VFX Artists React to Bad & Great CGi 111

[@jscott4reel]

That Seymour Hoffman joke was fire! So glad to see some of the MI flicks covered!

[@BooN877]

It was so smooth that I was a full beat behind catching it 😅

[@RealAndySkibba]

It was awesome.

[@skribblestyle]

Had to pause and come down here to share my appreciation for Jordan's Seymour Hoffman joke.

[@sourkoyote]

No sweetie that was Phillip Seymour Hoffman. ☺

[@nugget0428]

Perfect delivery 😂

[@Rushil69420]

Literally started laughing out loud when he said $25M dollars for that stunt. The idea of him barely wanting to do the movie but still making the studio spend that much on a single stunt. Brilliant

[@MaaZeus]

Indeed. I could see his thought process be something like, I do not want to do the movie but since I HAVE to might as well as have some fun at their expense. Lets destroy something expensive and awesome!

[@ZizoMass]

Okay, I don't want to do this bullshit, so I'm going to say this scene is gonna cost 25 million, they will say no, then they will cancel the movie and everything is gonna be all right.... Wait, what did you mean by "they approved the scene"?!

[@BDFTP69420]

r/MaliciousCompliance

[@Hydraclone]

I get the feeling that is exactly why he did it.

[@mapograph]

While I totally agree with corridor crew, I wonder what their comments on the original star wars using world war II footage for tie fighter scenes would be. Its not the original footage ofc. but again its from a war where people actually died. Again its a total different situation I know but I would be interested in hearing their viewpoint.

[@michaelt8460]

Funny I actually worked on Beauty of the Beast and coordinated that shot in VFX at Framestore. The BG is a plate, the whole kitchen was actually a set (so foam was real) and we just added Mrs Pott. Good old memories! Thanks for revisiting this!!

[@LaidBackDeveloper]

that's awesome!!

[@itsasquid]

I really hope they see this comment!

[@IanMcCausland]

sounds like you need to drop by and sit on the couch.

[@casedistorted]

guest couch mannnn @@IanMcCausland

[@abdelhakkhalil7684]

I was certain that the foam was real. I mean it would take days to simulate and render the whole thing. Why not just shoot the real thing?!

[@willhahn3201]

That See More Hoffman joke was the greatest line in corridor history.

[@TK-421_66]

They were cruising along and then everything ground to a halt. Loved it.

[@gambello1195]

don't get it

[@ODekaK]

@@gambello1195 The actor's name is Philip Seymour Hoffman.

[@darkideon]

@@ODekaKi know the actor’s name, but what does “seeing more Hoffman “ means?

[@ultrostorm7648]

⁠@@darkideon​​⁠ The joke has to do with “see more” sounding like Seymour.

[@Saimeren]

You know it gets real when Wren stays quiet for several minutes of the video.

[@karl7428]

@@fortyozsteak Yes, for reference. big difference. you dont use actual real footage of tragedy to make your movie

[@DasVERMiT]

Poor Wren. Guy was hyped for that movie and I think this really took the wind out of his sails.

[@Brian-qn7fn]

@@fortyozsteak No they don't. Films haven't used really war footage for very long time.

[@Big_Boy_Grindset]

I think the difference is, is that footage of war in a movie about the war makes sense. But they're taking rememberable footage that was all over the news and putting it in a movie that doesn't seem to have anything to do with it. I can understand why it gives off an uncomfortable vibe.

[@Saimeren]

@@fortyozsteak You see, movies make dramatic reenactments of tragic events. They don't take the real footage of people dying and losing everything and put that into their movie. At the end of the day, the actors in the movies get to go home. (Ideally) In this, they're showing an event where people are literally dying in the footage. There's a massive difference there.

[@nemethagoston1418]

Hi, and thank you for approaching the Beirut explosion the way you did. I like the sensitivity you talked about it. Actually I did shoot that footage and I am quite shocked that the filmmakers used my footage for this purpose.

[@juicyshaqmeat]

Just saw your vids in your channel. I’m so relieved to know you’re okay after capturing what happened in Beirut

[@tvderana712]

How much did you make from that footage back then? Also do you want money from hollywood for that now?

[@folx2733]

​@@tvderana712I mean he should be compansated. His video wasn't a "reference" it's literally in a Hollywood movie except with some random buildings drawn on top of it

[@benschannel9065]

Yeah its really insensitive. I guess Hollywood will do whatever that want without ethics to cut corners.

[@tengiz911]

@@folx2733 unfortunately he can not by law, because he made his footage available publicly

[@acct5910]

“Two stunt people died” Jordan has great comedic timing.

[@hech-kay5060]

I love his Dark Sense of Humour.

[@JoeVanGogh]

Oh my goodness😂😂😂😂

[@icelandicbanks6473]

He nailed it with "See more Hoffman," too. Jordan's got that rapier wit!

[@eno88]

When did he say that?

[@icelandicbanks6473]

@@eno88 Two Stunt People Died he says right near the end, after the Speed 2 bit. See More Hoffman he said like 5 minutes in when they were talking about the Tom Cruise into Philip Seymour Hoffman face wipe

[@ScareCrow90]

The Beirut scene reminds me that they used actual news footage of the aftermath of the Oklahoma City bombing at the beginning of the first X-Files movie. Like not even overlaying a cg building. They had an office building blow up and collapse and the footage after the collapse is the actual footage of the federal building. I remember my parents getting upset that they did that.

[@El_Rey_247]

It's the kind of thing that I have to imagine will age "well" in the sense that people will forget about the source over time and distance, and will therefore not be taken out of the movie when it happens. Personally, I'm more bothered with how bad the rest of the explosions in that trailer were, not even remotely trying to match the reality of Beirut. It's doubly insulting, at least.

[@SnifferSock]

The weird thing is IF you're going to commit to using real footage, why put in the trailer?! Much smaller odds it's noticed in theater and by that point, you've already made your money off ticket sales. Using it as inspiration (for lack of a better word) I don't have a problem with, but CGI on the real footage... yikes. Only exception would be if you somehow got the people who lived there to vote on it and they could benefit from it, but that's pretty much impossible.

[@Peron1-MC]

@@SnifferSock true if i had seen it in the theater i might have thought. hey that looked formiliar and moved on and stopped thinking about it as the movie went on. someone might have noticed afterwards and made the connection but now it might deter people from seeing the movie to begin with.

[@exakelgaming]

It does feel like the filmmakers were being lazy rather than intentionally upsetting people.

[@derAtze]

​@@SnifferSockreference is the word you're looking for

[@keithcullen564]

Man, the whole ethics behind your explanation of the explosion effects is just another reminder that you are some solid, on point dudes. Thanks for making these videos!

[@zevo9314]

personally using footage from a real event wouldnt stop me from seeing a movie. but it does give me the ick a bit. because no one goes to a movie wanting to see people actually die on screen. and who exactly did they get permission from to use that footage? they surely didn't check with all of the victims or families to see if they minded.

[@soaphelps]

@@zevo9314 there is no one in the video. the person that filmed it from their window has rights to what they filmed. i dont see an issue with what was used. never watch pre nam war movies. this reads aggressive but didnt mean it that way.

[@Nomoon777]

@@soaphelps This is one of those cases in which it is fucked up but not specifically fucked up. How you said nobody is showed on screen, but it is clear it is a real shot of a explosion that killed a bunch of people. And the idea that someone is profitering out of the tragedy feels fucked up.

[@Eli-xu1hr]

​@zevo9314 if no one pointed out that they used the pictures from beuruiet, you wouldn't know. Wren didn't relize so you wouldn't have been reminded if a real life tragedy.

[@Nomoon777]

@@Eli-xu1hr Pretty sure that the people from the place where it happened would know. And would inform people.

[@JirMag]

As a survivor of the Beirut blast, I wanted to take a moment to express my deepest gratitude for the thoughtful approach you took in discussing the movie that used actual footage from that tragic event. Your empathy and understanding of the sensitivity surrounding such real-life tragedies truly touched my heart. It means the world to me and many others who experienced the horrors of that day to see a channel like yours speaking out against the use of such footage in a movie. By taking this stance, you are not only showing respect for the victims and survivors but also setting an example for responsible and ethical media consumption.

[@ate0844]

the energy in this trio is unmatched. hope we get to see more of jordan, wren, and niko together on the couch.

[@Jams2003-mb2sh]

The Director just did a Reddit Q&A and answered the Question about Beirut controversy : “It was never meant to be included in the trailer and never appears in the actual movie. Just by way of explanation: the reality is that archival footage is commonly used as reference for temporary VFX.”

[@avokka]

reasonable explanation, but i dont think i could ever even superimpose real footage like that for vfx, rather do it myself. still a big yikes.

[@lowestmoose5357]

I'm sorry but you can't say it was never meant to be in the trailer. Clearly a calculated decision was made to release it. Things like this don't happen by accident, film creators are very picky about trailers and make no mistake this excuse is pure bullshit. Either they left it in the trailer because it was a cheap and fast way to make an explosive shock wave or they did it to create media and public attention as a cheap way to spread the word about their film. Don't be fooled, this is exploitation of death, pure and simple.

[@KenSahaja]

​@@avokka i mean tbh destruction reference like that you could only get from disasters...

[@wiseausrs]

There's a quantifiable difference between using a shot as reference vs using a shot as stock footage.

[@TheTransporter007]

This is a huge lie. This is the only even remotely plausible explanation they could give after being caught. But it is not the truth.

[@jyanin]

Wren being deadly quiet throughout the Beirut discussion. I think that spoke more words than the actual chat.

[@gerhardebenhart6481]

How did you interpret his silence?

[@Meganhovick]

I was going to say the same thing. He was so quiet.

[@thenewgray]

@@gerhardebenhart6481 Honestly he seemed a bit hurt by what he was seeing. But he was bracketed by two well-spoken people. There was nothing he needed to add because they really nailed it.

[@ViciousTuna2012]

@@thenewgray I think you're projecting a lot onto a dude that said nothing.

[@uknownmanwlyed1215]

Left me speechless too...

[@blackspear217]

I am half Lebanese, lived there for the majority of my life. By a draw of luck, I was in Canada when the tragic explosion happed. My sister was within the shockwave of the blast and I nearly lost her. U guys hit the nail on the head. I am all for freedom of speech and freedom of artistic expression, but this felt more like an artistic and financially exploitive shortcut. It is just in very poor taste and complete lacks the self awareness of what actually went down on that day. Always been a massive fan of you guys but actually speaking out on this makes me proud to be a long time corridor fan. Cheers fellas

[@ryanthompson3737]

...so then what do you call corridor crew making likely thousands of dollars, when including other revenue streams, on this video after including that trailer instead of some other one? 1/3rd of the video was dedicated to that trailer.... it would be perfectly valid to assert those same claims for corridor crew. If using that footage was exploitative and for financial gain, corridor crew is also exploitative and did it for financial gain. Intention really doesn't change guilt since the end product is still someone making money from a disaster.

[@TheRealPots]

thats totally understandable honestly, i wrote in another comment about how i didnt care but thats because it didnt affect me at all.

[@TherapyGel]

​@@ryanthompson3737Corridor are making commentary on it. It's an entirely different use case that admonishes the people who actually chose to use the footage. C'mon, think about it for 10 seconds.

[@agirlnamedmichael1670]

@@ryanthompson3737 What an absurd view. No, it is NOT "valid to assert those same claims to the Corridor Crew". They are not "exploiting" anything- they are discussing the morality and ethics of using it in the way the filmmakers did, as well as making us and other filmmakers aware that it was done. Other filmmakers watch this show, and in the comments they will get to see our discourse on the matter, and hopefully the situation will not be repeated because those filmmakers will also feel the way we do.

[@gindamusic1296]

Have you guys even looked at the thumbnail for this video? If that doesn't scream exploitive...

[@SolarBalls]

I respect that Mistborn shirt Wren!

[@sovietunionmapping9846]

Solarballs I have an idea for a video can I share it

[@JustTearSpace]

what

[@Mondy667]

​@@JustTearSpaceyou wouldn't know

[@IAmFromTheYear]

Fun fact: In Speed 2 when the oil tanker explodes you can see a random cow being thrown through the air with the other debris. It's a homage to the director's previous film Twister.

[@LuisSierra42]

Twister was good

[@RyTrapp0]

@@LuisSierra42 The whole "hanging on by their hands and a leather strap in the middle of a tornado" part at the end really does a number on my suspension of disbelief every time, but good movie though lol

[@dude9038]

Holy cow!!!

[@kingcosworth2643]

13:41 Jake the Muss

[@TheUnmade]

My thing that made me laugh about the “Be Our Guest” song was that the performance goes from the dining room to the kitchen without Belle. I would’ve loved for them to cut back to Belle, sitting alone, with muffled music coming from the kitchen. They just left her sitting there while they sang and danced into the next room. 😂

[@toms169]

Hahaha 😄

[@johndododoe1411]

Clearly that scene was done for real, just using forced perspective to make Watson look much bigger than the servants .

[@jschnei3]

The cook stirring the soup while He-Man rocks out in the next room to HEYYYEAAAHAAA

[@na3rial]

That would have been a great fourth wall break that’s also very tongue in cheek 😂

[@aaronwolk998]

😂. Very observant, such Ryan George esc way of viewing the scene.

[@Pubeheadcodders]

I think this was one of the best episodes you guys have done in a long time. The poignancy of the Beirut explosion (which is vile) and then the speed stuff, MI as well this one rocks. Also more Jordan please! Loving his dynamic and takes ( maybe a 4 seater sofa is required to get Sam back 😆)

[@lkbasgiohbasg]

I appreciated the discussion of the ethics of using the beirut footage.

[@swill3677]

@@tousenoartyeah because people totally come to corridor digital for a deep conversation about ethics. They discussed it said they didn’t agree with it and moved on.

[@glcsander]

Well this is eddit version for youtube Il have to see the full video, but I think they did their best cause as filmaker and vfx artist they don't want to put them on full blast for doing it, one of the best things about their reaction is that they always critique without being malicious cause they have the inside perspective.

[@Aloysie]

Too bad they’re also exploiting the footage in their own thumbnail

[@fluffydemon6439]

@@Aloysie spreading information is not exploitative, e.g. i don't use reddit or social networks so i would never heard of that unless someone i watch on yt would share

[@comebackguy8892]

Such cry babies...

[@DoNotWorryPodcast]

I live in Beirut and survived the August 4 blast. Thank you for pointing this out boys ❤️🫡

[@leenthepanda]

Same

[@netkosent1620]

Glad you're alright. Got a good friend out there that wasn't far from it and was lucky to survive also.

[@leenthepanda]

@netkosent1620 thank God for that honestly

[@mathewjones7663]

As someone who lived through it, how do you feel about this footage being used like this?

[@obitouchiha3974]

@@mathewjones7663i don’t care, I mean it’s already over the whole internet anyways so why not use it for better effects

[@harrisphera5492]

See I thought this was saying they took inspiration from that and I could see that. But when they play the trailer and I see that it’s actually the same video I just jaw dropped. And seeing Wren go silent for so long just reinforces what I was feeling.

[@VariantAEC]

Seeing the overlay confirmed they used the same shot. I felt nothing because I've seen other movies use such clips out of context like when the 2007 remake of Invasion of The Body Snatchers used the STS Colombia disaster to set the movie's sci-fi story into motion.

[@ectothermic]

@@ligmaballs2022 There's a difference between Oppenheimer, which is non-fiction and biographical and using a real explosion, where 200 people died and 7000 were injured to prop up your sci-fi movie. This ain't no Schindler's List, bud. The footage wasn't used in order to respect or talk about the explosion, or the context or politics, it's a Disney fictional production. For the record, "escape from reality" doesn't have to be happy or cartoonish. Watching a story unfold is escape, whether it's a tragedy or a comedy. You have a very limited and broken view of what stories are supposed to be.

[@LordSeth-hf8ew]

this guy gets it@@ligmaballs2022

[@ectothermic]

@OkScaleModels No, and you don't have to be bothered by it. Some people are and they feel it's icky to have unsourced footage of a real explosion that killed so many people used on a fictional movie and paraded around for a trailer. Maybe you should speak to the families of the people who made it out of there, they will also have opinions about it. Japan wasn't super happy with Oppenheimer either even though it was non-fiction albeit very dramatised. You're welcome to have your opinions, other people with different perspectives and experiences will have their own.

[@liamsmith4017]

By a massive coincidence, I was going down a rabbit hole about the Beirut explosion last night. So I immediately recognized that footage.

[@mr-glizzer3332]

Yeah ive watched it over 50 times the shot felt very familiar

[@firmak2]

fr, its a great explosion and i ceep going back to watching clips of them.

[@shelbyvillerules9962]

Same here, I happened to watch a multi-angle compilation video just the other day.

[@capybara5494]

Me too wtf

[@SeanA099]

Yeah. I immediately recognized it too. Glad I’m not the only one

[@pmdesigns5798]

Jordan's got the best sense of humour. Dad jokes with the "two stuntmen died" darkness combo.

[@Jose-jr5ib]

Dude I died

[@timexyemerald6290]

when the least harmless innocent looking one has the darkest humor 😅😅

[@JennCanada1991]

The shots to Wren’s disapproving face at least 3 times 😂

[@grzegorz7191]

9:02 The flute cover got me laughing. It was great

[@Grizzlox]

Jordan was in top form in this episode. Great comedic timing throughout. Time for a raise

[@AlissonAlvesDeAraujo]

Ok Jordan, get this fake account out here. We know it's you!

[@OVAngryE]

@@AlissonAlvesDeAraujo I was just about to say something similar.

[@QuestionMan]

Props for commitment to the bit in giving us that tin whistle/thump drum music instead of just silence during the Beauty and the Beast reaction.

[@jhandle900]

I was cracking up when that came on lol. I'd like to imagine one of them recorded it though it probably wasn't.

[@cwstatic]

I think that using footage from an actual tragedy in order to create a shot is in the least "sleazy". BTW I love the Mistborn shirt!

[@aaronrobinson2121]

For sure. If we're lucky this will create some blow back and maybe they'll cut it from the show. Unacceptable in my opinion.

[@ligmaballs2022]

If we're going by the logic of watching a movie to 'escape from reality', then Oppenheimer or any film about 9/11, Holocaust, Tiannanmen Square, WWII or any film based on tragedy shouldn't be watched at all. Using the Beirut footage is a good way to remind everyone why religion, politics and corruption do not go together.

[@loading...4091]

@@ligmaballs2022 There's a difference between making a movie _about_ a tragic event and then just using footage from that event as if it's stock footage, in a Sci-Fi movie completely unrelated to the Beirut tragedy, nonetheless. This isn't like making a movie about a war, this is like making a Star Wars film and compositing in real footage of soldiers to use as Rebel troopers.

[@rbrick3685]

@@loading...4091 That's even close to being the same lmao

[@GiJoe94]

Yet National Geographic regularly uses Hiroshima and Nagasaki like footage which was way bigger tragedy

[@adilshamim0631]

I don't know why but this episode was fire. So much of laughter and chemistry between the 3 of them, energy was 💯 Loved it.

[@funx24X7]

Not to mention the incredible slide whistle cover

[@victorestomo729]

i agree on this, so much fun.

[@EricHamm]

Are we watching the same video? Beirut conversation really put a drag on the entire episode.

[@SirMonkeySuit]

Uh... That is total opposite to any other episode. After the Creator Clip, it just seemed to drop and Wren barely said anything when he is usually the most energetic.

[@LearnREPhotography]

6:52 - The conversation you guys have surrounding the Beirut footage is really important. Thank you for bringing it up and talking about it ♥

[@adrianguth]

It bothers if it's used in a movie, but if they use it in a video for their monetized channel and with sponsors, doesn't it bother?

[@VariantAEC]

​@@adrianguth Course not. It's only wrong when people you don't know in some sick parasocial setting make money off of it, duh! /s

[@adrianguth]

@@VariantAEC lol teenangers

[@VariantAEC]

@@adrianguth Agreed.

[@Razumen]

Good thing they can bring it up in this video so they can get money through its monetization. So much more honorable than it being in a film. What heroes!

[@TheOthersparktank]

The foam bubbles reminds me of the one time they were fixated on a twig snapping in the Snyder Cut for Justice League. This show always makes me so happy.

[@stanfordtodd]

The M.I. 2 mask transition is like watching close up magic 🤯

[@mzilber1]

@@lpc9929 what kind of wackadoo comment is this?

[@consumev]

@@mzilber1it’s a bot

[@LuisSierra42]

@@consumev how can it be a bot if he's infertile? robots don't need to reproduce

[@travisdk84]

I can't get enough of Jordan's sense of humor

[@strangelaw6384]

oh you're gonna love tomorrow ("how many people can a Titan actually eat?")

[@jordanfelt5978]

Dude same, it reminds me a lot of my own. Lol

[@Thecorkeeguy]

I love how wren called Emma Watson “hermione” this felt so real to me because I do this all the time. Lol

[@davidthirugnanakumar7888]

We saw her, grows up so of course

[@Haekeldrachen]

The music cover up for the Beauty and the Beast killed me. Whoever came up with this, I love you :D

[@Thisdown]

Had me bursting out in laughter

[@BedfastDuck]

I want Jordan on the couch more. He’s got great timing with his jokes.

[@DrJD123]

Man, Im glad you guys did speed 2! Even though the movie wasn't well received I loved it as a kid and that end sequence really sparked my interested in film making and sfx. Really cool to see it again and how it was done after all these years.

[@NiPeMiRecenziiFilme]

The stunts in that movie were insane. The rest was terrible, but the boat scene and the final explosion? Those were gorgeous.

[@Orihnge]

It's always fun to watch the crew try to figure out what's happening in a shot. Seeing Wren and Niko's genuine reactions from that most expensive action shot was a pleasure.

[@leythmdraws1416]

As a person who lives in beirut, was caught in the blast, and is an animator. I have watched so many videos of the blast and feel multiple times how it felt when i was hit by the shockwave. I can agree that using the footage as a reference to understand how the blast affected the area around it is viable, however using it as stock footage is definitely in bad taste. Love your work and insight guys❤!

[@stur3366]

Can I ask when it stops being a reference. Like if they kept the explosion but changed the setting and buildings, would it have less of a bad taste? I'm really curious.

[@firmak2]

how was the feeling of the explosion? i imagine pretty spicy

[@leythmdraws1416]

@@stur3366 i mean overall using the footage as the base itself especially, when it's pointed out it's always gonna feel in bad taste. It's like using real footage from any tragic event, those who were there or know someone that was there i think will always feel this way, no matter how much time passes. For those who don't have direct connection or attachement, i feel like it wouldn't affect them as much. It's more of a morality and psych question. I appreciate your honesty and curiosity while asking :)

[@leythmdraws1416]

@@firmak2 i know you're joking, but honestly it felt like my whole body got hit by a giant hammer, ringing in the ears, and in my case, got hit by the flat side of the glass from the window on the head. Followed by acidic smoky ash and dust smells. One side of our house was completely blown in. Honestly i consider myself very lucky compared to the 218 dead, 7,000 injured, and 300,000 displaced. Does that answer your question? :)

[@zwenkwiel816]

@@stur3366 that's exactly what they did though.....

[@mctooch]

16:04 anyone else get really scared when they said $25 million dollars in 1997 is $50 million dollars today? thanks fed

[@mathewadams2929]

Im always more impressed by the practical effects. That boat scene is insane..

[@STS125]

Too bad it was literally the only good part of the entire movie, lol

[@ATSaale]

​@@STS125Willem Dafoe chewing on the scenery can be appreciated in retrospect, but you're right the movie's horrible.

[@alexisborden3191]

I'll be honest I still think it looks weird like its, made of toothpicks and paper cause there's no actual building interiors that are getting turned inside out.

[@aaronrobinson2121]

@@alexisborden3191 Yeah some of that made me think it must have been miniatures, everything was too clean and didn't look lived-in. But then the guy literally jumping out of a car and dodging the boat looked way too real and my brain broke, so I think it was worth it.

[@jdavid1006]

Here's a suggestion from a classic movie. There's a scene in Legend (1985) with Tom Cruise and Tim Curry. Tim Curry's character, Darkness, walks into a room through a mirror, showing both the forward movement and the reflection at the same time. It's a really cool visual effect from a time before computers were used. Plus, his makeup in the film is incredible too.

[@jonathanharwood1255]

Reminds me of the shot in Airplane when the captain has to get ready at home to head to the airport.

[@mini-mei]

I adore that movie, and it was so well-made, it still holds up today. I had the scene in my head the moment you mentioned the mirror.

[@kevangibbs2139]

18:00 you can see the dudes feet running alongside the car so he wasn't actually driving it. These dudes were good.

[@Ahtisham]

17:52 that joke though, got everyone.😁

[@MrWaththage]

Same thing happened in the movie "Moonfall" in 2022. At minute 41‑42 (Fowler) Halle berry, watches a video titled "Flooding in Bangladesh killed thousands" on a laptop. That video is from 2004 tsunami in Sri Lanka city of Galle. Some of the people in that real video lost their lives that day.

[@fred6907]

And that's problematic how? People are waaaaay too sensitive nowadays, we have enough censorship as it is.

[@zwenkwiel816]

well what are they supposed to do? like do you expect them to generate some CGI tsunami footage just for some B-roll that appears on some laptop for a few seconds? of course they're going to use stock footage...

[@haridaspalleeri6765]

@@zwenkwiel816 yes I expect them to generate CGI tsunami footage. They're not getting paid to repaint gore and sell it to me

[@zwenkwiel816]

@@haridaspalleeri6765 lol that's not how movies work also stop with the dramatic nonsense, they just re-used footage from the news or something....

[@vashsunglasses]

@@zwenkwiel816 Wow, you're so edgy! What a big tough human being you are.

[@junior00dd]

I'm glad you guys covered that. I wouldn't have ever known otherwise, and you're right about it. It's grotesque that they used that footage.

[@VemoNotRated]

But they still used it as clickbait for profit sooooo

[@danielespinoza4848]

Did anyone notice Wren’s entire demeanor change after the Beirut scene?

[@LuisSierra42]

Yeah, Its like he was so disappointed he could no longer speak. The premise looks interesting tho, hopefully they will remove the real explosion from the final cut

[@rskl8083]

@@tousenoartso why are there 24 likes and a reply cmon man you dont have to comment every thought

[@leolord1]

poor guy he wanted to see the movie now he won't even see it hahaha

[@baishihua]

Yeah he went from 100% jolly to just 80%.

[@anonymeister123]

I honestly felt bad. You could feel his emotion

[@allenpayne9182]

1:02 - I always thought it looks weird that the explosion is behind Tom, but he was pulled from left to the right screen. The explosion is behind him, so he should be pushed towards the camera, not flying from left to right.

[@Leftysrev3nge]

In the context of the sequence, he's technically being blown forward slightly as he runs. But from our vantage it looks like it's just a straight 90° throw. It's probably a little exaggerated for drama but not completely off. When I first saw that moment in the trailer, I felt the same but the more I watch it, the more it makes sense and fits the scene.

[@ganesang5537]

I did too. Bizarro 😂

[@ganesang5537]

​​​@@Leftysrev3ngestill hard for me to get convinced it's a diagonal push. But focussing on the angle of the shadows cast by the lamp post and the car, it's clear. This right, it's a slight diagonal pull push.

[@natedicksonmedia]

Tom Cruise went to the Quentin Tarantino school of being blown away from things is all.

[@CatManDoom84]

@@Leftysrev3nge A scene exaggerated?? In a MI movie??? You shush your mouth sir! 😋

[@TheReaper9500]

I HAVE AN AMAZING SUGGESTION! The UFO crashing at the climax of the first Men in Black, on top of the fight with the bug. The blending with the fire effects when J is fighting the bug, and the UFO crashing especially are FANTASTIC to look at!

[@rcnewman51.]

I genuinely believe Niko is the Bob Ross of muzzle flashes and explosions… bob was a master at understanding lighting!

[@Hung_Nguyen_90]

Accidentally drop a flamethrower footage on footage of a house. Niko: "No Mistakes, Just Happy Accidents"

[@andrewbevan4662]

The amazing thing about the MI masks is how they also change the wearers weight and height at the same time

[@johnsensebe3153]

And sometimes, eye color. _Darkman_ got this detail right. Every time Darkman is disguised as another character, he still has blue eyes. They used contact lenses where necessary to achieve this effect.

[@ganesang5537]

Magic happens when Ethan dons the mask.

[@MumrikDK]

They can even size you down, as in the most recent one.

[@officialtheartistraps]

Wren wearing a Mistborn shirt made my heart a new level of happy.

[@SJK-ROW-K]

Like I immediately recognised this was based on the famous Beirut shot - but never realised they had actually just lifted it and covered over - that is pretty rank - even if they had shown it as news footage... hopefully it will be cut from film release - thanks for pointing that out Corridor Crew!

[@muhamadsyahmi951]

It's either cut off the part, or gives Beirut municipality a certain percentage of profit they made when it's being premiered while send them a letter of apologize including asking them to use that money to reconstruct the surrounding infrastructure that affected. What's your thoughts on my idea tho

[@scarletspidernz]

@@muhamadsyahmi951 Studio's would never let that happen they'd rather cut it.

[@Screamblade_]

Very interesting take on the explosion. And honestly- i agree. Its ok to use it as reference but to take direct footage and just modify the buildings is not enough of a change i feel

[@skribblestyle]

Yeah, you took the words right out of my mouth, mate. If it was just reference, for me at least, that's fine. Creatives use horrific shit for reference all the time. Like the Dead Space developers were literally looking at crime scene photography to get their gore right. But there's a certain amount of respect that comes from understanding and interpreting reality, rather than just... using it verbatim.

[@firmak2]

ill go the other direction then and say disagree. It being a real thing not only makes it more realistic but also gives more weight to it. Also taking a bad scenario and making something positive out of it is a good thing in my eyes.

[@PrinceGastronome]

How is that different from when there is a storm that devastates a community and then a film crew goes to use that location as devastation for their film. If you think that hasn't happened, it's happened more times than you'd know. In fact, coincidentally, the director of The Creator did this in this first film, Monsters.

[@ajankytoucan]

​@@PrinceGastronome If the director has done something simililar before it makes it even worse, because now it isn't even a single failure of judjement, which can happen, but deliberate and repeated exploitation of tragedy.

[@dominicarroyo6269]

​@@firmak2plus I don't know why anyone thinks it's just them trying to make cool explosions,like have anyone not payed attention to the trailer and story, seeing how the world is and how people are fighting for something. How devastating and scary it is as if your actually there. Not trying to be cool

[@montialarson]

It's really cool to see these amazingly talented vfx artists geek out over good and bad CGI. I love seeing people be passionate about their work and special interests. I also love that they explain, with their experience, how they think the scene was done. It makes me appreciate the art and the artists so much more when I know how behind the scenes things are done. Btw loved that 'see-more' Hoffman joke. Killed me.

[@Anthony-oe5ny]

Im from lebanon, and survived this explosion on aug 4, i remeber it was on 6pm, the most tragic thing that happened, and they just turned that into a movie scene? Like thanks to corridor crew for pointing this out♥️♥️

[@MikStorer]

yes ... so wrong to use the footage that has damaged everyday lives through to now and beyond

[@thathighguy6980]

I have 0 associations other than being human and that felt extremely "icky". Like, I feel like I need a shower after learning that

[@newbie4789]

Speed (the original one) will forever be a special movie to me. It's one of those few English movies that my dad made me watch as a little kid. He is no more but whenever I see things about the movie , it excites me. Never knew there was a part 2 ☠️

[@helenl3193]

The main thing I remembered about Speed 2 was it was a bit of a flop that seemed to be mostly talked about because Sandra Bullock was tricked into doing it by the studio who told her Keanu had already signed on to it, so she signed a contract only to later find out they lied. That was also then a bit of a talking point for the press around The Lake House, a rom-com (I think, or maybe it was just a romance/drama, not a comedy) which is the only other time they've starred together

[@alexanderedwards4617]

Fun story, the ship used for filming in Speed 2 is still an operational cruise ship, now operated by Windstar Cruises as the Star Legend. Took a cruise to Alaska on her in 2019 XD

[@HighwayLand]

6:30 DAMN!!! Yea, that never should have been done that way. A ton of people were killed in that real life explosion including all the firefighters that were on scene fighting the fire.

[@dunke10]

15:55 It's like he said "you guys forced me to make this movie, so I'm going to empty your coffers"

[@adamplace1414]

"Over time you see more Hoffman." I really want to hate that, but it works.

[@musachi5999]

I really do love this show. The inside knowledge of how these shots were done is beyond insane. It often elevates something I may have overlooked before and helps me appreciate what went into them. I now enjoy re-watching movies even more now, trying to figure how it was all possible.

[@adriennereed2202]

Kudos to you guys for your commentary on that tragedy

[@milansvancara]

Well, you can be butthurt or say that at least something good came out of the tragedy... I'd be much happier if the cause of my death was used in a movie than forgotten and never seen, especially if it was reminding people of the corruption and negligence that led to that tragedy so it can prevent more things like that in the future... It would be really bad and unethical if my particular face was seen there and it was me or someone I know dying in a close-up, but this? Nah, people are just searching for the cons without considering the pros to shame someone to feel better about themselves and their morals... (not saying that controversies shouldn't be discussed, quite the opposite, just adding my perspective to the discussion)

[@dylanchilders]

Wow, that speed 2 clip was an absolute treat. I can’t believe I had never heard of this before since its the most expensive stunt in all of filmmaking. Super interesting stuff, and its absolutely mindblowing that they spent the equivalent of $50 mil just to do it all for real

[@Herowebcomics]

...And for THAT movie!

[@drafgo2845]

The tanker explosion in Speed 2 is also pretty good. One of the best film explosions.

[@claynorth964]

You had never heard of the Speed films?

[@nemurenuyorumoonlight8778]

Suggestion: Can you guys watch Robot jox's first battle scene? Robot jox is a 1989 film about War being outlawed and now territory disputes are settled by Robot fights. Hope you enjoy the scene.

[@vaevictusdeus]

I JUST watched that for the first time yesterday! I had never even heard of it. The plot is a hot cheesy mess, but the mech fights, especially for the time, were really fun. Would be perfect for this, honestly.

[@maurenovick]

Loved that movie as a kid. I agree. Give Robot Jox the spotlight!

[@LightHawk14]

I've been trying to find this movie for like 2 decades after seeing it as a kid, but never knew the name! Holy hell thank you!

[@DaveBoy]

I was obsessed with Battletech when I was a young teen and watched Robot Jox in the theater. The robot fights were great, but there just aren't enough of them.

[@mikesilva3868]

​@@vaevictusdeussaw that film on tubitv laughter so hard at it although the mecha fighting was good though 😊

[@DanTheMan2150AD]

Funny they point this out but the shot isn’t even the final film and was merely a placeholder by Fox…

[@Connor-xp7dw]

The whistle music during the Beauty and the Beast segment was genuinely hilarious.

[@jordanfelt5978]

Okay Jordan, thank you so much for showing us the footage of speed 2. Never even seen that movie but God damn that is SUCH a cool scene! Like, it's actually insane.

[@godzuki2099]

Remember when Sam made a full tutorial on how to steal personal information, and use AI to impersonate the only person in the team that actually cares about privacy and everyone was like "yeah, that's fine", that was way worse than the beirut footage.

[@VemoNotRated]

They are also exploiting the footage for a clickbait thumbnail, these guys are just cockroaches

[@alalalala57]

Yes, a joke video which everyone, including that person, cleared, is better than exploiting hundreds of dead people. Absolutely.

[@godzuki2099]

@@alalalala57 "joke" video which Jake clearly was uncomfortable with even in the published footage, pretty sure he would've preferred to delete the whole thing, if was forced on him. Go back and watch his reaction, tell me he was really ok with it

[@Thegreatequalizer]

18:03 You can see the stunt man from the truck have to basically leap to safety while the boardwalk literally starts collapsing under his feet.

[@JerryFlowersIII]

I will never tire of seeing Mission Impossible breakdowns. Love that series so much.

[@GoetiaTV]

One of my favorite shots is in MI:2 when the bad guy tries to stab Tom Cruise’s eyeball.

[@ausis6214]

That franchise is truly a gem. 7 movies in and still going strong.

[@eli-vu3vb]

6:52 the white thing is a water tank

[@ceno10101]

Even without a guest, this channel is great. In our age of digital movies, I miss all the "behind the scenes" footage we used to get. So it really scratches that itch, so to speak.

[@diogo763]

The chemestry of these three was so energetic and fun this episode I loved every minute

[@vandelayofficial492]

I feel like the best case scenario for that Beirut footage is that its something thats only being used for the trailer.

[@davidci]

It's one thing to look at how a huge explosion affects buildings and use that to make your own CGI effect for your movie. It's another thing entirely to full-on use someone's footage of one of the deadliest explosions in recent memory and have it in your movie's trailer.

[@sudimara7731]

Literally just tracing over it

[@jakejake6029]

16:35 I love when niko said "wow", that's the first time after years of this show, he's really excited on speed 2 behind the scene

[@The2ndQuest]

Imagine sitting through Speed 2 in the theater, and waiting for the big boat crash scene promised in the trailers (and basically what the whole film is building towards). And the exact moment the boat starts to hit the dock, the sound for the film cuts out and you are left watching the sequence in silence, with only an audience member improvising a dog's barks. And the sound doesn't kick back in until after the whole crash sequence finishes. Because, yeah, that happened to me. They gave us free passes, so at least I didn't end up paying for a bad movie. Or at least, that's what I thought at the time, as I ended up using the passes for Batman & Robin. Doh! So, I guess two bad movies for the price of one is a win? :)

[@Nato2303]

i'd like you to do a follow up on The Creator. How did the studio react, the filmakers, the responsability of the VFX artist versus the director, etc.

[@kotkaconforza]

Yeah, I wan't to hear was it just a vfx vendor in a crunch who made that decision, or what tf.

[@gaa00]

Thanks Niko for bringing some perspective on that Beirut shot. My grandmother's flat was levelled, she had passed a few years before, but her neighbour in his 80s was unfortunately killed from the force of the blast that threw him across his appartment. Their building had a direct view of the port. Using footage like that and just adding VFX on top is as you say, not ok on a moral level. They could have modelled an explosion or completely changed the city, but just putting a "coat of paint" on top, that seems cheap and disrespectful. Keep up the good work guys

[@tarekmoneimsaid]

"you're contractually obligated to make a sequel" "Alright, then imma need you to build me a whole port town" "What"

[@jamesporter1991]

I think another part that makes the mask shots work so well is because masks themselves are uncanny. So if the CG looks uncanny, it actually strengthens the effect.

[@reaganharder1480]

With that speed 2 clip, the tin roofing is to me the strongest visual evidence of it being full scale. The sheets bent and twisted and fell in ways that I don't know how you would do with miniatures.

[@VariantAEC]

Really thin-cut aluminum foil might act similarly, but sourcing, folding and painting it just to break to bits in a scale miniature would be pretty ludicrous.

[@CityTake]

@@VariantAECoh there’s people who’ll do it that’s for sure

[@NotOnLand]

They're yikesing about that explosion shot and I'm just thinking "what's a beirut?"

[@niceteal]

6:25 my jaw straight up dropped wide open. Did not expect a massive plot twist on today's episode of VFX Artists React. Holy shit.

[@Andromeda4482]

Using tragedy as a reference is fine. Using it in a film, that isn't a documentary? That's insane to me. That video, all though you can't see it, captures 218 people dying. I don't want to pay to see that.

[@5ilver42]

I didn't see anyone, in it. Where are they? Am I blind?

[@TinPrince]

@@5ilver42 "although you can't see it" They're saying that the beirut explosion killed 218 people, and so that footage of the explosion captures a moment in time where 218 people died.

[@fred6907]

People have been using the atomic bombs over Japan as reference in countless movies/documentaries, who gives a shit. People are way too soft nowadays. You can't see people actually dying in the clips. But I guess todays Hollywood are so deep down the rabbit hole, they are scared of out their mind to offend anyone. Guess you can't show stock footage of WW2 anymore then either, let's say invasion of Normandie....some veteran might get his feelings in a pinch.

[@firmak2]

" That's insane to me." ever played Cod World at War? one of the most acclaimed call of duty single player campaigns? "all though you can't see it, captures 218 people dying" which just makes the explosion that much more impactful.

[@nightspicer]

@@firmak2 are you comparing a video game to actual real life footage?

[@iggygotem]

8:26 yeah this is wild and the fact that they didnt even try to change it up left some of the buildings unmodified , this is like if the Titanic movie used real footage of the actual titanic sinking

[@Astroponicist]

"over time you see more Hoffman" Dad Joke weekly prize. I do agree that the Beirut explosion footage brings up ethical & audience reaction considerations that should be discussed. have you thought about dedicating an episode to ethics in film making? I would definitely be interested in your reflections on good & bad ethics in CGI work. as always your show is well worth my time & attention. P.S. the foam bubbles are real because they are way too easy to do to justify the expense. they are coming out of a trough in the background all they had to do was fill the practical trough with soapy water & use bubblers under the water.

[@WhoYouCalingAPinhead]

After seeing Wren in that Mistborn shirt, all I can think about is how much I would love to see you guys adapt one of the fight/action scenes from any of the books within the Cosmere universe. The Kaladin and Szeth sky battle from the end of Words of Radiance immediately comes to mind.

[@kaelfinder2151]

As soon as I noticed the shirt I came looking for this comment. I totally agree

[@readmorepublishing]

I'm actually at the same agency as Brandon Sanderson and recently even had dinner with his agent. If they make this video, I could reach out to him.

[@chandramoulisarkar2935]

Yes

[@Unbreathless]

Just a coin battle! That would be amazing.

[@rajendrajoshi5092]

I have been forever in hopes that someday someone adapts The Final Empire, and I get to see that Kelsier v Inquisitor fight. With all the chaos of the city and them fighting in the middle. Though, most fights in that series would definitely benefit in an anime style adaptation.

[@JeffreyFriedman-xf7ni]

Beirut into slide whistle "be our guest" is a crazy pivot

[@laurenantanaitis9679]

As my hubby and I were watching the city explosion in “The Creator” clip, we felt the same way y’all did; the moviemakers incorporating the actual Beirut explosion footage into the film did not sit well with us, either.

[@SN4ZZYMusic]

Poor Wren man. He wanted to see The Creator and now I just feel that he's bummed out knowings they used the Beirut footage.

[@bassemb]

Three years after the fact, my home city Beirut is still reeling from the port blast's destruction. But I am SO glad some third-grade movie was able to make use of the tragedy to save some money on visual effects.

[@matthewmeunier8031]

You obviously can't see it, but there are real human deaths in the Beirut explosion clip. Using it in a movie makes it feel like a snuff film.

[@halokiller711]

A snuff film 😂😂😂😂😂 not even close

[@shhimwatching]

Absolutely stoked you guys covered the MI3 Hoffman mask shot. Watched it recently and I thought you guys might have covered it already. Utterly outstanding sequence.

[@BongoBaggins]

And when you had Gareth in the studio to discuss The Creator's VFX, you didn't even mention it.

[@johnsensebe3153]

I think the cut in the Hoffman mask shot was so a makeup artist could apply the mask precisely so that it would blend into the real Hoffman more easily. Note how perfectly in-place it is after the cut and how haphazardly Cruise puts on the mask before. It might even be two completely different masks: a stretchy one that Cruise could pull over his head, and a makeup effect mask that's made to look like the pull-over mask, but is, in effect, a mask made to look like a different mask. A "fake mask," if you will.

[@uosdwiSrdewoH]

That's PSH's actual face. They added some bits that looked like the mask was detached to make it seem like there was something there but if you look closely when Ving Rhames is smoothing it out he's not actually doing anything. It's done well to be sure but it's a visual effect, not a practical one done with makeup.

[@johnsensebe3153]

@@uosdwiSrdewoH It's definitely Hoffman's face at the end, but it's someone wearing a mask just after the cut. It could even be Hoffman in a Hoffman mask, which would help with the alignment even more, but it's not just his face with bits added. I'd love to get a behind-the-scenes take on this.

[@iamdanieloliveira]

@@johnsensebe3153 There is no mask after the cut. It's just the actor's face with CGI on top to look like a mask, slowly "morphing" into his actual face. It's clear from the smooth texture on the nose and mouth that it's not a real object. Seemlessly morphing from Hoffman wearing a mask into his actual face would be a lot harder and the result probably wouldn't even be as good.

[@jajssblue]

Thank you for covering The Creator clip. It does feel really exploitative to do such a 1to1 composite of a tragedy. Inspiration is one thing, but using direct frames is pretty awful.

[@undeadman7676]

I like the explosion 100x more knowing that it's a real explosion from a real disaster. Most humans don't have empathy that extends beyond their little circles. When you go to a movie, you're expected to try to extend that little circle to the screen, and knowing that people actually died during that shot will make whatever message is being portrayed 100x more impactful. I don't even think you can make an ethical argument against this either. Nobody was harmed FOR this shot. The shot already exists. The damage is already done. Why would you want it to have an exclusively bad impact on the world? The only possible argument you can have against it is "I don't want to see it". Which is fine. But the one thing that guarantees that I will never touch this movie is if the artist's intended vision gets compromised because some people might find it to be bad taste. I care much more about the emotional impact of the scene than I do about the complete lack of its real-world ramifications. There are none. Nobody will be harmed from this scene existing. The people that were in the explosion already posted the video. They already rewatched the video. They have already been traumatized and retraumatized by the event. This will not harm them more than they've already been harmed. This conversation is pointless.

[@HeavenlyCrockpot]

Hey, I don't know if you guys have already looked at it, but I just watched "Marcel the Shell with Shoes On", and I'm just blown away by the stop-motion they did with hand-held cameras. Really incredible stuff!

[@nedyrb133]

I can't believe Niko caught that detail about the Beirut explosion... so crazy to see the matched up frames

[@mnemosftb]

Someone else posted it on reddit but yeah it's a pretty crazy choice by the filmmakers

[@firmak2]

@@mnemosftb "it's a pretty crazy choice by the filmmakers" not really, it happens in all forms of visual and audito media