Cornell MacNeil & Renata Tebaldi - Ciel! mio padre - Aida - Verdi

[@PBXVIILY]

So super great! Tebaldi MacNeil!

[@mazzone1]

Now this is what great singing is all about. Oh to hear voices like this today.

[@photo161]

As implausible as it may seem, we have changed psychologically and significantly.

[@federic017]

Artisti d'altri tempi purtroppo...Tebaldi-Macneil espressione e canto a livello storico...saluti

[@jeaninemahieu5164]

C'est un régal d'entendre Renata Tebaldi dans le rôle d'Aida, sa voix de velours convient merveilleusement bien à ce rôle !!! C'est la plus grande soprano lyrico-spinto du siècle.

[@TheVaughan5]

The great Cornell MacNeil at his very best (also the glorious Vienna Philharmonic) - such a voice brings tears to my eyes in this the most beautiful duet ever written! Tebaldi was not at her best in this recording but here she gives us some wonderful singing.

[@sirenadellopera]

The best Aida/Amonasro duet ever!! Also the tempi!

[@Orfeus80]

Both Tebaldi and McNeil had ideally balanced chiaroscuro. Here they record together one of Verdi's greatest duets. Tebaldi's Aida is heartbreaking, just hear her pleading. McNeil responds wonderfully and Verdi must be in tears.

[@ER1CwC]

The way Mac sings 'Pensa che un popolo, vinto...' on one breath is absolutely incredible.

[@Orfeus80]

@ER1CwC his expression is also heartbreaking, straziato.. their chemistry is wonderful here. By the way, just wondering if you got my email with the question?

[@SilverSingingMethod]

@ktrum492 Where do you study? The training you need to sing like this is not found in any university.

[@SilverSingingMethod]

@schlosba And scuro or "darkness" doesn't just come from a "mature sound". It is due to an elongation of the vocal track which brings in more darkness. And you cannot just bring in "chiaro" by knowing what hertz range it is in. The chiaro is produced by the acoustical energy given by the "chest" voice...more specifically the thyroarytenoid. So that has to be developed properly.

[@robertwbecker]

Thanks for this marvelous post with these great singers. Also thanks for the Tebaldi quote! She's right, mosquitoes,,, I love it!

[@adolfoa1961]

@sirenadellopera For me this is the best Aida opera recording

[@SilverSingingMethod]

@schlosba Are you really trying to "teach" me what chiaroscuro is? LOL! Thanks, but I am well aware of what it is...and it most certainly IS and old school concept. Even old painters and visual artists used the term. Voice teachers now may use the term, but he singers sure as heck don't sound like they used to.

[@paullewis2413]

The greatest duet in all opera. Wonderful singing/conducting/playing from this legendary recording. However my favourite has to be Price/Merrill/Solti from the 1961 recording.

[@deanrantz1112]

I did not know he was also a (Hobby) Woodworker. Bravo!

[@oliverdelica2289]

That is so cool. Two of my hobbies colliding 😍😍😍

[@SilverSingingMethod]

Agreed. And I already got that point! LOL! He was amazing.

[@SilverSingingMethod]

@ktrum492 Well, I am going to be honest, there are very few people in the world that can teach this kind of singing. So you need to go wherever you can to get it if it is your true passion.

[@SilverSingingMethod]

@angeloMarcucci Chiaro means clear or "bright". And scuro means "dark". Great voices are dark and ringing clear.

[@SilverSingingMethod]

@angeloMarcucci Exactly. That is old school. That is lost today.

[@SilverSingingMethod]

@mazzone1 I am working on it!! They are out there, they just need the training.

[@SilverSingingMethod]

@angeloMarcucci And it is because the teachers have no clue what they are doing.

[@robertwbecker]

Yeah, this is MacNeil at his Jaw Dropping best,,,,, what a force of Nature this voice was,, Tebaldi isn't too bad in this either,,,,,,

[@aarondimoff5180]

I think the only reason balanced Chiaro-scuro voices are rare today, is because singers are looking/taught to look in the wrong place for the oscuro. They're looking in the mouth, or back of the throat, instead of DEEP down in the body for it. Nowadays, either the entire voice is swallowed, searching for oscuro, or pressed up against the mask looking for chiaro. Chiaro is small, at the front, parlando, clear pure vowels. Oscuro is deep down in the body, below the larynx, opening from the pharynx downward, not backward or sideways.

[@SilverSingingMethod]

Actually our biggest resonator is the pharyngeal cavity which is in the mouth in the back under the soft palette etc. And MacNeil said to sing back there on a streaming column of air. It really has nothing to do with back or forward or up and down as far as try to place a sound. The sound is dark when the larynx is low and the pharyngeal space is open. The sound has chiaro when the chest has proper produces harmonics and they are resonated properly in the pharyngeal space. That is how it works.

[@schlosba]

@MrCafiero Ciaroscuro is not an old school concept. It is still used by many voice teachers today who teach real singing. The term refers to when you achieve proper balance. One wants the squillo of a bright tone, allowing it to cut over an orchestra, while still maintaining the darkness that comes with a mature sound. This is achieved in the throat by properly emphasizing the harmonics that fall within the singer's formant (between 2800 hertz and 3200 hertz) depending on the voice type

[@robertwbecker]

As did MacNeil!

[@SilverSingingMethod]

@TheValdoro He does breathe before straziato, but still.....up to there in one breath is amazing!

[@luigicorvi1661]

THE POINT I WAS MAKING ....IN SINGING THE WHOLE PHRASE INCLUDING THE HIGH NOTE ON..VINTO....GAVE THE WORD STRAZIATO IT'S FULL MEANING AND DRAMATIC IMPACT WHEN HE TOOK THAT BREATH.....IT WAS MOST DRAMATIC......THE CULMINATION OF THE LONG LINE...THERE HE IS...DESPARATE FOR A BREATH......AND DESPERATE IN SITUATION TO CONVINCE HER... ..FOR ME THIS IS A PEERLESS MOMMENT IN THE BARITONE ANNALS.