Cornhole Is Broken - Here’s How to Fix It

[@CrimzinShadow9]

Great video Mike Agree ACL needs to either remove a step over, or strongly enforce it For the casual viewer, and to draw more interest, removing it entirely makes more sense. It’s just difficult trying to justify why there’s a line that you’re allowed to step over under certain conditions Thank you for addressing boards. That complaint drives me nuts. There’s very few things in the game that you have to adjust to. Suffering board conditions, to me, are what really keep the game interesting with how quickly people adjust Thanks for another great video

[@CrimzinShadow9]

Differing board conditions*

[@Mark-ww7gr]

I think this was your best video to date. Absolutely agree with several of your points especially surrounding the need for tiers in ACO and better support for bag makers in ACL. I am a bit of a bag junkie and am constantly wondering what bags are being thrown. Seems like announcers would do a bit of homework instead of rambling on about topics not pertaining to Cornhole!

[@th3chapmeister_386]

Very good point’s made in this videos! Especially knowing what bags people are throwing on stream.

[@ghostofthepines084]

Love this video but idk about the skin thing I might have to play it to see

[@Anthony-Everett33]

Novice 10$ 90-100% payout Intermediate $20 75-80% payout + qualification for top 5-10 player to play in the advance division

[@MikesBags]

I'm not sure what league you are referencing here. The ACL only pays out about 60% at opens and the ACO is less than that.

[@Patkerman]

International distribution of cornhole: Here in Germany more and more people are playing cornhole, but there could be a lot more. Let's not think about the shipping costs and taxes for importing at the moment. It's really difficult to buy decent cornhole equipment in Germany. Unfortunately, many bag manufacturers do not want to ship internationally. I emailed a few and asked about shipping costs to Europe - not offered! Wickedwood Games in the Netherlands offers a few and the other way out is to order on Ebay or Amazon USA. Luckily there are WickedWood Games in the Netherlands, so I can at least get a small selection there. Love this game!

[@SWBAGCO]

I'll ship internationally!!

[@Patkerman]

@@SWBAGCO You got Email! Thx

[@bbearc3552]

Most people don’t realize the cost of renting out these convention centers, I also heard they are charging or thinking about charging for insurance. I don’t know if that’s true I don’t know if the entry fees are covering the cost of the convention centers going up each year

[@Anthony-Everett33]

I would like to see a tournament 10 best from aco vs acl even throw TCL in

[@MikesBags]

That would be awesome to watch but it would never happen.

[@zman3355]

Great content Mike. I hope someone from the ACL and ACO picks up on some of these suggestions. Thanks!

[@soklyvann3030]

It's amazing to me that pros can't adjust well to board conditions. 😂 The board conditions changes every time I play.

[@MrLordkruk]

I love the sound of the skins games.

[@kiasiong3330]

Can you do a video on overview/tips/tricks for scoreholio

[@MikesBags]

This is on my list of future videos. Scoreholio has some how to videos on KZbin already but I am thinking about making my own video at some point.

[@ManningOWNsTeboww]

@@MikesBagsthat’d be great, yes please!

[@The_Patriotic_Prepper]

Why can’t we just go throw bags and have a good time without drama?

[@soklyvann3030]

Because PEOPLE are involved. Somebody will complain about something, that's human nature. I've participated in competitive sports my whole life and find that people in cornhole are extra dramatic. It's probably because there's money involved.

[@jdmmarcelo10]

Simple because money

[@ghostofthepines084]

You can just do Scoreholio tournaments

[@gavinhoward3883]

Awesome video! The ACO is sort of trying to get those 4 key events I feel like with their “super majors”. But I completely agree with you to do it like a golf format it would be awesome!

[@americanpride75]

Better payout for pro not for non pros

[@MikesBags]

The ACL has better payouts for both pro and non pro players.

[@ICheat_ILie_ISteal]

So why won't these companies remove the stamp? What's the point of having stamps bags? Are bag companies sponsoring these leagues? I watched the ACL world and damn every players has that ultra logo on their shirts... LoL ultra probably sponsored 75% of the players huh?

[@bosssho3096]

You can't play in an ACL League match without current stamp approved bags...

[@thecaliforniamaniac]

Does anybody know what the payout are for the ACL? What does first second and third place?

[@HelloHello-yb1rl]

I believe I read somewhere that the average ACL pro was making about 18k/year from payouts. Most pros are entirely reliant on sponsors to get them moved about the country to play in the tournaments. It's really about the size of the sport right, pro ping pong players don't make much either.

[@cypressranger2567]

Depends on the division, participation, and event fee

[@thecaliforniamaniac]

@@cypressranger2567 do you have any examples . 💰💰💰

[@MikesBags]

The payouts vary depending on how many players sign up. Here's an example from the Las Vegas Open. Payouts in singles for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd were $1400, $900, $600. Payouts in doubles were $3000, $1800, $1000. The ACL does pay out a lot more than the top 3 places and they pay out for each tier/division. That's one reason why the top spots don't pay as much.

[@thecaliforniamaniac]

@@MikesBags awesome, thanks for getting back Mike!

[@ca40946]

Why are bag companies leaving the ACL? Do they promote something that these companies don’t agree with?

[@NateSalzy]

Control over your own company is a big reason from what I've seen thus far.

[@KAP814]

@@NateSalzy that and how much money the ACL wants. Also, didn’t BG buy the ACL? Seems like a conflict of interest. idk. Rumors of over priced stamped boards for any events that allow ACL points. Local spots are just not going to be able to afford that, it’s just taking away the fun aspect of the game. Just my opinion, though.

[@chickendlablo6502]

Watch CornholeBagReviews ‘22 podcast - ACL vs ACO Stamp, New ACL Rules, Bag Regulations // F&4B - Episode 27 Corbin and Eddie from SubZero detail the differences between bag levels in the ACL. Rec/Comp/Pro all dictate differing minimum production capacities and availabilities etc. as well as how much each bag producer must pay ACL for the privilege of stamping their bags with ACL logos. Given the large number of smaller bag producers that have flooded the market since the podcast the ACL has made even more demands from those that carry the stamp.

[@NateSalzy]

​@KAP814 they demand a lot, but there certainly is a give and take.

[@MichaelPhillips-l1b]

Was really hoping you would talk about the actual game being broken. The game is way too easy. There are way too many players that play at an elite level. It gets boring watching every round be 12-10 or 12-12. The game needs to be backed up or made more difficult somehow.