Cortina vs Mustang at Brands GP

[@SimonNoina]

The motor in that Cortina! - sounds a mechanical work of art!

[@rogbrown1458]

That straight cut box is working overtime. Rog.

[@Loulovesspeed]

Ahhhh, memories of the great Jim Clark tossing his Cortina around - usually on 3 wheels! I'm not sure anyone had the connection with a race car that Jim did. Fabulous driver and always a match for the best! Jim, and the Flying Mantuan, Tazio Nuvolari, were two of my favorite drivers of all time. They were two of the oh so rare, naturally gifted great drivers!

[@billide1463]

Very respectful racing, no paint swapping; giving and taking with plain skill!

[@pauln1557]

Great racing, great cars. I love the variety of car designs, Mini- front engine/front wheel drive, Imp- rear engine/ rear wheel drive, Cortina, A40, Mustang - front engine/rear wheel drive. Shame no one ever made a rear engine/front wheel drive car!!

[@baylessnow]

I imagine it would still be on the start/finish straight, spinning it's wheels as everybody lapped it.

[@pauln1557]

@@baylessnow i totally agree - But,it would have been a real winner driving in reverse!!

[@gmboy559]

Helluva race on both parts. The Cortina was passing smaller cars under braking and in corners even when it also had them on the straights - hint - and the Mustang only kept ahead because of the skill of the driver flogging it and the nature of the track. Great fun to watch.

[@hondasarefaster5914]

Mustang clearly had more power..

[@aaronhumphrey2009]

Cortina's got slightly better handling, Mustangs got slightly more power. Great passes at 7:55-8:17. Clean racing.

[@williamdolyniuk7804]

V.8 still a v.8 289 h O. Maybe . V.8 torque. L.o.l.

[@rhett7716]

slightly more power ? 😞

[@Loulovesspeed]

I think you're in the neighborhood, but the Mustang has a LOT more power, but its weight and suspension are working against it with the nimble, better handling Cortina clearly being better in the control department. I find it amusing to watch vintage British racing as some of the cars that compete are so vastly different, I can't quite make sense of it. When you run a 7 liter, 4,000 lb.+ Galaxy against a 1.1 liter Mini Cooper, I just laugh and shake my head. In America, we seem to do a better job in having competing cars at least in the same realm as each other. I do have to say though, it's fun watching the mouse vs Goliath on the track!

[@michaeldeakin4287]

@@Loulovesspeed Compared to the Galaxy, the 64-6 Mustang is extremely light for an american car, (3000#) before lightening, plus the 289 is very oversquare, which makes it less torquey but fast revving. I'm a mopar guy but i've had quite a few of these early coupes and with a few go faster parts, they are fun to drive and reasonably economical.

[@larrybrown9279]

I used to race go karts when I was a kid in Bakersfield. This brings back a lot of fun memories, very similar action when trying to overtake in the corners and on the straight. Some guys you just can't get around.

[@joekurtz8303]

So nice winding engine drive train &, one by one passes till you get down to diving into corners & letting it hang out & catch traction . The Cortina driver kept the Mustang driver honest after the pass, & retake. If the Mustang made any mistake..... .......

[@richardglen9761]

Can't beat a gotina

[@NEtrailrider1]

that was cool, vintage racing is awesome

[@blxtothis]

Imps demonstrating straight line corner technique, look away now Ralph Nader!

[@Hoops-Senior]

I thought holding the inside at Druids on lap 9 was good but going around the outside of a slidey car at Druids on lap 10 was brave and inspired. Nice.

[@michaelcauser474]

Go Tinny. My first 105E estate could just do about half the speed of it before the valves started bouncing, but it did go better when I dropped in a 1500 motor.

[@trevorvanbremen4718]

Sounds VERY familiar to me... Although my 105E was the 'van' version... I kinda modified my 1500 somewhat with VW pistons, hot cam, better intake + carbs, extractors etc (like ANY sane person would!)

[@stevenlawrence278]

Well done to the driver of that A40, number 55. Punching well above his weight, he did well to fight off those other, better cars for so long.

[@kimmorrison9169]

gotta frustrate these drivers when a V8 mustang or galaxie just blows by on the straights! Nice job driving and preparing that Cortina! It runs like a scalded cat!

[@wareidav]

Please tell me you have the best time driving like that... That looks soooo much fun. The sights and the sounds of a high revving four cylinder, rear drive with skinny tyres and very little grip is like watching a ballet powered by petrol. I just love it

[@frankirvine316]

Good racing✅ Those pesky Hillman Imps😂

[@Toneski123]

Ha ha, it's looks like he's out for a Sunday drive. Very calm and collected. That's why he climbed through the ranks so quickly. Very smooth. Well done.

[@eddy2fast260]

Great to watch a race without some fool racing his mouth to keep up with the action. Thanx.

[@gren509]

Great action - but where is the crowd ??

[@biketech60]

Might have been a different finish if both cars started closer . Excellent race driving . I lack that consistency in my video game racing .

[@thephilpott2194]

Good video. I think better brakes may have also favoured the Cortina. Although even F1 drivers use sims to familiarise with a circuit they haven't visited before, it's only to learn where the corners are and get a visual 'tape recording' in their head of the sequence of corners. As Clarkson found out in a road car, setting a lap time on a game or sim then trying to match it on the track on the 3rd of 4th lap results in a spin. The reverse is also true, you could be crap on a sim and fast on a track, simply because VR lacks all of the feedback that the car, tarmac, camber, gradient, g force etc. gives you.

[@multa765]

What the heck was my Dad doing at 9:58 in his Austin Cambridge? I thought that was replaced when I was about 7 by our Wolseley 16/60.

[@duallydriver2]

Would be nice to know what engines they both have!! Makes a world of difference.

[@rhett7716]

hmmm 1.6 with about 150 hp v 4.7 with about 380 hp at a guess

[@michaeldeakin4287]

@@rhett7716 Surely, at least a 2 litre pinto or BDA engine, Jim Clark's Mk 1 Lotus had 220 hp in the 60's. The HIPO 289 had 271 hp from the factory but I would imagine this one would be around your figure at least.

[@petervogwill6499]

Willing little steed..! Great delicate touch, driver very familiar with car and track. ..good match with Mustang...!!

[@nickkostakis9600]

Top stuff mate thank you

[@bimble7240]

Never seen an Austin A40 raced before. Quite surprised how quick it was.

[@AC1131-i8d]

Just love those Hillman Imps!!!

[@borisborisov195]

3rd to 4th very close gear ratio. Keep the rpm and hp pumping :)

[@zora_noamflannery2548]

Great racing. I got a cramp from doing the old heel/toe.

[@yabbadabbadoo8225]

150 mph on the speedo?? In which century would that happen??

[@ianbrown9082]

That's just the standard VBox software desplay used for all cars. At Goodwood the Cortinas are pulling around 126-128mph

[@jonathangriffiths2499]

If only you had a 2 litre Twincam . Nice upload 👍

[@dohcsmr1175]

Ignorance. The Cortina’s 800lbs lighter than the Mustang. Per rules. The Cortina could have 7 cams and it would make no difference. The Mustang in the states are not crippled with BoP. This race is good entertainment but not indicative of the true potential of the Mustang. The Brits will NOT let a Yank Tank show its hand at Brands Hatch.

[@lotuscortina63]

@@dohcsmr1175 ignorance ! Really ! The cortina’s engine is 1/4 the capacity of the Mustang and has half the amount of pistons ! So What exactly makes you think that this video shows the full potential of the Cortina ?

[@rhett7716]

@@dohcsmr1175 well the mustang was miles faster in a strait line, just crap under brakes and cornering !

[@dohcsmr1175]

@@rhett7716 You keep telling yourself that. Ignorance is a cruel mistress.

[@dohcsmr1175]

@@rhett7716 Research. If you think the Mustang is “crap” you may want to read the rules. If, and this is a big if, you can comprehend you may understand why the Cortina is better under braking and still could not finish ahead of the Mustang. The Cortina is an outstanding car and very good at that track. To say the Mustang is crap is self evident your ignorance of racing. These two cars at Road America or Spa the Cortina would get lapped in a one hour race. At a tight smaller track with a lot of transition the Cortina has the advantage. If you had the smallest of understanding of racing you would understand this. Everyone knows the FIA will not let an American car win in Europe. Except when it benefits them. When the new Ford GT won Le Man the FIA gutted the Ferrari before the race. This is why there are no more American Backed cars racing in Europe. They will not get a fair shake. Sad really but that is the politics of racing.

[@ranger_a6953]

Is it me or is the g-force meter backwards? The red dot should move to the back on acceleration and to the front on braking?

[@MrSaemichlaus]

Actio vs. reactio. Depends on which side of the same coin you look at. EDIT: yeah the two components aren't consistent in their principle.

[@baylessnow]

This clearly shows you why NASCAR racing only has 2 bends! 😀

[@trevorvanbremen4718]

Ahem... two LEFT bends... They cannot turn right

[@TheMalerdaemon]

Mr. Bean was out there running interference….

[@Pomdownuder]

What it the grey A40 Farina number 55(?) Running it's got more guts than my old man's Farina ever had even when new, great lumps of iron and steel,not forgetting those glorious imps, except when the buggers overheat, bye bye cylinder head .

[@lardyify]

Well, who won?

[@rogbrown1458]

Yeah .the 60s all over again. Still have my 1965 lotus Cortina but not my Morris mini cooper s unfortunately. Rog. Pacific sunset records

[@johnclayden1670]

Damn, I wish I still had my 65 Lotus-Cortina. Not the best car I've had but perhaps the most fun. Had a Bullit box installed - fantastic on the road, slow for the traffic lights GP. But wotta pig to start ....

[@rogbrown1458]

@@johnclayden1670 hi John. Good to hear from you. They were pigs to start but I skimmed 40 thou off the head and put in bigger inlet valves similar to the lotus big valve head and problem solved. Added octane booster to the fuel helped. Back in 1965 101 octane fuel was readily available in the form of esso golden or the best I found was Cleveland discol super with added alcohol which helped the mini cooper tremendously. Man. Those were the days but today our daily transport consists of Mercedes 190e s which I now collect. Hopefully an appreciating asset. Take care and stay safe. Rog. Pacific sunset.

[@johnclayden1670]

@@rogbrown1458 sensible mods Rog and I wish I'd done 'em. I remember 5-star fuel well! (I later had a Mexico in which I had installed a racing twin-cam (Lotus)). Daily transport now in Australia is my wife's Mazda CX-30 whilst my Corvette is stored in UK. I always liked the 190e, perhaps the favoured in the MB range. Happy days!

[@rogbrown1458]

@@johnclayden1670 corvette and a Mustang were the 60s cars to have along with a woodie to cruise to Malibu or Huntington beach back then. Pleased to hear you still have your corvette. What more can I say but gday and stay safe. Rog. Pacific sunset records.

[@rhett7716]

Congratulations Rog for still having yr lotus ! i stupidly sold my mk1 lotus escort for $3k ..... now look at the prices! even my first car, a datsun 1200 coupe are pulling crazy money. i could possibly affort a 105e, if u could find a decent one ! 😏

[@crazyprepper5400]

Love the gear box

[@saltzen961]

Implicit in the name "Racecar" , is the idea of speed . The balanced Ballerina might look lovely dancing , but the Mustang has the horse :)

[@Hoops-Senior]

You do know that the world is round and there are more corners than straights, right? ;)

[@TheEulerID]

What the hell is an A40 doing on a race track?

[@meltdownman8911]

I assume all the Hillman Imps had their mirrors removed before the race…

[@trevorvanbremen4718]

I thought they just rusted off during lap 1?

[@johncunningham4820]

Damnable Hillman Imps . Fill as much track width as the Length of them , seeing as they are always fully crossed up sideways . Startlingly FAST little suicide boxes though .

[@Griswaldization]

Alot of Scooter Billies!!🍻🤘

[@rustyicepick8462]

Was the Mustang a 6 or a V-8?

[@michaeldeakin4287]

289 V8, no one uses the six, it's way too slow, i've had both and can testify to that.

[@garyhewitt489]

Minis Farinas, Imps, Cortina's. Just a pity the old Riley 1500 wasn't there. They were decetivly quick in their day.

[@mssmmgnn]

The weak part of 60's muscle cars was clearly roadholding and trim in general, not lack of hp, for sure: fast in the straight, low and drift in any corner

[@RandyDubin]

Looks like one of those invitational events I did in the career mode in Project CARS 1. 🙂😁😁😁

[@hotchihuahua1546]

6:20 Cut to she chase on what I came to see .

[@JackF99]

I've driven both models and that had to be a six-cylinder Mustang or an absolute pillock behind the wheel of it. On a smooth track like this a small-block Mustang handles as well as a Cortina and a 289 can easily make gobs more power.

[@rhett7716]

the way he cleared out on the strait, have to be a 289 !

[@JackF99]

@@rhett7716 Well perhaps the straights are short at Brands Hatch. He should have been over the horizon. We know a lot of early Mustangs exported to Europe were six cylinder models. They like this one had no V8 fender badges ahead of the front wheel.

[@Loulovesspeed]

I don't know about Mustangs racing in England, but I'll tell you that in the U.S., I've been watching Mustangs race since they were created, and I have NEVER seen a 6 cylinder on a race track......never. My guess would be a Hi-Po 289 with 271 hp, but it may be tweeked a bit more, and maybe not! That aint no 6 banger in there!

[@thethirdman225]

Nah, the Mustang is a one-trick pony. A well driven Cortina can match it. Look where they are braking and look what happens at Paddock Hill Bend.

[@JackF99]

@@thethirdman225 If you go back to the early years of the SCCA Trans-Am series you had Lotus Cortinas and Mustangs with on the track at the same time just like this. I don't recall the Cortinas staying with the Mustangs at all.

[@flintgrind]

Mustang? What Mustang.

[@josephinebennington7247]

My Dad’s A40 never performed like that…

[@josephinebennington7247]

Not round BH, just to it, and from it…

[@meltdownman8911]

Try staying in third down the hill into Surtees -

[@locatefastballchange]

Mustang had strange power at strange places. Mmmmm.

[@markjackson8302]

Nice

[@-PLAYER0NE-]

Hu.. so that’s the track i know so well from playing years of forza.

[@MichaelSmith-nd4rr]

That imp was a worry

[@rhett7716]

did u see his 4 wheel drift ? 🤤

[@grahamrandle271]

A

[@johnhenshaw7655]

That’s not real 😡👎🏻it’s computa stuff ,a load of crap.

[@Loulovesspeed]

You've been playing with your Xbox too long me boy!