I seriously think this has to be one of the strongest and finest performance by an actress I've ever seen on screen-absolutely Oscar winning acting here from Suranne.
@shanefolan7 жыл бұрын
i can see why suranne jones wanted to leave at the end, her character was very intense so i can only imagine how exhausted she must have felt by the time she left especially in emotional scenes like this.
@markmorris7123 Жыл бұрын
Exhausted?? Try working 8 hours a day on a building sute
@shanefolan Жыл бұрын
@@markmorris7123 I do work in building sites and often work 7.30 to 5.30 or 7 to 6. I'm not comparing jobs though. I'm saying acting very intense scenes like Suranne had so many of would certainly be an exhausting task amid having to learn huge amounts of dialogue. Mike Reid [Frank from Eastenders] had to leave it in the 90s as he was doing a depression story amid his character's decline into a mental breakdown. Playing such intense scenes had an effect of Reid's own mental health and he had to be written out as he himself started suffering depression. Bill Treacher [ Arthur Fowler] said he too was playing a depression storyline and it affected his mental health and he'd go home in the evenings and cry some nights it was so draining on him and left him mentally exhausted. Furthermore, Michelle Ryan [Zoe Slater] had to be written out of Eastenders for several months in 2002 under doctors orders she admitted because it was during the era when the Slaters were heavily featured and she was playing very intense scenes and it began to affect her mental health and left her exhausted. Rowena Wallace who played Pat the Rat in Sons and Daughters said the same. Her character was a drunk and drug addict and Wallace said she was doing so many emotionally heavy scenes that it left her exhausted and she had to leave in the end. I've never acted myself but I can imagine if you were playing heavy emotional scenes day after day over a long term storyline arc it definitely would spill into your own life. You can't just switch it off. It stays with you.
@lukemaccallum3150 Жыл бұрын
@@markmorris7123 Site. You mean building SITE
@aprilfisher49479 ай бұрын
Suranne Jones probably had other roles lined up as she did alot of stuff after corrie and still does.
@CarlD215 жыл бұрын
These scenes are superb. I wish they gave Simon Gregson more dramatic material. It also reinforces that in spite of the claims of Corrie being about comedy and EE being about drama, that Corrie, when it tries, can produce some absolutely fantastic drama. It's made more real because the characters are not in constant misery.
@AmeliaCharlotte12127 жыл бұрын
She's such a brilliant actress😌❤️.
@kaysmith89923 жыл бұрын
I wish she had still been around when Becky and Carla came along... Becky for the affair with Steve, and Carla as factory boss.
@angelasmithson52913 жыл бұрын
'I DON'T WANT YOUR CHRISTMAS PRESEEENNNTTSSS!!'! 😅😅😅🎅
@penresistance9525 күн бұрын
I know Karen messed up royally by having Steve and Tracy think she killed Amy but her situation with Steve was incredibly toxic and I'm not surprised it pushed her over the edge. Steve cheated on her repeatedly. He can bring up Joe Carter all he wants. Karen wasn't even casually with him until after Steve cheated on her the first time around. What did he expect? He even told Karen that cheating on her was "revenge" because he assumed she slept with Carter when she didn't. Dude can't play by his own rules, clearly. As for him having a relationship with Amy: ultimately, Tracy was the problem here. There was a whole lot of Tracy making fun of Karen for not being able to have a child of her own but there was never any hint of Steve defending his wife from these taunts. He just repeatedly made out that Karen was being irrational because he was too much of a doormat to realize that having access to his daughter did not mean he had to keep Tracy in the picture. He brings up Fathers4Justice and yet he didn't go within a mile of any courthouse to argue that Tracy hanging over his life like she did in exchange for him having a relationship with his daughter was bad for his marriage. And his wife's mental state. And then Karen had a miscarriage, which is a traumatic thing for any woman to go through. Never mind one who has to deal with her husband's mistress tormenting her and flaunting their lovechild in her face. Thus, she snapped. Granted, Amy shouldn't have been involved in her meltdown but Tracy also shouldn't have used Karen's infidelity as the butt of her jokes. If Steve had been smart enough to put two and two together, he would've realized that this is why Karen's miscarriage was so devastating to her personally but hey: this is why he runs a cab company for a living. End essay.
@victoriajames133510 ай бұрын
Great actress. Went on to bigger and definitely better things.
@PrincessofPower847 ай бұрын
The TARDIS!
@kell903 жыл бұрын
I can understand Karen's frustration and breakdown as Tracy cruelly taunted Karen by calling her "Barren Karen" because she couldn't conceive which is so cruel and lorded it with the pram at Karen rubbing her nose in it , yes Steve shouldn't of cheated on her , he should of had access to Amy but without Tracy there so Karen might of had chance to bond with Amy and Tracy couldn't of tormented Karen then, but Steve taking Tracy's side in the end must of been the ultimate punch in the gut for Karen, I felt sorry for Karen in the end.
@shanefolan12 жыл бұрын
yes it is...'NO IT ISN'T' -best line ever
@007beck97 ай бұрын
"Men of being climbing cranes dressed as Batman" 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@BubblyJubbly3 жыл бұрын
7:18 Probably Simon Gregson’s best performance in Corrie history.
@allisonladage5703 Жыл бұрын
I agree. He’s amazing in this scene.
@AlbieGray12 жыл бұрын
Karen's breakdown is harrowing, but Steve was right on this one. Even pretending to kill his daughter, Amy, was something that he couldn't overlook. Amy is his daughter, and Karen only sabotaged her own marriage by insisting that he deny Amy.
@kell903 жыл бұрын
Steve shouldn't of slept about
@cabahab29962 жыл бұрын
@@kell90 true think he drove her half nuts ......
@ymarw16842 жыл бұрын
@@kell90 they were split up when Amy was conceived and Karen had cheated on him with Joe Carter before this.
@kell902 жыл бұрын
@Y Marw I know it's only a soap but they both as bad as each other then
@JustinBamber11 ай бұрын
Your wrong
@JamesMc-pj1hx3 ай бұрын
The way he shouts " no it isn't" was a brilliant delivery by simon gregson. He totally matched suranne there in her performance.
@u.k.trainandbusvids3 жыл бұрын
Karen went way too far she provoked Tracy too far even provoking Steve glad he chucked her out if Karen did that to me and made me think I lost my daughter I would divorce her and send her to somewhere she hates to start a new life
@jaredporikos21973 жыл бұрын
Team Karen
@sophiestrong45057 ай бұрын
Steves an idiot who only thinks with his c0¢k so I'm glad she left him. She deserved alot better than him
@shanefolan11 жыл бұрын
The irony was that Karen's jealously and anger were for nothing, it all stemmed from fear of tracey stealing steve but truth is that steve never felt anything for her.There was no threat there.
@shanefolan4 жыл бұрын
@Abbie Hazel Florence Hunter yea because the writers exhausted Steve's repetitive story line of drifting from 1 woman to the next so paired him with Tracey as there was nothing else to do with him rather than find him another woman. For much of 2005 though after Karen left, Steve repeatedly rejected Tracey's advances though until she got bored and finally moved on. If somebody better came along though Steve wouldn't think twice about abandoning her.
@msmilano70914 жыл бұрын
Shane Folan Tracy and Steve are actually good together though.
@jaredporikos21974 жыл бұрын
@@msmilano7091 with those pathetic schemes ?
@kaysmith89923 жыл бұрын
@@jaredporikos2197 for all her bravado I think Tracy has always genuinely liked Steve. And Amy has knocked a bit more sense into Tracy over the years.
@jaredporikos21973 жыл бұрын
@@kaysmith8992 Yes that's true ! I like how Amy was like this bitch , my mom is gonna learn
@davidfearis73355 жыл бұрын
Well you've absolutely ruined that Christmas Tree!!!
@PrincessofPower843 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Ospyro3em6 ай бұрын
I feel like i'm in the minority, but I never cared much for Karen- her facial expression seemed to be a permanent sneer and she was very volatile, even before all this. Regardless, the acting here was superb
@msmilano70914 жыл бұрын
I actually hated Karen in this Episode. Not once did she think about Steve's feelings. It was all about her. She tried to cut both Amy and Liz out of Steve's life shortly after she and Steve got married. She wasn't that great a character
@rachelburns626711 жыл бұрын
What Karen did was despicable , though .... The poor woman was pushed to the brink ! The whole of her marriage and relationship with Steve , Karen has had to endure the wrath that is Tracy Barlow ! Yes .. she was needy and selfish though every step of the way , Tracy has been there , causing trouble , trying to ruin Karen and Steve's marriage ! Fast forward the end of this marriage and Tracy is still causing havoc in Steve's relationships ...
@mattylamb91945 жыл бұрын
Tracy did cause Karen to become absolutely insane with jealousy, with her constant jibes and manipulations. Didn;t mean she got her man, (at the time), but she succeeded in destroying Karen really
@natalievitale13713 жыл бұрын
Karen should have been the better person and rose above it and let Steve be a dad which she could see deep down but she choice to try ignore it. She destroyed herself just as much
@natalievitale13713 жыл бұрын
She had her chances to walk when she found out Steve was Amy's dad. She cant have it all her own way and expect eternal roses
@jaredporikos21973 жыл бұрын
@@natalievitale1371 I loved that Karen did that Tracy , Tracy had it coming
@stopbullyingta416210 жыл бұрын
he's so unsympathetic and doesn't care about karen.
@shanefolan10 жыл бұрын
no Karen was in the wrong here, steve stood by her for months but karen wouldn't trust him and drove him away- she destroyed her marriage herself with her paranoia and obsession over tracey who steve would never have looked at twice.
@davidfearis73355 жыл бұрын
Well his father is Jim McDonald what do you expect
@emmadavies98985 жыл бұрын
It's all Tracy doing this Tracy did this to Becky I think steve is bad man Steve in the wrong not Karen poor Karen
@emmadavies98985 жыл бұрын
Don't go with Steve because Tracy cause trouble for you I don't like Steve any way
@jaredporikos21974 жыл бұрын
@@emmadavies9898 I hate him to
@PrincessofPower8410 жыл бұрын
Ohhh, Karen. How I miss her! I swear, Suranne Jones and Sally Lindsay were among my first girl crushes. So ironic they're now on the same show (good one btw, I first laid eyes on it while on vacation in Niagara Falls last fall.)
@Laceychisholm9 ай бұрын
7:18 After Karen said “I thought u weren’t gonna shout at me” what did u think he was going to do u shouted at him 😅😅😅
@darrenpimlott47038 жыл бұрын
Suranne Jones went to my college in Oldham
@christinefougere14448 жыл бұрын
So much of this storyline was repeated with Becky.
@davidfearis73355 жыл бұрын
And its repeating with Michelle
@jaredporikos21974 жыл бұрын
@Ak Am I would hope they would have teamed up though , and Michelle that why they could destory steves life
@tracygrant79313 жыл бұрын
Becky was a cool character though
@jaredporikos21973 жыл бұрын
@@tracygrant7931 yyyyyyyaaaasss
@lukemaccallum3150 Жыл бұрын
Very true. Big similarities between Karen and Becky. Becky is from the same part of South Yorkshire as me, a small old mining town called Barnsley
@TheDudezer12 жыл бұрын
how would u like to be their next door neighbors?
@littlemixfan7563 жыл бұрын
She’s needs to come back
@shanefolan9175 Жыл бұрын
as much chance of Suranne Jones coming back than there is of Paris Hilton winning an Oscar.
@AlbieGray11 жыл бұрын
You got that right. With Corrie more lighthearted and EE more dramatic, when it happens, Corrie comes up with some pretty impressive drama as well!
@stemple111008 жыл бұрын
never really got all the sympathy people had for karen tbh from what i saw she was just a selfish materialistic gobby cow who thought she had the right to control everything around her, as much as i dislike tracy i was rooting for her over karen during the majority of this story
@mattylamb91945 жыл бұрын
I think Karen and Steve actually got married for a bet, if I remember
@jaredporikos21974 жыл бұрын
stemple 11100 , Team Karen
@dawnfinch2836 Жыл бұрын
Suranne Jones brilliant actress
@aoifekennedy9004 Жыл бұрын
Sorry can someone explain to me what the description means what does it mean “Kill Amy” ?
@sunsetexplorer63936 Жыл бұрын
Tracy was going to spend Christmas with Peter, but left Amy in the car to quickly get something. Karen took that opportunity to steal the car and set fire to it, letting Tracy and Steve assume she’d done it with her inside and killed her, when actually Karen just wanted to torch the car, but when she discovered Amy was there, she torched it but then secretly took her to Roy.
@aoifekennedy9004 Жыл бұрын
@@sunsetexplorer63936I know now but thank you for explaining it to me 😊
@BenKellyMusic928 ай бұрын
I've never known a more self-centred narcissistic female character in Corrie than Karen McDonald. Nearly every other sentence out of her mouth was about herself, and most of her actions were self-serving. Liz was right. All she wanted to be perceived as was Queen of the Flamin' May rather than the brawling gobby slapper she really was. Steve will forever be better off without her 🎉
@gadfageyar3 жыл бұрын
I remember this. I hated Tracey at the time, but I was 100%with her on trying to kill Karen for this!
@kaysmith89923 жыл бұрын
Steve MacDonald is a Corrie treasure and should never be allowed to leave Weatherfield. He and Peter Barlow just steal every scene for me.
@AlbieGray12 жыл бұрын
In a lot of ways, Karen is really striking a lot of attitude here. She claims that Steve didn't suffer when she lost her baby, and so justifies what she did by pretending to kill Steve's baby with Tracy. A more selfish person there never was. Tracy was evil, I grant you that, but not even SHE deserved what she got from Karen. And all because Karen wanted her to suffer! Karen was selfish here, and Steve was right in driving her out of his house and life for good!
@mattylamb91945 жыл бұрын
Karen could be selfish and aggressive, but I liked her directness and loyalty. Tracy destroyed her basically.
@shanefolan4 жыл бұрын
@@mattylamb9194 no Karen destroyed Karen, her insecurity ruined her.
@jaredporikos21974 жыл бұрын
@@shanefolan Team Karen
@jaredporikos21973 жыл бұрын
@@shanefolan Tracy was asking for that anyway
@davidfearis73355 жыл бұрын
9:10-9:25 TEMPER TEMPER
@andrewjamesfoley38255 жыл бұрын
Haha
@saanzacs3 жыл бұрын
"You finished?"
@emmadavies98985 жыл бұрын
Tracy evil to Karen
@TheJoker2778014 жыл бұрын
I miss Karen.
@maxwelljohnson50285 жыл бұрын
TheJoker27780 she was a mean mean person
@jaredporikos21974 жыл бұрын
@@maxwelljohnson5028 team Karen
@carmelrea352 Жыл бұрын
Suranne a great actress.
@AlexGarrickActress4 жыл бұрын
wonder what ever happened to this actress, I hope she's doing well ;)
@natalievitale13713 жыл бұрын
Shes been in loads of stuff.. Doctor Foster and Gentlemen Jack just to name a few ..they're recent programmes to and both very good
@AlexGarrickActress3 жыл бұрын
@@natalievitale1371 lol sorry i was being sarcastic as shes obviously really successfull
@natalievitale13713 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 fair play
@shanefolan3 жыл бұрын
@@AlexGarrickActress Ha sarcasm doesn't always translate well on paper as it's hard to sense the tone.
@davidfearis73355 жыл бұрын
Is it Karen leaving Steve or Steve throwing Karen out?
@ymarw16845 жыл бұрын
Steve chucked her out and Karen accepted that their marriage was over and left.
@daltenkeeping94883 жыл бұрын
Peter needs to come over Karen,s see what is going on Karen had a argument with Tracy and Amy that Karen kidnapping Amy why Karen drop off Amy to Roy and Haley why Karen what you done to Amy and Tracy what did Tracy done Karen had a argument over Steve and Liz and putting drugs in Karen husband vickum Peter need to punch Karen what she done
@suesmith37445 ай бұрын
Love Suranne Jones
@ysgol3 Жыл бұрын
I always loathed barren Karen. I liked Steve when he was plausible though, not the gurning caricature he's been for years.
@Christianna73 Жыл бұрын
Miss you Karen
@imransesay58693 жыл бұрын
That not fair Steve cheated on her
@ymarw16842 жыл бұрын
She cheated on Steve first with Joe Carter, and Amy was conceived when Steve and Karen were split up.
@shanefolan9175 Жыл бұрын
@@ymarw1684 no steve had the one night stand with the girl and she left him for Joe. In fairness, she told Steve she wouldn't cheat on her marriage and she didn't.
@scarlettthebrave58547 ай бұрын
Simon gregson is all comedy lines now on Corrie. It’s a waste of his talent