Couch Talk: Ab-Soul + Princess Nokia on Femininity in Hip Hop

Ab-Soul and Princess Nokia are two of the brightest talents in hip hop today, so we got them together to talk on our couch.
They covered a lot of ground, including but not limited to: hip hop’s male allies, whether musicians should get political, and why Princess Nokia’s never giving up the word bitch.
Check out their latest releases:
Princess Nokia's latest album '1992':
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Ab-Soul's latest album 'Do What Thou Wilt':
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Edited by: Victoria Brandt
Produced by: Elena De Santiago
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[@PhaedraKaRiyma]

"It takes a lot of balls not to be pretty and to forcefully be ugly first then allow my beauty to shine through my ugliness". Loved that statement.

[@ipelengmathabe3702]

Pem Griffey Soul had to sit up right to process that. Not an average woman.

[@venus6897]

aneerhtak well said mama!

[@gemmamarie1237]

Princess Nokia spoke so much truth

[@mkmanu4253]

Gemma Marie SO much truth.

[@pr3ttypr1nce67]

Gemma Marie she is the truth

[@DavidMartinez-ou4lb]

look up yoruba religion

[@maddyhoyle3155]

im just in love with the way she speaks, almost sounds like a higher human being,idk makes my head spin...

[@DavidMartinez-ou4lb]

Maddy Hoyle im pretty sure it was to do with her roots, she comes from a family where they practice Yoruba religion look it up. ashe

[@missgirl6439]

Maddy Hoyle lol wtf

[@missgirl6439]

Maddy Hoyle I bet you're a white girl who's never heard someone from Harlem speak. like what?? lol Y'all are weird and not in a good way

[@John-mu5ow]

fake deep lol Maddy Hoyle

[@killuminati8174]

I love her too..lol

[@Sixundergr0und]

ab soul looks pleased to have crossed paths with miss destiny💖

[@invadingminds]

hyper ritual Yes! I love their energy together, wish I was there

[@keeseagainsttheworld2106]

lol..he looks pleased to see that camel toe

[@alleztoute2527]

KeeSe Escobar well maybe you are. assuming that the only thing every man think about women is their body is totally anti-feminist. peer pressuring other man so they think they have to think this way about women if they wanna be man enough. that's silly. patriarchy hits badly men too. one love.

[@afroprince5262]

@@alleztoute2527well said

[@aliceplamedie5147]

'i don't need a man i got tons of em'. i felt that on a spiritual level

[@BobYourHeadMusic]

Alice Plamedie why would u have tons of something u dont need?

[@John-mu5ow]

Alice Plamedie fake deep

[@afroprince5262]

@@BobYourHeadMusic i’m assuming that she’s saying not lacking support from men

[@kit6na-25]

"It's called spelling for a reason" that stimulated my brain

[@MultiRwarren]

I think she is referring to the influential affect of words and language- words are like a spell

[@callummurphy7170]

Julie Ierome totally!

[@chriscc14]

That shit fucked me

[@MixtapeMan07]

Julie Ierome even Soul was like "ouuuu" when he heard that one

[@t00bgazer]

Lol if this was deep to you, it's time to hop out of the kiddie pool and study real philosophy. You won't find it with either of these two simpletons.

[@bunni-xs6dv]

Concious black and brown men and women are soo magical and beautiful

[@invadingminds]

Diabla Blanca Yes! I just love my people..Be still my heart..lol 😊

[@KaylaWaylah26]

Diabla Blanca love this comment

[@naimahcoleman5194]

Diabla Blanca Indeed

[@mozangeles9088]

Diabla Blanca indefinitely so true.

[@Ojdahprnce]

Diabla Blanca Just curious why do people separate black and brown when all appear brown?

[@808sndHeartAke]

Her mind is SOOO BEAUTIFUL... She makes me feel unapologetic for being that Loner, observant, quiet weird kid always drifting off into and empty field of grass and weeping willows and always writing worth every moment... Simply because she appreciates every aspect of what makes up life! 😏☯️☮️

[@thatgirlbrinna7927]

Markel Dallas same ! I watch her interviews all the time!

[@plaidinternational2100]

this sounds like me too actually lol

[@afroprince5262]

I won’t say im quiet im an ambivert. But I live in my head and Love to write

[@AshleyGoode]

Her soul is SO BEAUTIFUL!

[@John-mu5ow]

Ashley Monique Styles fake deep lol

[@Angela-jq8gg]

John yo shut up I see you commenting this everywhere

[@taziafarrao]

We need to be able to listen just like Ab-soul

[@satchitananda1820]

"We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak." -Epictetus

[@kobron1559]

Alfonso G good observation lol introverts can definitely feel other introverts energy

[@TheIZM]

OMG I fuckin love Nokia. Ab-Soul (daps up Nokia): Oh, masculine. Princess Nokia: MUCHO! That girl is a tombooooooy!

[@darianborneo2236]

I love how dominant she is she intrigues me

[@FlowaMan]

Gemini - Masculine Love sign

[@darianborneo2236]

I see the duality from the sweetness but firm

[@FlowaMan]

@@darianborneo2236 yeh we are lovers but I've notice my female geminis tend to have tomboy aura about them they've definetly turned it into a kind of sex appeal

[@FlowaMan]

@@darianborneo2236 yeh we are lovers but I've notice my female geminis tend to have tomboy aura about them they've definetly turned it into a kind of sex appeal

[@rosegoldsoldier]

ab-soul said like 2 words lol, i like girls like nokia. talk to me all day even if im not saying as much, i like hearing her mind

[@zelenaw5093]

And we appreciate men like you, too! :)

[@songbirdwest5710]

She's not a "girl" shes a "Woman"! you wouldn't say a "man" is a "boy"

[@jadexsolaris6916]

I can second that, she’s a blessing

[@Manny10x]

wow

[@alleztoute2527]

i thought the same thing as you Mach6_ while watching the video. then i thought, there's often someone talking more in a conversation. nobody gives a shit when it's the man who's talking more. it's only normal. maybe it's okay for a woman to talk more. especially when you're talking feminism, chances are the woman has more things to say. makes sense to me.

[@gracedelice3213]

I could listen to them talk for hours

[@handfull653]

i respect her so much, I just love how educated she sounds and how she sets an image that being intelligent is beauty and talent too.

[@jackrichardson5410]

princess nokia sounds like huey & rileys big sister

[@KxngKUDA]

Jack Richardson the enlightenment of huey and the hood motif of Riley

[@strawberrysunset7620]

These vibes are beautiful between them.

[@KollateralMTR]

they'd make a dope couple*.*

[@maritareads5229]

He has a girlfriend

[@cheesecake9902]

Martha Kajwang' shes dead.

[@tgg9522]

Cheese Cake nah he has a new gf now

[@angel1xoxo]

TG G lmao wtf

[@tgg9522]

froggirl23 I’m deadass lmao her name is Yaris Sanchez

[@DymeJackson]

she's so pretty like omg

[@kieakewii]

reminds me of Jada

[@swampmouse]

Princess Nokia's "ugly", really is beautiful, I can agree with her on that. But she still looks like a princess even when she she is wearing basketball shorts with her little belly out. Little Belly beauty.

[@abstractswirls]

so much awareness and enlightenment in one room. beautiful

[@John-mu5ow]

abstractswirls fake deep lol

[@Enders.paradise888]

@@John-mu5ow bro what are u talking a bout some of the things ab soul speaks about in his raps your small human conscious could nt evn process, he talks about the kabbalah, book of thoth the pineal gland, hermetic philosophy, universal frequencies, thelema. ancient kemet, mushrooms, metaphysics. so pls tell how me how he is "fake deep" he has never claimed to be deep but i will say for him on his behalf that he could go blind and still have more vison than u brainwashed sheep humans, u could listen to one of his songs and i guarantee everything he says will go wayyyyy over your head since your clearly a sheep

[@Enders.paradise888]

@@John-mu5ow come back when u can decipher the tree of life, oh wait u can't f outta her bro

[@John-mu5ow]

@@Enders.paradise888 I listen to his music as well and all it is, is just wordplay on more fake deep shit so shutup

[@Enders.paradise888]

@@John-mu5ow your actually a fucken moron i told you his music would go over your head i can tell you havent learnt any theologies hes not evn being fake deep everything he says he gets from theologies, hermectics the book thoth and spiritualism but i can tell you dont know anything about that

[@pinkstrwberry8]

this bitch is so real. my soul happy

[@John-mu5ow]

Crystaal Calixxx fake deep lol

[@Xxs0cc3rch1ckxX]

two artists ive been really into lately on a couch talking about real ass shit. this video came at the right time in my life. thank galore lol

[@IAMDJBLUE]

Ab soul made it cool for a chill dude like me to openly worship the women in their life.. same with Mac Miller the divine feminine ... I LOVE this time in HIP HOP cause it's perfect timing with what's goin on around us. SO DOPE

[@tkjspeaks1491]

Thank you Galore for allowing them this space to create such beautiful chemistry. They said i lot of real shit that need to be said. Jah bless

[@sunsunny5752]

This is the most intelectual and stimulating conversation between two artist that i have ever heard

[@n.eliana3933]

People should give more attention to interviews like this, instead of paying attention to the fake celebrities who don't teach us nothing. As a teen I'm glad I watched this, it's amazing it made me think a lot and reflect. 👏👏👏

[@BellaSmiles56]

i feel like i entered a new world just hearing these two converse on a damn couch; black artistry is something that is so unique it really surpasses the meaning of the word

[@girlieluuv94]

I love her voice omg

[@inlovewitnaruto0915]

i could never be this woman. she should be praised for this this was awesome....

[@fowlkes727]

their energies were just vibrating and feeding off one another 🤗✌

[@ivy.interlude]

that beat playing in the background.. sounds like blue in green from miles davis, well more like when dilla sampled it on his track called life, but just without the snares...

[@tevinhenderson2412]

Ivette Cruz thank you truth

[@PurpleMonster616]

i love this.

[@gougligouify]

this conversation between these two makes sooo much sense

[@shadarby6153]

I wish we had a GO TO "world star hip hop " type platform for these types of conversation. Our youth community would be so much better.

[@tahjeisaacs5306]

I love her so much. She's so intimidating, so strong, so smart. I want to see more of her. I want to see her grow. There's so much to her. ✨

[@janaelovely4010]

her voice is so calming ❤❤😍

[@meghanhughes]

two beings full of wisdom, talent, & pure MAGIC! so stoked to see this

[@Steph-xg1xh]

Princess Nokia speaks so effervescently it's truly magnifying.

[@powrpuffboy]

Magnifying?

[@DianaB-vm1hj]

yo thank you so much galore! these conversations are exactly what the culture needs

[@Smileydezie]

I still come back to this after 5 years. A timeless episode. Very special conversations. Pure Magick ✨

[@imbelly2350]

Favorite interview

[@songbirdwest5710]

I see the mutual respect between them. To respectfully talk to each other as human beings and tell stories together is a blessing, it is beautiful. I think he has a better understanding of uniqueness in a woman. Woman are not always precise, elegant, and girly. Regardless, I love Princess Nokia to death and will always support her as a eloquent, educated, beautiful being that is one with herself. I can tell she is making a difference in peoples mindsets. Destiny your words flow like poetry. I will always respect and support you.

[@roguemajor8713]

Princess Nokia is so beautiful and she articulates herself so well, and tbh I can see her and Soul as best friends. Because their conversations flow like water ✨

[@Shmyrk]

I feel the Love

[@flygerian121]

This environment, this atmosphere, this collective of open minds are very familiar because that is what I try surround my soul wid. catch this subscription

[@idkijs435]

everything about Princess Nokia is immaculate.

[@Marcello21223]

princess is so interesting

[@luce9470]

One of the most enjoyable, insightful and healthy discussions I've seen regarding racism, feminism, art/music etc. I wish more of this content existed on the Internet. PrincessNokia, you are magical and your wisdom is precious! Please keep making music and spreading knowledge❣💫! Ab-Soul, definitely looking you up, you're a cool bloke! I like you! 😍🍫

[@kellyjean7168]

This is my first time hearing about and listening to Princess Nokia and I am a fan now. I love her.

[@bluemoonnoir6700]

soo uhmm...yea can yall connect more. the energy of understanding is intellectually erotic.

[@ljay3379]

Intellectual eroticism. Where has this term been all my life?

[@lozenge1665]

Sapiosexual

[@jvczte5045]

Blue Moon Noir (;

[@FookinChipBrah]

This just a real ass conversation. A real conversation. I'm intrigued. I'm not surprised though. This why I fuck with these artists. They real. They authentic. I love it. I live for it. Imma bump it.

[@realchelseajay]

girl you made him lift up! lol

[@MsBdotSmoove]

Couture Creator Right!!!! I was like he sat right u on her!!

[@songbirdwest5710]

Fuck yeah

[@iannacrystal5320]

they need to collab

[@giorgiakahlo3878]

this video distracted me from all the anxiety and stress i have. thank you

[@carolinevargas6742]

Beautiful energies together, many blessings ab-soul and Princess Nokia. I love the openness and vulnerability

[@LetsGoUp008]

this is dope af

[@Ncatanch]

She didn't even peep, he said hip hop is feminine because it started in a circle

[@dahnabennett7587]

Her voice does something to me 😍

[@lumenalight393]

this is everything. love is the law... supreme

[@angie12326able]

She's so intelligent and it's so beautiful

[@MultiGreen89]

That is literally my 2 favourite artists and it makes me very happy to see them having a conversation.

[@TH4TGRL]

Wow. I was so insanely excited when I saw their names together. Love this.

[@drakiebacon123]

This was beautiful.

[@Leggett1994]

This was one of the most relaxing interviews I have ever seen and experienced.

[@leelashamash8598]

"it's called spelling for a reason"

[@Snip3rfall]

Ab just listening cuz he knows all this shit

[@zgurl94]

I love watching Princess Nokia talk about stuff! She's just so true to herself and unapologetic

[@ianuzochi555]

She reminds me of Angela Davis.

[@everybodyloveeverybody5881]

yeah she speaks just like her

[@torrenmanning1486]

their souls are so beautiful

[@devine__words]

I love her weirdness & her originality✨ It's refreshing and makes you really think🌹

[@kyliekayemba2876]

I could listen to her speak all day, her voice is so soothing omg

[@Gray-tb3yf]

This is the most organic video I've seen in a long time.

[@Larzaparz]

I just love her voice and her energy

[@lidiab.4076]

"People didn't fuck with me and I love that " -princess Nokia

[@Lucki_Angel_on_Earth]

she is so captivating. im in deep luv with her

[@likejimi5845]

how am I just finding this girl? she might be the best interviewer I have heard

[@likejimi5845]

I know its not a conventional interview but I'm talking about her intelligence, understanding of the message etc

[@estherdreamer5259]

so much respect 💜💜

[@wav.yliving]

Dooope to see these 2 together

[@leuvenfra]

wav.yliving 波打つ I've never seen a user name more æsthetically pleasing than yours

[@donteharris22]

You can tell Soul was really into the intellectual conversation they had.

[@astashasta1]

The irony in Nokia saying shes a wordsmith and then trying to rhyme that word with rumplestilskin is just too perfect 2:40

[@adriana-ry5vd]

A lot of ideas being bounced around in this. Truly intelligent minds in this. U could tell they were feeling what the other was saying. Can't wait to meet someone I can converse with in this same level of understanding.

[@elsapea997]

She's always incredible to listen to.

[@F90JET]

The vocabulary this woman possesses is astounding

[@DanielGarcia-vu2md]

i love the vibe going on in this video

[@miquelabailey421]

I love this.. honestly

[@madman9326]

This makes my soul happy

[@Poeticdyme]

when a male rapper shows naked men to "make a point," we'll be equal. so tired of the exploitation of women's bodies with the front of feminism or not.

[@jahinj]

Poeticdyme thats gay as fuck

[@nikirahimi2797]

exactly the point. why is it gay when men do it but not considered gay if females do it?

[@JustChillMyGuyYabuggin]

I think he came at it from the angle of a heterosexual man giving his perspective on feminity as only an heterosexual man can. What's alarming is, if you did this(I can't accuse you of such based of one comment you made, you boxing him in with every phony that uses women's sexuality to push a negative stance.

[@LIBryda]

you'll be equal when you stop bitching about nonsense. It's women who are walking around naked in the street for "women rights." Men aren't ripping their clothes off and throwing them in the streets.

[@inlovewitnaruto0915]

Poeticdyme womens bodies are beautiful. only society shames it

[@nrms8316]

I discovered Princess Nokia through an interview I stumbled upon about a month ago and she blew me away. I love hearing her speak. She's so smart and profound and funny too. Love this interview with both of them.

[@NewNarrativeNetwork]

I love the way she speaks

[@jibrilbuilder2668]

My introduction to Nokia when thus dropped been a supporter ever since

[@AVYONE]

Just became a bigger fan in Soul and now I am one of Princess. Thank you. They should date btw

[@talooshh]

i love how princess nokia speaks with such calmness and sincerity... her voice is music to my ears

[@TheGodNC]

Damn that spelling called SPELLing really got to me hah

[@Littlegemtx]

ugh i love Nokia’s voice, i could listen to her talk for hours

[@jeneralj.u.-ice6607]

Deep convo between Soulo and Princess Nokia. Was just talking to mom dukes the other day about music and the current state of hip-hop music in general. She's 61 and she had her era of music in the 60's 70's and 80's that I also grew up listening to. I'm a product of the 80's, 90's, and what I find as dope music that's not on the radio in the 2000's...just really glad to be a product of the Golden Era from the 80's to 90's though. Speaking of which a lot of female MC's from that era that included Sista Souljah, MC Trouble (R.I.P), Nikki D, Monie Love, Queen Latifah, Yo-Yo, Da Brat, Salt-N-Pepa, Apani B. Fly, MC Lyte, and Lauryn Hill just to name a few embraced feminism with their music that battled topics like being a female rapper in a male dominant industry, domestic violence, drug addictions, and even being called bitches and hoes. In a odd twist though you don't see too many female MC's nowadays who oppose with being called a bitch or a hoe by their male counterparts. Females tried to diminish that stigma in the 80's and 90's from men, nowadays I hear women calling each other bitches and hoes more than dudes call them that now. It would be nice to see a female rapper(s) who is dope on the mic like their former predecessors who paved the way for them not to be taken as a joke or being called out of their name. In a time when sex sells, it still would be refreshing to see a female rapper stand out who is beyond that bullshit and stands her ground in substance and gets the respect she deserves as a dope MC or DJ.

[@healthovermuscle4485]

13:11 3iiiuth!! eye am so grateful that a womyn like Nokia coming up, she vibrates intellectually but above all she is powered by her energetic field. much love to the brother Ab too

[@kennylol101]

amazing

[@kaila1995]

I have soooooo much more respect for her , ohmygod .

[@rachaelryan2847]

Thank you for serenating me and standing by