The Evolution of The MapleStory Meta | GMS | MMO Nostalgia

[@I-VisiBomb-I]

4:05 this was the prime of the game in my opinion. guilds were so active because of these maps, friends would be online all the time, the damage cap was reasonable, the time it took to level up those pesky 160-170s was just good enough to not just straight up quit the game, the family system still worked if i remember correctly, and there was just enough class variaty to feel unique and also not overwhelmed.

[@christunstel6954]

No question my whole alliance quit when they removed them and most never returned

[@EmvielleOST]

agreed. LHC was such a good time.

[@bradyvilhauer4445]

Family system 😢😢😢 my brother and I were the only ones in our MS family 😆 but we GRINDED those points training together!!!! Dangit. Who would have thought it was a good idea to remove social systems like that. So many games have removed them. So utterly sad, just let us be a FAMILY AGAIN!!!

[@chukles3430]

Party play LHC was indeed peak maple imo as well. Was the first time I really got into the meat of 4th job on my main and even got a few others into the 130s. Making it into a nearly full crockies party at level 110 was bliss. Really allowed strong and weak players alike to team up to form full parties and scratch both the mobbing and mini-bossing itch.

[@Steleaf]

i miss how the social aspect is gated till late game, chilling in HPQ early was some of my fondest memories playing maple

[@jessemoe727]

It's not gated to late game at all. Not on reboot atleast

[@Roflmao6173]

@@jessemoe727 it kind of is, depending on what your definition of late game is. Unless you get carried, a lot of people will opt to solo up till lomien. Partying only starts at like luwill, which is relatively far in for a casual player to have actual contribution. In some manner of speaking it can be considered late game cause of how long it would take a casual player to reach that point, even though of course in the strictest sense of the term it is not at all near late game of the content available in maplestory. In the past it started right from lvl 21, and even earlier once henesys pq was introduced. Of course, with hyper burning that will hopefully no longer be considered "late game" even for a casual player.

[@jessemoe727]

@@Roflmao6173 I made a good bit of friends early on when I came back in the beginning of October. and we have a guild now and do bossing together. Out of the 10+ friends I made this month. I talk and group with 7. Whether helping our mules, bossing, arcane daily party quests etc.. I didn't even sit in henesys making these friends either. And that would be the best way to get friends early on. Henesys channel 1. So I disagree.

[@techboy95]

@@jessemoe727 I’m just assuming you’re relatively new, but man I wish you had seen what Henesys was like back in the day. Scalia had so many hene hoes, and then there was the wild free market

[@BHolyCow]

Party play zones was my favourite meta, it really encouraged the social aspect of Maple. My most fond memories and memorable friends were made during those times in LHC and Stronghold.

[@imbe.]

I Personally have very fond memories of mosnter carnival, party play and PQ.s. Those were care free, chill times.

[@luismanuelmunozgonzalez9566]

My favorite era would be 133-221-333-123-111 and I think many agree with me.❤️

[@TwoLargePizzas]

Power creep is strong in this game. I remember he days where it takes an entire team to kill King Slime in KPQ.

[@shinraix5041]

What? Lol i remember someone always asking to solo king slime 😂

[@shanmango]

@@shinraix5041 those dexless sins were too OP

[@kenl659]

@@shinraix5041 It was the dexless sins or meso bandits trying to flex on the rest of us.

[@MrFloat777]

@@shinraix5041 it was hilarious watching someone super weak begging to solo ugh

[@ZaddySeeBot]

@@shinraix5041 yo that just brought me way back lol

[@ppouta1216]

Grinding in parties was my favorite time. I nolifed too much so I didn't participate too much in PQs. I don't really play Maple anymore but bossing meta seems like a good development.

[@liteprotoss]

PQ's were definitely one of the best things I ever did in MapleStory, (Played since 2006)

[@ChibiQilin]

You forgot a brief period of time where exp stacking was meta. After family system was released, we also saw the start of hot time events, along with regular event exp coupons, and cash shop coupons. Exp stacking worked a lot differently back then, where everything was multiplicative. 2x hot time * 2x event exp * 2x cash shop (8 hour) * 2x family system (personal) * 1.5x holy symbol * 1.5x family system (party) meant 36x exp. Party Quests dropped off in later lvls, so high lvl players would stack as many multipliers as possible. Shortly after Arans came out, I remember grinding for 16 hours straight at Galloperas with all the buffs saved up. The progress was better than literally weeks of grinding.

[@Roflmao6173]

I remember there was like a 30min 2x event or something and I was grinding at Galloperas and my friend who was a Soul Master, the king of KS back in the day of soul driver, was "trolling" me and KSed me for the entire duration. I was really pissed

[@phabejmuas]

This was exactly how I leveled up from 100 to 121 in one night and got my first 4th job. Lv50 PG mule Bigfoot leech with a server 3x exp event + 2 different 2xp cash shop coupons + hs + 2x coupon + family 1.5x/2x. Saved me weeks if not months of grinding in just one night.

[@sagggoo123]

Old party quest exp grinding will always have such a warm spot in my heart. Party play too. Just made the game so fun, everybody needing to work together to train and so you're all hanging out, finding stuff to kill time and talk with. Made a lotta friends like that.

[@MckaiserDragon]

my fav was the LKC & future henesys group training was around. just being able to hang out with ppl that wanted to lvl up all day everyday was so fun for me. i made 9 lvl 200chars back then. i also loved the pq meta too. anything that makes us party up when we wanted to was amazing to me.

[@LordOibes]

You should make a following video about the history of the BIS gear. I still can't believe things like transposed Tyrant glove was a thing so so expensive and tedious to get

[@reginerdtv]

LHC was my favorite training meta. It was nice having a group of friends to train with.

[@Zunnunn]

Nostalgia hits seeing all these kinds of stuff that happens in the past.

[@kelkiiii]

i really miss lion heart castle. it was awesome to roll up to a map, usually someone would be heading out when you got there so it wasn't too hard to find a party. i'd grind there for hours and chill talking to my pt. it felt good to grind for a while with people around you

[@AnubiSaO]

copper chan stalking tiger in ludibrium when he was the top dog in the maple ranks back in the day, good old days

[@Apoz]

Thanks for the great video, nostalgia is great and it really helped me fill in some gaps in between maple versions / meta's.

[@ahlorachew7726]

The original Sharenian guild quests were one of my favourite experiences back then. Back when the guild quest had jump quests, puzzles, strategy and required real communication and teamwork. It was a thing that was done only with really good friends. The current "guild quest" is just to go in and hit the monster as hard as you can. You don't even need to talk to anybody from your guild now.

[@SkipperLq]

back then u could get stuck in sleepywood for hours trying to get back to henesys just cuz u explored the maps and got lost and found yourself surrounded by evil eyes that u cant damage (pretty sure they were like lvl 50+ back then)

[@DboiUhFoo]

Monster carnival pq from 30-50 and then ludi pq will always be my favorite meta. Followed by jesters, that was a time.

[@MangoTangoFox]

I really liked doing stuff like Ludi PQ and later Monster Carnival. I think something like that could still work for a game, it just needs to be significantly faster so that you'd only redo it for extended periods while making many different characters OR every character needs to be able to just easily switch between all the classes. When you have dozens and dozens of classes, making it so that each one takes MONTHS to level, just doesn't work out.

[@jjh7611]

Nexon : we don’t want you to level too fast but we want you to keep playing. The next meta is the uninstall meta

[@wbw911]

party quest meta was the social media back then haha would be nice to see that being brought back these days

[@TheRealPulverize]

As you showed in your vid the banging meta making a lvl33 HP fighter or page with 10 points into power guard and go skelegons with other low lvls and a bishop....the alts went from 10 to 100 in like 2 hours xD with 2x xp coupon and 2x from family rep.

[@carlsosrs]

How nostalgic I am to see this. when maple was a good game and everything was done as a team

[@NeoKoden]

I think one time, we stayed up till 4 or 5am for a 2x event at LHC. I regret nothing, but I do think of those days fondly

[@SplashAttackTCG]

Leveling back in the day took forever, but it was fun and so rewarding.

[@Atobe112]

Bigfoot meta was my fav. Apples and HS was so nice. Goby map was also the most fun. Got to party with Gaven a lot there (1 of the two people who played tiger)

[@xMortalBlade]

the carnival pq meta was my favorite

[@CommanderArmin]

I really love the pq days, the party training days… I wish that was still a thing. Bossing is fun but i prefer to train with a buddy or two i hate training alone 😭

[@Woelock]

I miss the party play meta. I miss hanging out with everyone in von Leon's castle killing the Crocs.

[@chukles3430]

Not surprising but party play meta certainly my favorite, and seems like many others feel the same. Not only party play zones with mobs of tanky “mini-bosses” like LHC, but even the old standard map grinding in parties. There’s something similarly satisfying about clearing mobs quickly together in separate areas of the map compared to the whole party teaming up to take down a group of LHC mobs. I think the recent 10-100 event map mechanics have potential to bring back some semblance of party meta. Seems the current farming meta is one hitting mobs and clearing maps solo, but if every player’s mobs were “instanced” like these event maps, perhaps players could party up to share buffs, chat while grinding, and have fun together somewhat like the old days without sacrificing their efficiency.

[@RyP2142]

i miss party play meta... can just chill and talk to ppl for hours and become friends

[@thesickandwounded]

OMG the old 3rd job spearman abillity. gosh i miss it so much

[@halinaqi2194]

PQ meta was the most memorable for me, cuz youd actually spend the time between rounds socializing. I honestly think maplestory should encourage party play throughout the entire game, early to late game. Its hard to justify playing with a friend when you'd just solo grind most of the time, it feels more like a single player game. The game actively encourages you to try and solo things, the boss crystals literally lower in value with the more people you have in the party.

[@okaymcfibbers7197]

MP3, Gallos, CWKPQ, KPQ, Monster Carnival, The buses in Malaysia or w/e, Mushroom Castle repeatable boss battle, all classic staples!

[@minilabyrinth]

such good memories training at twisted jesters in haunted mansion

[@TheMapleDaily]

i miss ludi, kerning pq, hene pq, and all the others.. really was a good time to play maplestory because it was played together and everyone was a little nicer it felt like

[@EmJayproductions1]

I really wish party play zones lasted longer it felt so short and it was awesome getting good exp for playing with friends. It’s how this game is meant to be played!

[@gomiko8979]

Imo, preBB was the golden age. Bigbang was such a huge overhaul and a lot of people were not ready for the changes. Also in my own experience, I felt the game losing it's prime when ascension came. When RED was released, it got a nice spike overall just because it was a massive positive change to majority of the players which were explorers. The only thing I see why people still remember this game is because of how important the social aspect of it was back then. We keep remembering the fun we had with the people we met. Hours of playing just to talk which adds to the reason why it took days to weeks just to reach 30 but we didn't care. Every major city in Victoria island had a massive group of players just talking and sharing stories. PQs were beautiful, guilds were like family, and party grinding was extremely fun. Playing now, I only see barely half of what prime henehoing was and they don't even talk.. they just AFK with fancy chairs. I don't hate it I guess but I would love to experience 2006-2015 maplestory again.

[@Gotenks0002]

Hmm....I remember back when I was just an up and coming warrior (2nd job) I had to fight Tauromacis back when you needed dex as a warrior to damage things in the 50/60 level range in order to join a specific guild. Good times....lol

[@JohnnyDahabra]

I remember the days of dexless sins dominating monster carnival and if someone had a Zakum Helmet and specs they were a monster. Now I can start a fresh account and hit level 100 in a few hours. It just doesn't hit the same

[@MAXXvzammy]

crazy old gallopera, mp3, windraiders,roids, skelegons, twisted jesters, cds, spirit vikings/phantom watch, big foot,himes,castle lionheart . grinding on those areas was nice but to me was the channel wars. mayas house hangout. old free market. old servers ( hi from broa). old hidden street website. when tcg codes came out. nlc 60%scroll for gloves for att quest.(i made a lot of accounts XD) legends event aswell as evolve rings, old forest of golem. the multiple accounts created for the hair coupon on amoria xD, and good old hunting ground 1 and pig beach :')

[@Steelilbies]

I loved the party play meta

[@supakitpongsiriwan5361]

I remember selling fame in market channel for 50k meso and thats a lot for me ,i think it’s 12-13 years ago

[@ShieldsHD]

How are you not going to mention monster park MCPQ or the pvp that was in the game for awhile. I never lost in the pvp as a wild hunter spamming my mobbing skull

[@ArchinaGM]

PQ and party grinding were definitely the best times. Maplestory as it is now might as well be an MSORPG instead of an MMORPG. Which sucks because if Nexon tried to bring that style of play back they'd either have to rework nearly 10 years of power/utility creep due to every class being able to clear entire maps solo or to make maps so ridiculously large that the additional utility becomes useless.

[@bradyvilhauer4445]

So I have recently messed with MS again - How do I get into more social / team play? Is grinding even worth it with friends? Or is literally the only team play a few PQ’s late game like he said? I just want to make friends 😅

[@JonLeeNJ]

You forgot the PvP meta where battlemages could use their chain skill to stun everyone and bring other players to them to do massive damage. Ahhh good times as a BM

[@espressivsymbols3220]

Pq meta was my favorite cuz you just party quested til you could.leech xp at LHC

[@carlblim]

Grinding at zombies and selling zhelms at khaini. And oh selling a ch1 fm spot after maintenance!

[@mhazam77]

Pq meta was my childhood best moments 🥹

[@Niko..]

My favorite era was when Phantom Forest and Haunted House was popular

[@hamtaro5439]

literally no one back then play the game just to level

[@CarterJackson]

I miss Party Quests SO MUCH

[@XtiyoonKHX]

great news to people, finally for the daily 200 kills, we get the mega burning booster!

[@TheNewdawn1st]

Bring back PQs, My favorite Era.

[@Ryddle]

4:28 so... so many zakums

[@YaRuskiTV]

Bigfoot meta hands down best meta 👌

[@ericab3919]

You mentioned pq meta and grind meta, but what about the grind in pq meta, where you wouldnt even complete magatia or pirate pq and just farm one of the later stages for exp.

[@dankymayao]

best era was the catfish/henehoe era or when i thought curryishot was read as cureshot cos i was dumb

[@crashoutmarr]

Bring back party quest meta

[@SuchABaka-]

u get money boi

[@crashoutmarr]

@@SuchABaka- no capp

[@wanbatan]

I missed the pq, I'd offer my smuggling services.

[@sc9573]

lhc meta was fun

[@SIowpoke]

Wait wait wait. Nowadays you dont lose exp for dying? Since when?

[@aFujiiBr]

I still have some mesos on my phantom from the suicide kanna age xd

[@aFujiiBr]

maybe its cuz its a phantom T.T

[@shadowhellzx]

I miss Carnival PQ

[@christunstel6954]

I think you mean Devolution ? it's progressively become worse. Also we had mp3 meta, gallopera meta, aliens meta, jesters meta

[@94Motaz94]

what do you mean "took days, maybe weeks to get level 50" bro that took months and years

[@jordanmarks-kern1129]

Scamming people in the Free Market by getting them to press “Y” twice and making them accidentally accept a trade after they were just done showing off all their OP items was my favorite Meta 😢😂

[@Akjohans]

saw some clips from EMS xd

[@alexandernguyen8203]

i rememeber paying people to join and leave for romeo and juliet

[@BIackViper]

Ludi pq was the goat fr

[@BonesOfLife]

Before there was Bitcoin mining... there was the free market, over-night exp leeching trades with guildies, and on top of all that we PAID Maplestory to melt our motherboards. 😂

[@Tampenismall]

Bandit sin meta is super weird

[@Daxterbeer]

Bring back FZ.

[@Naughtylent]

j pq @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

[@XUIW]

After party meta the game has gotten insanely boring. Rip

[@jordanmarks-kern1129]

Big Bang ruined the game imo.

[@joshraczka8006]

I miss monster carnival and party quests ): i just started playing again after like 13 years off, and nobody interacts anymore except to tell you to fuck off when they “own” a room.

[@gobalbucs]

“CC Plz” has always been a thing though lol