Writing systems of the Americas

[@galgar5660]

Everybody: I'll invent a complex system of signs to represent sounds or words Incas: l like knots

[@Argacyan]

Incas *handshakes with* Furries, liking knots

[@jakubpociecha8819]

@@Argacyan Furries like knots?

[@sagirozzo720]

I like your name

[@jakubpociecha8819]

@Hi last name Well,makes sense

[@SoldiesBC]

I'm calling the cops

[@HenrySims]

Latin after it disappeared in Greenland: "I'll be back muahahahaha"

[@abloodorange5233]

With a BANG.

[@sotiris-h6s]

ΤΙ? οποιος ειναι ελληνας καταλαβε🤣🤣🤣

[@user-sz9dj1pl9o]

@@sotiris-h6s I WILL BACK

[@metekaradavut5883]

It's too cold there..

[@jakubpociecha8819]

*I always come back*

[@CostasMelas]

Happy New Year!!

[@galgar5660]

Happy new year 🎇🎆

[@nicolasvelasquez3595]

Hello

[@armyanskiy]

Thank you!Happy new year!

[@andrefarfan4372]

Thank you. #Rosalina

[@Veriox22]

To you too :-)

[@brunog3768]

That sudden music change when the Europeans were about to arrive tho

[@bradleyagdern1477]

With all the PC around I wouldn't be too surprised if YT mandates that all Melas videos play Darth Vader's Theme in all the vids where the Europeans arrive. As a Latin American with black roots, I for one am glad I live in a civilization that doesn't still use quipu to communicate.

[@somemaycallthisjunkmeicall133]

@@bradleyagdern1477 ?

[@theportuguesehistorian6093]

Now we can call both North America and South America “Latin America”

[@sagirozzo720]

😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

[@crkcrk702]

O_O

[@alpine0054]

everyone there are latinos now

[@dimitrimolotovvyacheslav4604]

Eae,mano kkk

[@scintillam_dei]

Spain explored most of what would be the USA before English was ever uttered there.

[@wirelessbluestone5983]

Could have zoomed into mesoamerica because a lot is going on there and there’s a lot of empty space in the bottom left.

[@Vienna3080]

3:28 Aztecs: Ah cant wait to expand my emp-

[@aoveratedjoke3583]

Spain: B u e n a s d i a s

[@thecleitom9497]

@@aoveratedjoke3583 b u e n o s*

[@aoveratedjoke3583]

@@thecleitom9497 DamnIWasSoCloseToBeingCorrect

[@thecleitom9497]

@@aoveratedjoke3583 s o r r i

[@aoveratedjoke3583]

@@thecleitom9497 nah its all good I'd rather know I messed up

[@crkcrk702]

Latin teacher : why did you write in Portuguese ? I told you to write in Latin ! Me : but I *DID* write in Latin !

[@servantofaeie1569]

Thats why its best to call it the Roman script.

[@Mill_Jr]

I used modern vulgar latin

[@omargerardolopez3294]

@@Mill_Jr I love this one

[@weirdlanguageguy]

@@Mill_Jr Modern Standardized Vernacular Castillian Latin.

[@armas754]

hahaha

[@atollking201]

I love these maps, I knew that this one would be as complete as the rest, in this case including even the Quipu. Excellent videos, keep it up!

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you

[@torrawel]

My compliments for adding khipu (quipu), Cherokee- and the Canadian syllabary. Also for the realization that Maya writing survived well into the 17th century. It's actually making a comeback right now. The Aztec script was also used well into the 17th century, and one could argue that it is still used, for example in the Mexican and the Guatemalan flags. The same is true for khipu, which, in a simplified version, was used until the 19th and 20th century. I'd further like t to add the awesome looking Osage script, the record systems of the Algonkian & Iroquoian nations (wampum for example) and, my own research topic, the script of Teotihuacan. Great video !

[@Flozone1]

Quipus were found in Caral (Norte-Chico civilisation), which makes them actually more ancient than Olmec and on par with some of the earliest systems of the old world.

[@ger14001]

and one more suggestion: map of systems of measurement

[@CostasMelas]

Great idea. Thank you. It is a field of interest to me

[@joacoolcipher]

Very good suggestion

[@wabdab3459]

@@CostasMelas nice, good luck!

[@crkcrk702]

@@CostasMelas very interesting but there would be many

[@crkcrk702]

Latin : hello America may I set on Greenland American languages : well ok American languages : Latin where are you you disappeared ?? 😰 Latin : PRANK

[@Normal_user_coniven]

Alphabets and Launguages aren't the same thing.

[@armas754]

😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@the_one_who_has_a_very_str5580]

Happy New Year, Americas and the World Wide !

[@RV-cv2yt]

no

[@terraformmars7668]

Now we need 'writing systems of oceania' right?

[@maxi6457]

That actually would be interesting, considering rongorongo

[@Flozone1]

@@maxi6457 There is another native system which appeared on the Carolina islands and one on Vanuatu too. That is like Rongorongo they appeared after european contact.

[@pas1994ok]

How different would have been the history of our continent if Cyrillic alphabet expanded more far away than Alaska?

[@randomguy-tg7ok]

Probably not very, because Russia couldn't really hold on to parts of the Americas anyway.

[@donovantownshend8783]

@@randomguy-tg7ok well it is possible that the natives would choose to use it themselves like how they adopted orthodox christianity

[@armyanskiy]

Wonderful work!👍

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you :)

[@matty3509]

Nice to see all america red✊🏻🇨🇺

[@daisybrain9423]

Nice decision to include Quipu! I always enjoy your videos!

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you

[@Scott89878]

It's insane how quickly Europe conquered the Americas. And Spain, Portugal, France, and England, are all successor states to the Romans, so it was like, Rome's legacy conquered the Americans and in another video, they also conquered subsaharan Africa.

[@foxymetroid]

The Spanish had guns, horses, sick people, and the Aztec Empire's love of human sacrifice to help them. The French and English merely invaded after a huge chunk of the population got sick and died.

[@nelsonperez8855]

@@foxymetroid The English and French had guns, horses and sick people too. Not only the Spanish bro.

[@foxymetroid]

@@nelsonperez8855 The Spanish arrived first. By the time the French and English arrived, disease had already devastated the local populations.

[@clumbus894]

@@foxymetroid the Spanish didn't do anything to what became the US and Canada, they only conquered the Mesoamericans and South Americans. All the European countries has guns and advanced technology that the native Indians were never going to beat. The biggest difference between the Spanish and English & French colonies though is that natives were much more numerous in Central America than they were in the Plains and forests of the US and Canada, so in English and French colonies the natives were typically pushed out or exterminated while in Spanish America they mixed with the incoming Spanish colonists making the modern Mestizo population of many Latin countries (other countries, particularly in the Southern Cone, also had very small indigenous populations and so they were also exterminated instead and the Europeans came in, which is why Argentina is almost completely white). As well, to the original commenter, I also wouldn't consider England a successor to Rome, the English were never Roman themselves.

[@jamustabella9775]

@@nelsonperez8855 we turks destroyed the states you call yourself conpueror by killing people with sticks in europeans shame on you 🤣🤣🤣

[@matthewculley5959]

Very cool! No Miꞌkmaw hieroglyphic writing though? Should be up in Canada somewhere.

[@donovantownshend8783]

it wasn't well standerdized and information is hard to come by

[@max.lw.]

It would be cool to see a languages of australia video (remember to include the pre-colonial period or it will be a very quick video!)

[@seethrough_treeshrew]

Wouldn't that be like a bazillion unrelated languages?

[@slyninja4444]

@@seethrough_treeshrew Most of the languages are of the Pama-Nyungan language family. The only acception is Northwestern Australia with several different families.

[@marcomaccini7612]

Another great video.

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you

[@shaneschambach932]

Great! Now, why not a video of all the indigenous language families spoken in the Americas (Eskimo-Aleut, Uto-Aztecan, Algonquin, Nez-Perce, Navajo, Seminole, Maya, Quechuan, Ge-Pano Carib, te al) as well?

[@CheesoTheCheese]

i like how 2021 is included :)

[@joacoolcipher]

Can u make history of numerals?

[@CheepGuava]

May be too small to show up on your map but there is another Cherokee tribal government in western North Carolina that also uses the syllabary, in addition to the main Cherokee Nation in Oklahoma.

[@Smitology]

Northwest Caroline

[@ermin2248]

What happened in Greenland?

[@CostasMelas]

The norse settlements declined and collapsed eventually after c.1450, but Greenland was recolonized by Denmark-Norway in 1721.

[@crkcrk702]

People in the settlements were frozen

[@getass3290]

They collapsed for reasons I think are debated. They collapsed possibly due to native invasions ironically enough.

[@viktornoikristinsson]

Latin has entered the chat 💀

[@mankuqhapaqii4798]

Quipus have actually been found at Caral Norte Chico which was a civilization almost contemporary to Mesopotamia.

[@CostasMelas]

The beginning of this system is actually unknown. This form is more difficult to save in time than the stone carvings

[@mankuqhapaqii4798]

@@CostasMelas The date you show could apply for the development of complex quipus (The ones used by the Inca, with the zero, fractions, colors, capable of doing more than just counting armies, population, bloodlines, livestock, land measuraments, calendars, etc and actually recording poetry, dialogue and history as the Spanish claimed).

[@angelsantana7739]

*muy interesante, gracias makinola* Saludos desde nezahualcóyotl

[@nelsonperez8855]

Saludos para ti también!

[@SMiki55]

Mormons also used the Deseret alphabet for a while.

[@JG_Online1]

Great Video, the precolumbian civilizations always fascinated me and its very sad the ability to read Quipu has faded entirely

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you very much

[@donovantownshend8783]

it hasn't

[@sarahpollard7879]

I’m fairly sure the CAS is used in parts of Greenland, in regions where they speak Inuktitut.

[@vincentbj84]

the 2021,made me weird, great vids !

[@pinklasagna8328]

Will you do a video about Dravidian languages

[@CostasMelas]

I will try in the future. It is difficult mainly the earliest stages

[@karolkowalski3424]

*The Best KZbinr*

[@evanbrunner3589]

Perfect sound effect at 3:27

[@inquire86]

it is strange how you add other recording systems like quippu for the americas but none for the video on africas writing systems. africa had many recording systems like sona

[@DarkenMapper03]

Nice! Will you be back to making vids about language after this? It would be really interesting to see one about the spread of languages in the Americas

[@akihros6535]

No one: Native syllabaries in the 19th century: *Hi bitches*

[@king_halcyon]

As always a great video! Hope 2021 will be lucky for us! Anyway what are you planning for next video?

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you very much. I haven't decided yet for the next

[@jonathanhatch9567]

Amazing work on this one. KEEP THEM COMING ❤

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you

[@ojasaklecha]

Now all the other scripts in canada are being converted into Latin.

[@9_9876]

History of the armenian language please!

[@duck1ente]

gODDAMN IT SPAIN

[@RV-cv2yt]

HELL YEAH, SPAIN!!

[@sagirozzo720]

Not just them tho

[@rayyanlahloub2767]

Can u make a vedio about the tripes of native american

[@bogdangati2972]

Imagine showing this clip to someone that doesnt know about the european colonisation

[@matthewmann8969]

Cool

[@mavz87]

Thanks thanks a loooot!!!! 👍👍👍👍

[@renatocampos3114]

very good map, what happened to Northeast Canada in the 2000s to become more blue than red? , Canadian aboriginal syllabary writing became the official script in the region?

[@CostasMelas]

The establishment of Nunavut, an Inuit majority area

[@andrefarfan4372]

Happy New Year. #Rosalina

[@roshansri1636]

Dravidian language maps?

[@joaomalveira1839]

The first languange of the movie actor East Stuady ,(i think i writed corretc) who was Magna in The Last of Mohawks were Cherokee he is a real cherokee and learned to speak cherokee before speak english .

[@servantofaeie1569]

You forgot Osage. It came about in 2006 in Osage County, Oklahoma

[@Normal_user_coniven]

What are those modern syllabary in North America?

[@onlyme9348]

cool, the whole occident speaks Latin, no more barriers because of languages, very well 👍

[@largedarkrooster6371]

They write in the Latin script, not speak the Latin language. This video is about writing systems. It is called the Latin script because it was first used by the Romans who spoke Latin. It developed from the Etruscan script, which came from the Greek script, which came from the Phoenician script, which came from the Proto-Sinaitic script, which came from the Egyptian script

[@adamsfar9115]

Came here before this go viral

[@serge2ndsiberian652]

Убедительная победа латиницы на обоих континентах. Только в последней половине века некоторым аборигенам подарена личная письменность.

[@lucasjames7524]

Who says Rome ever fell?

[@sagirozzo720]

Yeah you got a point!

[@rubbedibubb5017]

You should have included mi’kmaq hieroglyphs, but otherwise, great video!

[@CostasMelas]

Thank you

[@scintillam_dei]

Check out my realistic map of the world which has North and South America, for Age of Empires 2. I also did one of the Pacific Ocean which includes Mesoamérica, and in the west even Persia is included.

[@nicocola284]

Do you use latin alphabet ? Cherokee : yes and no

[@tychocollapse]

What mapping software does this?

[@pwnmeisterage]

Not quite right. Written Chinese in the Pacific Northwest. Not the "official" languages of Canada or USA, but the "Chinatown" enclaves in the major coastal cities have always had large populations. Especially after Hong Kong 1996 exodus.

[@foxymetroid]

The areas would be too small to see anyway.

[@joacoolcipher]

I thought the whole Americas was just Latin

[@jasonbrennan9918]

Apparently a lot of First Nations languages are tiresome to write with alphabets so abudigas were adopted instead...

[@suhnih4076]

Most civilizations: we will carve our languages onto stone Incans: 🪢

[@anakinskywalker2064]

que interesante

[@christopherhardy8808]

Well, that was one sided

[@raggie1778]

Writing Systems Oceania Pls

[@sandi11112]

Sorry, but didn't Maya civilization collapse around 10th century? In above video maya script is still there in early 16th century when Europeans came. How so?

[@gtc239]

Just because the civilization itself collapse doesn't mean people that have knowledge of the script disappear instantly, some people had some knowledge of the script till 16th century when it was lost.

[@erikprank4611]

The history of the Mayans is divided into different stages, such as the pre-classical period (c. 2000 BC - 250 AD), the classical period (c. 250-900 AD) and the post-classical period (c. 950-1539 AD). Both the pre-classical and classical periods ended in collapse, during which many cities were abandoned, but not all.

[@crkcrk702]

Happy new year America. Latin won’t go

[@SylvainsRamblings]

Them Incan knot system best

[@karolpalion2883]

But where's rongorongo? It would have fit in the map!

[@crkcrk702]

What is wrongrongo ?

[@karolpalion2883]

@@crkcrk702 It's the writing system of the Easter Island. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rongorongo

[@crkcrk702]

@@karolpalion2883 it looks like hyeroglyphs

[@abielsjsjs3555]

Easter island are part of Oceania.I know it's a pseudo continent

[@abielsjsjs3555]

even though Hawaii appeared in the video is technically part of the oceania

[@joseluisespinozavillalobos5378]

Caral, Peru with Quipu, then Paracas, then Huari, then Incas

[@anonymuz796]

Cherokee invented their writing system only in 1830s?

[@lekevire]

Yup. The concept of writing was so alien to them that when Sequoyah presented the script to the chief elders, they imprisoned him for witchcraft as they didn't believe that one could "make objects speak".

[@mankuqhapaqii4798]

Latin did not spread that fast. It took around a century for Europe to become influential enough that most natives would start learning European languages to trade and connect with them. Even then, most natives still kept their original language as the main one.

[@stefanozucchelli5410]

This video is about written languages not spoken ones. Maybe they spoke their own languages but they didn't write so Latin spread really fast.

[@sardiniapiedmont]

Even in Mexico today, many people still speak Nahuatl and other native languages

[@mankuqhapaqii4798]

@@stefanozucchelli5410 It didn't. 90% of the people *speaking* Latin in America before the 17th century were Europeans who settled and conquered very few specific spots of both Meso and South America, not the huge territory the video claims they had.

[@mankuqhapaqii4798]

@@sardiniapiedmont Exactly. Around half of the native population living in Meso and South America only started learning European languages by the 19th century due to the predominant population being Mestizos, Mulatos and Criollos who lived in already independent countries. These countries were originally a result of deals and alliances between Europeans and Natives in the 16th and 17th centuries, but epidemics devastated the indigenous populations and Europe kept arriving in large scale migrations.

[@foxymetroid]

@@mankuqhapaqii4798 As the primary (in many cases, only) written language, it spread fast mostly because many of the native peoples either had no need for a written language or any examples failed to survive over hundreds or thousands of years. It's possible older populations had a written language, but wrote primarily on things that eventually rotted or burned away or were recycled to save on time and/or resources.

[@timecapsule.]

1492: Happens Latin: I AM SPEED!

[@fohnjucker6900]

Latin in its redness spread like blood spilling from a wound 😆😆

[@sagirozzo720]

The Americas: *Rich empires and a lot of gold Europe: ...... yyeeeaah were just gonna go ahead and take that.

[@rtklmn9508]

plague inc vibes

[@daniels7568]

So hieroglyphs predate alphabets sorta like how pantheons predate monotheism... Except hieroglyphs are guaranteed to die out.

[@servantofaeie1569]

Monotheism is older.

[@foxymetroid]

@@servantofaeie1569 Polytheism predates monotheism.

[@servantofaeie1569]

@@foxymetroid that is false on all levels.

[@محمديونس-7]

Q. : HOW YOU CAN DESTROY CIVILIZATIONS ? europe : yes

[@RV-cv2yt]

EPIC

[@skaor8036]

It is ironic to hear this from the Arabs, who mutilated and practically destroyed two of the most ancient civilizations, - the Persian and Egyptian.

[@ogolow570]

@@skaor8036 Iranians are still around and speak Farsi Egytpians tho- 😬

[@Amlerlv]

Tell this to the Arabs

[@محمديونس-7]

@@skaor8036 It's the Romans not the arabs who did that

[@realbaron5714]

When Romans indirectly discovers America 😁

[@ems7623]

Well, that was depressing.

[@johnb5254]

Sad music.

[@christopherellis2663]

Carrier Syllabary BC

[@vaiirecti7873]

first

[@armyanskiy]

second

[@sekiland8006]

By far the least diverse continent, in terms of scripts

[@JcDizon]

Australia and Antarctica are even less diverse

[@crkcrk702]

@@JcDizon Antartica has secret pinguin scripts but shhh

[@Daniel-jm7ts]

@@JcDizon nah antarctica as latin, Cyrillic and Chinese as well as Hindu script

[@servantofaeie1569]

I would say this 1. Antarctica 2. Americas 3. Africa 4. Oceania 5. Europe 6. Asia

[@JcDizon]

@@servantofaeie1569 Oceania is more diverse than Africa and the Americas? Explain

[@Charlanerc]

Latin&Indo americans ❤

[@sarahpollard7879]

Hot take: colonialism sucks.

[@Charlanerc]

English 60% latin soo is latin 50% spanish 89% latin french 75% latin portuguese 85% latin

[@seethrough_treeshrew]

You forgot about Inuktitut syllabics

[@CostasMelas]

It is included into the grouped category Canadian aboriginal syllabics

[@seethrough_treeshrew]

@@CostasMelas Oh, I see. I thought it was used in Greenland as well, but I might be wrong.

[@JcDizon]

@@seethrough_treeshrew I think the Canadian aboriginal syllabics was only introduced in Canada and Greenland was under Denmark and the Inuit there write in the Latin script instead. In the Inuit territory of Nunavut, the syllabics is widely promoted.