all of these expensive, exotic cars, that normal people can’t buy. Thank you for sticking with the oldies.

[@AFP24VCummins]

Randy, max air pressure is 120 psi. It'll occasionally build up past 120 psi then you'll hear the air dryer pop off. Which is the excess air. The doors on the bus work off of air cylinders. When it comes to the engine regen, the engine has to be at a certain temperature. With the switches on the side, noise suppression cuts power to everything inside the bus. Like the radio or your PA speaker which you called a CB radio. You talk into the microphone & it let's you speak through the speakers on the inside of the bus ONLY if the noise suppression switch is not activated. The amber lights work ONLY when the door is shut. Then when you open the door the red lights automatically come on. The strobe light switch is for the white strobe light on top behind the rear emergency exit on the roof. It's used for inclement weather such as rain, fog, etc to help identify it as a School Bus. The "emergency brake" is actually the parking brake. Once you pull the button, it ain't going anywhere.

[@rodell4729]

Randy.. you do not need a CDL endorsement to privately own a school bus or semi truck. If you plan on using it for business purposes, then you will need to obtain your CDL. Class A for semi trucks and Class B for something like a school bus or box truck with air brakes. People with a regular driver's license purchase school busses and convert them into RV's. It might be a good idea for a video for you to schedule an interview with the DMV or pull into a weigh station and speak with the state patrol about CDL endorsements.

[@TellurideS13]

You can't drive a school bus or a semi without a CDL. Even if you own it privately. The only way you allowed to drive a school bus without a CDL if you convert it into an RV.

[@rodell4729]

@Telluride That is not true. Signs must be clearly displayed on a semi, school bus, or other vehicle like this that clearly states that this vehicle is not for hire but you do not need a CDL. I have a CDL and have had for 10 years. Laws vary by state, but I haven't heard of any yet that require a CDL to privately own one. There is a huge community of people that own semi's and the mini semi's and tow huge 5th wheels and they do not have a CDL. The deeler won't let you drive one without a CDL for insurance purposes but you can walk into tractor dealer and buy a semi and then drive it off the lot as long as you state that you are not for hire. The purpose of the CDL is because you intend on engaging in interstate commerce. You know how many vehicles on a farm would require a CDL if the 26,001lb law applied to them? All farmers would have a CDL. I think you should do a little more research, sir.

[@MrWolfSnack]

@@rodell4729 Robert is correct. CDL law only applies to someone as per business or operating an interstate transport corporation. It doesn't apply to Joe Handyman who buys a scrapped school bus. Also I believe churches that have actual retired school buses do not have CDL's either and the sisters or church volunteer will drive them just fine. Also like you said many people have antique semi trucks and drive them around, and they rig them up somehow on farm equipment plates or on truck plates, or whatever have you. I think you can get them tagged on historical vehicle plates in some states. You just have to have some way to prove if the DOT pulls you over that you are not engaging in commerce and have no business. Your grandma can drive an RV 10 times bigger than that school bus and do it on her expired car driver license, so the CDL laws do not apply to civilians.

[@dcformee123]

Hey Randy when a air brake vehicle loses air pressure they automatically lock up so you don't have to worry about them rolling take care good luck with your purchases.

[@j3rmain3]

Also, the air leak in the bus is most likely the parking brake valve which is right behind the dash. Super easy and cheap to replace. Most just need a new o-ring.

[@GrouseAlleyGarage]

Freightliner/international Master technician chiming in here. That's a freightliner m2 chassis. The brakes have a very heavy duty spring in the brake chamber that pushes the shoes against the drums via a slack adjuster and S-Cam. When you release the brake it fills a diaphragm with air that releases the spring. It will not roll away when the air drops unless the springs are broken. Also the system should hold 125psi. The P and S on the air gauges mean Primary and Secondary. It has 2 tanks. Both separate from eachother incase of a failure. The air tanks won't begin to fill again until it goes below 100psi. As for the CDL, you would need to remove the seats to drive it. You need a Passenger endorsed cdl to drive it with that many seats. If you have any questions I would love to answer! Stay safe randy!

[@JJ4213FL]

Air brakes work the reverse of hydraulic brakes. Air brakes are engaged by springs, and the air pressure is what disengages the brakes, so if there is a sudden drop in air pressure, the brakes will engage. You lose hydraulic fluid, no stoppy. You lose air pressure, no goey. To simulate sudden loss of air pressure in our training, we had to get up to 35 mph and pull the parking brake. Surprisingly, the bus comes to a smooth, quick stop with no drama.

[@NoahClay6]

Great video Randy. All of the stuff you bid on has some great potential. The school bus could of had some great potential. Thought the van on CNG was pretty cool as well. Keep up the great stuff as always.👍

[@traybaynard8925]

Not gonna lie , I really enjoyed the bus tour! Do more of these along with semi tours!! Thanks Randy

[@wes11bravo]

Randy - Exactly right. That's a key vault. It's so the mechanics always have access to the vehicle. I work for the telephone company and every vehicle in my garage has one.

[@joshuabreeden1211]

Randy I think you have a few scammers on here one of them commented on my previous message I believe trying to act like you I still love your channel. I'm paralyzed it gives me something to look forward to. Sorry to make this long but I believe the air brakes on the bus once you have locked the parking brake even if the system bleeds off all of the air the bus won't move until you replenish the system with enough air pressure to unlock the parking brake my old boss used to let me play around and some of the rigs and box trucks he had those things are fun I miss it since I've gotten paralyzed though hope you get to see this comment. You make me smile.. Thank you

[@chrystalvalentine2324]

Hey Randy, I'm a School Bus driver. And the top air gauge is the primary and the second glair gauge is the secondary. And no the bus won't roll. At 60 psi or more the low air warning will come on which is an audio and light on the dash. Now on some buses 40 psi and lower the spring brakes will activate... now that air leak by the door is more likely the seal the the emergency release on the door. Which was somewhere on top of the door...any questions you may have on the bus just ask me. I've been driving school buses for over 25 years. And I've been a fan of yours for about 6 months now. And yes you have to have a CDL to drive that bus.

[@Jeepin290]

Yessss, finally! Have fun with it, they’re fun to work on.

[@PHIGHTING___]

Love the walk arounds. Keep doing what you want. You do damn good at whatever you do.

[@tornadokegan]

Hope you enjoyed the Oklahoma weather. I bet it was very cold when you got back to Indiana

[@juanlebronortiz]

On vehicles with air brakes when any component fail and loose air pressure the brakes will lock up, when you start up and buit air pressure then they will unlock when you release them. Hope that helps

[@PaddyBoy644]

I’ve driven a few CNG light commercial trucks in Australia, all of them had constant issues with ignition failures and horrible fuel consumption! Cheers Pat🇦🇺

[@mattclinch1976]

C2 is a great bus. I prefer them over international and blue bird. Way better turning radius. The ride quality all depends on what seat you have. Big fuel. Huge fuel tank.

[@timblakeney5705]

I love watching auto auction rebuilds iam waiting for next video to come out auto auction rebuilds is my favorite show !

[@nascar-fanjunkie5062]

That van is definitely a great deal! It would be cool to see you have the van and be able to haul all your tools. Then you would be able to do all of your work on your "Will it make it home?" videos! :)

[@justinpaone2227]

You can buy that bus. You don't have to register it for 31000gvw. At least in Minnesota you could register it for 26000 and your good. The vehicle doesn't weigh more than 18,000. It's all about the paperwork and total actual weight if you go across a scale. There are lots of box trucks running around that can handle a total weight of 31,000 but their registered for 26 so that you don't need a CDL to drive it. At that point you just got to make damn sure that you never over 26,000 like your dot paperwork says.

[@johnv6542]

I watch every video you make love everything keep up the fantastic work 👍😎☺️

[@thunderroad7289]

That e 250 van would make a great work truck. We have a few F 350s and we have to use two of those GB 150 jump packs to jump start when the battery’s are dead. As far as the bus the air system will leak air as it sets. It usually will drop to around 100 pounds and then the compressor will kick on and bring the pressure back up.any air leaks it has is a easy fix. Don’t worry it will not roll if it hits 60 pounds of air the brakes will set lock up it won’t roll. When you pull the brake valve the brakes lock anyways. It will not roll unless the brakes are way out of adjustment. It has air brakes so you need a cdl endorsement

[@trevorbatts3354]

There will be a bypass lever for the door to close under air pressure. It’s released when bus is parked so door can be opened without air pressure. Once you find the lever for door it should open and close when air pressure is available. It should not be leaking though, but should be an easy fix when found.

[@braden6402]

Randy that 6.7 ford would be perfect for traveling and buying cars. I love the idea of this and I think it would make great content!

[@joseagarcia6866]

Hey brother next walk around could you do one of the trash trucks or waste management trucks I’m sure your audience would love it and again thanks for your hard work in making these knowledgeable and entertaining video I watch you every day we’ll have a good thanksgiving you and your family

[@Robert-ws3mk]

I have to admit Randy I'm addicted to your videos 😆

[@shaunbailey9272]

that van would make an awesome RV conversion. van lifers should definitely be looking at vans from copart.

[@NomadicHooker]

BTW, you can declassify that bus to be a 26,000lb ride. I drive 4 of mine and no CDL. Also, if you convert one to an RV and have RV plates, you're exempt from the GVWR rule. Non CDL license holders drive biggo diesel pusher Prevost coaches and such. So long as it's an RV, you're exempt. Same with 5th Wheel RV trailers that are long enough that normally you'd be required to have a CDL, you're exempt if it's an RV.

[@frankmachado1010]

look at all those intelligent people, I grew up across from a auto salvage yard that also had rubbish removal business ( city pick-ups and container service) even drove a Mack. it seems all the men in my family started out working there, 7 boys and 7 girls but only the men worked there. was a great place to work. 56 Nomads to Edsel's, you name it it was there even a BMW Isetta.

[@NomadicHooker]

The whole purpose of air brakes is the Air RELEASES the brakes. If it loses it's air, then brakes lock up so it can't roll. This is why they are safer and used in commercial trucks. Where as if you lose brake fluid, you lose your brakes. With air brakes, if you spring air leaks, then your brakes lock up. In short, air brakes are fail safe. When they fail, they stop you. Juice brakes. Brake fluid brakes fail, you crash. Most of those leaks are very minor and no big issue. It's common if you spin that Park brake button, you'd tighten up one leak. The air seat might have had a leak that you were hearing. Air horn hose might have had a leak, air door mechanism might have had a leak. So long as the engine running keeps the pressure at a safe level to keep the brake open, then you can roll and drive it.

[@trebor229]

Loved the video Randy! But ehmm, where was the bidding a "SCHOOL BUS!!!"🤪Little klick bait goin' here huh

[@Oyvind88]

Great walk around, great workhorse van😎🔥👌

[@christophergamingofficial]

36:10 it would auto apply the air brake until safe, so it would be fine. As a major bus fan and expert I get asked this all the time.

[@1ohmwrecker]

My uncle had one of those vans to haul his tools back when I worked under him as a sub contractor. It blew spark plugs multiple times. Took us like 10 hrs to tap it and do the sleeve thing. Started going down the road for 5 mins just for it to blow right back out. It was yerrible lol.

[@davidheck7458]

Randy there are solenoids all over that dash for the parking brake they purge as well and that’s why I hear hissing the door runs off air pressure as well there is a solonoid on that to

[@toolzshed]

Whoa you can turn that bus into an RV 😊🤘🏽🔥

[@joey....7580]

Yes I miss that copart walk around but I like all your videos.

[@alexander.kinkleasmr3557]

OMG i been wanting you to do this

[@yoyoshirocks3782]

Omfg a school bus yesssss is that’s my dream right there no idea why but I always loved school buses

[@davidlamb2658]

On a bus like that the restrictions change. You can either register it for personal or recreational use and it won’t require a CDL, if it’s being used for commercial use as long as you aren’t transporting more that 15 passengers. Yes the air system operates the brakes and there is no parking gear, but the air pressure is used to release the brakes, not hold them on. Each wheel has a spring loaded brake chamber, when you press the yellow brake handle it supplies air pressure to one side of a rubber diaphragm that compresses that spring which pushes against a connecting rod attached to the S Cam that pulls the brake shoes in and away from the brake drum.

[@yousefadham7424]

Hey Randy the door actually does function if you look right above the door there’s an emergency release button. you can twist.

[@NomadicHooker]

DING DING DING !!! You win !!! That is a spare key holder that you wondered what is and guessed spare key holder. The driver assigned to that truck KEEPS HIS KEY. Now the tow truck drivers who have the AT&T account and all the AT&T authorized service techs have the key to that spare key container which is the same on all the trucks, so they can get to the spare key for towing and service and they put it back when they are done. ONLY authorized tow truck operators and service techs have that key and they put down a hefty deposit to have that key. But yes, you guess was 100% on target. Now you KNOW.

[@madman4734]

Crazy as hell 🤣🤣🤣 you and Mike ....

[@carlover4lyfe]

Air brakes are basically backwards, they rely on air to work, with no air they would lock up! Think of a tractor trailer when it locks up those skid marks is because it lost air lol but love the vehicles in this video randy!! Your making big moves lately!!! I remember the old days!!

[@mikedugan6081]

I have had several at&t vehicles that thing you were asking about on the side of the van is a lockbox you will see them on every At&t vehicle it is a spare key but the mechanic shop is the one with the keys to the lockbox so they can leave the vehicles at the maintenance shop without leaving the keys in the vehicles

[@hotmessfommy]

Air brakes actually have two types of brakes. Foot brakes and Parking brakes. Before starting a journey, one push in a yellow tractor Air Brake valve and a Red Trailer AB Valve on the dashboard. That pressurized the entire system to release the Parking Brakes and allow the vehicle to move. During movement, pushing the foot break activates a second portion of the system and applies the same break pads. In essence, they preform in the same way your car brakes do. If the air hose to the trailer spring a leak or breaks, air pressure is lost thus applying the parking/emergency breaks and the wheels won’t turn until repaired. If you’re driving along on an interstate and you see four skid marks appear at the same time and then vier off to the shoulder, some poor unlucky driver just lost air pressure in the trailer breaks

[@dandrrebuilds8912]

I'm a truck driver. If your airline busts your brakes will lock up. When you pull the parking brake you release the air from the system, same concept if you break a line.. air brakes are probably the best braking system ever built

[@andrewb.9414]

Air Brakes on ALL Commerical Vehicles, are called Spring Brakes, Spring Brakes work in reverse to what you are saying in the video. If all of the air pressure is lost in the system, the brakes are actually stuck on until the air pressure is built up again. The reason for this is, that air is used to release the brakes, and the very powerful spring is used to apply the brakes. There are redundancies built into air brake systems for this very reason, especially on a school bus with kids as their only cargo, braking systems need to be built to take on any issues that come up. I hope this eased any concerns for future Commercial Vehicles you come across!

[@franciscorivas9436]

Randy you should make a video for the Chevy avalanche 2005 and upper

[@martinmoore8730]

It also has spring brakes that hold the vehicle in place when you pop the knobs out.

[@pupbus1208]

I have personally worked on that bus and know the contractor. I am the Head mechanic for Allegany County Public Schools and I install the camera and radio systems in every bud and remove them at the end of service life 12 years.

[@klemme34ify]

Missing the walk arounds but loving the side content

[@mikekizer2037]

That vault on the side of the van is for a spare key. Easy to drill out supra makes them, we have them on all of our fleet vehicles

[@tiltedtrucker]

When you set the parking brakes in any air brake vehicle, you activate the spring brakes which keep it in place and prevent it from rolling away. On the regeneration, you need to keep the regeneration button pressed in until it starts to idle on its own on a higher idle. Idle you'll know when it's doing it. Keep it pressed in! Enjoy yourself. Have a great day!

[@williamconley7]

Daughter Mom and Dad and Dad

[@7runamuck]

On the C2 bus, look up multiplex electrical system regarding that bus...the best place for that bus is nose first in a shredder.

[@markpearce1103]

The dually is MWM ready with the fire extinguisher for his next repair job

[@anerdfrommars1566]

So as a school bus driver I can clear some things up. 1 you would need a CDL to Drive that Vehicle, one reason would be because of the weight, the other reason is because the equipped capacity (designed to carry more than 15 passengers plus driver) requires a passenger/school bus endorsement. 2 the radio by that dashboard is not a CB radio that is a interior/exterior radio for the driver to communicate with the passengers, this why there were speakers along the side of the bus on the interior. 3 The amber warning lights would only work with the door closed, the arm on the front bumper is to make the students cross where the driver can see them if they need to cross the street. 4 There are more things than just brakes handled by air pressure, the front door is controlled by it as well, that would explain why the air pressure went down when you messed with the door controls. 5 to ease your concerns regarding the brakes when the bus's air pressure drops down to between 30 to 35 psi the spring brakes/parking brake engages which will keep the vehicle from moving, the way to test the brakes is building up to governor cutt off (150 psi) turn engine off, let gauges cycle (come back to 0), switch to the run position, release parking brake hold brake pedal down, when gauges settle time out 1 minute you should lose no more than 2 psi, then you would pump the brakes down, at between 70-60 psi you should get a warning buzzer and dashboard light to come on, then keep pumping at 40-30 psi you should get the parking to pop out/apply, then you'd start the engine up to build the pressure back up. If you're parking the bus and leaving it then you should set the parking brakes. Also just a side note that bus has a weird door control lay out lol

[@danielventura8073]

I like the Copart walkarounds

[@chrisellis6832]

Randy, no air and the brakes automatically lock on. Air brake chambers are usually only fitted to the rear axle.

[@mexicanspec]

I agree with you on the AT&T van, Randy. It would make a good tow pig with all your tools inside. A better vehicle would be a decommissioned box ambulance with a turbo diesel engine. The ambulance even has a bed in the back in case you need to take a nap. The ambulance also has roof lights in case you are recovering a car at night.

[@kristoffermangila]

The fella at #NoNonsenseKnowHow owns a retired Freightliner ambulance he plans to convert into a mobile repair rig.

[@MuddSlinger99]

Rear brake chambers are spring brakes. It uses air pressure to release the spring brake which is the parking brake. If you loose air pressure it sets the spring brake or “parking brake” and stops the vehicle. Also if you get less than 20 psi in the system it automatically set the parking brake.

[@fogetit1204]

I love all the vids you make randy but I did miss the copart walk arounds

[@allenback9396]

HAPPY THANKSGIVING FROM SOUTHERN KENTUCKY

[@garyessary6589]

CNG stations are pretty common in your area but you get out of Oklahoma and they are few and far in between.

[@kenbell7745]

The air leaks are easy to fix and the motor sounds very good. It will not roll no air brakes lock

[@tntrich1]

I'm going nuts wanting to explain about the air system. You need to know as part of the CDL testing. There a range that the air needs to be at. The compressor kicks on when low, shuts off when high.

[@Adam_SRT..717]

Nice video Randy

[@JONMPG]

I love the old ford vans. I am a Ford fan boy though. In the state of Iowa if you buy a School bus for personal use only not commercial use you do not need a CDL unless you intend to use the bus for commercial purposes.

[@ZombieTide]

The air leaking from those components is relatively normal. Holding air pressure for too long is bad if it’s too high. Now if those fittings are GUSHING air, you should be worried. But that slow hiss is fine.

[@kathy7107]

A Bark bus. Never heard of that. How adorable.

[@DoubleKlutch99]

The regeneration button on those Freightliner C2/M2's need to be held for around 5-10 seconds. We have the M2 single axle tractors for my job. Essentially the same nose, and dashboard as the school bus in the video

[@lawrencetaylor5481]

Without air pressure, the brakes stay on. Also, to do a re-gen with the switch, you have to hold the switch for 4-10 seconds, depends on the engine, model atc. My truck it's 8 seconds I believe. As far as the 26,000 lbs, I do believe that is only if you use it commercially because I know those old folks in those huge motorhomes that are the size of a Greyhound bus don't have a CDL to drive them. People buy school buses and make them into campers and don't need a CDL to drive them.

[@justin6581]

Wow! That “junk” school bus is 100x better than our 25 year old school buses.

[@shawnlanders2034]

Randy you can make a house out if that bus and stay in it instead if a motel. If I had a school bus, I would turn it in to a travel house

[@pc578]

The first minute and 20 seconds, LOL!

[@eatont9999]

I believe the air pressure is used to open the brake shoes. They are normally closed by spring pressure.

[@Chris-oc9wu]

Bendix air breaks have a spring inside. if they loose air pressure they lock to full break mode.

[@foltoncalhoun1538]

Good vid randy

[@norfolksouthernes44acgevo40]

Thomas Built Busses Freightliner C2 Saf-T-Liner!

[@timforbrook9169]

The best way to explain air brakes is it works the opposite of the breaks in your car

[@chloethelab]

Randy to shut the air door there is a red switch that is a air release. Door is most likely in emergency mode for when the driver gets off the bus flip it to normal and have the door switch on the dash in the closed position and the air door will close and work via the door switch on the dash. Also get the stereo working the speakers on the c2 are not half bad. My bus driver would crank the tunes loud when I was in school. He was a great bus driver. We'd rock out on the way to school.

[@briandavis3736]

Turn the emergency switch above the doors

[@chloethelab]

@@briandavis3736 yep

[@ethanmaccall9687]

It's safe Randy if anything the brakes won't release and if failure they will engage

[@adamlynn6648]

Randy the 8th digit is the engine 5, W & L are 5.4 codes

[@Floridamermaid]

The bee was enjoying your intro

[@WWRD1234]

Airbreaks will automatically lock up And there is no air present love you show

[@timblakeney5705]

I miss the copart walk around !

[@bdtaylor1979]

My booster pack has no problem starting most diesels…except that one 😂

[@nathantatosian280]

Hi Randy what are you going do with school bus 😂😂 I now about school bus I used to work on them part time job

[@RicardoPCGamer]

The bus door probably doesn't close because the bypass valve is open. There should be a lever near the top of the door that has normal and emergency positions. Emergency allows the door to be opened and closed by hand. Normal allows the switch to control them.

[@janvanbeilen]

No Randy when the air is gone the brakes will engage. You need air to disengage the brakes.

[@perrywilliams1214]

I do really miss the walk arounds.

[@kenbell7745]

Randy when you loss air it locks the brakes at 40 or 30 lbs it is totally safe

[@mahatma171]

That second unit is the one. The van is good but the diesel is better all around.

[@jeremycolquitt5081]

Looks like your major question was answered. In air brake systems, the brakes are spring applied and pneumatically released. Put simply, it takes air pressure to release the brakes by overcoming spring pressure. If you have an air leak, the brakes don’t just lock up while driving down the road. That would be dangerous. Instead, what the driver will experience is brake drag. Then difficulty getting the brakes to release until the pressure drops so low that the brakes will be fully engaged. That is all. Unless the brakes are caged then, your initial concerns would be spot on. G&B Automotive!!! Waynesville MO

[@alt7488]

cnc/lpg cars/trucks are hard on ignition systems, they need good spark plugs/coils to fire

[@ZeeMann_Retail]

Hey Randy, great content! Out of curiosity, what do the garbage trucks at copart look like?

[@mrsalvage9301]

I never seen him look at none but that would be pretty cool

[@lovellmills7959]

you have to have it registered as an rv so that it knocks off all the dot requirements. once you register it as one, you wont need a cdl.