Why Logical Thinking is Illogical - Rory Sutherland

[@dmac2573]

I love how this is the complete opposite of the Hitchens interview. Instead of getting up and leaving early, Rory essentially keeps Alex hostage for another 15 minutes after trying to wrap up!

[@benblarney]

😂😂😂 absolutely hilarious, he didn't want to stop talking.

[@captainyossarian388]

I found the man fascinating. He almost had Alex in stitches a few times, kinda. I hope Alex has him back. He's one of those rare people who talks a lot, and says much.

[@davidwing288]

Well, Rory actually has something to say

[@dmac2573]

@@captainyossarian388 I love Rory too, he has a great way of thinking and is clearly very open-minded. We need more eccentrics like him.

[@Kimbie]

Yes, in this sociopolitical climate its very, very rare to find someone who I very much do not agree with but still would listen to for hours. I'd love to see him on the podcast again!

[@BarackObamaJedi]

The range of Andrew Serkis is absolutely phenomenal

[@m3rc14n]

😂😂

[@Fourttrax]

Seriously though!!! haha

[@thegoodthebadandtheugly579]

I was scared Serkis got immensely fat..

[@alexlewis5365]

​@@thegoodthebadandtheugly579He's not fat. He's just that good at acting.

[@thegoodthebadandtheugly579]

@@alexlewis5365 must be the latest VR

[@AlexWalkerSmith]

I want to be upset that he didn't allow Alex to fully ask a single question or even finish a sentence, but I was too distracted by the interesting things he had to say. And the way he looped his tangents back around to his point was insane. A true champion of rambling 😅

[@jabulilesolontsi4459]

Windbaggery comes naturally to Brits. It's in their DNA. No surprise there.

[@openmind5973]

Based on your comment, I'm going to try to listen to it again. I wasn't as accommodating as you and switched it off after 15 minutes. He. Wouldn't. Stop. Talking.

[@AlexWalkerSmith]

@@openmind5973 fair warning, Alex tries to participate but get interrupted several times 😅

[@openmind5973]

@@AlexWalkerSmith I just finished listening to it. I'm glad I did, really interesting guy with some left-field thoughts. Pretty funny how Alex was unable to end the conversation. I imagine they're all still talking in the lobby about EV's and property values. Oh, and the best ways to shave your privates 🤣

[@Bunjee77]

I couldn't agree more

[@itsbaz]

Intelligent - Check Articulate - Check Pragmatic - Check Conflicted - Check Charismatic - Check Somewhat logical - Check Somewhat illogical - Check Somewhat misguided - Check Self-aware and do not care - Check Quintessentially British - Absolutely

[@shadowofmyfutureself]

Complex.multi faceted and nuanced... TBF the beit where Alex is discussing machines and early chess computers Rory listens carefully and Alex ends his point without interruption

[@neil1997]

"excellente!"

[@ketongu]

Hanging on in quiet desperation - check

[@yancowles]

Yeah, but does he Djent?

[@Tethloach1]

Yep pretty much

[@Aenimus12]

I really liked the way this started with no introduction, just seeming mid-discussion, and all of the "behind the scenes" moments left in.

[@Wolfenkuni]

It kind of felt they snuck in to another interview and just recorded a conversation.

[@markrickel1632]

Yeah. Formal setting and crew, yet totally informal beginning and ending and everything in between.

[@engagelincoln7293]

This guy doesn’t need an interviewer. Just leave one question, handwritten on a piece of paper, on a table in an empty room, and he’ll just talk endlessly.

[@alexracy9165]

I’d listen to it

[@selvamthiagarajan8152]

Who is this gentleman on the right of the screen

[@Proud_Troll]

​@@selvamthiagarajan8152 Rory Sutherland?

[@trapeye3464]

islam is the truth

[@the.monologue]

@@trapeye3464 no

[@UplandJones1]

That has been one of the most genuinely enjoyable conversations I’ve ever heard on KZbin. Thank you for giving this a platform, Alex.

[@UplandJones1]

And that was the best ending ever!

[@Voldemorts_Mom]

Haha totally agree!

[@matttzzz2]

The man is brilliant

[@Olyfrun]

Intellectual powerhouse, simply put. The man is well read , attentive and imaginative

[@markrickel1632]

Same here. I think i actually felt joy listening to this one. Not sure as I don’t usually feel that anymore.

[@petecowley3481]

Everyone talking about how he kept interrupting Alex is neglecting to mention the fact that he equally keeps interrupting himself

[@Simrealism]

Bias -- even people who think they know better, don't.

[@PaulRWorthington]

I've never watched him before, I'm 10 minutes in, and my take is the host won't shut up and let the guest speak.

[@tonicogsf]

@@PaulRWorthingtonI guess you mean the opposite. Alex is the host here

[@PaulRWorthington]

@@tonicogsf No, I meant what I said. The host Alex would not shut up. Constant needless and distracting interjections.

[@arkimanti]

@@PaulRWorthington it's not an interview

[@mostlyincompetent]

Rory Sutherland is one of the most immediately endearing podcast guests I’ve ever heard, have him on every few months this was great.

[@GeorgeWilliams-uq1bd]

Sutherland is just brilliant - he has no filter and is massively enthusiastic, and is incredibly intelligent - brilliant episode!

[@heshanandrews]

He was talking the moment the video started, He was still taking at the end Alex had to end it multiple times only for him to strike up a convo again. Mad old lad.

[@benblarney]

He's crazy 😂😂😂. See him giving us young ppl shit. Old ppl can't stop talking

[@damarcuscolfer1485]

​@@benblarneyArguably better than not being able to sustain a convo.

[@JustME-ft4di]

Can’t shut up.

[@anainesgonzalez8868]

I dont mind it

[@KissSlowlyLoveDeeply-pm2je]

British people are really rude.

[@24pazman]

Absolutely loved this conversation, I've never heard of this guy but he's so genuinely charismatic that I didn't mind him talking over Alex nearly the entire time 😂 I may have enjoyed it as much as Alex seemed to

[@MouseQueso]

I love the way this one starts. It just jolts into life. Voice from the darkness into the scene. It's beautiful

[@damarcuscolfer1485]

Mm, rather artistic, though I fear it isn't intentional. I imagine Rory just began speaking before properly set up and Alex didn't want to lose any of it.

[@Simo_Oficiall]

Rory started speaking before the podcast began and continued to speak well after Alex wanted to wrap up. What a lad.

[@matttzzz2]

And ends with him violently holding Alex hostage. I wish it didnt end though because i can hear him talk for ages!

[@melissan6392]

@@damarcuscolfer1485does it have to be intentional to be beautiful?

[@shadowone01x99]

Thos dude went from topic to topic more fluidly than any lubricant known to man. Truly talented and natural conversationalist. WOW!!!!

[@BeheadedKamikaze]

This "raw" form of podcast/interview is so much more entertaining and feels a lot less constrained than a lot of other interviews. Bravo Alex and Rory!

[@BeheadedKamikaze]

Now Rory shut up and let Alex go shave his genitals 😂

[@MosestheGrey]

"A certain Mr. Hitchens, I wont tell you which one." Dude the suspense is killing me!

[@captainyossarian388]

If there was an afterlife, the late one would have had a good laugh at that.

[@ac1646]

😂😂😎

[@terabyter9000]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/jKqwmY2erMpmncU

[@KnightCDXX]

timestamp?

[@firehot006]

@@captainyossarian388 That randomly made me think of the Douglas Adams quote 'He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife.'

[@benjaminlquinlan8702]

Skepticisms final frontier is Skepticism of Skepticism

[@tgenov]

Skepticism of skepticism of skepticism. Add a layer each time. It’s skepticism all the day down…

[@Theactivepsychos]

@@tgenovskeptical turtles. Or is is lobster? PETERSON?!

[@o_o............]

Skepticism should be a tool not an overarching ideology

[@C-Farsene_5]

@@tgenov skeptiception!

[@tgenov]

@@C-Farsene_5 Can’t tell if that’s a skepticism implosion; or an explosion 🤷‍♂️

[@PClanner]

Rory is the only guest on podcast I can listen to multiple times, he always has a enormous amount of knowledge on a fantastic range of subjects that he can contribute to. Good content Alex.

[@MartijnMuller]

You have had some amazing interviews, but this one has to be my favorite yet. Not just insightful, but Rory is just an amazing character.

[@michaeledwards5232]

There are already infinitely few people able to speak with so much charisma, wit, charm & perhaps most importantly intelligently researched ideas. I would suggest that in 30 years there would be even less! What a gift. A reminder to always be curious, to have real conversations where you listen, and to never be afraid of sounding foolish when sharing ideas.

[@robintenhunen7508]

"You young people, with your photographing your genitals!" really got me dying.

[@isidoreaerys8745]

Young people Do be photographing Dey genitals. I’m simply amazed at the amount of Reddit accounts people maintain only to blog daily pictures of their penis.

[@WickedIndigo]

I’m at work listening right now, and I cackled out loud when he said that. I was stocking diapers and scared this poor mother who was quietly looking for the right product. I felt so bad😂

[@freetshirt_250]

😅

[@mctv7416]

Its true tho, if in the past you wanted to photo your genitals you had to get a film camera and then take it to the film shop! Unless you had Polaroid. But i needed two polaroids ;) haha

[@gosiama480]

Uh lala😂​ @@mctv7416

[@izzilarkins3949]

I'm generally fairly left-wing, but I'd take this fella in government over contemporary labour in a heartbeat. The loss of nuance in politics isn't just harmful in terms of outcome - we lose out on the beauty of broad contemplation

[@izzilarkins3949]

also "fuck that, the little shits can go and stay in the travel lodge" is quite possibly the best single line to come out of this podcast yet

[@ludvigInLegendaryLands]

100%

[@dawnkeyy]

He seems like an actual intellectual, not just a guy who download a politics package from his peer group. How may people that would call themselves right wing would ever say something as socialist sounding as he did here, at least without referring to a jewish conspiracy regarding the housing market or something. I wonder what his social policies would be though

[@SineN0mine3]

​@@dawnkeyythe idea of right and left wing being central to political thought has been outmoded in western countries since the invention of neo-liberalism. Neo-liberals (as in both/all of the major parties in most western countries) give you progressive talking points and conservative economic policy. They're outwardly leftwing but inwardly right wing. They'll happily condemn right wing and conservative ideas while enacting them and explaining how they're actually progressive. At the end of the day all that matters to neo-liberals is the crony capitalism that funds it. It doesn't matter whether you wrap it in a pro-labour or pro-liberty wrapper, you're always getting the same thing and it's their close personal friends and family who see the sole benefits of their choices.

[@letsburn00]

If conservative people were like him, they would have gotten more votes. His comments on Georgism are dead right. He basically says that it's simply unfair that all the money ended up with the rich. That's extremely unlike more right wing leaders these days

[@ancientflames]

"learn to fucking drive" Next video better be your driving lessons philosopher boy.

[@ceatlas5267]

😂😂😂

[@bluevayero]

Learn to drive, in this economy 💀

[@ancientflames]

@@bluevayero 😂 To be fair you can get a used car from 5 years ago for a damn decent price.

[@Jacob-qr8pl]

​@@ancientflames Can confirm. Bought a 2020 is really good condition for a really good price.

[@ancientflames]

@@Jacob-qr8pl good on ya mate. Enjoy it!

[@aaronlawrence6350]

Why can't American conservatives be this...normal? Reasonable? Rational-thinking? Well-read? Like, when is the last time I heard a GOP member talk about Adam Smith or Georgism or compare different taxation schemes or say "Overton window?" Have I ever? Like I'm sure I would disagree with this guy on a lot of things, but I could at least TALK to him without diving into conspiracy theories or having to explain basic economic concepts.

[@Kannot2023]

UK had exiled all the extremists in colonies that's why

[@ViceAdmiralHoratioNeIson]

American conservatives talk about these things all the time, youre just listening to the wrong ones

[@waspsandwich6548]

My guess is you're in a leftist echo chamber. Try Ground News I guess IDK, just know the loudest voices on the right don't represent the majority view. They're loudest because they spark outrage.

[@wigpiipgiw1582]

​@@Kannot2023nigel farage wants to put asylum seekers in detention centres

[@Ron-Ayres]

Exactly this. The GOP has gone mad, it seems - the lunatics truly have taken over the asylum. Can you imagine this man sitting on a congressional committee with Lauren Boebert, MTG, Gaetz, Tuberville, and Gym Jordan?! Their collective ignoramus brains wouldn't even equal a fraction of Rory's.

[@thomasrixon3336]

This may have been my favourite episode yet. Rory is supremely charismatic and an utter joy to listen to. Even though Alex didn't get much talking in, he steered a fascinating conversation with his intermittent questions. I genuinely belly laughed at a few points (see- "photographing food and shaving your genitals")

[@scslunatic]

I only listened to this because it was on Alex’s channel and expected to quit it quite early. Couldn’t stop listening. Brilliant! Thank you Alex for these conversations.

[@MNBLUE1]

Same!

[@Wolfenkuni]

I think allex said: hmmm, and I don't have a car, and "Hitchens left early"

[@jeremybuckets]

As an outsider to British politics, it’s fascinating to hear a self-described member of the center-right argue for massive wealth and property taxes in favor of a system that benefits the laborers and not the “merely rich”. My brain can’t compute it.

[@Chadmlad]

This is what the right in America SHOULD BE! Not blathering nonsense 24/7 about conspiracies

[@davegold]

He's someone who is self-proclaimed right instead of someone who has to attract right wing votes (from homeowners).

[@rasmusn.e.m1064]

I don't know him, but since they didn't talk about anything other than monetary politics, he could still be extremely anti-immigration, anti-lgbtqa+, etc, or just for the Anglican church. As he said himself, the left is extremely fissiparous, so there are many issues which one can oppose it on.

[@isiahguerrero1044]

@@Chadmladlmao your comment made me laugh because it is unfortunately true

[@FernLovebond]

@@Chadmlad ^ THIS ^

[@kjs8719]

Guy clearly loves the sound of his own voice. But he's also saying really good stuff, and I've enjoyed every second of it. When he refused to stop talking when Alex tried to wrap up, I was really pleased. Best monologue ove ever heard 🤣

[@jinxhijinx1768]

the dutch tulip mania is what Rory is talking about, which is believed to be the first example of a speculative bubble, as people were purchasing unbloomed bulbs that came from exotic tulips bred to have multiple colours on the petals (which actually came from a disease that also happened to limit the bulbs a flowering plant would produce, hence the exoticness). these became trades of contracts of future bulbs and a contract would trade hands multiple times with the trade going unfulfilled as they were really buying and selling the promise of the tulips being expensive more than the actual tulips themselves. comparing this to the housing market is quite an interesting way to make the point that there needs to be more regulation on housing

[@furrycannon]

Rory Sutherland is an absoloute gem. He needs to do as many interviews as possible. Pass as much of his knowledge and passion on as possible before hes killed by heart disease or the chair hes clearly uncomfortable in.

[@deeemess]

Two things we can be sure of if "info-butler" services arise: 1. Info-butler agencies would be formed 2. A secondary market would form where companies pay these agencies to favor their goods/services

[@johnwarning9050]

1. Secondary market is a resale market, not a market tiered by pricing levels. 2. What you describe is not unique to this idea whatsoever. Any service will have someone or group willing to pay more than others.

[@deeemess]

​@@johnwarning9050 1. Feel free to use whatever term you think fits best. 2. I never said it was unique to this idea. I'm implying that the info-butler industry would inevitably be undermined because whoever is "willing to pay more than others" isn't necessarily the best choice. This is antithetical to the notion of a service that finds the best choice for its users.

[@danielh6683]

This idea reminds me of the web researcher services that sprang up in the early web, it might ease the transition in to AI for some crumblies but wont take off seriously or last long.

[@miss1of2]

​@@deeemess that's why he made the reference to the trustworthiness of Quakers... An info-butler agency that values trust as highly as Quaker would not accept payments for basically advertising a subpar service or product.

[@cheddarfodder]

Ask Jeeves: Reloaded

[@thegreenerlife]

Really enjoyable conversation. Love how it felt completely off script from start to finish 😂

[@supremepancakes4388]

Alex with his perfect “flow state” podcast and a humble and quiet but engaged style of interviewing that i believe makes you stand out a lot. This is a LUSH treat. Awesome line up you have for guests as always. You must have worked hard on your reputation for years, kudos to that! Love the featuring of more economically minded people in the philosophy-progressive-atheist side of KZbin. As a mathematically minded and “yapping” obsessed computer scientist, I enjoyed this greatly whereas other pods usually make me a bit bored in the middle or cringe over dramatic upsells of overpromising technological predictions as I recently come out of university and still have in mind a vivid but responsible intellectual discussion should feel like. Fun fact: the narrowing of Overton window on both sides of big party politics is a great example of spatial competition eventually settling into a fight for very small margins in the middle, as described by the Hotelling model.

[@spi19991337]

I love this! It’s my favorite Alex interview. How many people can ramble fascinatingly? He’d be my favorite uncle!

[@nithinkr2000]

48:19 The mental skills required to solve problems are actually very very different than the mental problems required to win arguments.

[@amanueltewolde6328]

stroke of genuis the way the people setting up the podcast are in the podcast as Rory and Alex talk about podcasting. META

[@lad4694]

They couldn't resist talking before setup completed😂😂

[@HenryThree]

well shit, I think I might be a Georgist...

[@jhunt5578]

Brit Monkey had a good video on it.

[@NK-vd8xi]

It's literally the only thing the genuine left and the genuine right can agree on. Everyone against it is in it for themselves.

[@jean-lucwalker3690]

It's the origin of Monopoly

[@erikrobert8007]

I had the same thought lol

[@ewangent]

It's a big tent, welcome 😁

[@emk2585]

I really enjoyed Rory! What a breath of fresh air. Well done Alex.

[@RG-em2lg]

genuinely one of my favorite interviews. It seriously flew by, was so sad it had to synthetically end, but I get you don't got all reasources and time in the world of course

[@ToxicTubeAgario]

This guy is funny af

[@newtonianromance]

What a wonderfully erudite and charming speaker is Rory Sutherland. Thank you sir for the interview and thank you Alex.

[@jeremyn4397]

This conversation was a great! It really had a different kinda of feel to all of Alex's other episodes. The topics and kind of dialouge were unique.

[@devilsadvocate7389]

This is one of the best guests on this podcast… what an interesting person this is. I love it.

[@helaughs]

Subtitles drive me nuts 🤣 I read the whole line before the character delivers it and it ruins the presentation for me. But that microphone tech observation is spot on. Christopher Nolan: "Let's take it again. Even more quiet, everyone. Idris I can still understand you."

[@joemanginaa]

Subtitles definitely ruin comedy

[@damarcuscolfer1485]

I refuse to watch Nolan films because of this insufferable tendency.

[@rokko_fable]

Nolan himself isn't mixing the audio. The sound people are hugely to blame. And then the movie theaters themselves often make zero effort to have decent sound. They think louder = better. It's obnoxious. At least at home you can use an equalizer and partially fix the issue.

[@bobit2000]

Its funny how this conversation begun with how radio is the productive persons media, which resonates a lot to me as thats exactly what I use it for. Noise while I do productive stuff. After about 20 minutes however I stopped being productive, as I found this conversation so captivating. Bravo, Alex. This is some hot content.

[@bluediscuskidgs]

Absolutely fantastic! Please get Rory on again. So different to the usual programme (which i also love, by the way) but I laughed a lot, learned things, paused for thought and told friends about it... I wish Rory was my school teacher from age 4 to 16. 10/10

[@SmileAndWave]

On the land tax on non-renewable energy, Norway effectively did that with oil. They taxed extraction and subsidised exploration. It ended up being pretty successful.

[@jhunt5578]

And Denmark, Hong Kong, Singapore and Taiwan all used land value taxes all of them successful.

[@gift_chinyama]

Really delightful conversation, The humor for Rory is just spot on 😅.

[@davidhartley94]

5:00 I love how Rory did more to convince Alex about the drawbacks of drugs with a passing joke than Hitchens did in 45 mins

[@Ungrievable]

Yeah all while clasping his own drug of choice tightly (a vaporizer), as if though his life depended on it… {Hitchens scoffs disapprovingly as he watches the entire drug-fueled spectacle unfold from home.}

[@SeekingVirtueA]

True enough. The hindrance of the ability to reason is one dividing line offered between appropriate and excessive drug use.

[@NB5468464]

What a pleasure that was to watch. It felt like Alex and I were just there for the ride. Thoroughly interesting conversation. Thank you for sharing

[@mildau]

Listening to this engaging conversation while sitting on my balcony and occasionally glancing at the video seems like the perfect fit for the matters discussed here. Thank you for making this available.

[@damarcuscolfer1485]

7:07 - Sinatra actually rejected the title of Crooner, as he didn't actually need a microphone and was very proud of his strong projection, as a guy who grew up singing on street corners over the top of the hustle and bustle.

[@davidwing288]

I hope you have rory back. This was immensely enjoyable

[@captainyossarian388]

28:16 You two had me laughing so much here. "I'll leave right now." ... "His name slips my mind.". Deep, engaging, but also very entertaining. Well done.

[@JacobBurchell]

Iv never watched this channel before, or heard of Rory Sutherland... but that was 2 hours well spent! I could listen to him ramble all day long.

[@fugue_state]

Brilliant editing on this. The whole conversation was an absolute joy.

[@brettbishop2461]

What an amazing character, ill have to check out what else i can find on Rory Sutherland. Also, best ending to date

[@davidwalton8659]

I can't believe I've been listening to an advertising executive bang on for over an hour so far, and have not only found him interesting but actually agreed with some of what he said. I also found Alex's new style of interviewing hiliarious. It was like he was just listening to his Mum chatting about the neighbours. Just "mm hm", "yeah", "right", with the odd quickly interupted interjection.

[@greedtheron8362]

The book he said would be in the description but wasn't in the description was "Obliquity: Why Our Goals Are Best Achieved Indirectly by John Kay" Had to rewind to find that.

[@azentilini]

What a magnificent display of intelligence this conversation was ? The charisma and truly refreshing idea on value vs wealth!! Thank you very much.

[@AndyMcEwan19]

Great video, Alex. Less of an interview and more of you being a bystander, but still brilliant. All wonderful topics.

[@erwinh7175]

Gotta love the title card in the thumbnail of this one 😂

[@osc7779]

Wait, the thumbnail says without reason lol

[@realfishtacoboy]

yes bc look at the title

[@KravMagoo]

That's the topic of conversation. Keep up.

[@brendanhagerty]

Because it’s “within reason” podcast but the point of this one is the opposite

[@magnusnils1]

Unlike the other ones here I don’t catch that, thanks for commenting!

[@MNBLUE1]

How are you a viewer of this channel? 😂

[@memesgaeilge]

PLEASE HAVE THIS MAN ON AGAIN!

[@tomsmith3216]

This was one of the rare Rory conversations that didn’t repeat the same points over and over. Really good in general. Hard to keep him on track but it was good.

[@deveyousness]

One of the best podcast episodes I've ever seen, first time seeing Rory Sutherland and he is an absolute gem to society, head on his shoulder AND common sense?! Rare to see!

[@MarkEhlen]

Had a great conversation going, and then a cinematic masterpiece ending lmao

[@Tomismyusername]

I've loved every minute of this so far. What a brilliant man.

[@IChooseAHandle]

probably one of your best interviews.

[@koketsoomarmasombuka3395]

Rory was mesmerizing, I am most surprised that the time moved so fast. He is a legend!!!

[@jasonkitchens4485]

This discussion with Rory Sutherland was informative and entertaining. No better combination. I look forward to more with the two of you.

[@gabrielmccray3457]

this was lovely to listen to mr. sutherland is a treat.

[@Genomsnittet]

Oh my. Rory Sutherland is a name to remember. Quite in love with his own voice, but interesting ideas, slightly to the right but not a madman. Can heavily criticize the left and the right in one go (without actually being insanely biased). You didn't get many words in though did you alex? Man that chap can talk!

[@SpaceRaccoon22]

This guy might be one of the best guests you've had. You covered such a broad range of topics and I'm sure he would have plenty more to talk about too, it would be great to have him back on sometime

[@DrDr4g0n]

Honestly one of the best guests. I hardly check out guests further but I have to read more about Rory. Amazing as always Alex!

[@langerofficial]

This was a absolute blast! Thanks for keeping the end in, hilarious ending.

[@DrDress]

This guy is fantastic! I have never heard of him before. Thank you! 😄

[@binkey3374]

As a lifelong lefty, I really wish there were still Conservatives like this in Canada.

[@Tech3bbh]

Who are the geezers walking around at the start 😭

[@spankflaps1365]

Echoes of Morecambe and Wise, with Shirley Bassey “smoke gets in your eyes”.

[@StephenIC]

Alex wondering the same thing at 2:30 wtf were they at?

[@captainyossarian388]

@@StephenIC I was like 'So that's what my face looks like right now. Well, except for the cornstache."

[@damarcuscolfer1485]

I guess the convo started before they were properly set up and Alex didn't want to miss anything.

[@conorkelly947]

thats what youre thinking about after this conversation??​@@StephenIC

[@MisterGames236]

I loved this conversation. It was refreshing, and gave a lot of food for thought in different directions from my own implicit learning.

[@drmichellecalvarese]

I had no idea who Rory Sutherland was yet watched this entire conversation. Delightful man. Oblivious extremely intelligent yet non pretentious and very likable. I could have listened to him for another hour easily.

[@JonTonyJim]

i would find an episode about some eastern philosophies (taoism, buddhism, confucianism etc) really interesting, as it isnt really something standard western education covers very often

[@fofopho]

What a fun convo

[@LisaSimpsonLiberal]

absolute cinema

[@biinniit]

OH. MY. GOD. This was like an amusement park ride. I'm going to rewatch this and take note of all (well, most) of the points Rory made and try to extrapolate, debunk, rethink, polish them to the best of my ability and keep that in a journal. Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant.

[@sam6000]

This is absolutely jam packed with immense insight. The land conversation is something I've felt quite strongly, but couldn't quite put into words in this way. Political considerations were very interesting too. Definitely note taking this podcast.

[@scottfoster9452]

😂 What a fascinating conversation! 😂

[@IceValley388]

No way that brothers vaping

[@damarcuscolfer1485]

Better for ya than smoking!

[@bedro_0]

@@damarcuscolfer1485 I highly doubt that

[@barosaurus6640]

⁠@@bedro_0about 95% less harmful

[@Simo_Oficiall]

​@@bedro_0Less harmful per puff but easier to abuse and more likely to be used by minors

[@SineN0mine3]

​@@Simo_Oficiallit's less harmful than smoking in the context of people who already smoke. It's obviously not healthy and nobody should start vaping for no reason. Since the medical benefits of nicotine are slim to none, there's no logical reason to start vaping. Vaping pg/vg flavours is not addictive, in places where vapes are legal and those products are accesible, they offer a genuine alternative to starting to smoke or vape nicotine. I know several people who, when we were younger and partied every weekend, would vape vg/pg liquids so that nobody would offer them cigarettes. Those people never started vaping nicotine and all stopped using their vapes within a month or two. Kids see people smoking or vaping and think that it must feel good, and this option makes it clear that the nicotine addiction is the main motivator for both of these habits. It's basically the ideal model for harm reduction and safe exposure to a bad habit. In my country vapes are illegal. This means that the vape shops have all gone out of business but disposable chinese imports which are loaded with unsafe levels of nicotine and regularly fail to meet hygiene and safety standards are available at every corner shop. Now to mix your own vape liquids, which is a necessary part of using them to quit smoking via substitution is impossible without a prescription. Even with a prescription, you can't purchase it in stores and have to order it from overseas. Meanwhile the Nicobate branded products are available to anybody (even under 18s) and are sold in supermarkets. Making vaping illegal also shifted the public perception, especially among the youth. Before the ban it was mostly seen as a pretty lame thing to do, and mostly only older people did it. Now it's illegal so it's automatically 50% cooler and kids are obsessed. Since people can't buy refillable vapes or liquids for them, there's disposable vapes (chunks of plastic with a lithium battery inside) instead of cigarette butts all over the streets. /rant

[@jhunt5578]

Brilliant guest, I would have happily have listened for even longer, and clearly Rory would have happily talked for even longer too. 😂

[@rickardarvidsson4659]

Disregarding all deepeties and/or comparison: Absolutely Brilliant. Fell asleep to it yesterday, needed to back up and finish it today. That barely happens. Bravo!

[@GRIFFIN1238]

I have an unreasonable love for this man, always a blast to listen to!

[@BanAaron]

The Google maps thing has really hit home for me 😂 it takes me 5 minutes to drive to my local train station, then 15 minutes on the train to get to Manchester city centre. So 20 minutes in total. But there is no way in Google maps to tell it that I want to drive to the train station, then get a train onwards into Manchester. If I put public transport it tells me the only option is a 1.5 hour journey by bus. If I listened to Maps I would be wasting 70 minutes each way because nobody at Google ever thought that people can take multi-transport journeys If you add two stops there is no option to specify what form of transport you would like for each leg of the journey, it is all or nothing

[@bobhill4364]

Put in the route, click the 3 dots by your location, go into options, use the connecting modes feature and enable drive. This should give you mixed mode options for travel.

[@bimbom9712]

this feels like one of those conversations with your talkative uncle at a family gathering. good stuff :)

[@chemquests]

I identify with being that uncle.

[@ToxicTubeAgario]

This guy was funny af

[@m-ox2tx]

​@@chemquestsHe's your uncle?

[@chemquests]

@@m-ox2tx no, I’m saying I’m normally the talkative uncle at family gatherings

[@jhunt5578]

There is no reason not to have a land value tax, uts worked wherever implemented in Hong Kong, Denmark, Singapore and Taiwan. The tax lowered inequality, increased economic activity, development, home affordability and land efficiency. The only strike against the tax is its politically untenable because the Nobles, wealthy class, elderly voting block and the MPs themselves own all the land.

[@Olyfrun]

One thing I didn't expect from this excellent interview was an elucidation of the Salisbury Trick! This has been an utter delight so far.

[@elliotm]

This was a wonderfully human podcast! Messy in just the right ways 😀 Rory a joy to listen to as always

[@biigsmokee]

i gotta say i had this on in the background whilst watching skate 3 and 6:20 made me turn it up lol amazing what discussions can happen when the interviewee can have a conversation

[@ludvigInLegendaryLands]

Favourite podcast in a while! So many intriguing idea and positiveness and impeccable delivery! Alex hardly got a word in!

[@langedarm1775]

tulip bulbs create a flower each year, a good bulb produces more valuable flowers, therefore a good bulb is worth more. so shortly after the invention of the stock market, people with disposable income started buying tulip bulbs as an investment. other people saw what they were doing and it created a bubble causing tulips to spiral out of control to the point where tulips were more expensive than a house.

[@goofyahhh254]

Ahh fascinating This only happened because they didn't have Internet

[@Szaam]

This might be my favourite podcast I've ever watched. I'm very much of the left but was hard agreeing with him on so many of his comments about property, and he's such an entertaining speaker.

[@ErikLeppen]

Not only was this an extremely interesting listen, but it was also intensely funny. And an absolute avalanche of super awesome ideas and interesting and fresh takes on things. Love all the analogies that makes it really clear that some things are indeed really weird about our economic system these days. I loved the phrase "you just want a thing to drive around in" for some reason. If only we had politicians like this guy. Also, half an hour in, I thought, oh wait so this is not the cold open :D