Shout out for the Super Thanks! Thank you so much!! 😊
@MichelleDeCastro3 жыл бұрын
VERY HELPFUL!!! I was told completely wrong for years... I always heard that the 45-degree angle was the "correct" one to use. The reason they said was that a 90-degree angle would put MORE resistance on the needle due to the skin tension, and the 45-degree angle would lessen that tension and resistance, making it easier to penetrate. However, I always noticed I got way better color-packing and solid lines when I would tattoo at a 90-degree angle, but I just thought I was doing it "wrong." It also felt more natural to do it at a 90-degree angle, and I was INCORRECTLY training my hand to tattoo at the 45-degree angle all the time. I'm so glad you cleared this problem up, as I'm sure I'm not the only one who has been misled by the wrong information. Thank you so much!
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome feedback! I’m glad you’ve cleared it up. It sounds like you already worked it out on your own anyway. Thanks for watching!
@itta-pupu23 жыл бұрын
Yeah I started lining at 90⁰ last year and it's made a huge difference, now I dont have blowouts anymore
@el_digge2 жыл бұрын
I always heard 90 for lining and 45 for shading
@stefanoferuglio70505 ай бұрын
Finalmente,erano anni che pensavo di sbagliare invece.👍👍
@tattoosbyrodo3 жыл бұрын
Glad there are people willing to show others how to learn to tattoo better. Your videos have helped me improve greatly. I've not even been tattoing 6 monthd yet and have accomplished more than I ever thought possible.
@D4NTH3M4N1003 жыл бұрын
I’m learning as well. “Art something”is also a great tutorial page. As well as “Oliver Ayre” but he’s more about portraits and advanced techniques. I have been learning for 3 months so far. I did a big tattoo on my thigh, it actually turned out great and taught me so much.
@martinwall72973 жыл бұрын
been in this biz over 45 years. & you are correct. it was sometimes thought that tattooing at an angle would cover or deposit more ink at a given area, thus speeding up the tattoo time per design. needle throw & ink consistency, along with power is also a great factor. The bottom line is if you want to give a great tattoo take your time and take everything into account. from hygiene to guality equipment & components. TKS.
@andyhowden76553 жыл бұрын
When you wanna love a video rather than just like a video. Perfect timing for my journey 👌thanks mate
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Good luck with your journey!!
@ruffrydaz3133 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts!
@chillinatmyhouse3 жыл бұрын
Your videos have honestly taught me more than any of my local artists could have! Thanks for everything!! I'll always be around to watch more!
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I really appreciate that!
@TheNatashaNinjason2 жыл бұрын
I think you may very well be the friendliest tattoo artist I've ever come across! So refreshing! Lol... not to mention the knowledge sharing!!! 🤘💀❤️🔥
@JonoSmithTattoo2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I really appreciate that. Thanks for watching!
@DavidBakerGolf Жыл бұрын
Well the thing is 90 degree will give you ink bleeds from the tube, and 45 degree gives you a better 3 point stretch, i dont believe that 90 degree has as much benefits as 45
@kimcaliber90122 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video! I have a small tattoo gun at home for basic color touchups, and I'd always try holding it at an angle and had so much trouble every single time. I just tried the 90 degree angle method and it went so smoothly! Thank you thank you!
@solvated_photon5 күн бұрын
This helped me. Thanks 🙏
@nicroams2 жыл бұрын
Super helpful! No fluff. Just straight to it 🤟🏼
@JonoSmithTattoo2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@bkroh68813 жыл бұрын
yes thank you for all your knowledge that you share with us you make it so easy to understand things that confuse me before when you explain it it's just like oh that's so simple thank you so much please keep it up I can't wait to see your next video
@lucy24237 ай бұрын
Oh my God! Finally someone answered my question!!!!! Thank you!
@OhJennifer202 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on ways to hold both coil and pen style tattoo machines? Thank you.
@kaylagreenawalt7940 Жыл бұрын
This is great Jono! I had no idea - and heard a LOT of false information. So appreciate the detailed descriptions!
@darreneffle48913 жыл бұрын
Although i will admit i have angled some but more with a lower volt and shading. Excellent points. Thank you
@judytawidlinska26103 жыл бұрын
I had a violent laugh attack 🤣😂🤣😂 the machine has to allign with Saturn eclipsing with belzebubs baby orange named Merlin 😜. You deserve "❤" reaction not "👍"
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
🤣 awww thanks! Glad you liked it!
@LTV232 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS! I feel so much more comfortable at 90 but thought I was wrong so I was trying to train myself at a 45 but now I know that I was correct (:
@reecedrawz2 жыл бұрын
I'm mostly at 90 degrees.. I think tattooing at 45 degrees could be quite uncomfortable. Just get that grip tape on and 90 degrees will be easy and comfortable
@curtiscarlson8958 Жыл бұрын
Good Job! That subject was not only correct but it was acceptable!
@orenzavadi8664 Жыл бұрын
Dear jono , thanks so much for the explanation your channel is a huge source of inspiration. When lining with shader i experience hardships with the 90 degree method , is a slight less then 90 is optimal as well?
@mattraymond2807 Жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the info. You have been very helpful
@JonoSmithTattoo Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@christophertullis36883 жыл бұрын
Hi Jono thanks for the awesome videos! I have a question regarding this video. I agree that either angle works depending on the situation but I expected the answer to be the other way around, 45° correct 90° acceptable. I've been told that 45° is correct because contrary to popular opinion, a tattoo needle does not "deposit " ink into the skin. Instead, the needle enters the skin and creates a hole. When the needle exits the skin a vacuum is formed which pulls the ink on the surface of the skin into the hole. If this scenario is correct a 45° angle creates a larger elliptical hole than the circular hole of a 90° angle and therefore achieves greater saturation. Is this information incorrect? Thanks again!!
@hacedms3 жыл бұрын
Very good point, many people say that 90 degrees will not deposit any ink or will give you a very light lines.
@christophertullis36883 жыл бұрын
@@hacedms i know for a fact that 90° can result in nice clean fully saturated lines :)
@tonyhoney37972 жыл бұрын
This helps so much!!! Thanks Jono!!!
@JonoSmithTattoo2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@estevanramirez Жыл бұрын
I’m a year late from when this video dropped but I always assumed 45 was the correct way. Definitely going to have to try the 90 degree form now on
@josec4392 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’ve notice when I run a 45 angle the lines come out way thicker and the tattoo doesn’t look that clean. This helps out a lot
@bjj21 Жыл бұрын
Is this the same for shading and color packing? Never seen anyone hold it at 90° other than lining. It does seem though holding it at an angle with a mag, the top row wouldn't go in as deep as the row of needles closest to the skin
@nataliacazares11923 жыл бұрын
Jono, you rock!!! Thank you so much, love your videos. 🥰
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@CinematicHype3 жыл бұрын
Very informative!! I really enjoyed this video. You have a new sub 💯
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Welcome to the channel!
@AlexandrosNikolakis8 ай бұрын
Perfect video!!But please tell me what angle should i use for shading? I have tried at 90 degrees and didnt work as well as i would like it too...i have seen that tilting the machine back would shade faster and smoother..
@brianwilliams37963 ай бұрын
I was taught to hold it around 75 degrees. Never at 90 degrees.
@impact2633 жыл бұрын
by watching your video, i do self tattooing. thanks a lot. always here.. from Cebu City Philippines
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching! 🇵🇭
@ako76933 жыл бұрын
Yo from the Phils here too!
@MRJDOG065 ай бұрын
I'm having trouble holding the machine at a 90 degree angle. I don't know if it's the machine itself or what but 45 feels more natural.
@lynn_ferenc Жыл бұрын
Love your videos and animation so creative
@JonoSmithTattoo Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I really appreciate that.
@luast75943 жыл бұрын
Your videos are the best..!!
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@g_dub3 жыл бұрын
How about a pro/con video of using Lidocaine cream/gel
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
I’ll put that on my list, thanks for the suggestion!
@TheNdoki2 жыл бұрын
But does that still apply to non-coil machines, like pen style?
@user-en3uo5fl1g2 жыл бұрын
what about 60 degrees? i have also heard about that so you can deposit the ink correctly without hurting the skin and getting tired easily. is this correct?
@SilverSpoonKK2 жыл бұрын
so helpful!
@pauladr.o87652 жыл бұрын
Jono 😭 I love you
@AndrueSOCAL3 ай бұрын
Awsome
@stylzsp29492 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much I'm a new subscriber. Do I angle to the side or angle the tattoo machine with the line of the tattoo? Should it be slanted to the side of my line or slanted with my line? Please explain
@alysmarcus77472 жыл бұрын
thankyou thankyou thankyou - i just got some new ink, didn't know if it was too thin or what - ending up 'skimming' my arm with no 'result' just a sore scratched arm now. Why because in the last year someone told me to change to a 45 angle (do they want us to fail ? - Thankyou Jono
@tattoo50333 жыл бұрын
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@bjj21 Жыл бұрын
I've heard you must angle with packing color. Which to me, using a mag needle makes no sense unless one row of needles is longer than the other. So, are you saying with any type and any situation, 90° is always the best??? This would make a lot more sense to me if true. Thanks
@24wanye2 жыл бұрын
I'm really struggling to get clean lines with a 14rl.. have to pass 2 and 3 times to correct it.. I think it's my angling mixed with my fear of going too deep.. this video is super helpful thank you so much..
@JonoSmithTattoo2 жыл бұрын
My next upload should really help you out as it covers everything to pull nice strong lines. Keep a look out for it soon. Thanks for watching!
@Ray_theyoung6 ай бұрын
You have go have the machine more upright for a bigger needle grouping so it doesnt cause alot of trauma
@catherine12312 жыл бұрын
I'm an apprentice and my mentors/other artists around kept insisting that 45 is better, but I'm much more confident and comfortable at 90 lol thanks for the validation!
@JonoSmithTattoo2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad the channel is helping you out. Thanks for watching!
@davoldfield31783 жыл бұрын
Spot on again!
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
Thanks mate!
@kevinrivera4875 Жыл бұрын
What about 75 degrees?
@nukkawhat420 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@LemonmilkMusic3 жыл бұрын
I think your video covers some basic aspects of this subject. However there is a LOT of reasons this is nuanced. I will add my insights if I may Needle angle can a give many different results. The corner or a 13 flat mag at a 45 or greater angle can be used by the skilled artist to the same result as a single needle or smaller grouping. Where this same scenario at 90 would result in 2 rows of needles leaving 2 distinct lines, and no visibility of where the needles are (not a good look unless it’s intentional. ). Running a machine soft at 45° angle will allow the single row of the magnum to penetrate far easier into the skin than it would if it was at 90° as one person commented this is what hey were taught. Going straight into the skin would have more resistance and increasingly so as needle grouping size increases. it’s simply a matter of physics. For example ..a 14 needle round shader putting it straight into the skin ..OK well that is ideal if you want to have all those needles creating a very solid thick 14 line, and you better have a really firm hitting machine with a very even level of pressure on your hand or that shit can get ugly, skippy and choppy real quick. We now must include the complexity of the skin stretch. This same example done on a flabby stomach would be far different than on the same persons calf where the skin is extremely taught. The tighter the skin the more control that you will have with regards subtlety and nuance of needle angles, pressure, speed. if the skills to do so are present and itilized. Another example is a 15 magnum at a 45° angle.. the row of needles on the bottom is definitely going to enter the skin before the top however this can also be used to your advantage for creating a solid fill edge to edge without changing needles to a flat, as the needles push into the skin they will find their way to a taught position on looser skin that’s offering you a nice solid fill. That same situation going straight in on say a calf will leave you with a soft edged needle, so again it’s skilled application of the tool as a matter fact I have no problem shading single needles off of a 15 curve magnum by using angles and having a lot of experience. Not ideal but useable Another great technique with one of my favorite groupings (14 round shader) at a 45° angle will allow you to have a softened or rounded edge towards the outsides as the needles come up and out of the skin versus the center needles… say five or six of them will be far more buried then the needles to the outside..this is great for doing softened linear things like hair strands I could go far more into depth in this however I think the point I’m trying to make is that these are tools and a skilled user is going to be able to achieve a multitude of results using the same tools that someone who is uneducated will only have a limited use of. It also only takes five minutes of looking at some of the best tattoo artist in the world tattooing and so many of them angled their machines more than 45° to tell them its wrong to do so is simply far too black and white .. no pun intended
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment! Yeah there’s obviously much more in depth to this when you talk about angling mags etc. But to cover all that in a single video I’m sure you’d agree would be more like a 10 hours video. I’m not saying it’s ‘wrong’ to use a 45 degree angle, many artists do use this very effectively. This was just a brief overview video. Thanks for the feedback and for watching!
@LemonmilkMusic3 жыл бұрын
@@JonoSmithTattoo yes. Advanced and very hands on. I would simplify to say. If you want all the needles in a grouping doing their job, 90 is the way .. or straight in. Fit any detail work including nearly all realism tattoos.. a 45 is going to be essential… with the training to run an appropriate speed and hand pressure … and possible bog (coil) or give (rotary) … and these aspects are not beginner techniques and should be trained hands on by an advanced teacher. ….
@bryank40203 жыл бұрын
Damn....Thank goodness...I was nearly done with the 45 degree thing.Wanted to just do my thing and fck all...45 degrees at certain parts just felt unnatural... This video made me feel better...thanks man
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad it’s helped you out! Thanks for watching!
@annaskinner71872 жыл бұрын
Where is your tattoo shop man, I am coming!
@amanprasad16633 жыл бұрын
Love from India🇮🇳
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! 🇮🇳
@erickdiaz861011 ай бұрын
R. I .P master
@kingtattoos67522 жыл бұрын
Very nice bro
@gennarodeleo85423 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@topiary33762 жыл бұрын
Great vid, do you work at 90 even when shading???
@JonoSmithTattoo2 жыл бұрын
Shading is a little different as the angle constantly changes due to the machine sweeping over the skin.
@topiary33762 жыл бұрын
@@JonoSmithTattoo talking about a coil machine or a pen???? Personally I use a coil machine, some say it,'s harder to shade!!!
@JonoSmithTattoo2 жыл бұрын
@@topiary3376 Either coil or pen. Same applies.
@topiary33762 жыл бұрын
@@JonoSmithTattoo cheers man!!
@j.r.allencook90072 жыл бұрын
How come when I did it up and down (90°) the ink never went in and and all I saw was blood and no ink (line)
@harryjackson49662 жыл бұрын
Thank god someone has the balls to set it straight Most people just beat around the bush I’ve had this question unanswered from the beginning. Thank you soo much
@JonoSmithTattoo2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@hoole19263 жыл бұрын
Does this apply Apply to colour packing too Jono.
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
Yes it applies to all aspects of tattooing. Thanks for watching!
@hoole19263 жыл бұрын
I simply cannot master the basics of tattooing been trying for six months. On fake shit looks unsaturated I've even done work on myself I either get end results patchy and scratch or road rash scabs for months. I mean I haven't really been able to get a good stretch as it's on my other arm but still. Is it me or cheap shit equipment...I got told even the cheapest equipment can do the job if you learn
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
@@hoole1926 it is is true you can technically pull off a tattoo with cheap equipment but it’s VERY difficult. So if you’re a beginner and you are using cheap equipment then the odds are stacked against you from the start. I’d try getting hold of some quality equipment. You’ll definitely notice the difference.
@hoole19263 жыл бұрын
@@JonoSmithTattoo cheers mate. I've got expensive ink and cartridge just cheapish rotary
@parismarie35383 жыл бұрын
@@hoole1926 what you might want to do is look at his other video on needle depth , if it comes out scratchy you’re not deep enough and if you have scabs you’re going too deep . your machine could also be set too high and you’re going to slow ( causes scabs ) or vice versa and that could make it look unsaturated . He also has another video on hand speed vs machine speed or something along those lines those might help
@Built82F1002 жыл бұрын
Is this the same for lining and shading?
@JonoSmithTattoo2 жыл бұрын
Shading is a bit different because the machine sweeps across the skin so the angle constantly changes.
@ramtv30013 жыл бұрын
i always use 45 degrees
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
Yes there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that especially if it works for you. Thanks for watching!
@NovaTattooArt3 жыл бұрын
So; is that the same for mag shading? Or should mag shading be at 45 or less? I get the 90 for lining.. but what about mad shading/saturation
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
I try to use 90 for pretty much everything when possible.
@hana-gabana75982 жыл бұрын
Your intro music is the same as Greg deucette
@GoldenShaolinNutz2 жыл бұрын
No WONDER! I was missing Merlins Staff!
@JonoSmithTattoo2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@justinshimmel96253 жыл бұрын
Probably a dumb question but does this go for liner and let's say a weaved mag?
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
It’s not a dumb question. Yeah it applies to any configuration.
@justinshimmel96253 жыл бұрын
@@JonoSmithTattoo I kinda figured as much. Thank you
@heddybeddy2 жыл бұрын
so this is why when i am tattooing the ink isn't coming out! I thought it was because I wasn't doing the 45 degree angle right >_
@kokotahuh Жыл бұрын
holyshit I was so dumb why don’t I see it earlier I’ve been torturing my hand for so long and my hand has some problem cuz of this unhuman position. My teacher always tries to correct my way to tattoo and says it will hurt ppls skin…….. he said it’s the worst way tattoo to hold it like when you are drawing……
@osiristattooartandmachines2 жыл бұрын
90 degree is the best angle,solid line and the ink not expansive,45 degree no look good the needle,and expansive easy.
@canadianpagan64423 жыл бұрын
Does a rotary vibrate less then a coil?
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
Generally speaking rotaries vibrate much less than coil machines.
@canadianpagan64423 жыл бұрын
@@JonoSmithTattoo thank you! So in theory it should help with shakey lines?
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
@@canadianpagan6442 yes a rotary will definitely help if you’re getting shaky lines using a coil.
@pavlepaja76422 жыл бұрын
This cant be correct for colour packing?
@kokotahuh Жыл бұрын
holyshit I was so dumb why don’t I see it earlier I’ve been torturing my hand for so long and my hand has some problem cuz of this unhuman position. The artist who taught me always tries to correct my way to tattoo and says its the right right way to tattoo otherwise I will hurt the skin…….. he said it’s the worst way to hold it like when you are drawing……😢
@bestrelaxingambience95673 жыл бұрын
Question in regards of pepper shading: Sometimes I have the problem that the Cheyenne Pen only leaves red skin and "empty" dots without any ink in the skin. Pepper shading between 6 and 7.5V. Any tips on why this happens?
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
It could be something as simple as you need to stretch the skin more. Sounds like the needle is bouncing instead of piercing.
@basictattoingpinoy75563 жыл бұрын
Sir do you give freebies to newbie artist sir ? like machines ?
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry I get asked this a lot and unfortunately I don’t give machines away as I keep them and use them all. Thanks for watching!
@basictattoingpinoy75563 жыл бұрын
@@JonoSmithTattoo thank you sir just keep on making videos sir
@EnkDripp3 жыл бұрын
❤
@cjfields25423 жыл бұрын
i thought for darker skin its better to come in at an angle
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
I’m gonna be honest I’ve never heard that one.
@cpunching3 жыл бұрын
So.... should we strive to always try to hold the machine at 90 degrees and switch to 45 when required? Or is 45 degrees the whole way okay? Lmao.
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
I’d say whenever possible 90 degrees. When it’s not possible, no more than 45. Thanks for watching!
@cpunching3 жыл бұрын
@@JonoSmithTattoo Sorry the cheeky comment haha. Interesting, when I learnt stick and poke it was always 45 degrees because you can't really "punch" the ink in to the skin like a machine can. Guess I gotta undo some "bad" habits on my practice skins!
@kiran83053 жыл бұрын
sir what is the best coil machine?
@JonoSmithTattoo3 жыл бұрын
There’s so many reputable brands out there. I’ve always used Micky Sharpz. Though I absolutely love SunSkin coils too.
@supershenron91622 жыл бұрын
Between this and your color packing videos my ability has gone up 200% in under 2 hours no joke I had to the problem of solid really good lining detailed 👌 much good for a noob. Then fuck it up trying to color it, shade it out flat out pack black into it. Infuriating ruinning a stencil that took you 4+ hours to line Makes you wanna scream
@davidman1196 Жыл бұрын
Is that a computer generated voice
@JonoSmithTattoo Жыл бұрын
Yes it is. That was such a funny comment 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 🙄
@dashindon93802 жыл бұрын
LMAO!!!....it's bad enough to give APOCRYPHAL info or lessons. However To actually invigorate the bullshit with folklore and DRUIDS, simply classic!!!!