Copper Crystals Recovery From Waste

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@rockman531 Ай бұрын

Hi Mike, Great information! Looking forward to part 2! This video is 2 days too late?? Just finished cleaning up my back yard which includes my bubblers. Threw away all the sludge from my IC chip 'De-Legging' waste. I guess it's better to learn late - than not at all. I'll have more sludge soon - all 3 bubblers will be running again within 2 weeks. Waiting for some new bubbler tubing. Glad to hear the clean-up is going well! Best of luck getting your power back on soon! Thumbs up! Jim

@korpse6rinder Ай бұрын

I'd recommend putting copper in with the waste and then a second bucket with iron after it has been through the copper. Just to make sure not to miss any silver or pgms.

@MadScientist267 Ай бұрын

No, electrowinning is much simpler and has a much easier to deal with waste stream.

@korpse6rinder Ай бұрын

@@MadScientist267 I don't know about simpler, but it could be used. One bucket with copper then one bucket with iron with no watching or electric use is pretty easy. Recovering the pgm slimes from the copper bucket with electrowinning would save on acid cost

@empirefinds Ай бұрын

Awesome brother

@keithrodman9318 Ай бұрын

Looking forward to seeing part 2. Hope you get your power back on soon!

@Stalkerrob20 Ай бұрын

I wonder if the zinc was creating an electrolysis reaction due to the salts. Could be why it got so hot also. Zinc blocks are what they use in salt water to prevent oxidization on sea walls and stuff. Could be why it formed crystals.

@zeromotivation1817 Ай бұрын

They used to, probably still do that on ships too, its actually sobering when you think how often they have to resupply the zinc.

@mcwolfbeast Ай бұрын

Bonus using iron to pull the copper out is that the resulting iron salts aren't toxic and can be discarded safely. Not so with copper salts which are toxic to the environment.

@safetyflipflop Ай бұрын

Please stop spreading this bs. Iron salts ARE toxic and can't be disposed without treatment. If you dont belive me, jug a glass of iron chloride and see how that goes... Or just look it up on Wikipedia...

@24KGOLDRECOVERY Ай бұрын

Excellent video bro

@williefleete Ай бұрын

Around 140g per litre not bad

@georgewarner7210 Ай бұрын

Glad to hear that ur safe after the hurricane!

@StillFunBrewing Ай бұрын

This is cool, I work in industrial oil field scrapping. My shop runs through 15k-25k lb of down well oil field pumps per week. We deal with Ni-resist, inconel, monel, copper, steel and tungsten carbide. We recover most of the tungsten but a lot explodes and shatters and becomes floor sweeps. I probably have 8-10k lb of floor sweeps that are loaded with nickel, copper, steel and carbide. I would bet the carbide is near 5% or more of that weight. I really need to put together a process to separate all of that and make it sellable metal.

@konobikundude Ай бұрын

Mount baker metals and mining might run a bulk sample for characterization

@StillFunBrewing Ай бұрын

@@konobikundude hmmmmmmmmmm interesting. I think I need to classify out the floor sweeps a bit first. Get all the big nickel based metal chunks out first. I was thinking Hydrochloric acid should be able to dissolve most of what is there and not touch the tungsten carbide. Just haven’t had the gumption to give it a go yet. But I’ll just keep collecting 55 gal barrels of the stuff until I do.

@konobikundude Ай бұрын

@@StillFunBrewing oh, prior to starting leaching or the like you would be able to run stuff through a mill and over a miller table to collect the heavies. Should be able to go to an assay melt from there to get all your percentages of different elements, to at least know what the composition of your sweepings are likely to contain and if the recovery is worth the cost.

@StillFunBrewing Ай бұрын

@@konobikundude we build all kinds of custom industrial destructive machines processing difficult material, a large hammer mill and shaker table are on the list

@guytelfer1353 Ай бұрын

If you have decay on the pipe you're using to cement out, then you left it in to long, next metal to cement out will be with a different type of aluminum, bendable aluminum not bendable aluminum a aluminum pipe or aluminum nails until hydrolic has returned clear, if your hydrolic has been sitting the water in it sits on top so. You can get some of the water out of your hydrolic by freezing , let thaw some and pull a nice clear brick of ice off, you should know exactly how much water you added to the hydrolic along with the other stuff

@okboomer6201 Ай бұрын

Nickel is definitely a component of the stainless legs.

@mariushmedias Ай бұрын

Would you achieve much faster results if you were to constantly agitate and gradually add steel granules, chips etc (I'm thinking periodically dropping those steel E and I pieces from classic transformers, or chips from drilling into steel, aluminum shavings from machining aluminum parts) ?

@christopherleubner6633 Ай бұрын

You could use electricity to grab the copper. Just keep the voltage low. Also silver lead and tin will settle out as the iron and copper disolve and should be at the bottom of the bucket.

@zeromotivation1817 Ай бұрын

I used to get Aluminium as shavings from a machine shop, i would clean up near drill presses used on the Al for free, did ok for a short amount of time. Shavings would work a little better as more surface area to mass ratio. Probably better to have some idea of molarity of the acid, and be cautious adding the Al.

@farpointstation Ай бұрын

Wouldn't there also be a fair amount of lead / chloride?

@ANCIENTASTRONAUT411 Ай бұрын

Yeah lots man look at the yellow that's lead

@christopherleubner6633 Ай бұрын

There might be but it would be very insoluble due to common ion effect and it's poor solubility as it is.

@zeromotivation1817 Ай бұрын

As for the power and clean up, look after yourself & neighbours if you have the ability, don't worry about us chemical tragics online, stay safe, we'll still be here.

@cole7750 Ай бұрын

Will the Steele work with copper nitrate liquid as well?

@jorgemach___2162 Ай бұрын

Yes it will drop out all metals under iron

@custos3249 Ай бұрын

If you don't want to get super involved/put in much effort, sure. You can also cook it off with high enough heat. However, you can recover the nitric acid too if you have the right set up by converting the copper nitrate into copper sulfate using sulfuric acid, then you can electroplate out the copper from the copper sulfate super easy.

@MadScientist267 Ай бұрын

Look up "electrowinning". Much less involved process and you don't put even more metals in solution that you then need to deal with later.

@zeromotivation1817 Ай бұрын

Good point, came here to say just that, the nice thing about electrowinning is that ( as the copper is already in solution , all you would really need is a DC current and 2 non reactive ( in a lab at uni we used 2 graphite electrodes). the copper should then deposit on the cathode Also if you know both current and time, you should get a fair idea of the amount of copper. Not sure how you would tell when all copper has been deposited out, maybe the solution would change colour, loosing the green?

@MadScientist267 Ай бұрын

@@zeromotivation1817 There are ways to optimize the cell but that's the basic idea. Color change in the case of copper chloride solutions is a tricky thing. There really are only 2 colors but because of interaction with the light, an observer gets the appearance of 4. It ranges from blue to yellow but this manifests as blue to green to yellow to brown. This results in possible confusion if there are unknown impurities (such as iron, yellow, or nickel, green) in solution. When the purity of the solution is highest, the solution will be driven almost completely clear. On the unreactive side of hydrogen, the metals are easily separated out by careful potential management. Meaning pulling gold out requires a lower voltage than going after copper, for example. The "waste" within a cell after being pushed clear of metals is largely a mixture of the original acids used to dissolve the metals that were present, along with some minor side-reaction products that can potentially form. If the acids are further processed, the entire stream can loop back on itself here and take full advantage of recycling. Also a good place to simply neutralize by something like either sodium hydroxide or sodium carbonate that will precipitate other trace metals as their insoluble hydroxide or carbonates. The resulting liquid will be largely sodium chloride, nitrate, and sulfate, all of which are prevalent in nature, making final disposal easy. The hydroxides/carbonates are readily dried and stored until there's enough to get rid of.

@MadScientist267 Ай бұрын

@@zeromotivation1817 It's really annoying to type out an explanation to answer someone's question and have this useless pile of a platform just delete it. I'm over KZbin. The sooner everyone else is too, the sooner it can change.

@zeromotivation1817 Ай бұрын

@@MadScientist267 ?? If I offended , I am sorry i'll delete my comment.

@MadScientist267 Ай бұрын

@@zeromotivation1817 No... wasn't you. KZbin regularly crosses the line and removes comments that have nothing to do with anything. I went through the trouble of explaining some things and it just nuked it.

@jorgemach___2162 Ай бұрын

Yes

@brianbonenberger8054 Ай бұрын

Just put pieces of angle iron in the bucket like sreetips does. Then let it sit till the copper cements out.

@johannesdesloper8434 Ай бұрын

The sewage treatment plants in the Netherlands even dose IronChloride on the incoming sewage on the plant to percipitate Phosfates in the sewage water and take it out with silt retrieval.

@johannesdesloper8434 Ай бұрын

I know that for a fact because I've seen them build such a dosing aparatus in 1996.